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Their intent was always to destroy your ability to communicate and forge relationships.
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Do not trust them! Dictators promise freedom in exchange of a few give backs, then after you conform, there are more and more dictates. Fight now before it is too late.
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Does “Two weeks shutdown to flatten the curve”
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Walmart employees are taking the same survey (I did mine yesterday). I said: prefer not to answer. No word yet on mandatory vaccines for store level Walmart employees.
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I had been mentioning this since Trudeau announced he would mandate it... Now while on holidays I am told by a co-worker to check my email for this..... I am numb and feel violated. There is not a specific date yet, but you know there will be one.

For those who say "let them fire you, then sue them".. That is great, but reality is I can't afford no income and try to pay for a lawyer for wrongful dismissal. This case could go potentially for years.. Banks have $$$ that I can't compare with. I am almost 50, can I learn new skill sets for a different job? Absolutely. However with the rate that Canada is implementing this mandate am I kidding myself to think I can find work that will not have this mandated in less then say 2 months?

I will ride this out for as long as I can. My son sees how distraught I am and asked if this means he will have to be vaccinated too now. I am so fucking distraught right now.


I have edited the email to not show the name of the company, or any personal information.


To all employees in Canada,
Last week, the federal government announced that it will be requiring mandatory COVID-19 vaccinations for federal public service employees and articulated an expectation that federally regulated employers, including banks, also require vaccines for their employees. While we will have to work with the government and across the industry on implementing these guidelines, we see this announcement as an important next step in curbing the Delta variant and ensuring Canada’s ability to emerge from the pandemic on strong economic footing.
As we have since the start of the pandemic, we want to communicate with you as transparently as possible, which is why we are letting you know that we are moving in the direction of making vaccinations mandatory for all Canadian-based employees, and contractors, later in the Fall. Since COVID-19 emerged in our lives, the Bank has continually adopted measures to keep our workplaces healthy and safe, including rapid testing at select sites, while strongly encouraging all employees to get fully vaccinated against COVID-19. However, public health guidance tells us that COVID-19 is not disappearing anytime soon, and employers need to remain agile and continuously adapt their health and safety practices. Mandatory vaccines, along with testing, will be a key part in making our workplaces safer and supporting Canada’s economic recovery.
In terms of next steps, our approach has and will continue to be data driven. Across the landscape, many employers are taking steps to understand the vaccine status of their employee populations. This is incredibly important to ensuring workplaces remain healthy in light of the Delta variant. You will soon receive a link to a mandatory and confidential survey where you will be asked to provide your vaccination status. You will have the option of selecting whether you are fully or partially vaccinated, unvaccinated, if you intend on being vaccinated, or you can choose to not disclose. You will also have the opportunity to share feedback that may be valuable to the Bank. You can be assured that the information you provide in this survey will be treated as confidential and will not be shared with your manager. It will be held centrally and used for operational planning purposes only. Given the size and the diverse nature of our operations, implementing mandatory vaccinations will be a complex undertaking and we will communicate as much as we can while this work continues.
In closing, the Bank’s position has always been that the approved COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and the best way to keep our workplaces healthy. We know that each COVID-19 vaccine brings us one step closer to opening up our communities and will allow for more face to face interaction between employees and customers. While the choice to become vaccinated is an individual one, we all have a responsibility to each other. Until such time as vaccines become mandatory, we continue to strongly encourage all employees to get fully vaccinated against COVID-19.
To all employees who are fully vaccinated, thank you for contributing to healthier and safer workplaces and communities. As always, we will keep you posted on our current plans, and should the facts or data evolve and require these plans to adapt, we will continue to provide timely and transparent updates to you.
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The "in October" thing has been echoed in businesses across the US and Canada.

I'm assuming it's an arbitrary agreed-upon date based on the assumption that the thing will be FDA (or equivalent) approved by then.

In other words, it's a gamble.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft



I think you are right. I figure I have until October to figure a clearer future out. Until then I will be riding this out as long as I can . See about taking LOA if need be.
 Quoting: CrazyMama73


i understand where you are coming from OP! My wife was in the same boat, 60 years old, been at the hospital for 26 years, loves her job (really), today she received an email stating that she was granted a religious exemption, she never thought it would happen since many others were turned down but for now she is safe, So since you have the time research exemptions and try that avenue or a medical if you can get a doctor to sign off on it. Good luck I hope it all works out for you and others who are being extorted in to taking the vaccine!

hf
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The "in October" thing has been echoed in businesses across the US and Canada.

