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Pentagon, Big Pharma: Drug Troops to Numb Them to Horrors of War
By Penny Coleman, AlterNet
Posted on January 10, 2008, Printed on January 14, 2008


In June, the Department of Defense Task Force on Mental Health acknowledged "daunting and growing" psychological problems among our troops: Nearly 40 percent of soldiers, a third of Marines and half of National Guard members are presenting with serious mental health issues. They also reported "fundamental weaknesses" in the U.S. military's approach to psychological health. That report was followed in August by the Army Suicide Event Report (ASER), which reported that 2006 saw the highest rate of military suicides in 26 years. And last month, CBS News reported that, based on its own extensive research, over 6,250 American veterans took their own lives in 2005 alone -- that works out to a little more than 17 suicides every day.

That's all pretty bleak, but there is reason for optimism in the long-overdue attention being paid to the emotional and psychic cost of these new wars. The shrill hypocrisy of an administration that has decked itself in yellow ribbons and mandatory lapel pins while ignoring a human crisis of monumental proportion is finally being exposed.

On Dec. 12, Rep. Bob Filner, D-Calif., chairman of the House Veterans Affairs Committee, called a hearing on "Stopping Suicides: Mental Health Challenges Within the Department of Veterans Affairs." At that hearing suggestions were raised and conversations begun that hopefully will bear fruit.

But I find myself extremely anxious in the face of some of these new suggestions, specifically what is being called the Psychological Kevlar Act of 2007 and use of the drug propranalol to treat the symptoms of posttraumatic stress injuries. Though both, at least in theory, sound entirely reasonable, even desirable, in the wrong hands, under the wrong leadership, they could make the sci-fi fantasies of Blade Runner seem prescient.
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Great article OP!
Here is some more of it...

Since World War II, our military has sought and found any number of ways to override the values and belief systems recruits have absorbed from their families, schools, communities and religions. Using the principles of operant conditioning, the military has found ways to reprogram their human software, overriding those characteristics that are inconvenient in a military context, most particularly the inherent resistance human beings have to killing others of their own species. "Modern combat training conditions soldiers to act reflexively to stimuli," says Lt. Col. Peter Kilner, a professor of philosophy and ethics at West Point, "and this maximizes soldiers' lethality, but it does so by bypassing their moral autonomy. Soldiers are conditioned to act without considering the moral repercussions of their actions; they are enabled to kill without making the conscious decision to do so. If they are unable to justify to themselves the fact that they killed another human being, they will likely -- and understandably -- suffer enormous guilt. This guilt manifests itself as post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), and it has damaged the lives of thousands of men who performed their duty in combat."

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And it's not just the inherent conscientious objector our military finds inconvenient: current U.S. military training also includes a component to desensitize male soldiers to the sounds of women being raped, so the enemy cannot use the cries of their fellow soldiers to leverage information. I think it not unreasonable to connect such desensitization techniques to the rates of domestic violence in the military, which are, according to the DoD, five times those in the civilian population. Is anyone really surprised that men who have been specifically trained to ignore the pain and fear of women have a difficult time coming home to their wives and families? And clearly they do. There were 2,374 reported cases of sexual assault in the military in 2005, a 40 percent increase over 2004. But that figure represents only reported cases, and, as Air Force Brig. Gen. K.C. McClain, commander of DoD's Joint Task Force for Sexual Assault Prevention and Response pointed out, "Studies indicate that only 5 percent of sexual assaults are reported."

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What they have come up with has already been dubbed "the mourning after pill." Propranalol, if taken immediately following a traumatic event, can subdue a victim's stress response and so soften his or her perception of the memory. That does not mean the memory has been erased, but proponents claim that the drug can render it emotionally toothless.

If your daughter were raped, the argument goes, wouldn't you want to spare her a traumatic memory that might well ruin her life? As the mother of a 23-year old daughter, I can certainly understand the appeal of that argument. And a drug that could prevent the terrible effects of traumatic injuries in soldiers? If I were the parent of a soldier suffering from such a life-altering injury, I can imagine being similarly persuaded.

Not surprisingly, the Army is already on board. Propranolol is a well-tolerated medication that has been used for years for other purposes.

And it is inexpensive.

