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Comms Prepping. Ham Radio, CB, Shortwave, ETC, get in here now

 
TimeIsShort (OP)
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This guy has good videos and good instructions for begginers

suggest starting here: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

there are a bunch of other radio guys on youtube as well, but he is a good one to start with.

tons of content to watch and learn.

good info and great to learn.
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Yeah he is a great Ham Radio youtuber. Def recommend.
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Has anyone built a "druzhba" radio? Is it a good design?


[link to rv3yf.us (secure)]
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I nice HF SDR transceiver for cheap is the 'Hermes Lite 2'. It makes for a fantastic receiver out of the box. You only get 5 watts output so you may want to get a separate amplifier for it if interested.
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Now is the time to procure transceivers (also SDR devices) and antennas while still accessible. Learn to operate them and help get others in your local area setup before this entire thing sh*ts the bed...


Having a couple baofeng handheld HTs in the box with the stock rubber ducky antennas that arent programmed for repeaters or anything local and think you are prepped with comms.... not happening.

Get prepped now, these things will be scarce soon and they are already targeting hams for potential conspiracy theory terrorists. Have your gear in place now!
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Great post OP.

Everyone here needs to understand that this is not some roll-playing fantasy doom thread. Get your stuff NOW.

Got a CB gathering dust somewhere? Get it out and on the air. Make sure it's in working order. FRS Radios can be helpful too. Make sure you have a way to charge batteries, or have a large cache of lithium and or alkaline batteries ready to go.

If you can afford it, go buy a Uniden SDS100 handheld scanner and get all the upgrades for it (you have to pay for the ability to receive all the digital modes). Side-note on the scanner, obviously it won't let you listen to encrypted comms, but when it all goes down it'll still let you listen to plenty.

Get a good shortwave receiver.

Learn to use these things before things get bad.

When SHTF, stay passive as much as possible (radio silence is a good thing). When you heard things on the radio keep a notepad handy and write down what you heard, the frequency and mode, and the time of day or night.

Thanks again OP!!!

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I nice HF SDR transceiver for cheap is the 'Hermes Lite 2'. It makes for a fantastic receiver out of the box. You only get 5 watts output so you may want to get a separate amplifier for it if interested.
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Thanks hf
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[link to www.websdr.org]
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I just bought mid level GMRS and Ham handhelds with "SHTF" scanners. Wouxsun.

Still need the Ham license to transmit though. Studying for that test.
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News flash, if SHTF I do not think they will be checking for Ham licenses, just sayin.

I believe those folks will be heading for bunkers.
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Now is the time to procure transceivers (also SDR devices) and antennas while still accessible. Learn to operate them and help get others in your local area setup before this entire thing sh*ts the bed...


Having a couple baofeng handheld HTs in the box with the stock rubber ducky antennas that arent programmed for repeaters or anything local and think you are prepped with comms.... not happening.

Get prepped now, these things will be scarce soon and they are already targeting hams for potential conspiracy theory terrorists. Have your gear in place now!
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which baofeng models do you recommend?
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Now is the time to procure transceivers (also SDR devices) and antennas while still accessible. Learn to operate them and help get others in your local area setup before this entire thing sh*ts the bed...


Having a couple baofeng handheld HTs in the box with the stock rubber ducky antennas that arent programmed for repeaters or anything local and think you are prepped with comms.... not happening.

Get prepped now, these things will be scarce soon and they are already targeting hams for potential conspiracy theory terrorists. Have your gear in place now!
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which baofeng models do you recommend?
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Baofeng UV-5R Super cheap and grab a mount antenna too.
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Now is the time to procure transceivers (also SDR devices) and antennas while still accessible. Learn to operate them and help get others in your local area setup before this entire thing sh*ts the bed...


Having a couple baofeng handheld HTs in the box with the stock rubber ducky antennas that arent programmed for repeaters or anything local and think you are prepped with comms.... not happening.