I'm assuming it's an arbitrary agreed-upon date based on the assumption that the thing will be FDA (or equivalent) approved by then.

In other words, it's a gamble.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft



I think you are right. I figure I have until October to figure a clearer future out. Until then I will be riding this out as long as I can . See about taking LOA if need be.
 Quoting: CrazyMama73


i understand where you are coming from OP! My wife was in the same boat, 60 years old, been at the hospital for 26 years, loves her job (really), today she received an email stating that she was granted a religious exemption, she never thought it would happen since many others were turned down but for now she is safe, So since you have the time research exemptions and try that avenue or a medical if you can get a doctor to sign off on it. Good luck I hope it all works out for you and others who are being extorted in to taking the vaccine!

hf
 Quoting: M R E


The "in October" thing has been echoed in businesses across the US and Canada.

I'm assuming it's an arbitrary agreed-upon date based on the assumption that the thing will be FDA (or equivalent) approved by then.

In other words, it's a gamble.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft



I think you are right. I figure I have until October to figure a clearer future out. Until then I will be riding this out as long as I can . See about taking LOA if need be.
 Quoting: CrazyMama73


i understand where you are coming from OP! My wife was in the same boat, 60 years old, been at the hospital for 26 years, loves her job (really), today she received an email stating that she was granted a religious exemption, she never thought it would happen since many others were turned down but for now she is safe, So since you have the time research exemptions and try that avenue or a medical if you can get a doctor to sign off on it. Good luck I hope it all works out for you and others who are being extorted in to taking the vaccine!

hf
 Quoting: M R E



Can you post a copy of religious exemption letter you sent?
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I'm seeing a lot of "workplace violence" in our future.

And what do you bet they anticipated just that? It will be blamed on "anti-vaccine" terrorists and might be used as a gun grab and further destabilization.

This invented "covid crises" becomes a catalyst for multiple crises.

Mandates is where this shit will start to get real fucking ugly
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Saying a prayer for you, OP! God loves you and promises to provide all of your needs if you seek Him first. Cry out to Him, seek Him first in your life and watch what He will do for you and your family!

Here is an example a friend told me of their personal experience... recently, my friend was laid off and would not receive any unemployment benefits until 30 days later. He has a wife and 2 kids at home and the only food in the house was a half empty box of cereal. So he prayed for God to provide for his family until they could get some money coming in. God told my friend (and yes, God does speak to His children), that He would feed my friend's entire family from that box of cereal but under no circumstances were they to look inside the box!

So for 30 days, my friend, his wife and two children ate from that box of cereal each day and never went hungry. They all marveled at this miracle but my friend forbid any of them from looking in the box. Finally his money arrived and they were able to go to the grocery store. His oldest child said he couldn't stand it and had to look in the box. My friend gave him permission and when they looked in the box, it was totally empty. They never got another morsel after that. TRUE STORY!

God is good and will provide. All He asks is that you seek Him in a personal relationship, believe on His Son, Jesus Christ, and you will be saved. I hope this encourages you!
"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9

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I had been mentioning this since Trudeau announced he would mandate it... Now while on holidays I am told by a co-worker to check my email for this..... I am numb and feel violated. There is not a specific date yet, but you know there will be one.

For those who say "let them fire you, then sue them".. That is great, but reality is I can't afford no income and try to pay for a lawyer for wrongful dismissal. This case could go potentially for years.. Banks have $$$ that I can't compare with. I am almost 50, can I learn new skill sets for a different job? Absolutely. However with the rate that Canada is implementing this mandate am I kidding myself to think I can find work that will not have this mandated in less then say 2 months?

I will ride this out for as long as I can. My son sees how distraught I am and asked if this means he will have to be vaccinated too now. I am so fucking distraught right now.


I have edited the email to not show the name of the company, or any personal information.


