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New Study out of Vietnam, Vaccinated Hospital Workers have 250 times higher viral load than original virus (super, super spreaders)

 
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Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 Delta Variant Among Vaccinated Healthcare Workers, VietnamBackground: Data on breakthrough SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant infections are limited.

Methods: We studied breakthrough infections among healthcare workers of a major infectious diseases hospital in Vietnam. We collected demographics, vaccination history and results of PCR diagnosis alongside clinical data. We measured SARS-CoV-2 (neutralizing) antibodies at diagnosis, and at week 1, 2 and 3 after diagnosis. We sequenced the viruses using ARTIC protocol.

Findings: Between 11th–25th June 2021 (week 7–8 after dose 2), 69 healthcare workers were tested positive for SARS-CoV-2. 62 participated in the clinical study. 49 were (pre)symptomatic with one requiring oxygen supplementation. All recovered uneventfully. 23 complete-genome sequences were obtained. They all belonged to the Delta variant, and were phylogenetically distinct from the contemporary Delta variant sequences obtained from community transmission cases, suggestive of ongoing transmission between the workers. Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020. Time from diagnosis to PCR negative was 8–33 days (median: 21). Neutralizing antibody levels after vaccination and at diagnosis of the cases were lower than those in the matched uninfected controls. There was no correlation between vaccine-induced neutralizing antibody levels and viral loads or the development of symptoms.

Interpretation: Breakthrough Delta variant infections are associated with high viral loads, prolonged PCR positivity, and low levels of vaccine-induced neutralizing antibodies, explaining the transmission between the vaccinated people. Physical distancing measures remain critical to reduce SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant transmission.

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Sorry friend, nothing china publishes with regards to this virus has any credibility, Not to mention Israel the most vaccinated nation on earth now has the fastest growing population of the new delta variant on earth
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Do you have any actual evidence to support this claim?
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Still waiting Jake.
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Sorry friend, nothing china publishes with regards to this virus has any credibility, Not to mention Israel the most vaccinated nation on earth now has the fastest growing population of the new delta variant on earth
 Quoting: Jake


Do you have any actual evidence to support this claim?
 Quoting: It's all a scam


Still waiting Jake.
 Quoting: It's all a scam


What more evidence do you need? 1 million people infected

out of a population of 9 million people, they now

have the fastest exploding population of new infections for

the Delta Variant and 69% of their population has been vaccinated twice.

We wont even go into how Pfizer contracted with the Israel government to not report side effects for 10 years after the vaccines.

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No the bible tells you Pharmaceuticals (including vaccinations) are the propaganda

you are just too stupid to hear it.
 Quoting: Jake


No it does not.. I have read the thing.. and I am ordained actually... and it does not say that.. that is manipulative propaganda given thru sick church people.. it is not truth.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


BALONEY!!!! you are most certainly NOT ordained. that is a lie you tell in an attempt to legitimize your posts. It doesn't work because nobody believes that you are ordained.

and the propaganda comes from you You were the one telling everyone that they will take the vaccine that gates cooked up, and you went on and on about how wonderful gates was etc....

blech.
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Everyone with the Delta Variant has an average of 1000x the viral load as the original.


I won't write this off to be fair but it doesn't mean vaccinated people have a higher viral load.
 Quoting: Uncle Gintel


"Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher"

Breakthrough cases = vaccinated cases
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actually you are right. no comparison to viral load in unvaccinated people. if you know of a study off-hand that measures viral load in vaxed vs unvaxed, post it up. i'll look myself
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Sorry friend, nothing china publishes with regards to this virus has any credibility, Not to mention Israel the most vaccinated nation on earth now has the fastest growing population of the new delta variant on earth
 Quoting: Jake


Do you have any actual evidence to support this claim?
 Quoting: It's all a scam


Still waiting Jake.
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What more evidence do you need? 1 million people infected

out of a population of 9 million people, they now

have the fastest exploding population of new infections for

the Delta Variant and 69% of their population has been vaccinated twice.

We wont even go into how Pfizer contracted with the Israel government to not report side effects for 10 years after the vaccines.
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(1) There has been 999,110 cases in Israel TOTAL.

(2) You stating that Israel has "the fastest exploding population of new infections for the Delta variant" does not make it so.
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Hope a ladyboy shared lots with Kamala on her trip.
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This would make sense since this variety of covid was actually created in the body of a vaccinated person. It originated in the UK in the body of a vaccinated person,. and then traveled to India.
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oh and by the way, India using Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine with great success
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Your Right Jake ....Welcome back to the crazzzzzy house....
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Romans 14:11 It is written:
“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.

Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
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I'm sure this has been super addressed, but basically are they saying vaxxed people spread it more? and if so, to vaxxed people or unvaxxed?
Still confused as to who is more vulnerable.

And, are the outcomes the same regardless?
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linky or you stinky...
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oops sorry

Published in the Lancet

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False. It has not been published in The Lancet. It is a preprint. Read the header:

Preprints available here are not Lancet publications or necessarily under review with a Lancet journal. These preprints are early stage research papers that have not been peer-reviewed. The findings should not be used for clinical or public health decision making and should not be presented to a lay audience without highlighting that they are preliminary and have not been peer-reviewed.