But is it moral to weaken memories of horrendous acts a person has committed? Some would say that there is no difference between offering injured soldiers penicillin to prevent an infection and giving a drug that prevents them from suffering from a posttraumatic stress injury for the rest of their lives. Others, like Leon Kass, former chairman of the President's Council on Bioethics, object to propranolol's use on the grounds that it medicates away one's conscience. "It's the morning-after pill for just about anything that produces regret, remorse, pain or guilt," he says. Barry Romo, a national coordinator for Vietnam Veterans Against the War, is even more blunt. "That's the devil pill," he says. "That's the monster pill, the anti-morality pill. That's the pill that can make men and women do anything and think they can get away with it. Even if it doesn't work, what's scary is that a young soldier could believe it will."
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Thanks for the pin! I was hoping this would get some attention. I just heard about it. It really is Brave New World meets 1984.
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the war on our minds and our freedoms continue. I guess the war on our minds doesn't effect some of us but the war on our freedoms will continue into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I'm shocked that they are using Propranalol and then ... I'm not.

This is a quick acting anesthetic with little hangover effects - - I have estimated between 75-80% of patients it's used on, comment post-operatively, on how much they enjoyed it AND would like more.

It also has aphrodesiac properties, as I understand.



Becoming comfortably numb is easier than fighting and overcoming - - which we can all do with free-will and God's power in us.


God knows PTSD sufferers need therapy, but drugs that remove them from reality will not cure their pain.

I'd look for Propranalol to become the #1 abused street drug soon, if it is indeed, being used for PTSD (and/or whatever).




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This will also come in handy as an excuse to deny the veterans the right to firearms ownership, as they are on "psychotropic" drugs...

How convenient!
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This will also come in handy as an excuse to deny the veterans the right to firearms ownership, as they are on "psychotropic" drugs...

How convenient!
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OMG!

How probably so very true.

And so very sad.
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Check out this song by Neonuris called It's a Brave New World.
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geeze man. figures. where/when will the horror end?
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WTF??? I posted this a few days ago.
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Literally it performs like a true brain wash


wiping the bad memory from mind supposedly


seems what I have read for several years there has been a push for this crap and it is crap



I have memories for a reason

They have suggested using this on rape victims(that will surely compromise their testimony) and others who view apocalyptic scenes-like Columbine High


sadly, many are given chemical lobotomies in place of the old ones or the ECT(electro-convulsive shock therapy)


scrambling brains seems to command all kinds of illicit support and black arts...




wake up folks-is this why so many vets were not getting the treatment for PTSD when diagnosed-to have an extreme need for a 'fix'? Of course all of them who get mental dx will not be allowed guns...how convieniently it all ties up...


can anyone say Frances Farmer???

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Vietnam would come to mind if I hadn't already lost it.
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Wow.

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The war on drugs marches on....
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Thank you for the post OP and 2XSA. This is not good at all.
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the beast my god the beast is getting stronger...can we defeat this evil least it devours all of us..my god
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i read that something like 40 percent of iraqi citizens are on tranquilizers. they bring them in by the truckload to help people "cope" with the shitty conditions there.
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Here's a fun one they gave (and still give) U.S. soldiers/sailors.... "Lariam". I had all kinds of trouble sleeping after being given this happy, little, anti-malarial (and I reacted well). The psychotropic effects are really bad. Check it out=, it's a fun read (sarcasm definitely intended).
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I'm shocked that they are using Propranalol and then ... I'm not.

This is a quick acting anesthetic with little hangover effects - - I have estimated between 75-80% of patients it's used on, comment post-operatively, on how much they enjoyed it AND would like more.

It also has aphrodesiac properties, as I understand.



Becoming comfortably numb is easier than fighting and overcoming - - which we can all do with free-will and God's power in us.


God knows PTSD sufferers need therapy, but drugs that remove them from reality will not cure their pain.

I'd look for Propranalol to become the #1 abused street drug soon, if it is indeed, being used for PTSD (and/or whatever).




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Are you nuts?! Propanalol is for high blood pressure mostly, and can actually reduce a person's sex drive, reduce heart rate and has no obvious effects on the patient whatsoever. I find it absurd that it would be abused as a street drug, it's about a good a high as aspirin or a vitamin C pill.
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You guys need to look up propanalol, which is generic for inderol. It's laughable that it could help with post traumatic stress syndrome.
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(COP-IED. uSING BETA-BLOCKERS TO PREVENT PSTD IS SOMETHING THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR AWHILE NOEW iT IS NOT 'POSED TO MAKE YOU FORGET, JUST TO PREVENT THE AUTONOUMOUS NERVOUS SYSTEM REACTION FROM KICKING-IN DURING A TRAMATICALLY STRESSFULL EVENT.
If someone did something morally repugnant in war, why would someone assume they would lose his/ or her morals all of a sudden?
This has more to do with stress chemistry than morals from the way that I understand it.
It is blood-pressure medicine.)
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FRIDAY, July 29 (HealthDay News) -- Widely used heart medications called beta blockers may take the terror out of disturbing memories in people with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), researchers report.

