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Conundrum: 3 of 5 of my clients are demanding my team be jabbed! Go bankrupt or comply!

 
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I don't let others dictate my death!
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These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well.

Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working.

I spoke with a competitor this morning who's in the same industry and she has heard rumors of this, but not received notice. She is jabbed, but most of her staff isn't.

We are physically in our client's retailer's locations. Zoom is no longer an option. No testing, vax or nothing.

No more tip toeing around it, no religious exemptions, no medical exemptions, as it is universal and non-discriminatory. We really have no constitutional, common or legislated law to get us out of this. Jacobson vs. Missouri sealed that fate (small pox vax in 1905) link [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)]

I am now faced with losing my business or potentially losing my life, laying people off and filing bankruptcy or taking the risk that this really is the mark of the beast and ultimately losing forever. This entire situation is almost perfectly inline with the biblical description of the mark.

There are no absolutes known with the vax and that makes it tougher. I have had 3 friends that we suspect died related to the vax and several others vaxxed with no ill effects.

I once thought that owning the joint would keep me and those I care about (my co-workers) out of harms way. I was wrong.

We must remember one thing. When a man has nothing left to lose, he loses it. Materially, I am about to lose everything. Is my honor and principle really worth losing everything I have worked 16 hours a day for for 30+ years?
 Quoting: Stumpknocker


Yes, it is.

Then again this isn't Losing anything really.

You built it once you can build it again. Especially if you get out strategically at the right time.

Everyone thinks about all this with the reference frame of what they have to lose as this ramps up...

That's the sucker thinking they want you to have!

You need to be thinking about positioning yourself for what comes AFTER all this.

Can we really allow all this to stand?

Are you really ok with living in the future they're building?



The Mayor of NYC is on TV today saying we don't want to separate families...

You're not stupid, you know that's exactly what they want!

Do you sell out your morals for a few more months, at best a couple years, of success and status?

Or is it time to start thinking the unthinkable?

I think a lot of us have held on this long and let things go this far because the idea of the nation we love failing is painful.

It feels like we FAILED.

We didn't fail the system, it has failed us.

This isn't our fault but it is our mess to clean up.

Stay strong my man
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These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well.

Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working.

I spoke with a competitor this morning who's in the same industry and she has heard rumors of this, but not received notice. She is jabbed, but most of her staff isn't.

We are physically in our client's retailer's locations. Zoom is no longer an option. No testing, vax or nothing.

No more tip toeing around it, no religious exemptions, no medical exemptions, as it is universal and non-discriminatory. We really have no constitutional, common or legislated law to get us out of this. Jacobson vs. Missouri sealed that fate (small pox vax in 1905) link [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)]

I am now faced with losing my business or potentially losing my life, laying people off and filing bankruptcy or taking the risk that this really is the mark of the beast and ultimately losing forever. This entire situation is almost perfectly inline with the biblical description of the mark.

There are no absolutes known with the vax and that makes it tougher. I have had 3 friends that we suspect died related to the vax and several others vaxxed with no ill effects.

I once thought that owning the joint would keep me and those I care about (my co-workers) out of harms way. I was wrong.

We must remember one thing. When a man has nothing left to lose, he loses it. Materially, I am about to lose everything. Is my honor and principle really worth losing everything I have worked 16 hours a day for for 30+ years?
 Quoting: Stumpknocker


Whats your business maybe there is a way to start transfering it to another avenue...the fact your running a business is good, be confident if something happens youl get back to where u are in a different field running your own business....When this all started i was in the worst possible business to be in, we made it out even better than before, as well one of my hobbies i like , i saw that industry booming so i opened a gun shop...killing it there now to...Generally business is business, you know how to run one, find specialst in a feild and open that one and just run the company, about a few years later youll know all about that one as well.....However Im rooting for your business right now i hope all goes well.
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Re: Conundrum: 3 of 5 of my clients are demanding my team be jabbed! Go bankrupt or comply!
If you end up struggling clotshot complications your medical expenses and lost income would impose a substantial financial burden upon you, your loved ones and your employees. It could also handicap you the rest of your life as long as the complications didn't make you dead.

Don't take jab and short term end up sleeping in a cardboard box under an overpass.

Lots of people have been jabbed. It's a fact many have been maimed and some have died from it.

Cardboard box sounds scary but at least you'd have a chance to rebuild and move on with your life without having your DNA reprogrammed to do God only knows what.

You take a chance either way.

I leave it to you.
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The fact that employers and clients can demand you take medical treatment that you don’t want as a condition of earning a living is insane and we need to put a stop to this shit.

What if your employer or client demanded that you be sterilized as a condition of keeping your income? How about if they demanded weight loss surgery? Or a lobotomy? Or an abortion? Or a sex change?

Oh, some of those demands are against the law? Well, being able to be fired for refusing any type of medical service should be against the damned law.
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Re: Conundrum: 3 of 5 of my clients are demanding my team be jabbed! Go bankrupt or comply!
These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well.

Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working.

I spoke with a competitor this morning who's in the same industry and she has heard rumors of this, but not received notice. She is jabbed, but most of her staff isn't.

We are physically in our client's retailer's locations. Zoom is no longer an option. No testing, vax or nothing.

No more tip toeing around it, no religious exemptions, no medical exemptions, as it is universal and non-discriminatory. We really have no constitutional, common or legislated law to get us out of this. Jacobson vs. Missouri sealed that fate (small pox vax in 1905) link [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)]

I am now faced with losing my business or potentially losing my life, laying people off and filing bankruptcy or taking the risk that this really is the mark of the beast and ultimately losing forever. This entire situation is almost perfectly inline with the biblical description of the mark.

There are no absolutes known with the vax and that makes it tougher. I have had 3 friends that we suspect died related to the vax and several others vaxxed with no ill effects.

I once thought that owning the joint would keep me and those I care about (my co-workers) out of harms way. I was wrong.

We must remember one thing. When a man has nothing left to lose, he loses it. Materially, I am about to lose everything. Is my honor and principle really worth losing everything I have worked 16 hours a day for for 30+ years?
 Quoting: Stumpknocker




The law states that you cannot mandate your employees take an experimental drug...nor can any business mandate that their employees take an experimental drug or any government entity. The sameaw that gives the FDA the authorization to approve used of an experimental drug, also prevent requiring or mandating someone to take it. It also requires the distribution of the drug be prefaced before administratoring with a full list of all possible side effects, an up to date status of those that have already taken the experimental drug, and provide a list of all other treatments and treatment option available for whatever the drug is treating.

[link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)]
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The drug companies are safe....governments are safe.
Not so for businesses.

There are 2 personal injury law firms taking clients for class-action suites to be filed against businesses who demand anyone take this shot while under EUA.

This is why even the NYC mayor can only ask the local businesses comply.

They will be the fall guys. The Lawyers are circling.
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Whatever your business is OP, develop incentives for your clients to stay with you. Undercut the competition so much that they would be stupid not to deal with you. Sure, your profits would be less to start with, but if you are successful with this strategy, word will get around that you're the best deal in town. Think outside the box.
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These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well.

Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working.

I spoke with a competitor this morning who's in the same industry and she has heard rumors of this, but not received notice. She is jabbed, but most of her staff isn't.

We are physically in our client's retailer's locations. Zoom is no longer an option. No testing, vax or nothing.

No more tip toeing around it, no religious exemptions, no medical exemptions, as it is universal and non-discriminatory. We really have no constitutional, common or legislated law to get us out of this. Jacobson vs. Missouri sealed that fate (small pox vax in 1905) link [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)]

I am now faced with losing my business or potentially losing my life, laying people off and filing bankruptcy or taking the risk that this really is the mark of the beast and ultimately losing forever. This entire situation is almost perfectly inline with the biblical description of the mark.

There are no absolutes known with the vax and that makes it tougher. I have had 3 friends that we suspect died related to the vax and several others vaxxed with no ill effects.

I once thought that owning the joint would keep me and those I care about (my co-workers) out of harms way. I was wrong.

We must remember one thing. When a man has nothing left to lose, he loses it. Materially, I am about to lose everything. Is my honor and principle really worth losing everything I have worked 16 hours a day for for 30+ years?
 Quoting: Stumpknocker


Whats your business maybe there is a way to start transfering it to another avenue...the fact your running a business is good, be confident if something happens youl get back to where u are in a different field running your own business....When this all started i was in the worst possible business to be in, we made it out even better than before, as well one of my hobbies i like , i saw that industry booming so i opened a gun shop...killing it there now to...Generally business is business, you know how to run one, find specialst in a feild and open that one and just run the company, about a few years later youll know all about that one as well.....However Im rooting for your business right now i hope all goes well.
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Excellent points. Your skill in running a business is more important than the actual business itself. Something strange about how the universe works, when you walk a path true to yourself amazing, unexpected opportunities arise.
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Re: Conundrum: 3 of 5 of my clients are demanding my team be jabbed! Go bankrupt or comply!
What sort of business are you in?
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Retail operational and profitability consulting, legal compliance and a few other things.

I will not say the industry as my anonymity could be in jeopardy at that point.
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Time to get an attorney involved. If you are one, seek outside counsel.
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No attorney is going to take his case, he has no standing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77326810


If he's doing real business, he already has an attorney he should be consulting with.
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we gotta hang together or we will surely hang separately.

Only took 3% of populace in 1770s that were dedicated to fighting for freedom.

We have WAY more than that as of now.
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But our government is a lot more dangerous than the Brit colonial government ever thought of being.
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fight dirty.

bait clients into comitting other actionable offences.