Get prepped now, these things will be scarce soon and they are already targeting hams for potential conspiracy theory terrorists. Have your gear in place now!
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which baofeng models do you recommend?
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Baofeng UV-5R Super cheap and grab a mount antenna too.
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They're all cheap! It's great. I'm seeing 9 different models though...
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Now is the time to procure transceivers (also SDR devices) and antennas while still accessible. Learn to operate them and help get others in your local area setup before this entire thing sh*ts the bed...


Having a couple baofeng handheld HTs in the box with the stock rubber ducky antennas that arent programmed for repeaters or anything local and think you are prepped with comms.... not happening.

Get prepped now, these things will be scarce soon and they are already targeting hams for potential conspiracy theory terrorists. Have your gear in place now!
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which baofeng models do you recommend?
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Baofeng UV-5R Super cheap and grab a mount antenna too.
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Fwiw, you'll probably never need it but in case you do, you have it. Program it to scan your local Ham repeaters first and foremost.

Also, scream MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY (3 times) to make sure you're broadcasting. (lol)
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SW antenna idea: get some old telephone "drop" wire, that is the wire that used to run from the road to the house. The old flat style, with two copper wires in them. Can cut one side of the copper shorter, have one longer, to "tune" into the general listening area. Old drop wire is easy to run temporary, easy to roll up and store or take with you somewhere.
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I bought a mobile ham unit... that will run on a car battery - when I run out of gas for the generator

I hooked it up and played with it, using the cb type antenna that came with it ... and I listened, to the chatter for about a week and then I put it back in the box wrapped in faraday cloth in my metal file - and there it sits with my HAM RADIO for dummys book... waiting for the STHTF when I have plenty of time to read how to operate it properly - I read that the antenna gives off bad vibes, so I didn't want to use it until it was necessary

I figured it was better to have one, than not ...


some of my neighbors are already flying black flags... I ordered mine from walmart on-line ( not like they don't know who we are and where we live) ... but they will know, if they step foot on my property, I'm not going to surrender to zombies. We have the right to defend our property from enemies, foreign and domestic
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i wish i bought and learned how to use ham radio. Op I would like to know if what they say is true..... If ham users find out someone doesnt have a ham license will be ignored and outed by the other ham operators????
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You won't be ignored but you will be outed--rapidly.

Licensed hams have gov-assigned (e.g. FCC in U.S.) unique call signs, and you're required to transmit call sign every ten minutes during a communication, and at the end of communication. Lack of a legit call sign and basic operating knowledge will quickly be exposed.

Hams are generally nice, serious, studious people, but as a group are extremely protective of their spectrum, and extremely good at self-policing. Don't mess around on the ham bands. It won't go well.
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SW antenna idea: get some old telephone "drop" wire, that is the wire that used to run from the road to the house. The old flat style, with two copper wires in them. Can cut one side of the copper shorter, have one longer, to "tune" into the general listening area. Old drop wire is easy to run temporary, easy to roll up and store or take with you somewhere.
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Good but insanely outdated...


Things changed a bit since 1964. Aluminum speaker wiring is a lighter, cheaper and better tool for the exact thing said above.

Copper wire... lol, there's a certain bunch of someones who stole all that shit out of lightposts in the past few years and it wasn't for comm reception.
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I bought a mobile ham unit... that will run on a car battery - when I run out of gas for the generator

I hooked it up and played with it, using the cb type antenna that came with it ... and I listened, to the chatter for about a week and then I put it back in the box wrapped in faraday cloth in my metal file - and there it sits with my HAM RADIO for dummys book... waiting for the STHTF when I have plenty of time to read how to operate it properly - I read that the antenna gives off bad vibes, so I didn't want to use it until it was necessary

I figured it was better to have one, than not ...


some of my neighbors are already flying black flags... I ordered mine from walmart on-line ( not like they don't know who we are and where we live) ... but they will know, if they step foot on my property, I'm not going to surrender to zombies. We have the right to defend our property from enemies, foreign and domestic
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Black flags?

What's that all about?