In both animal trials and preliminary work with humans, use of the beta blocker propranolol during a PTSD attack appeared to help separate the fear that's characteristic of PTSD from the memory that once triggered it.

The researchers don't think the beta blocker erases or diminishes the memory.

"Our expectation is that we're reducing the hyperarousal associated with the memory -- we expect that the memory will still be there," explained lead researcher Dr. Margaret Altemus, an associate professor of psychiatry at the Weill College of Medicine at Cornell University, in New York City.

But this new approach to easing PTSD symptoms isn't without its critics, one of whom worries the drug might be misused to desensitize individuals, such as soldiers, to acts of atrocity.

At this point in the research, though, it's too early to tell how well beta blockers might work even as a therapeutic aid, Altemus said.

"There were two small studies that have already been done using propranolol for PTSD, where they treated people right when the accident happened -- they found people in the emergency room. One study was done in France, and one was done in Boston," she said. "They did find they were able to reduce the [emotional] intensity of traumatic memories by giving people propranolol for the first 10 days or so after an accident."

But Altemus also pointed out that PTSD is rather rare, with less than 10 percent of accident victims experiencing the recurrent flashbacks, isolation and avoidant behaviors that are hallmarks of the condition. So, it wouldn't make sense to hand out propranolol to everyone who'd suffered a traumatic event, she said.

In theory, beta blockers such as propranolol work to reduce memory-associated fear through their effects on hormones linked to fear and arousal.

"Every time you have that intense, overwhelming fear in a PTSD attack you release catecholamines -- another word for adrenalin hormones," Altemus explained. "Those actually make the memory stronger and more intense. So, it's a kind of vicious circle for people with PTSD."

"What propranolol does is block one of the [cell] receptors that catecholamines work on, the beta-adrenergic receptor," she added. The theory is that by blocking this hormonal response during memory-evoked PTSD attacks, individuals will gradually be able to remember the triggering event without its attendant panic and fear.

In animal studies, Altemus' team found that mice trained to fear a tone followed by an electric shock lost that fear if given propranolol just after the tone started.

The researchers have also done work in healthy, non-PTSD individuals, conditioned in the lab to fear seeing a blue square because it had previously been linked to a mild electric shock.

"In our preliminary analysis that we presented at the Society of Neuroscience meeting last year, we did see that -- at least initially -- people that took propranolol had less of a fear response [to the square] on the third day. That work hasn't been published yet, but it's encouraging," Altemus said.

Beta blockers are not the first drugs to be used in the treatment of PTSD; the U.S. Food and Drug Administration long ago approved selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) such as Paxil and Zoloft for the condition. But the most effective and widely used treatment by far is "exposure therapy" -- where the patient is exposed to stimuli associated with the traumatic event. Altemus said many patients would welcome a treatment option that allowed them to avoid that type of re-living of the experience, however.

She stressed that beta blockers, if proven effective, "could be used to augment other therapies. It might be something you could add to exposure therapy, to help it work better," she said. The drugs have few side effects, but they are not recommended for individuals with either asthma or diabetes, the researcher added.

However, one expert is concerned the drugs might have a darker side. In an interview with Nature magazine this week, Dr. Paul McHugh, a psychiatrist at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, worried that, "If soldiers did something that ended up with children getting killed, do you want to give them beta blockers so that they can do it again?"

McHugh, who is also a member of the President's Council on Bioethics, believes "psychiatrists are once again marching where angels fear to tread."

But Altemus believes McHugh is looking at trauma's aftermath in the wrong way.

"I think Dr. McHugh may have been assuming that what prevents soldiers from committing atrocities is this overwhelming fear," she said. "I've never been in a war, but my guess is that they do these things because they are really angry, or through some kind of group attitude."

Altemus also believes that effective PTSD treatments might "unlock" individuals otherwise emotionally frozen by traumatic events. "If you take someone who has been in the Holocaust or was raped -- their ability to change laws or prevent that event from happening again is actually inhibited by having PTSD," she said. "PTSD is a really disabling illness, and people are able to be themselves and be more active if they don't have it."

