Conundrum: 3 of 5 of my clients are demanding my team be jabbed! Go bankrupt or comply! | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80641280 United States 08/04/2021 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You could also, read the contract, this could be considered liable for breach of contract, wherein it is affecting your income and business. Expect to win that, but they will no longer do business with you. Might buy you time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 08/04/2021 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember the vaxxed can still spread covid. In fact they have a higher viral load. And if your clients are vaxxed then what are they afraid of since they believe the shot offers protection. It’s all crazy. And if you get sick and can’t work anymore your clients won’t care and will just move on to someone else. |
Deplorable NO MORE Michele B
User ID: 80544623 United States 08/04/2021 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You nutballs really think this is the mark of the beast? Trinity seriously man something needs to be done about the vaxtards here. It’s turning this forum into a laughing stock and people are taking notice. Was the polio vaccine the mark of the beast? What about the flu vaccine? What about snake bite vaccine? What makes this vaccine the mark of the beast but the others aren’t? I mean I’m getting worried for some of you people throwing away your lives and the lives of others over this nonsense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80297653 OK, smart one....what exactly IS the "nonsense?" NOT wanting to take the vax due to being FORCED to do it (or else you cannot buy/sell - which sounds an awful lot like the motb), OR wondering IF the jab IS the MOTB? Or discussing it as such, or discussing it all? OR NOT taking a vax that ISN'T a vax, but experimental gene therapy that HAS NOT been tested before being loosed on humans? Which is the nonsense? How do you know what is or isn't the nonsense? And how do you know this, but the rest of us do not??? Last Edited by DNoMo Michele B on 08/04/2021 05:53 PM |
DangerClose
User ID: 80528887 United States 08/04/2021 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you resisted untill now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80312611 you are on this site. why are you even doubting taking it? dump the client. yea bankruptcy hurts. but it is temporary. money will be worthless in the time coming anyway. My posts that can be misconstrued as "extreme" and/or "radical" are satirical. #NoHymenNoDiamond #PoppedCherryDontMarry |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 08/04/2021 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ask yourself, do you want to live or die? Quoting: beeches bankruptcy looks a heck of a lot better than ADE I agree! Perhaps this opens a new/old opportunity. We developed a learning app a few years ago and could not get much traction with it and shelved it. We tried again during COViD, but Zoom was the means we used. We had to develop new strategies for retailing in a completely digital environment. As soon as the mask mandates ended, everything flooded back into the retailer's in record numbers I have now put some folks working on a redeployment this in lieu of some of our live consulting. We do have a lot of resistance though. The mask mandates will probably be reinstated for fall and people will start working from home again. We are not going back to normal. |
Deplorable NO MORE Michele B
User ID: 80544623 United States 08/04/2021 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well. Quoting: Stumpknocker Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working. I spoke with a competitor this morning who's in the same industry and she has heard rumors of this, but not received notice. She is jabbed, but most of her staff isn't. We are physically in our client's retailer's locations. Zoom is no longer an option. No testing, vax or nothing. No more tip toeing around it, no religious exemptions, no medical exemptions, as it is universal and non-discriminatory. We really have no constitutional, common or legislated law to get us out of this. Jacobson vs. Missouri sealed that fate (small pox vax in 1905) link [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)] I am now faced with losing my business or potentially losing my life, laying people off and filing bankruptcy or taking the risk that this really is the mark of the beast and ultimately losing forever. This entire situation is almost perfectly inline with the biblical description of the mark. There are no absolutes known with the vax and that makes it tougher. I have had 3 friends that we suspect died related to the vax and several others vaxxed with no ill effects. I once thought that owning the joint would keep me and those I care about (my co-workers) out of harms way. I was wrong. We must remember one thing. When a man has nothing left to lose, he loses it. Materially, I am about to lose everything. Is my honor and principle really worth losing everything I have worked 16 hours a day for for 30+ years? You say almost perfectly in line with the mark. Which aspect of the mark is missing for you? I'm not OP (and he/she may have answered later in the thread), but I'm going to give an answer anyway. "Almost perfectly" - to me - the part that doesn't line up perfectly is the part where the MARK is in the forehead OR hand of the bearer. Don't see the jab as that, unless that's symbolism. And the Forehead means "Knowing" and the Hand means "Commerce." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74195395 United States 08/04/2021 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your forefathers fought in bloody wars to protect freedom, your fight is bankruptcy. Looks a lot better then grenade shrapnel or death of a son or daughter. It's just money. If enough people have balls none of that will matter it's time to stand for the kids! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 08/04/2021 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well. Quoting: Stumpknocker Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working. I spoke with a competitor this morning who's in the same industry and she has heard rumors of this, but not received notice. She is jabbed, but most of her staff isn't. We are physically in our client's retailer's locations. Zoom is no longer an option. No testing, vax or nothing. No more tip toeing around it, no religious exemptions, no medical exemptions, as it is universal and non-discriminatory. We really have no constitutional, common or legislated law to get us out of this. Jacobson vs. Missouri sealed that fate (small pox vax in 1905) link [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)] I am now faced with losing my business or potentially losing my life, laying people off and filing bankruptcy or taking the risk that this really is the mark of the beast and ultimately losing forever. This entire situation is almost perfectly inline with the biblical description of the mark. There are no absolutes known with the vax and that makes it tougher. I have had 3 friends that we suspect died related to the vax and several others vaxxed with no ill effects. I once thought that owning the joint would keep me and those I care about (my co-workers) out of harms way. I was wrong. We must remember one thing. When a man has nothing left to lose, he loses it. Materially, I am about to lose everything. Is my honor and principle really worth losing everything I have worked 16 hours a day for for 30+ years? Either send only vaxed members of your team, or tell the client to go suck a lemon. Main thing, is calm down. You're reacting to something that hasn't happened yet. Also, both you and your client could be liable for violating the accommodation laws under the ADA, and could get the pants sued off you both if you go the vaxed way or the highway route. Covid spread is not limited to employees, so the liability is really quite moot. I'd frankly just spine up and say this is how we roll, if your client doesn't like it, there's always another client. Either you run your business or let your client run your business. The ADA prohibits discriminatory acts. When something becomes universal and includes all classes whether protected or not, it then falls outside of the protections provided by the act. They planned this one out very well. I cannot sue my clients, absolute kiss of death. I am concerned that some of my staff may file against me, some of this can break the corporate protection and fall on me personally. I am not a lawyer, but let's just say I am very well versed in the law. Think about retiring. Sell it all. No one needs that headache. Simplify. |
FightForGod!
User ID: 80146778 United States 08/04/2021 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know you have a choice to make and what the implications will be. Will you follow man and obey him into the abyss, or will you do what is right and follow God? You know what the right thing to do is. But will you? 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, |
Mr Gray
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 08/04/2021 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Losing your life/health vs. losing your business, do you really need to ask GLP'ers for advice? Seriously? When you get a stroke, or palsy, you won't have much use of your business. In my family at least 3 of 4 vaxxed persons are experiencing limb numbness... and the fourth (my mother) isn't saying anything, but she probably doesn't feel much difference, since she already had problems due to diabetes... Quoting: Kagnimir 79749445 Old people just expect to feel like crap. No one thinks anything of it. But I did just have an older friend get a large blood clot in her lung and she is double jabbed. Had to have s surgery and is on blood thinners now. |
Bright Side
Texas Yellow Rose Colored Glasses... User ID: 79036751 United States 08/04/2021 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just get jabbed then or say you are then.. otherwise its going to be a tough road to lose all that over this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8589752 Take the mark, or lie about it... That sounds like something a devil would say. I once thought the same thing about lying up to and including securing a spot with an outfit that would waste the vax and give me the card... But then I really thought hard, prayed hard. I finally came to the conclusion that lying about it just perpetuates the problem. We have to stand on our principles and refuse the vax. If enough of us do, we might just succeed. If it's the mark, it won't matter anyway. Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone. There will be casualties. You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me. Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them. |
FightForGod!
User ID: 80146778 United States 08/04/2021 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Amen. We are all being tested now and I am not talking about Covid! 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78949681 United States 08/04/2021 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They need you bad op just say no thanks you're going to have to find someone else. Hell why do you think that businesses across the board are having trouble finding help? I had a job offer the vax wasn't required but could be mandatory later..... 100k a year gig I said nope |
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Uncle Gintel
User ID: 77733820 United States 08/04/2021 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can have a daily symptoms checkist app and by some careful legal maneuvering claim you are covid compliant for your state. Quoting: Uncle Gintel They should not need to know more than if you are covid compliant and sell them on the daily checklist. Your employees just dona daily private survey where they check boxes saying they don't feel sick and haven't been around anyone you know has covid. Do you want to do it right or not, I just did this for a company this week. They don't need jabs. Just a daily compliance app. Pick any you want. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76695796 United States 08/04/2021 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well. Quoting: Stumpknocker Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working. I spoke with a competitor this morning who's in the same industry and she has heard rumors of this, but not received notice. She is jabbed, but most of her staff isn't. We are physically in our client's retailer's locations. Zoom is no longer an option. No testing, vax or nothing. No more tip toeing around it, no religious exemptions, no medical exemptions, as it is universal and non-discriminatory. We really have no constitutional, common or legislated law to get us out of this. Jacobson vs. Missouri sealed that fate (small pox vax in 1905) link [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)] I am now faced with losing my business or potentially losing my life, laying people off and filing bankruptcy or taking the risk that this really is the mark