Haven't seen that here at all.
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Any recommendations for 20 mile range with some hills in the way? I have no interest in getting licensed for HAM it seems so stupid to me the way people talk over HAM.
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Get a Ranger 2950 DX6 10 meter radio. You can either do the conversion to 11 meters yourself, of have the online retailer do it for you.

That radio will cover the 10, 11, and 12 meter bands. No license necessary for 11 meters. The radio will put out 100 watts right out the back, without having to buy an amplifier. And you can turn it down to one watt, if you want to talk to close stations without broadcasting distance.

Put up a Max 2000 base antenna. Get it up at least 20 feet at the base, but the higher the better for ground wave propagation.

This setup is a great SHTF means of communications. You can talk to hams or CB'ers, and if the skip is coming in, talk to people all over the country, or even all over the world, depending on ionospheric conditions.
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I just bought mid level GMRS and Ham handhelds with "SHTF" scanners. Wouxsun.

Still need the Ham license to transmit though. Studying for that test.
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good deal. good luck on test, lots of free apps and websites to help for test prep
 Quoting: TimeIsShort 79148274


You don't need the test for GMRS. Pay the fee and you and family/friends are good.

P.s. 40W - 50W mobile GMRS systems are fantastic.

.
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Any recommendations for 20 mile range with some hills in the way? I have no interest in getting licensed for HAM it seems so stupid to me the way people talk over HAM.
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Get a Ranger 2950 DX6 10 meter radio. You can either do the conversion to 11 meters yourself, of have the online retailer do it for you.

That radio will cover the 10, 11, and 12 meter bands. No license necessary for 11 meters. The radio will put out 100 watts right out the back, without having to buy an amplifier. And you can turn it down to one watt, if you want to talk to close stations without broadcasting distance.

Put up a Max 2000 base antenna. Get it up at least 20 feet at the base, but the higher the better for ground wave propagation.

This setup is a great SHTF means of communications. You can talk to hams or CB'ers, and if the skip is coming in, talk to people all over the country, or even all over the world, depending on ionospheric conditions.
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I have a twenty mile range between me and my sister over hilly terrain.

We both have 40W Midland GMRS radios in our vehicles and we talk as clear as if we lived next to each other.

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reminder: you don't need a HAM license during an emergency
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Correct, but if you arent practicing before an event then its the same has having a gun but never sighting it in/practicing. You have one but you wont be ready to use it when the time comes. This is the big prepper issue with comms, lots of people dont want to get in FCC database for good reason but also wont know how to effectively use HAM radio gear or comms when SHTF, esp HF and antenna setup and propagation principles because they will have had 0 experience. Not smart move. Get at least general class license and join local ham club and learn and practice before you arent able to.
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Could this be done 100% on line? And, hypothetically speaking, could someone study in the U.S. whilst being in a different country?
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SW antenna idea: get some old telephone "drop" wire, that is the wire that used to run from the road to the house. The old flat style, with two copper wires in them. Can cut one side of the copper shorter, have one longer, to "tune" into the general listening area. Old drop wire is easy to run temporary, easy to roll up and store or take with you somewhere.
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Good but insanely outdated...


Things changed a bit since 1964. Aluminum speaker wiring is a lighter, cheaper and better tool for the exact thing said above.

Copper wire... lol, there's a certain bunch of someones who stole all that shit out of lightposts in the past few years and it wasn't for comm reception.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33225835


I know techs that routinely take down this wire and toss it when they install internet... its out there. and free.
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Now is the time to procure transceivers (also SDR devices) and antennas while still accessible. Learn to operate them and help get others in your local area setup before this entire thing sh*ts the bed...


Having a couple baofeng handheld HTs in the box with the stock rubber ducky antennas that arent programmed for repeaters or anything local and think you are prepped with comms.... not happening.

Get prepped now, these things will be scarce soon and they are already targeting hams for potential conspiracy theory terrorists. Have your gear in place now!
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Great idea, can someone please dumb this down for me?

Thanks in advance

peace
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Can somebody explain in what sort of situation it might be good to have a receiver? Prob not going to get a license..

