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Preferred Pronouns in the Workplace...CLOWN WORLD

 
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This is not clown world, this is insane world. At best we guard our own prison cells...
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Been there, done that
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Took him days to calm down, he's still unsettled and now uncomfortable with his job. Unfortunately it's a great, high paying job to boot, so it's not so easy just to walk away. In the end he may have to though.

How have you dealt with it?
 Quoting: Daniel's Window


Begin quietly and covertly dismantling the company from within. Leak trade secrets to the competition. Record every conversation for protection and black mail. For the pronoun employees, use every advantage to destroy and discredit their person and ability.

This is war. Wars are played to be won.

In the meanwhile, avoid all pronouns and dehumanize the They by referring to the mutant as "Valued Employee".
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Insanity is spreading like wild fire. Just as I’ve been predicting. It’s gonna get worse. Much worse.
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I know, every day it's a new major change for the worse, I can only imagine where we'll be in a year. Fucking Twilight Zone.
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We should all make up our own pronouns, make them ridiculously difficult to pronounce and remember...like xeirxonyx/xemxonyx.

Then every time a woke lib talks to you, even if they say your pronoun, just FREAK OUT and act like they got it wrong, tell them they're a bigot and that you're highly offended.
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This is not clown world, this is insane world. At best we guard our own prison cells...
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CLOWN WORLD
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:pennywiser:
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My step-son works for a Tier 1 automotive supplier, recently a new company wide HR mandate called for Preferred Pronouns to be used when addressing co-workers in all intercompany email. His position requires email use all day, so it's been an adjustment to say the least, but then this happens...

He received an email addressing He/She/They, now given that his position is also strictly confidential in many cases, kept only between the two persons communicating, he questioned the sender on what the They meant. He didn't understand, and was concerned that there was more than just the sender communicating within the email. Legit concern, right?

He received a very VERY nasty response from the sender stating that they were greatly offended, that he/she identified as They and was subsequently accused of being a racist white supremacist. A short while later he was then called in for a meeting with his boss and his/her/they's boss, right on up the ladder, and was severely reprimanded as well as being threatened with being terminated as well as socially cancelled.

UN-FUCKING-REAL!!!
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i simply would not have responded to the email
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My step-son works for a Tier 1 automotive supplier, recently a new company wide HR mandate called for Preferred Pronouns to be used when addressing co-workers in all intercompany email. His position requires email use all day, so it's been an adjustment to say the least, but then this happens...

He received an email addressing He/She/They, now given that his position is also strictly confidential in many cases, kept only between the two persons communicating, he questioned the sender on what the They meant. He didn't understand, and was concerned that there was more than just the sender communicating within the email. Legit concern, right?

He received a very VERY nasty response from the sender stating that they were greatly offended, that he/she identified as They and was subsequently accused of being a racist white supremacist. A short while later he was then called in for a meeting with his boss and his/her/they's boss, right on up the ladder, and was severely reprimanded as well as being threatened with being terminated as well as socially cancelled.

UN-FUCKING-REAL!!!
 Quoting: Daniel's Window


i simply would not have responded to the email
 Quoting: from5thdimension


Unavoidable in this case.
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What does "he received an email adressing he/she/They" actually mean ..

Like..it said as an example "They said no to this." (When ordinarily it would say "He said no to this." Right?

Bur then the sender is gettung or worked up in behalf of the 'they' person, and not him/herself, right?

Is this what you mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79698561


No, the They was the sender, it replied with He/She/They which caused him to question how many people were reading the email.
 Quoting: Daniel's Window


You'll have to excuse me. Im not trying to be difficult, just trying to get a handle on it exactly.

So, the reply to your step son..was the exact wording "He/She/They" written? But in what context?

How did the sender refer to himself in that way? In his sign off?

Like:

"Yours sincerely,
He/She/They" ?
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What does "he received an email adressing he/she/They" actually mean ..

Like..it said as an example "They said no to this." (When ordinarily it would say "He said no to this." Right?

Bur then the sender is gettung or worked up in behalf of the 'they' person, and not him/herself, right?

Is this what you mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79698561


No, the They was the sender, it replied with He/She/They which caused him to question how many people were reading the email.
 Quoting: Daniel's Window


You'll have to excuse me. Im not trying to be difficult, just trying to get a handle on it exactly.

So, the reply to your step son..was the exact wording "He/She/They" written? But in what context?

How did the sender refer to himself in that way? In his sign off?

Like:

"Yours sincerely,
He/She/They" ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79698561


I do believe it was:

To Whom it may concern
He/She/They

And then just a signature at the bottom. That's what caused him to question how many people were on the email, what THEY meant.

It, used the argument that it identified as a They, and that all employees addressing anyone should always include They, that They deserve to be recognized because They don't identify as either he or she.

