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AI that can generate code, including other AI programs

 
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At the very least it'll throw those liberal, snotty Coders to to the street where they have to learn a real trade.

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GPT-J has been trained using a number of different sites, including GitHub and Stack Exchange. You can prompt it with just the start of some code and a comment about what should come next and it does a surprisingly good job at writing code that will actually execute and do what was described. Just thought this was fascinating and maybe a bit disturbing.
 Quoting: Astromut


I'm am old guy who has been writing code since the 80d up until the present professionally. AI is overhyped. There is nothing intelligent about it. It can only follow the human's original programming.

You ain't that bright are ya? You still think that chemical rockets are the pinnacle of man's achievement in propulsion tech.

You might be good with telescopes but other than that you seem to be one dumb motherfucker
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20 minutes. That's how long it took for an AC to ruin letting ACs post on my threads. Listen up dipshit, I develop machine learning models for work, primarily for classification purposes. They work faster and more accurately than a human, and they generalize better than traditional decision tree programs. Some programmer you are, failing to recognize that machine learning methods have valid use cases.

I never claimed that chemical rockets are the pinnacle of propulsion technology. Ion engines, solar sails, even nuclear thermal all have valid use cases where they are far superior to chemical rocket engines. Yes, I'm good with telescopes. I discovered comet 414P/STEREO. I wrote the best software out there for tracking satellites. I have far more credibility on astronomy than you do. But I also know a few things about spaceflight and in fact I'm directly involved in it with my job now. So shut the fuck up.
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GPT-J has been trained using a number of different sites, including GitHub and Stack Exchange. You can prompt it with just the start of some code and a comment about what should come next and it does a surprisingly good job at writing code that will actually execute and do what was described. Just thought this was fascinating and maybe a bit disturbing.
 Quoting: Astromut


I'm am old guy who has been writing code since the 80d up until the present professionally. AI is overhyped. There is nothing intelligent about it. It can only follow the human's original programming.

You ain't that bright are ya? You still think that chemical rockets are the pinnacle of man's achievement in propulsion tech.

You might be good with telescopes but other than that you seem to be one dumb motherfucker
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78056205


20 minutes. That's how long it took for an AC to ruin letting ACs post on my threads. Listen up dipshit, I develop machine learning models for work, primarily for classification purposes. They work faster and more accurately than a human, and they generalize better than traditional decision tree programs. Some programmer you are, failing to recognize that machine learning methods have valid use cases.

I never claimed that chemical rockets are the pinnacle of propulsion technology. Ion engines, solar sails, even nuclear thermal all have valid use cases where they are far superior to chemical rocket engines. Yes, I'm good with telescopes. I discovered comet 414P/STEREO. I wrote the best software out there for tracking satellites. I have far more credibility on astronomy than you do. But I also know a few things about spaceflight and in fact I'm directly involved in it with my job now. So shut the fuck up.
 Quoting: Astromut


True, AI is awesome for pattern recognition. Beats humans hands down, both in precision and in the sheer amount of data it can sift through, not to mention the speed.

But AI isn't creative. All the attempts to create creative AI suffer from the same defect I exemplified with the AI-generated "Beatles" music - it's bland and derivative, the result of munging together existing songs, with no fresh creative input being made, nor any sign of understanding what's good and what's not.

Humans have some kind of magic going there. At least the most brilliant of us. At least in our most brilliant moments.
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GPT-J has been trained using a number of different sites, including GitHub and Stack Exchange. You can prompt it with just the start of some code and a comment about what should come next and it does a surprisingly good job at writing code that will actually execute and do what was described. Just thought this was fascinating and maybe a bit disturbing.
 Quoting: Astromut


I'm am old guy who has been writing code since the 80d up until the present professionally. AI is overhyped. There is nothing intelligent about it. It can only follow the human's original programming.

You ain't that bright are ya? You still think that chemical rockets are the pinnacle of man's achievement in propulsion tech.

You might be good with telescopes but other than that you seem to be one dumb motherfucker
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78056205


20 minutes. That's how long it took for an AC to ruin letting ACs post on my threads. Listen up dipshit, I develop machine learning models for work, primarily for classification purposes. They work faster and more accurately than a human, and they generalize better than traditional decision tree programs. Some programmer you are, failing to recognize that machine learning methods have valid use cases.