of the beast and ultimately losing forever. This entire situation is almost perfectly inline with the biblical description of the mark. There are no absolutes known with the vax and that makes it tougher. I have had 3 friends that we suspect died related to the vax and several others vaxxed with no ill effects. I once thought that owning the joint would keep me and those I care about (my co-workers) out of harms way. I was wrong. We must remember one thing. When a man has nothing left to lose, he loses it. Materially, I am about to lose everything. Is my honor and principle really worth losing everything I have worked 16 hours a day for for 30+ years? Do YOU personally need to be vaccinated? If not, make it so that you hire workers who are vaccinated. Stipulate it in your hiring ads. Even if you, sadly, have to let some or all of your current employees go, you did not cause this, the govt did. Hire vaxxed people who want to work and already took the vaccine. I don’t know if that is an option or not, but the truth is your clients can legally choose who to do business with or not. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75443329 United States 08/04/2021 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well. Quoting: Stumpknocker Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working. I spoke with a competitor this morning who's in the same industry and she has heard rumors of this, but not received notice. She is jabbed, but most of her staff isn't. We are physically in our client's retailer's locations. Zoom is no longer an option. No testing, vax or nothing. No more tip toeing around it, no religious exemptions, no medical exemptions, as it is universal and non-discriminatory. We really have no constitutional, common or legislated law to get us out of this. Jacobson vs. Missouri sealed that fate (small pox vax in 1905) link [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)] I am now faced with losing my business or potentially losing my life, laying people off and filing bankruptcy or taking the risk that this really is the mark of the beast and ultimately losing forever. This entire situation is almost perfectly inline with the biblical description of the mark. There are no absolutes known with the vax and that makes it tougher. I have had 3 friends that we suspect died related to the vax and several others vaxxed with no ill effects. I once thought that owning the joint would keep me and those I care about (my co-workers) out of harms way. I was wrong. We must remember one thing. When a man has nothing left to lose, he loses it. Materially, I am about to lose everything. Is my honor and principle really worth losing everything I have worked 16 hours a day for for 30+ years? Significant liability because someone or several people gets sick for a few days or week with the flu, and then they’re fine? Grow a pair. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75443329 United States 08/04/2021 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well. Quoting: Stumpknocker Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working. I spoke with a competitor this morning who's in the same industry and she has heard rumors of this, but not received notice. She is jabbed, but most of her staff isn't. We are physically in our client's retailer's locations. Zoom is no longer an option. No testing, vax or nothing. No more tip toeing around it, no religious exemptions, no medical exemptions, as it is universal and non-discriminatory. We really have no constitutional, common or legislated law to get us out of this. Jacobson vs. Missouri sealed that fate (small pox vax in 1905) link [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)] I am now faced with losing my business or potentially losing my life, laying people off and filing bankruptcy or taking the risk that this really is the mark of the beast and ultimately losing forever. This entire situation is almost perfectly inline with the biblical description of the mark. There are no absolutes known with the vax and that makes it tougher. I have had 3 friends that we suspect died related to the vax and several others vaxxed with no ill effects. I once thought that owning the joint would keep me and those I care about (my co-workers) out of harms way. I was wrong. We must remember one thing. When a man has nothing left to lose, he loses it. Materially, I am about to lose everything. Is my honor and principle really worth losing everything I have worked 16 hours a day for for 30+ years? Significant liability because someone or several people gets sick for a few days or week with the flu, and then they’re fine? Grow a pair. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77440530 Romania 08/04/2021 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well. Quoting: Stumpknocker Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working. I spoke with a competitor this morning who's in the same industry and she has heard rumors of this, but not received notice. She is jabbed, but most of her staff isn't. We are physically in our client's retailer's locations. Zoom is no longer an option. No testing, vax or nothing. No more tip toeing around it, no religious exemptions, no medical exemptions, as it is universal and non-discriminatory. We really have no constitutional, common or legislated law to get us out of this. Jacobson vs. Missouri sealed that fate (small pox vax in 1905) link [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)] I am now faced with losing my business or potentially losing my life, laying people off and filing bankruptcy or taking the risk that this really is the mark of the beast and ultimately losing forever. This entire situation is almost perfectly inline with the biblical description of the mark. There are no absolutes known with the vax and that makes it tougher. I have had 3 friends that we suspect died related to the vax and several others vaxxed with no ill effects. I once thought that owning the joint would keep me and those I care about (my co-workers) out of harms way. I was wrong. We must remember one thing. When a man has nothing left to lose, he loses it. Materially, I am about to lose everything. Is my honor and principle really worth losing everything I have worked 16 hours a day for for 30+ years? “ 3 clients are 75%” ?????? Too much risk. Lose them now, they will go for a competitor anyways and create a healthy business portfolio where no one is too big to fail |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78241451 United States 08/04/2021 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well. Quoting: Stumpknocker Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working. I spoke with a competitor this morning who's in the same industry and she has heard rumors of this, but not received notice. She is jabbed, but most of her staff isn't. We are physically in our client's retailer's locations. Zoom is no longer an option. No testing, vax or nothing. No more tip toeing around it, no religious exemptions, no medical exemptions, as it is universal and non-discriminatory. We really have no constitutional, common or legislated law to get us out of this. Jacobson vs. Missouri sealed that fate (small pox vax in 1905) link [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)] I am now faced with losing my business or potentially losing my life, laying people off and filing bankruptcy or taking the risk that this really is the mark of the beast and ultimately losing forever. This entire situation is almost perfectly inline with the biblical description of the mark. There are no absolutes known with the vax and that makes it tougher. I have had 3 friends that we suspect died related to the vax and several others vaxxed with no ill effects. I once thought that owning the joint would keep me and those I care about (my co-workers) out of harms way. I was wrong. We must remember one thing. When a man has nothing left to lose, he loses it. Materially, I am about to lose everything. Is my honor and principle really worth losing everything I have worked 16 hours a day for for 30+ years? I have heard from two lawyers saying that the companies are opening themselves to liability if they make vaxes mandatory. Big Pharma got these vaxes with "no liability" clauses. So the people that are hurt by them are going to be looking for someone to sue. If the "company" demanded they get the vax to work, that opens a door to liability. THat's what I heard from two lawyers on YouTube anyway. Besides, the vaxes don't prevent the spread of Covid. This is a moral dilemma you have to face. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77995746 Canada 08/04/2021 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well. Quoting: Stumpknocker Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working. I spoke with a competitor this morning who's in the same industry and she has heard rumors of this, but not received notice. She is jabbed, but most of her staff isn't. We are physically in our client's retailer's locations. Zoom is no longer an option. No testing, vax or nothing. No more tip toeing around it, no religious exemptions, no medical exemptions, as it is universal and non-discriminatory. We really have no constitutional, common or legislated law to get us out of this. Jacobson vs. Missouri sealed that fate (small pox vax in 1905) link [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)] I am now faced with losing my business or potentially losing my life, laying people off and filing bankruptcy or taking the risk that this really is the mark of the beast and ultimately losing forever. This entire situation is almost perfectly inline with the biblical description of the mark. There are no absolutes known with the vax and that makes it tougher. I have had 3 friends that we suspect died related to the vax and several others vaxxed with no ill effects. I once thought that owning the joint would keep me and those I care about (my co-workers) out of harms way. I was wrong. We must remember one thing. When a man has nothing left to lose, he loses it. Materially, I am about to lose everything. Is my honor and principle really worth losing everything I have worked 16 hours a day for for 30+ years? You realize that “vaccines” do not stop infection or transmission, and May in fact increase spreading! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 08/04/2021 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You nutballs really think this is the mark of the beast? Trinity seriously man something needs to be done about the vaxtards here. It’s turning this forum into a laughing stock and people are taking notice. Was the polio vaccine the mark of the beast? What about the flu vaccine? What about snake bite vaccine? What makes this vaccine the mark of the beast but the others aren’t? I mean I’m getting worried for some of you people throwing away your lives and the lives of others over this nonsense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80297653 This isn’t a vaccine. And polio is still around. Just renamed. And this is a conspiracy forum. So any topic is not off limits. You’re a tard for taking experimental gene therapy. And to keep updated you will have to keep jumping through hoops. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 08/04/2021 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These 3 clients are 72% of my company's revenue and 75% of our net profit. I expect the other 2 will demand we be vaxxed as well. Quoting: Stumpknocker Significant liability for me and them if someone spreads COVID while working. I spoke with a competitor this morning who's in the same industry and she has heard rumors of this, but not received notice. She is jabbed, but most of her staff isn't. We are physically in our client's retailer's locations. Zoom is no longer an option. No testing, vax or nothing. No more tip toeing around it, no religious exemptions, no medical exemptions, as it is universal and non-discriminatory. We really have no constitutional, common or legislated law to get us out of this. Jacobson vs. Missouri sealed that fate (small pox vax in 1905) link [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)] I am now faced with losing my business or potentially losing my life, laying people off and filing bankruptcy or taking the risk that this really is the mark of the beast and ultimately losing forever. This entire situation is almost perfectly inline with the biblical description of the mark. There are no absolutes known with the vax and that makes it tougher. I have had 3 friends that we suspect died related to the vax and several others vaxxed with no ill effects. I once thought that owning the joint would keep me and those I care about (my co-workers) out of harms way. I was wrong. We must remember one thing. When a man has nothing left to lose, he loses it. Materially, I am about to lose everything. Is my honor and principle really worth losing everything I have worked 16 hours a day for for 30+ years? You realize that “vaccines” do not stop infection or transmission, and May in fact increase spreading! Israel wants the vaccinated quarantined coming into the country. |