To all employees in Canada,
Last week, the federal government announced that it will be requiring mandatory COVID-19 vaccinations for federal public service employees and articulated an expectation that federally regulated employers, including banks, also require vaccines for their employees. While we will have to work with the government and across the industry on implementing these guidelines, we see this announcement as an important next step in curbing the Delta variant and ensuring Canada’s ability to emerge from the pandemic on strong economic footing.
As we have since the start of the pandemic, we want to communicate with you as transparently as possible, which is why we are letting you know that we are moving in the direction of making vaccinations mandatory for all Canadian-based employees, and contractors, later in the Fall. Since COVID-19 emerged in our lives, the Bank has continually adopted measures to keep our workplaces healthy and safe, including rapid testing at select sites, while strongly encouraging all employees to get fully vaccinated against COVID-19. However, public health guidance tells us that COVID-19 is not disappearing anytime soon, and employers need to remain agile and continuously adapt their health and safety practices. Mandatory vaccines, along with testing, will be a key part in making our workplaces safer and supporting Canada’s economic recovery.
In terms of next steps, our approach has and will continue to be data driven. Across the landscape, many employers are taking steps to understand the vaccine status of their employee populations. This is incredibly important to ensuring workplaces remain healthy in light of the Delta variant. You will soon receive a link to a mandatory and confidential survey where you will be asked to provide your vaccination status. You will have the option of selecting whether you are fully or partially vaccinated, unvaccinated, if you intend on being vaccinated, or you can choose to not disclose. You will also have the opportunity to share feedback that may be valuable to the Bank. You can be assured that the information you provide in this survey will be treated as confidential and will not be shared with your manager. It will be held centrally and used for operational planning purposes only. Given the size and the diverse nature of our operations, implementing mandatory vaccinations will be a complex undertaking and we will communicate as much as we can while this work continues.
In closing, the Bank’s position has always been that the approved COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and the best way to keep our workplaces healthy. We know that each COVID-19 vaccine brings us one step closer to opening up our communities and will allow for more face to face interaction between employees and customers. While the choice to become vaccinated is an individual one, we all have a responsibility to each other. Until such time as vaccines become mandatory, we continue to strongly encourage all employees to get fully vaccinated against COVID-19.
To all employees who are fully vaccinated, thank you for contributing to healthier and safer workplaces and communities. As always, we will keep you posted on our current plans, and should the facts or data evolve and require these plans to adapt, we will continue to provide timely and transparent updates to you.
 Quoting: CrazyMama73

Go to www.action4canada.com and look under notice of liability forms to serve your employer with.
 Quoting: Are you ready to be raptured?


I have had those documents downloaded to send for a few weeks now. I knew this would be the reality soon enough, it is just shocking that Canadians that were so proud at some point are in the majority complying with this bull shit.

There are people who I thought were friends that are like "we are getting tired of this "non vax game" you guys should stop being so selfish. They have been brainwashed to not see through the smoke screen. It is horrifying. All I can do is think about me and my family.
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I am so fucking distraught right now.
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CrazyMama73  (OP)

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I am so fucking distraught right now.
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hf
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Thank you. Taking it one day at a time. Reading some of these other posts, others going through the same scary shit or even worse. My heart goes out to them.
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Make a fake certificate.
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Better yet, create your own business and work from home. Look around you to see what kind of a business would accommodate the people around you.
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Is this the TD Bank?
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Is this the TD Bank?
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All I can say is it is one of the big 4
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Is it likely they’ll let you work from home?

My company just sent out a survey on vaxxed/unvaxxed.
They are wanting to get an idea on it -
I’m concerned we’ll be mandated here before too long as well.
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Is this the TD Bank?
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A friend of mine has explained to me that a different canadian bank from the one posted in this thread (IE: maybe the one you referred to) has chosen to discriminate against employees who have chosen not to be vaccinated or disclose their vaccine status. They will force mandatory vaccine safety training courses only on those who are reporting undisclosed or unvaccinated status, force mandatory masking and testing when on location.
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OP this is hitting closer to home now, as my mother is dealing with a vaccine mandate.

Me - I'm a software developer. I already structured my whole career around not dealing with people or keeping regular hours. I tell my employer when and how I'll work. My policy is as it always has been: my body, my business, I'll get another job before I disclose to you what I put in my body ... but that's ME.

My mother is 67 years old and has been a parochial school teacher for 42 years. She willingly got the vaccine as soon as it was available and has had no problems (except a brief bout of hip paralysis that she refuses to associate with the shot), but her decision had nothing to do with work or any mandate - it was all hers.