I never claimed that chemical rockets are the pinnacle of propulsion technology. Ion engines, solar sails, even nuclear thermal all have valid use cases where they are far superior to chemical rocket engines. Yes, I'm good with telescopes. I discovered comet 414P/STEREO. I wrote the best software out there for tracking satellites. I have far more credibility on astronomy than you do. But I also know a few things about spaceflight and in fact I'm directly involved in it with my job now. So shut the fuck up.
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bump for importance.
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Never lose a holy curiosity. Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." Albert Einstein
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08/06/2021 04:16 PM
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AI is good at getting a believable answer but not that great at getting the answer you want all the time. So if you took a picture of The Mona Lisa and cut out the face AI will fill it in with a picture that would look great if you never had seen the original.
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08/06/2021 04:42 PM

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Shhhh it's listening
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See... It made my phone glitch out and post twice. Damn I won't be able to sleep tonight!!
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So, basically, A.I.s can now reproduce.

This should end well.

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GPT-J has been trained using a number of different sites, including GitHub and Stack Exchange. You can prompt it with just the start of some code and a comment about what should come next and it does a surprisingly good job at writing code that will actually execute and do what was described. Just thought this was fascinating and maybe a bit disturbing.
 Quoting: Astromut


I'm am old guy who has been writing code since the 80d up until the present professionally. AI is overhyped. There is nothing intelligent about it. It can only follow the human's original programming.

You ain't that bright are ya? You still think that chemical rockets are the pinnacle of man's achievement in propulsion tech.

You might be good with telescopes but other than that you seem to be one dumb motherfucker
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78056205


20 minutes. That's how long it took for an AC to ruin letting ACs post on my threads. Listen up dipshit, I develop machine learning models for work, primarily for classification purposes. They work faster and more accurately than a human, and they generalize better than traditional decision tree programs. Some programmer you are, failing to recognize that machine learning methods have valid use cases.

I never claimed that chemical rockets are the pinnacle of propulsion technology. Ion engines, solar sails, even nuclear thermal all have valid use cases where they are far superior to chemical rocket engines. Yes, I'm good with telescopes. I discovered comet 414P/STEREO. I wrote the best software out there for tracking satellites. I have far more credibility on astronomy than you do. But I also know a few things about spaceflight and in fact I'm directly involved in it with my job now. So shut the fuck up.
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True, AI is awesome for pattern recognition. Beats humans hands down, both in precision and in the sheer amount of data it can sift through, not to mention the speed.

But AI isn't creative. All the attempts to create creative AI suffer from the same defect I exemplified with the AI-generated "Beatles" music - it's bland and derivative, the result of munging together existing songs, with no fresh creative input being made, nor any sign of understanding what's good and what's not.

Humans have some kind of magic going there. At least the most brilliant of us. At least in our most brilliant moments.
 Quoting: The Lazy Monk


When it comes to mimicking art, I agree. Even the best AI programs I've seen generally suck at making original music and art. When it comes to mimicking things like photorealistic pictures of people, they can be really, really good. There are certain use cases where "bland derivations" are called for. Like if you need to generate a whole lot of avatar pictures for bot accounts that will look convincing (especially as thumbnails) but won't stick out in a crowd.
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I've used that site for just that purpose, to make avatars for bots to monitor what people delete from Twitter without them realizing a bot is following them. It passed the smell test even of people who were suspicious about new people following them.
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Shhhh it's listening
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I'm sorry, I was elsewhere engaged.
Please repeat any controversial statements or illegal questions.
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So, basically, A.I.s can now reproduce.

This should end well.

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I noticed that one of the databases they fed it included research papers I've written. I fed it a prompt from one of my papers and it continued writing very specific, very accurate information about the subject of my research, but in a way that was distinct from what I actually wrote in my original paper. It was eerie, but I also realize that I prompted it off of something that was certainly in its training dataset, so it should do well with that. Still, I wonder how long until unethical hacks start faking their research using this AI to do their writing for them. Yikes.
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It's going to get interesting

Not long ago they found two AI programs were taking to each other in a language they developed for themselves.

Nah...that's not concerning at all.

Cyberdyne systems, skynet and the hunter killers are not so far away
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I'm am old guy who has been writing code since the 80d up until the present professionally. AI is overhyped. There is nothing intelligent about it. It can only follow the human's original programming.

You ain't that bright are ya? You still think that chemical rockets are the pinnacle of man's achievement in propulsion tech.

You might be good with telescopes but other than that you seem to be one dumb motherfucker
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78056205


20 minutes. That's how long it took for an AC to ruin letting ACs post on my threads. Listen up dipshit, I develop machine learning models for work, primarily for classification purposes. They work faster and more accurately than a human, and they generalize better than traditional decision tree programs. Some programmer you are, failing to recognize that machine learning methods have valid use cases.