Omg, I'm spinning my own fucking wheels now...fuck IT, lol.
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Apache/AH-64/Attack Helicopter
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We should all make up our own pronouns, make them ridiculously difficult to pronounce and remember...like xeirxonyx/xemxonyx.

Then every time a woke lib talks to you, even if they say your pronoun, just FREAK OUT and act like they got it wrong, tell them they're a bigot and that you're highly offended.
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Life's already too fucking complicated to add another game. Fuck them.
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Skeleton/Flesh Bag/Meat Popsicle
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Apache/AH-64/Attack Helicopter
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macgun yessir

I'm with ya.
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What does "he received an email adressing he/she/They" actually mean ..

Like..it said as an example "They said no to this." (When ordinarily it would say "He said no to this." Right?

Bur then the sender is gettung or worked up in behalf of the 'they' person, and not him/herself, right?

Is this what you mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79698561


No, the They was the sender, it replied with He/She/They which caused him to question how many people were reading the email.
 Quoting: Daniel's Window


You'll have to excuse me. Im not trying to be difficult, just trying to get a handle on it exactly.

So, the reply to your step son..was the exact wording "He/She/They" written? But in what context?

How did the sender refer to himself in that way? In his sign off?

Like:

"Yours sincerely,
He/She/They" ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79698561


I do believe it was:

To Whom it may concern
He/She/They

And then just a signature at the bottom. That's what caused him to question how many people were on the email, what THEY meant.
 Quoting: Daniel's Window


Ok. Ill take your word for it, but for the life of me I just still cant see the context..if, for example, you're male..I just cant see in what situation in an email you would send that you'd actually ever have to refer to yourself as 'he'.

Im not getting the part where "To whom it may concern
He/She/They " means.

Forget the 'they' then. Still can't see what "To whom it may concern he " means either.

Sorry i may just be misreading. Its do i ng my head in.
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Waiting for the day when the company I work for makes us state our pronouns, pretty sure it isn't that far off, there have been a lot of stupid "training" courses for diversity and respect in the workplace, understanding white privilege, etc. Word is these are going to become mandatory soon. All this when the business and the entire industry is just hanging on after 18 months of shut downs and restrictions. You can't make this shit up. I am on the hiring board and we are supposed to give preference to "minorities". We used to get hundreds of applications just a few years ago. Now we are lucky to get 10 and most of them are white. And if we hire only whites in this next group we will get reprimanded for not meeting diversity quotas. The day they ask me to identify my pronouns is the day I tell them it's none of anyone's business how I feel about my genitals, I come to work and earn a living, not discuss my feelings with people I don't care to know outside the workplace. Coming up on retirement so I don't care if they terminate me early.
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No, the They was the sender, it replied with He/She/They which caused him to question how many people were reading the email.
 Quoting: Daniel's Window


You'll have to excuse me. Im not trying to be difficult, just trying to get a handle on it exactly.

So, the reply to your step son..was the exact wording "He/She/They" written? But in what context?

How did the sender refer to himself in that way? In his sign off?

Like:

"Yours sincerely,
He/She/They" ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79698561


I do believe it was:

To Whom it may concern
He/She/They

And then just a signature at the bottom. That's what caused him to question how many people were on the email, what THEY meant.
 Quoting: Daniel's Window


Ok. Ill take your word for it, but for the life of me I just still cant see the context..if, for example, you're male..I just cant see in what situation in an email you would send that you'd actually ever have to refer to yourself as 'he'.

Im not getting the part where "To whom it may concern
He/She/They " means.

Forget the 'they' then. Still can't see what "To whom it may concern he " means either.

Sorry i may just be misreading. Its do i ng my head in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79698561


Lmao, read the edit I added to the last response.
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Waiting for the day when the company I work for makes us state our pronouns, pretty sure it isn't that far off, there have been a lot of stupid "training" courses for diversity and respect in the workplace, understanding white privilege, etc. Word is these are going to become mandatory soon. All this when the business and the entire industry is just hanging on after 18 months of shut downs and restrictions. You can't make this shit up. I am on the hiring board and we are supposed to give preference to "minorities". We used to get hundreds of applications just a few years ago. Now we are lucky to get 10 and most of them are white. And if we hire only whites in this next group we will get reprimanded for not meeting diversity quotas. The day they ask me to identify my pronouns is the day I tell them it's none of anyone's business how I feel about my genitals, I come to work and earn a living, not discuss my feelings with people I don't care to know outside the workplace. Coming up on retirement so I don't care if they terminate me early.
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Didn't plan on a pine peeps, got some shiite to do, back a bit later.