However the governor has just MANDATED that all teachers in the state - public AND private schools - be vaccinated ... and my mother is at risk of losing her loyal and most-favorite-ever classroom aide, Kelly, who refuses to be vaccinated. Mom is beside herself.

This is my advice to her to pass on to Kelly:

1) Your employer is not doing you a favor by giving you a job. Being "allowed" to work is a ludicrous concept and although it seems dire, if you think you OWE your employer anything in order to be "allowed" to work, your whole perspective is skewed.

2) No one can make you get a shot in your body. If that's THEIR mandate, then THEY have to deal with the consequences and accommodate YOU.

3) In my state and in others, if they cannot accommodate YOU after they hired you, they are responsible. I know lawyers are expensive, OP, and you shouldn't rely on one to "keep your job" (there are many jobs) ... but trust me, lawyers will be ready to collect compensation from people wronged by this bulshit.

4) Take it one day at a time. Remember that there was only supposed to be "2 weeks to flatten the curve" ... things change like the wind.

One day at a time, OP.

Don't YOU do anything YOU wouldn't have done before this nonsense, and YOU will be fine.

hf
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Is this the TD Bank?
 Quoting: President-Elect Quel


All I can say is it is one of the big 4
 Quoting: CrazyMama73


I'd totally ride that out. I worked for a small bank as a software developer for 7 years and they tried the same stuff with me as with their teller line, and caved real fast.

Banks rely on women, and we all know it's not because they think women are better.

Why in the world would the richest INSTITUTIONS continue to employ and promote WOMEN?

You know the answer, OP.

Stay the course, hold THEM to THEIR agreements, and to the law where you are. They can't HURT you, even if they no longer need your services.

Much love hf
When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug
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Is this the TD Bank?
 Quoting: President-Elect Quel


All I can say is it is one of the big 4
 Quoting: CrazyMama73


I'd totally ride that out. I worked for a small bank as a software developer for 7 years and they tried the same stuff with me as with their teller line, and caved real fast.

Banks rely on women, and we all know it's not because they think women are better.

Why in the world would the richest INSTITUTIONS continue to employ and promote WOMEN?

You know the answer, OP.

Stay the course, hold THEM to THEIR agreements, and to the law where you are. They can't HURT you, even if they no longer need your services.

Much love hf
 Quoting: SugarSand



I plan on staying the course. I work in the back end for the bank, I am not in the public at all. Our department at one point before I started working there was all just work from home. They made the statement the other day that even for those who may continue to work from home permanently to free up space for others will still have to be vaccinated in case of meetings or if equipment issues arise and you are to have to come into the office to have it fixed.. I asked if the the mandatory vaccination will also include the booster shots which seem to be the next step and they coolant' answer. I also asked if the bank and the insurance company that the bank uses for benefits will cover the medical costs for any long term side effects, and their answer was in the even that there is "adverse" side effects that the insurance company would cover it based on our benefit coverage.
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Hey Ontario Peeps, you see that shit now that Doug Ford will be announcing a fucking passport for Ontario? They say it is just for Restaurants and movie theatres, but we all know where this is going. Fucking unreal.
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Is this the TD Bank?
 Quoting: President-Elect Quel



A friend of mine has explained to me that a different canadian bank from the one posted in this thread (IE: maybe the one you referred to) has chosen to discriminate against employees who have chosen not to be vaccinated or disclose their vaccine status. They will force mandatory vaccine safety training courses only on those who are reporting undisclosed or unvaccinated status, force mandatory masking and testing when on location.
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Fuck I hope that isn't the case for the bank I work for. We haven't been given that notice yet, but I know they are waiting for everyone to answer the mandatory questionnaire. I know of many who are waiting for the deadline date to answer it. All we know at this present time is that they said they will be giving everyone an update by the END of the FALL.
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Is it likely they’ll let you work from home?

My company just sent out a survey on vaxxed/unvaxxed.
They are wanting to get an idea on it -
I’m concerned we’ll be mandated here before too long as well.
 Quoting: lemonrumba




They have stated that even if the new "hybrid system" allows for some departments to work from home, mandatory vaccine still applies, as you may have to come into the office to have lap top repairs, software issues resolved, etc.


Amazing how before this, you simply came in, got the repairs done, issues fixed with a mask. How over night it has changed is mind boggling.