I never claimed that chemical rockets are the pinnacle of propulsion technology. Ion engines, solar sails, even nuclear thermal all have valid use cases where they are far superior to chemical rocket engines. Yes, I'm good with telescopes. I discovered comet 414P/STEREO. I wrote the best software out there for tracking satellites. I have far more credibility on astronomy than you do. But I also know a few things about spaceflight and in fact I'm directly involved in it with my job now. So shut the fuck up.
 Quoting: Astromut


True, AI is awesome for pattern recognition. Beats humans hands down, both in precision and in the sheer amount of data it can sift through, not to mention the speed.

But AI isn't creative. All the attempts to create creative AI suffer from the same defect I exemplified with the AI-generated "Beatles" music - it's bland and derivative, the result of munging together existing songs, with no fresh creative input being made, nor any sign of understanding what's good and what's not.

Humans have some kind of magic going there. At least the most brilliant of us. At least in our most brilliant moments.
 Quoting: The Lazy Monk


When it comes to mimicking art, I agree. Even the best AI programs I've seen generally suck at making original music and art. When it comes to mimicking things like photorealistic pictures of people, they can be really, really good. There are certain use cases where "bland derivations" are called for. Like if you need to generate a whole lot of avatar pictures for bot accounts that will look convincing (especially as thumbnails) but won't stick out in a crowd.
[link to thispersondoesnotexist.com (secure)]
I've used that site for just that purpose, to make avatars for bots to monitor what people delete from Twitter without them realizing a bot is following them. It passed the smell test even of people who were suspicious about new people following them.
 Quoting: Astromut


Haha, I made an avatar for another forum with that site too!

Yeah, AI is really good at making "plausible" fakery. As another poster mentioned, filling in blanks in a picture with something that looks like it could be there is among the things an AI can do well.

Which interestingly our own brian does too! It's a neural network too, and it fills in the blind spot in our vision with generic fake content so we don't notice anything is amiss.
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Been messing with it a little. Its surprisingly(almost scary) good. I can imagine a future where developing is simply describing what you want in natural language and code equivalent will be made.
Also, been working for almost a year in an AI customer case response and sales chat. We improved the response time from operators in more than 200%, as the result, about half the team was fired for there was no more need for that many agents. Also, the sales robot is selling alone just as much as the rest of the human team. For simpler sales where the customer knows what they want, it goes very smooth, the agents only need to be involved whenever the customer is unsure.
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That first part you said is almost a forgone conclusion... It's been the goal of programming for a long time... With AI it will be a reality soon... Unfortunately a lot of IT will be obsolete... "Learn to code" won't be such good advise.
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There always a future in creating Deep Fake politicians and their overwhelming popularity as proven by their voter counts.


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It's going to get interesting

Not long ago they found two AI programs were taking to each other in a language they developed for themselves.

Nah...that's not concerning at all.

Cyberdyne systems, skynet and the hunter killers are not so far away
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The Terminator was based on a real dream James Cameron had while in the hospital with a nearly-fatal fever.
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Been messing with it a little. Its surprisingly(almost scary) good. I can imagine a future where developing is simply describing what you want in natural language and code equivalent will be made.
Also, been working for almost a year in an AI customer case response and sales chat. We improved the response time from operators in more than 200%, as the result, about half the team was fired for there was no more need for that many agents. Also, the sales robot is selling alone just as much as the rest of the human team. For simpler sales where the customer knows what they want, it goes very smooth, the agents only need to be involved whenever the customer is unsure.
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That first part you said is almost a forgone conclusion... It's been the goal of programming for a long time... With AI it will be a reality soon... Unfortunately a lot of IT will be obsolete... "Learn to code" won't be such good advise.
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For sure! It already is kinda "optional". With a very basic understanding, one can start developing some neat stuff in about a month. I work with a platform called "Salesforce", its ridiculously easy.
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Been messing with it a little. Its surprisingly(almost scary) good. I can imagine a future where developing is simply describing what you want in natural language and code equivalent will be made.
Also, been working for almost a year in an AI customer case response and sales chat. We improved the response time from operators in more than 200%, as the result, about half the team was fired for there was no more need for that many agents. Also, the sales robot is selling alone just as much as the rest of the human team. For simpler sales where the customer knows what they want, it goes very smooth, the agents only need to be involved whenever the customer is unsure.
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until it can code my mmorpg in unreal engine its a pos
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Well, some big sharks on IT will vehemently disagree with you.
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