According to the Associated Press, a study released Thursday by the U.S. Army surgeon general's office estimates that between 4 percent and 5 percent of returning Iraqi veterans with combat experience suffer from PTSD.

Funded by a grant from the National Institutes of Health, Altemus is currently working to recruit PTSD patients for a large-scale trial of propranolol -- a tough job when effective interventions such as exposure therapy already exist. She said that as soon as she's able to recruit the 60 people needed for the trial, results should be available within a year.

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For more on PTSD, head to the National Institute of Mental Health.

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Margaret Altemus, M.D.
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The only real problem is the pill popping culture. People have sought either justification or a way to numb the experience since war began. Either by telling themselves they're doing the right thing, or by using mind altering substances. This is just the new way it's done.
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I'm shocked that they are using Propranalol and then ... I'm not.

This is a quick acting anesthetic with little hangover effects - - I have estimated between 75-80% of patients it's used on, comment post-operatively, on how much they enjoyed it AND would like more.

It also has aphrodesiac properties, as I understand.



Becoming comfortably numb is easier than fighting and overcoming - - which we can all do with free-will and God's power in us.


God knows PTSD sufferers need therapy, but drugs that remove them from reality will not cure their pain.

I'd look for Propranalol to become the #1 abused street drug soon, if it is indeed, being used for PTSD (and/or whatever).




Never was a good war or a bad peace. - Ben Franklin


Are you nuts?! Propanalol is for high blood pressure mostly, and can actually reduce a person's sex drive, reduce heart rate and has no obvious effects on the patient whatsoever. I find it absurd that it would be abused as a street drug, it's about a good a high as aspirin or a vitamin C pill.
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Good catch, there!

Not nuts, just confused ... yikes, I got my drugs mixed up. I'm glad I wasn't working. :P

The drug I was mistaking this for is called Propophol, also spelled propofol - - not the first time I've mixed up their names - - but, I would hope, the last.


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I don't see Propanalol being abused, either. If it's like inderal, it makes people sleepy.
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Everyone should just smoke/orally ingest cannabis instead of all these anti-depressants and other drugs the big pharmaceutical industry tries to push on us. But, it can make you depressed with prolonged heavy use.
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Everyone should just smoke/orally ingest cannabis instead of all these anti-depressants and other drugs the big pharmaceutical industry tries to push on us. But, it can make you depressed with prolonged heavy use.
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i propose food, relaxation, good healing baths and showers and saunas and spending lots of time outdoors, with the level of social interaction individually chosen
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cannabis is NOT a good idea when you are down.

it enhances the mood you are in after a short relaxation of 45 minutes.
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back in the 70's when I signed up to play G.I.JOE, the drug of choice provided by good old uncle sam was booze. thought it odd that at 18 I could buy/drink all the booze I wanted on the A.F. base
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The potential abuses of these "therapies" are indeed scary. However, don't gloss over the mental health figures to carelessly to get to the more thought provoking stuff. This War in Iraq is decimating the mental health and mental functioning of our armed forces! Our readiness to deal with true military threats has to be at it's lowest in at least a century!

That they now have an excuse to slip in drug therapies with the potential to "wipe clean" the "horrors of war" and make deeds carried out by the military seem like nothing but a foggy dream is just icing on the cake for the Neocons who have set all this into motion.

The goal is and has always been the destruction of the U.S., only possible by alienating us from the rest of the world and weakening us from with in.

No big surprise that they can now offer a bio-chemical "potion" to sooth the guilt and trauma our troops may experience if ordered to turn upon the American People, (well, the "traitorous Americans" who dare oppose the agenda and those who otherwise "give them any excuse").

Frightening times we live in.
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This is a very serious step.

It means that the New Gestapo will have no conscience.

We have already seen the horrors of the Holocaust brigade in Jailing both Zundel and his lawyer for thought crimes.

The horror is that there are no public demonstrations against this most serious of crimes against humanity. Make no mistake thought crimes, and a society that doesn't immediately and vigorously reject the notion, is the end of civilisation.
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This will also come in handy as an excuse to deny the veterans the right to firearms ownership, as they are on "psychotropic" drugs...

How convenient!
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As some of us are aware, many Vietnam's Vets came back drug addicts to "street" drugs.

I have always suspected that it was an American dealer who got them hooked.

I suspect this is basically the same thing, but now we are using the "legal" mood alterers to achieve the same goals.
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