I will be riding this out for as long as I can.
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Is this the TD Bank?
 Quoting: President-Elect Quel


All I can say is it is one of the big 4
 Quoting: CrazyMama73


I'd totally ride that out. I worked for a small bank as a software developer for 7 years and they tried the same stuff with me as with their teller line, and caved real fast.

Banks rely on women, and we all know it's not because they think women are better.

Why in the world would the richest INSTITUTIONS continue to employ and promote WOMEN?

You know the answer, OP.

Stay the course, hold THEM to THEIR agreements, and to the law where you are. They can't HURT you, even if they no longer need your services.

Much love hf
 Quoting: SugarSand



I plan on staying the course. I work in the back end for the bank, I am not in the public at all. Our department at one point before I started working there was all just work from home. They made the statement the other day that even for those who may continue to work from home permanently to free up space for others will still have to be vaccinated in case of meetings or if equipment issues arise and you are to have to come into the office to have it fixed.. I asked if the the mandatory vaccination will also include the booster shots which seem to be the next step and they coolant' answer. I also asked if the bank and the insurance company that the bank uses for benefits will cover the medical costs for any long term side effects, and their answer was in the even that there is "adverse" side effects that the insurance company would cover it based on our benefit coverage.
 Quoting: CrazyMama73


That's all they care about. $$ (Bank, after all).

If I were you I'd stay quiet, offer no explanations (you don't owe them any explanations for your personal health stuff) ... and just let them do what they do.

If they DO let you go ... I don't know how it is in CAnada but you'd be eligible for unemployment insurance here AND

no lawyer worth their salt would make you pay in advance ... it might not be a good case now, but as time goes on you'll see people starting to sue and win ... and you'll also be able to get another job, I'm sure.

Good luck. Just remember to look out for YOU and don't give them any ammo to use against you! It's not a terminable offense to refuse medical treatment ... if that's a new requirement for your role, they have to work around YOU one way or another.

hf
When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug
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Is this the TD Bank?
 Quoting: President-Elect Quel



A friend of mine has explained to me that a different canadian bank from the one posted in this thread (IE: maybe the one you referred to) has chosen to discriminate against employees who have chosen not to be vaccinated or disclose their vaccine status. They will force mandatory vaccine safety training courses only on those who are reporting undisclosed or unvaccinated status, force mandatory masking and testing when on location.
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Fuck I hope that isn't the case for the bank I work for. We haven't been given that notice yet, but I know they are waiting for everyone to answer the mandatory questionnaire. I know of many who are waiting for the deadline date to answer it. All we know at this present time is that they said they will be giving everyone an update by the END of the FALL.
 Quoting: CrazyMama73


The employees at that bank are doing RIGHT by forcing the company's hand.

It only takes a few incidents for a pattern of workplace intimidation and hostile work environment to manifest.

One manager cusses out one non-reporter ... it's ON. Hostile work environment.

Every time someone gives them the side eye because they have to have training and wear masks due to the presence of non-reporters, they should report it to HR.

In a corporate system ... USE THAT SYSTEM. Hands clean, heads high ... use THEIR RULES.

hf

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When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug
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Re: I knew it was coming, only a matter of time... Our company sent out the mandate letter
Is this the TD Bank?
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A friend of mine has explained to me that a different canadian bank from the one posted in this thread (IE: maybe the one you referred to) has chosen to discriminate against employees who have chosen not to be vaccinated or disclose their vaccine status. They will force mandatory vaccine safety training courses only on those who are reporting undisclosed or unvaccinated status, force mandatory masking and testing when on location.
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Fuck I hope that isn't the case for the bank I work for. We haven't been given that notice yet, but I know they are waiting for everyone to answer the mandatory questionnaire. I know of many who are waiting for the deadline date to answer it. All we know at this present time is that they said they will be giving everyone an update by the END of the FALL.
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The employees at that bank are doing RIGHT by forcing the company's hand.

It only takes a few incidents for a pattern of workplace intimidation and hostile work environment to manifest.

One manager cusses out one non-reporter ... it's ON. Hostile work environment.

Every time someone gives them the side eye because they have to have training and wear masks due to the presence of non-reporters, they should report it to HR.

In a corporate system ... USE THAT SYSTEM. Hands clean, heads high ... use THEIR RULES.

hf
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Will provide updates as I get them.