Team up with other businessmen to challenge those laws


Sue for stalking whoever encouraged your clients to make this reqt


Since you are in tge same building ask for vax status of executives of client companies

If you win using my advixe you must go all-in to help others
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proove covid is real and not just plain old flu

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What are you going to do when everyone is vxd and it still spreads?
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This is the great reset or build back better ,get jabbed or go bankrupt.America will be destroyed if this happens.
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if you were replaceable

they would have already replaced you.

you could tell them
that as long as they make vax compulsory
you will be unable to service their account.
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ask yourself, do you want to live or die?


bankruptcy looks a heck of a lot better than ADE
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That is dumb advice. Get the VAX. Dumb fuckers.
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Truthfully it won't really matter for much longer.

If your clients are all vaxxed, along with their employees, they're living on borrowed time.

No one can say for sure, but I'd estimate 6-12 months before ADE becomes a huge problem for a large percentage of the vaxxed.

ADE is a slow progression of the body reducing the amount of naturally occurring neutralizing antibodies, which means as their numbers drop month after month, eventually a common cold will kill them.

So even if you retained them as clients, they'll be dead or so badly injured in 6-12 months, their business won't be around anyways.
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Oh stfu you ignorant parrot. A month ago you didn’t even know what ADE was. Tell us, genius, on what do you base your 6-12 month estimate.
What is your scientific/medical background?

This site is becoming dumb as shit.
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And you still don’t know what a vaccine is.
Hint; it’s NOT what politicians, media and big pharmaceuticals are forcing people into right now.
That stuff is experimental gene therapy and it’s killing and hurting a lot of naive people.
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These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well.

Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working.

I spoke with a competitor this morning who's in the same industry and she has heard rumors of this, but not received notice. She is jabbed, but most of her staff isn't.

We are physically in our client's retailer's locations. Zoom is no longer an option. No testing, vax or nothing.

No more tip toeing around it, no religious exemptions, no medical exemptions, as it is universal and non-discriminatory. We really have no constitutional, common or legislated law to get us out of this. Jacobson vs. Missouri sealed that fate (small pox vax in 1905) link [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)]

I am now faced with losing my business or potentially losing my life, laying people off and filing bankruptcy or taking the risk that this really is the mark of the beast and ultimately losing forever. This entire situation is almost perfectly inline with the biblical description of the mark.

There are no absolutes known with the vax and that makes it tougher. I have had 3 friends that we suspect died related to the vax and several others vaxxed with no ill effects.

I once thought that owning the joint would keep me and those I care about (my co-workers) out of harms way. I was wrong.

We must remember one thing. When a man has nothing left to lose, he loses it. Materially, I am about to lose everything. Is my honor and principle really worth losing everything I have worked 16 hours a day for for 30+ years?
 Quoting: Stumpknocker


Is there ANY interest in the purchase of your company? If so, do the SMART and MORALE thing and sell.
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"Honor and principle"?

Jesus you people are playing a martyr over a common medical procedure that's been practised over 100 years...
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fixed
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Send them bitchute videos of vax casualties and let them know the mice tested with mRNA all died within two equivalent human years. Then tell them you will enjoy their funerals. Keep a close eye on them as soon as a few drop send get well cards to their home offices. Be icy as fuck.
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What sort of business are you in?
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Retail operational and profitability consulting, legal compliance and a few other things.

I will not say the industry as my anonymity could be in jeopardy at that point.
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Sell you business, split the proceeds, and start a new business, remote consulting or whatever, that does not require on-site staffing.
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Is it really your business when your clients can dictate such a thing?
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Well, to play devil's advocate here....let's ASSUME the reason your clients are wanting this is to protect THEIR OWN employees.

I can see that reasoning.

But they are driven by fear, not facts.


And I honestly don't know how to counter that.

I vote with those who say Stay true to your own beliefs, and in the meantime, look for new clientele.

Oh, and TRUST GOD to provide for you.
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Is it really your business when your clients can dictate such a thing?
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Well, to play devil's advocate here....let's ASSUME the reason your clients are wanting this is to protect THEIR OWN employees.

I can see that reasoning.

But they are driven by fear, not facts.


And I honestly don't know how to counter that.

I vote with those who say Stay true to your own beliefs, and in the meantime, look for new clientele.

Oh, and TRUST GOD to provide for you.
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Let’s just assume this is all social masturbstion until the hot war begins
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Lie to them
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Get more clients, preferably ones that don't care about vax status.

Diversify / expand your services into areas that bring in a different breed of client that won't care.

Worse case scenario, liquidate / sell the business and invest in in things that will give you a Monthly Revenue Generating Income. Look towards retiring. Look into real estate. Try and get out of the rat trap.

Best thing you could probably do is speak with a lawyer, perhaps.
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These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well.

Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working.


 Quoting: Stumpknocker


People that have been jabbed can still spread it.

So, this makes no sense.
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Say your Vegan and cannot use a product that tests on animals. The liberal fucked will eat it up and understand.
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That won't wash as the animal test were stopped when they all died.
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Be thankful for your problem
Its a gift
In disguise.

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The song is dated, but the message is relevant.

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