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Waterman this is my response to you that you addressed to me, on my karma page 8/16/21.

Waterman,
If you are truly confident as to whom you claim you are then take the injection. No weapon formed against you shall prosper (Isa.54:17KJV). We walk by faith not by sight (2Cor.5:7KJV).

How easy for you to talk the talk. But never believe what you claim through any action/works. Is it your lack of faith or God's ability to protect you that you fear? David knew the danger of facing Goliath but he also knew he was the anointed one so he had no fear of the outcome.

So which is it Waterman faith or fear that motivates you. And claiming you would be putting God to a foolish test will of course be your excuse. But you always make excuses when the proof must be presented. If Jesus' used as many excuses as you do to deny a point of truth; he would never have gone to the cross.

You never fail to weasel out of an excuse for any reason and if you can't you find a way never to answer or block/banned someone if you don't like the answer to a question.

I still feel sorry for you waterman b/c you are one day going to realize you are not who you once thought you were. For knowing you have no confirmation is the only proof you would need and you cannot obtain it from even a family member or even by a bribe..lol.

My friend please stop sending me karma comments. I am not interested in your thoughts or opinions. I am sure others are but please excuse me from that list.

And please stop following me around through my karma page. I believe that is why you pay my monthly dues on the agreement that I would be allowed to block you from my threads so you would cease following me. I know bad habits are hard to overcome but I can attest over the course of many times that they most certainly can be overcome.

You were kind enough to stop addressing me personally on your threads after asking you many times. Now I ask that you might do the same on my karma page.

What I did was for the solace of my family and my lack of fear of its outcome as a believer.

I also know that it's not the mark of the beast symbol. Otherwise, God's promises to me would become void, of which you well know of those promises and there future applications.

These methods of course are the works of evil men but when has that hindered God from the continence of his plans, purpose, and will. Evil men have always through the centuries sought to hinder him but to no avail. Even the killing of his dear Son by evil men only brought about greater restitution in his plan, purpose, and will.

Therefore, as I have exclaimed beforehand many times: "All things work together for good to them that love God to them who are called according to his purpose (Rom.8:28KJV). Thus, "God has not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."

Sleep well my friend and never allow puny man to inject fear into you as a vessel of the Most high; if that be your position. For remember it is the thief that comes to steal kill, and destroy (John.10:10KJV). To steal your job, to kill your way of life, even to destroy your first beliefs in God's ability to protect as he has in past times. He has not lessened in strength or power but many have weakened in faith.
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Waterman this is my response to you that you addressed to me, on my karma page 8/16/21.

Waterman,
If you are truly confident as to whom you claim you are then take the injection. No weapon formed against you shall prosper (Isa.54:17KJV). We walk by faith not by sight (2Cor.5:7KJV).

How easy for you to talk the talk. But never believe what you claim through any action/works. Is it your lack of faith or God's ability to protect you that you fear? David knew the danger of facing Goliath but he also knew he was the anointed one so he had no fear of the outcome.

So which is it Waterman faith or fear that motivates you. And claiming you would be putting God to a foolish test will of course be your excuse. But you always make excuses when the proof must be presented. If Jesus' used as many excuses as you do to deny a point of truth; he would never have gone to the cross.

You never fail to weasel out of an excuse for any reason and if you can't you find a way never to answer or block/banned someone if you don't like the answer to a question.

I still feel sorry for you waterman b/c you are one day going to realize you are not who you once thought you were. For knowing you have no confirmation is the only proof you would need and you cannot obtain it from even a family member or even by a bribe..lol.

My friend please stop sending me karma comments. I am not interested in your thoughts or opinions. I am sure others are but please excuse me from that list.

And please stop following me around through my karma page. I believe that is why you pay my monthly dues on the agreement that I would be allowed to block you from my threads so you would cease following me. I know bad habits are hard to overcome but I can attest over the course of many times that they most certainly can be overcome.

You were kind enough to stop addressing me personally on your threads after asking you many times. Now I ask that you might do the same on my karma page.

What I did was for the solace of my family and my lack of fear of its outcome as a believer.

I also know that it's not the mark of the beast symbol. Otherwise, God's promises to me would become void, of which you well know of those promises and there future applications.

These methods of course are the works of evil men but when has that hindered God from the continence of his plans, purpose, and will. Evil men have always through the centuries sought to hinder him but to no avail. Even the killing of his dear Son by evil men only brought about greater restitution in his plan, purpose, and will.

Therefore, as I have exclaimed beforehand many times: "All things work together for good to them that love God to them who are called according to his purpose (Rom.8:28KJV). Thus, "God has not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."

Sleep well my friend and never allow puny man to inject fear into you as a vessel of the Most high; if that be your position. For remember it is the thief that comes to steal kill, and destroy (John.10:10KJV). To steal your job, to kill your way of life, even to destroy your first beliefs in God's ability to protect as he has in past times. He has not lessened in strength or power but many have weakened in faith.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


It’s funny when the wife informed me that you took the vaccine she said “ Do you still believe you are the guy?” Without hesitation I said “ I will always believe I’m the guy”. I can see my destiny in the volume of the book.