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nope its not my brain... its propaganda and I am correct in that.
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No the bible tells you Pharmaceuticals (including vaccinations) are the propaganda

you are just too stupid to hear it.
 Quoting: Jake


No it does not.. I have read the thing.. and I am ordained actually... and it does not say that.. that is manipulative propaganda given thru sick church people.. it is not truth.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


It one hundred percent does tell you that.

You are just an Idiot... Read my signature line.

Jesus himself warned about pharmaceuticals and the end times.

Revelation 18:23 for they were GREAT MEN OF THE EARTH (THAT MEANS DEMONS OR NEPHILIM) BY THEIR PHARMACEUTICALS WERE ALL NATIONS DECEIVED!

IT IS THE GREAT END TIMES DECEPTION THAT JESUS WARNED ABOUT
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Please see above before staking your claims on the paper whioh has not been published in The Lancet, as you claimed.
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No it does not.. I have read the thing.. and I am ordained actually... and it does not say that.. that is manipulative propaganda given thru sick church people.. it is not truth.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


It one hundred percent does tell you that.

You are just an Idiot... Read my signature line.

Jesus himself warned about pharmaceuticals and the end times.

Revelation 18:23 for they were GREAT MEN OF THE EARTH (THAT MEANS DEMONS OR NEPHILIM) BY THEIR PHARMACEUTICALS WERE ALL NATIONS DECEIVED!

IT IS THE GREAT END TIMES DECEPTION THAT JESUS WARNED ABOUT
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this is revelation 18:23

“And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.”
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THE CHURCH CHANGED IT, THE ORIGINAL GREEK READS


“And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy PHARMAKIA were all nations deceived.”

WHY DID THE CHURCH CHANGE IT? THEY OWN THE LARGEST HOSPITAL SYSTEM ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

THEY PROVIDE SERVICES TO OVER 2 BILLION PEOPLE
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find me the original greek on that Jake... Do YOU read original greek.. I don't either.. that is simply the latest religious propaganda going around... and its working will.
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‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.

Revelation 20:15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
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And Jake.. 90% of revelations never hit the bible in the first place.. OK.. you cannot trust that... At the time John saw his visions.. was there medical practices of this time then.. you ones have to learn to SEE and not COPY every thing.

And Jake.. did you know the Roman church had the only so called copy of the "bible" before the King James version... I would consider that if I were you.
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I'm sure this has been super addressed, but basically are they saying vaxxed people spread it more? and if so, to vaxxed people or unvaxxed?
Still confused as to who is more vulnerable.

And, are the outcomes the same regardless?
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Despite Jakes likely intentionally misleading title, that was not the conclusion of this pre-print. This study was gathering data on fully and partially vaccinated healthcare workers only.
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It one hundred percent does tell you that.

You are just an Idiot... Read my signature line.

Jesus himself warned about pharmaceuticals and the end times.

Revelation 18:23 for they were GREAT MEN OF THE EARTH (THAT MEANS DEMONS OR NEPHILIM) BY THEIR PHARMACEUTICALS WERE ALL NATIONS DECEIVED!

IT IS THE GREAT END TIMES DECEPTION THAT JESUS WARNED ABOUT
 Quoting: Jake

this is revelation 18:23

“And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.”
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


THE CHURCH CHANGED IT, THE ORIGINAL GREEK READS


“And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy PHARMAKIA were all nations deceived.”

WHY DID THE CHURCH CHANGE IT? THEY OWN THE LARGEST HOSPITAL SYSTEM ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

THEY PROVIDE SERVICES TO OVER 2 BILLION PEOPLE
 Quoting: Jake


find me the original greek on that Jake... Do YOU read original greek.. I don't either.. that is simply the latest religious propaganda going around... and its working will.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL




Original Greek text of that Bible verse (Revelation 18:23) word by word:

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6th row from the bottom of the table = pharmakeia

The translation of pharmakeia:

pharmakeia: the use of medicine, drugs or spells


Jake is spot on with this.



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Vaccine-induced neutralizing antibodies after the second dose and at diagnosis
87 were lower than those in the matched uninfected controls.
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Eh, you're title is misleading and so is the anti vax article.

While I am anti vax, this study didn't prove what you claim it did. The study, it's results, and it's conclusion is that the Delta variant has a x251 viral load compared to the prior iteration(s).

Nothing to do with vaxed vs unvaxxed
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Eh, you're title is misleading and so is the anti vax article.

While I am anti vax, this study didn't prove what you claim it did. The study, it's results, and it's conclusion is that the Delta variant has a x251 viral load compared to the prior iteration(s).

Nothing to do with vaxed vs unvaxxed
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The report only includes jabbed people so it cannot be genralized to unjabbed like you are claiming. Teh conclusion only applies to the jab unless you have evidence for it applyibg to the unjabbed as well, but that evidence is not included in the OP link.
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Everyone with the Delta Variant has an average of 1000x the viral load as the original.


I won't write this off to be fair but it doesn't mean vaccinated people have a higher viral load.
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Uh bullshit...read the damn article
 Quoting: Jake


I've read the article. There's not one word in there about the viral load of unvaccinated people with the Delta variant. It does mention that one study showed there was no difference in the viral load with the Alpha variant between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.
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Huh?

Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020.”

Let me help you here. There was no vaccine in March-April 2020. So they’re comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated.

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