Also is there any benefit to having one in the city?
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I got HAM license and dont mind using the frs channels for SHTF stuff- I dont care what the gov regulates anymore
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Thanks for the thread, OP.
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ZetaTalk: Short Wave
Note: added during the Dec 7, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Short Wave will be the communication mode of survivors, but this is not a high technology issue. CB and Ham radios are in many hands, highly popular and much used, world wide. Radios can be cranked up for power, devices that can be purchased today, and used by the military in the field. No power requirements. PC use in short wave packet relay is more complicated, but home computers are prevalent, and hackers can adjust to the requirements if they have access to written instructions ahead of time, and many will! The community does not need all computer functioning, just one. It does not need major electrical support, just fast peddling on the bike gen rack for the hour. It does not need booster towers on every hill, as good hearted communities will find they are being boosted beyond their hopes, by helping hands behind the scenes.
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u aint going to make it unless you got selected for the shelter. Your ham radio is going to be under water. Kiss your @$$ goodbeye
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I've got a pair of baofeng radios. No license to use them except on FRS and GMRS frequencies.

People, print out the information you'll need to use these radios if you have them. Keep the instruction booklets with the radios and chargers. You'll need the common frequencies people will be using (FRS, GMRS) and you'll need to know to use narrow band setting. I imagine power output setting will become unimportant if society is melting down, but do use minimal output when you can to prevent interference with others or from being heard by too many undesirable people further away. And remember to be careful what you say. You done want to be telling loved ones where to meet you with your weapons and food supply, lol. Write down confidential information on paper with code words to reference this info and keep copies with each radio. Although using coded transmissions is illegal, I doubt it will matter if society has collapsed and your fleeing for your lives.
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Now is the time to procure transceivers (also SDR devices) and antennas while still accessible. Learn to operate them and help get others in your local area setup before this entire thing sh*ts the bed...


Having a couple baofeng handheld HTs in the box with the stock rubber ducky antennas that arent programmed for repeaters or anything local and think you are prepped with comms.... not happening.

Get prepped now, these things will be scarce soon and they are already targeting hams for potential conspiracy theory terrorists. Have your gear in place now!
 Quoting: TimeIsShort 79148274




Oh gee whizzz... Is there anything that DOESN'T make a normal person a terrorist?

I'm so fucking sick of this insanity.

The leftist mind is PURE EVIL.
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No kidding.

'They' have determined that anyone who doesn't fall into 'lockstep' with their narrative, is an enemy of the state/terrorist.

They must be self-appointed 'deciders of all,' because I didnt nominate or elect any of them.

They can all fuck off.
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OP I’ve thought about this, please educate me on the topic. Because my fear is that I’d buy the equipment but then when TSHTF no ones else has it so it’d be useless for communication anyway. Where am I wrong?
Like I told my ex-wife, I said: honey, I never drive faster than I can see. Besides that, it’s all in the reflexes…
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Now is the time to procure transceivers (also SDR devices) and antennas while still accessible. Learn to operate them and help get others in your local area setup before this entire thing sh*ts the bed...


Having a couple baofeng handheld HTs in the box with the stock rubber ducky antennas that arent programmed for repeaters or anything local and think you are prepped with comms.... not happening.

Get prepped now, these things will be scarce soon and they are already targeting hams for potential conspiracy theory terrorists. Have your gear in place now!
 Quoting: TimeIsShort 79148274




Oh gee whizzz... Is there anything that DOESN'T make a normal person a terrorist?

I'm so fucking sick of this insanity.

The leftist mind is PURE EVIL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80746153


No kidding.

'They' have determined that anyone who doesn't fall into 'lockstep' with their narrative, is an enemy of the state/terrorist.

They must be self-appointed 'deciders of all,' because I didnt nominate or elect any of them.

They can all fuck off.
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Thats what we call....PANIC....They are SO out numbered and scared to death if they fail...So many lamp posts and ropes, so little time....





GLP