I’m impressed...you already knew what my answer would be. Booster shots are coming up next for ya. I’ll be passing on the d.n.a changing vaccine but I’m sure Gates, Faucci and Biden appreciate your encouraging of the vaccine.






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 Quoting: waterman


Waterman this is my response to you that you addressed to me, on my karma page 8/16/21.

Waterman,
If you are truly confident as to whom you claim you are then take the injection. No weapon formed against you shall prosper (Isa.54:17KJV). We walk by faith not by sight (2Cor.5:7KJV).

How easy for you to talk the talk. But never believe what you claim through any action/works. Is it your lack of faith or God's ability to protect you that you fear? David knew the danger of facing Goliath but he also knew he was the anointed one so he had no fear of the outcome.

So which is it Waterman faith or fear that motivates you. And claiming you would be putting God to a foolish test will of course be your excuse. But you always make excuses when the proof must be presented. If Jesus' used as many excuses as you do to deny a point of truth; he would never have gone to the cross.

You never fail to weasel out of an excuse for any reason and if you can't you find a way never to answer or block/banned someone if you don't like the answer to a question.

I still feel sorry for you waterman b/c you are one day going to realize you are not who you once thought you were. For knowing you have no confirmation is the only proof you would need and you cannot obtain it from even a family member or even by a bribe..lol.

My friend please stop sending me karma comments. I am not interested in your thoughts or opinions. I am sure others are but please excuse me from that list.

And please stop following me around through my karma page. I believe that is why you pay my monthly dues on the agreement that I would be allowed to block you from my threads so you would cease following me. I know bad habits are hard to overcome but I can attest over the course of many times that they most certainly can be overcome.

You were kind enough to stop addressing me personally on your threads after asking you many times. Now I ask that you might do the same on my karma page.

What I did was for the solace of my family and my lack of fear of its outcome as a believer.

I also know that it's not the mark of the beast symbol. Otherwise, God's promises to me would become void, of which you well know of those promises and there future applications.

These methods of course are the works of evil men but when has that hindered God from the continence of his plans, purpose, and will. Evil men have always through the centuries sought to hinder him but to no avail. Even the killing of his dear Son by evil men only brought about greater restitution in his plan, purpose, and will.

Therefore, as I have exclaimed beforehand many times: "All things work together for good to them that love God to them who are called according to his purpose (Rom.8:28KJV). Thus, "God has not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."

Sleep well my friend and never allow puny man to inject fear into you as a vessel of the Most high; if that be your position. For remember it is the thief that comes to steal kill, and destroy (John.10:10KJV). To steal your job, to kill your way of life, even to destroy your first beliefs in God's ability to protect as he has in past times. He has not lessened in strength or power but many have weakened in faith.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


It’s funny when the wife informed me that you took the vaccine she said “ Do you still believe you are the guy?” Without hesitation I said “ I will always believe I’m the guy”. I can see my destiny in the volume of the book.

I’m impressed...you already knew what my answer would be. Booster shots are coming up next for ya. I’ll be passing on the d.n.a changing vaccine but I’m sure Gates, Faucci and Biden appreciate your encouraging of the vaccine.






Joseph and Judah
 Quoting: waterman


Trusting in God is no defect. I am not endorsing or encouraging others to get the vaccine. I just stated the reasons why I did. My son's concerns are for the safety of his mother and at 72 I can understand that. It seems your main concern is whether you are the guy. You can believe you are the guy all you want but it doesn't make it so. Satan also believed he was also the guy but it didn't make it so.

Listen to your wife. She seems to have more sense than you..lol. Seeing the destiny of a man in the volume of the book isn't necessary pertinent to you.

You would never even have recognized that other person besides Jesus written in the volume of the book if I hadn't pointed it out to you yrs. ago. Now it's as if you not only discovered this mystery through your own means. But that in fact it was originally discerned by the grace of God by the one/man it was referring to as the other intended recipient of that verse besides Jesus.

That man written in the volume of the book besides Jesus is referred in Scripture as the man-child (Rev.12:5KJV), and that same man is also referred to as the one like the Son of man (Dan.13:7KJV), and again as another witness of that same man the overcomer/conqueror (Rev.2:26-27KJV), that hidden arrow/polished shaft (Rev.6:2KJV), (Isa.49:2KJV). And of course that same man is written in (Zech.3:1-2KJV).

These verses are speaking of one man not two different men but a certain man. Not the Man Jesus but one like him performing similar duties as his Master does. So believing something and revealing the truth of that belief through the Word are two different objectives all together.

You might want to show this post to your wife. That I might be able to defend myself from false accusations of wrong doings and that I seem to still possess a sound mind after the jab. But I doubt you would ever do that. It might expose a truth about you you wouldn't like.

That is all I have to say on the subject. I have told you these things and showed you these examples over and over. Yet you will not hear them or believe what is written in the Word so it is enough. Thank you for stop commenting on my karma page.
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Waterman this is my response to you that you addressed to me, on my karma page 8/16/21.