Thank you
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If you want Freedom you have to be willing to risk everything you have, to let it go if needed, otherwise you are owned by the material world and the NWO knows that. They have you, it's only a matter of time until they reel you in and turn you against their enemies.

As an adult, you make your own decisions.
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Damn it man
Fight. Resist. Do not comply
You would sell your soul for a paycheck
Men And women died for our freedoms
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Back at them.

Just don't sign it. Perhaps the low level employee who opens it will be informed.

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MEMO TO BOSS:

Just the THOUGHT of getting a vaccination
makes me want to kill the boss...SLOWLY.

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I had been mentioning this since Trudeau announced he would mandate it... Now while on holidays I am told by a co-worker to check my email for this..... I am numb and feel violated. There is not a specific date yet, but you know there will be one.

For those who say "let them fire you, then sue them".. That is great, but reality is I can't afford no income and try to pay for a lawyer for wrongful dismissal. This case could go potentially for years.. Banks have $$$ that I can't compare with. I am almost 50, can I learn new skill sets for a different job? Absolutely. However with the rate that Canada is implementing this mandate am I kidding myself to think I can find work that will not have this mandated in less then say 2 months?

I will ride this out for as long as I can. My son sees how distraught I am and asked if this means he will have to be vaccinated too now. I am so fucking distraught right now.


I have edited the email to not show the name of the company, or any personal information.


To all employees in Canada,
Last week, the federal government announced that it will be requiring mandatory COVID-19 vaccinations for federal public service employees and articulated an expectation that federally regulated employers, including banks, also require vaccines for their employees. While we will have to work with the government and across the industry on implementing these guidelines, we see this announcement as an important next step in curbing the Delta variant and ensuring Canada’s ability to emerge from the pandemic on strong economic footing.
As we have since the start of the pandemic, we want to communicate with you as transparently as possible, which is why we are letting you know that we are moving in the direction of making vaccinations mandatory for all Canadian-based employees, and contractors, later in the Fall. Since COVID-19 emerged in our lives, the Bank has continually adopted measures to keep our workplaces healthy and safe, including rapid testing at select sites, while strongly encouraging all employees to get fully vaccinated against COVID-19. However, public health guidance tells us that COVID-19 is not disappearing anytime soon, and employers need to remain agile and continuously adapt their health and safety practices. Mandatory vaccines, along with testing, will be a key part in making our workplaces safer and supporting Canada’s economic recovery.
In terms of next steps, our approach has and will continue to be data driven. Across the landscape, many employers are taking steps to understand the vaccine status of their employee populations. This is incredibly important to ensuring workplaces remain healthy in light of the Delta variant. You will soon receive a link to a mandatory and confidential survey where you will be asked to provide your vaccination status. You will have the option of selecting whether you are fully or partially vaccinated, unvaccinated, if you intend on being vaccinated, or you can choose to not disclose. You will also have the opportunity to share feedback that may be valuable to the Bank. You can be assured that the information you provide in this survey will be treated as confidential and will not be shared with your manager. It will be held centrally and used for operational planning purposes only. Given the size and the diverse nature of our operations, implementing mandatory vaccinations will be a complex undertaking and we will communicate as much as we can while this work continues.
In closing, the Bank’s position has always been that the approved COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and the best way to keep our workplaces healthy. We know that each COVID-19 vaccine brings us one step closer to opening up our communities and will allow for more face to face interaction between employees and customers. While the choice to become vaccinated is an individual one, we all have a responsibility to each other. Until such time as vaccines become mandatory, we continue to strongly encourage all employees to get fully vaccinated against COVID-19.
To all employees who are fully vaccinated, thank you for contributing to healthier and safer workplaces and communities. As always, we will keep you posted on our current plans, and should the facts or data evolve and require these plans to adapt, we will continue to provide timely and transparent updates to you.
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The idea that you need a lawyer is false.

Everything you need to know about legal procedure is online and if you're willing to do a little work and study, you can do it yourself and you'll never have to go to court, you'll simply reach settlement.
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Yes I can take this to arbitration, I can choose to not work there. But this mandate is the domino affect. Our Transit is being mandated, teachers, nurses, PSW's, it is happening. Fact remains will there actually be any work left that is not mandated because of the Canadian Government putting their nose into where it does not belong.
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yes. after of the vaxtards die off.





GLP