Peace to All, except the "Theys", they can fuck off properly.
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I am toaster/droid/it
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I am a Synthetic but I prefer the term "Artificial Person" myself. I answer to "Bishop", "Synthetic" and "Hey man". Bite my shiny metal ass.
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HR is mostly made up of snotty women and jealous soft limp wristed beta males who haven't done a hard days work in their life and went to university where they were brainwashed into this pronoun garbage. Now they are implementing this Marxist garbage mainly on blue collar working class guys who were never indoctrinated with this crap. They are now weeding out certain groups of people they don't like such as those who never went to university or who are older and went before the indoctrination was in full swing, conservatives, heterosexual alpha males and white people with self respect that won't bow down and grovel and apologise enough for being born white. In other words your son was set up to fail their little nasty unfair test because he is male and probably straight and they don't like that because they are Marxist bigots. It's not fair to expect him to know their Marxist speak when he has never been indoctrinated with it and they damn well know it.
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World peace is the only thing that can save us. Real peace. Not forced down the peoples throats with guns and prisons. Naw it’ll never happen.
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HR is mostly made up of snotty women and jealous soft limp wristed beta males who haven't done a hard days work in their life and went to university where they were brainwashed into this pronoun garbage. Now they are implementing this Marxist garbage mainly on blue collar working class guys who were never indoctrinated with this crap. They are now weeding out certain groups of people they don't like such as those who never went to university or who are older and went before the indoctrination was in full swing, conservatives, heterosexual alpha males and white people with self respect that won't bow down and grovel and apologise enough for being born white. In other words your son was set up to fail their little nasty unfair test because he is male and probably straight and they don't like that because they are Marxist bigots. It's not fair to expect him to know their Marxist speak when he has never been indoctrinated with it and they damn well know it.
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Yep. The problem with that is that once you weed out the people that actually know how to do the job, have experience and bring in revenue, these companies are going to be empty shells with no viable product or service to sell. I wonder how many of those HR twats will still have a job when the company goes under due to lack of talent on the front lines, the people that actually work. I already see it at my workplace. In the past two years I have seen almost all of the senior staff, most of them worked for the company for 20 years or more have left. Now we can't even fill supervisor positions with employees that know their shit and know how the business works, we are having to bring in recent hires that know less than the staff they are supervising. I am counting down the months to retirement.
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HR is mostly made up of snotty women and jealous soft limp wristed beta males who haven't done a hard days work in their life and went to university where they were brainwashed into this pronoun garbage. Now they are implementing this Marxist garbage mainly on blue collar working class guys who were never indoctrinated with this crap. They are now weeding out certain groups of people they don't like such as those who never went to university or who are older and went before the indoctrination was in full swing, conservatives, heterosexual alpha males and white people with self respect that won't bow down and grovel and apologise enough for being born white. In other words your son was set up to fail their little nasty unfair test because he is male and probably straight and they don't like that because they are Marxist bigots. It's not fair to expect him to know their Marxist speak when he has never been indoctrinated with it and they damn well know it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80712948


Yep. The problem with that is that once you weed out the people that actually know how to do the job, have experience and bring in revenue, these companies are going to be empty shells with no viable product or service to sell. I wonder how many of those HR twats will still have a job when the company goes under due to lack of talent on the front lines, the people that actually work. I already see it at my workplace. In the past two years I have seen almost all of the senior staff, most of them worked for the company for 20 years or more have left. Now we can't even fill supervisor positions with employees that know their shit and know how the business works, we are having to bring in recent hires that know less than the staff they are supervising. I am counting down the months to retirement.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


This seems to be all by design to hobble our economy with regulatory and ideological nonsense so China kicks our ass because they don't have to worry about things such as diversity training nor pronouns and can just get on with doing actual business and hiring based on merit not what pronouns you use.
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1. Company chose to back They and attack son for asking a question.

2. There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.

3. Time for son to dust off his resume to get ahead of what the company has planned for him. He is now a marked man.

4. Word will spread like wildfire that They was able to get someone busted on and almost fired.

5. They will now be empowered to go scorched earth on any coworker that looks at them cross-eyed. Work environment just got a whole lot worse for everyone that is not They.

6. Would not want to work for that company or any others that treated people that way.
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He should demand to addressed as super straight and threaten to sue if they don`t.
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Identify as King and prefer that to be used when addressing you. Throw a massive fit about bigotry and racism when challenged. Insist everyone at work address you as King. Go to the same boss that stood with it/they/wiffleball and raise hell, making sure it addresses you as King the entire time, or go up the chain. So on and so forth...

Stupid, meet ludicrous.
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Stop using pronouns when responding to these people.

I work with college staff often, so I've been doing this for over a year - I just repeat the person's name every time I refer to them. It's redundant & probably annoying. Oh well.

After all, pronouns are shortcuts. Don't use them.
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What is so difficult about referring to someone in the manner in which they prefer? Seems like something that really shouldn't get you all riled up.
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“They” has just created a hostile work environment. Time for a lawsuit.
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