Waterman,
If you are truly confident as to whom you claim you are then take the injection. No weapon formed against you shall prosper (Isa.54:17KJV). We walk by faith not by sight (2Cor.5:7KJV).

How easy for you to talk the talk. But never believe what you claim through any action/works. Is it your lack of faith or God's ability to protect you that you fear? David knew the danger of facing Goliath but he also knew he was the anointed one so he had no fear of the outcome.

So which is it Waterman faith or fear that motivates you. And claiming you would be putting God to a foolish test will of course be your excuse. But you always make excuses when the proof must be presented. If Jesus' used as many excuses as you do to deny a point of truth; he would never have gone to the cross.

You never fail to weasel out of an excuse for any reason and if you can't you find a way never to answer or block/banned someone if you don't like the answer to a question.

I still feel sorry for you waterman b/c you are one day going to realize you are not who you once thought you were. For knowing you have no confirmation is the only proof you would need and you cannot obtain it from even a family member or even by a bribe..lol.

My friend please stop sending me karma comments. I am not interested in your thoughts or opinions. I am sure others are but please excuse me from that list.

And please stop following me around through my karma page. I believe that is why you pay my monthly dues on the agreement that I would be allowed to block you from my threads so you would cease following me. I know bad habits are hard to overcome but I can attest over the course of many times that they most certainly can be overcome.

You were kind enough to stop addressing me personally on your threads after asking you many times. Now I ask that you might do the same on my karma page.

What I did was for the solace of my family and my lack of fear of its outcome as a believer.

I also know that it's not the mark of the beast symbol. Otherwise, God's promises to me would become void, of which you well know of those promises and there future applications.

These methods of course are the works of evil men but when has that hindered God from the continence of his plans, purpose, and will. Evil men have always through the centuries sought to hinder him but to no avail. Even the killing of his dear Son by evil men only brought about greater restitution in his plan, purpose, and will.

Therefore, as I have exclaimed beforehand many times: "All things work together for good to them that love God to them who are called according to his purpose (Rom.8:28KJV). Thus, "God has not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."

Sleep well my friend and never allow puny man to inject fear into you as a vessel of the Most high; if that be your position. For remember it is the thief that comes to steal kill, and destroy (John.10:10KJV). To steal your job, to kill your way of life, even to destroy your first beliefs in God's ability to protect as he has in past times. He has not lessened in strength or power but many have weakened in faith.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


It’s funny when the wife informed me that you took the vaccine she said “ Do you still believe you are the guy?” Without hesitation I said “ I will always believe I’m the guy”. I can see my destiny in the volume of the book.

I’m impressed...you already knew what my answer would be. Booster shots are coming up next for ya. I’ll be passing on the d.n.a changing vaccine but I’m sure Gates, Faucci and Biden appreciate your encouraging of the vaccine.






Joseph and Judah
 Quoting: waterman


Trusting in God is no defect. I am not endorsing or encouraging others to get the vaccine. I just stated the reasons why I did. My son's concerns are for the safety of his mother and at 72 I can understand that. It seems your main concern is whether you are the guy. You can believe you are the guy all you want but it doesn't make it so. Satan also believed he was also the guy but it didn't make it so.

Listen to your wife. She seems to have more sense than you..lol. Seeing the destiny of a man in the volume of the book isn't necessary pertinent to you.

You would never even have recognized that other person besides Jesus written in the volume of the book if I hadn't pointed it out to you yrs. ago. Now it's as if you not only discovered this mystery through your own means. But that in fact it was originally discerned by the grace of God by the one/man it was referring to as the other intended recipient of that verse besides Jesus.

That man written in the volume of the book besides Jesus is referred in Scripture as the man-child (Rev.12:5KJV), and that same man is also referred to as the one like the Son of man (Dan.13:7KJV), and again as another witness of that same man the overcomer/conqueror (Rev.2:26-27KJV), that hidden arrow/polished shaft (Rev.6:2KJV), (Isa.49:2KJV). And of course that same man is written in (Zech.3:1-2KJV).

These verses are speaking of one man not two different men but a certain man. Not the Man Jesus but one like him performing similar duties as his Master does. So believing something and revealing the truth of that belief through the Word are two different objectives all together.

You might want to show this post to your wife. That I might be able to defend myself from false accusations of wrong doings and that I seem to still possess a sound mind after the jab. But I doubt you would ever do that. It might expose a truth about you you wouldn't like.

That is all I have to say on the subject. I have told you these things and showed you these examples over and over. Yet you will not hear them or believe what is written in the Word so it is enough. Thank you for stop commenting on my karma page.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


Neither your 1000 posts nor my 10,000 posts would make any difference to her (you act as if I haven’t read psalm 88...friend and lover though has put far from me...). I’ve already explained to her I will be on earth for the millennium with you finishing my commission.

You drivel on and on about how you show me everything. You are supposed to show me so I can discern how to divide the scriptures....Judah plows and Jacob breaks the clods(divides the blessings). My position is one position not both plow and clod breaker. You appear to have a problem discerning who gets what inheritance and who gets what blessing. That is because you are only Judah the plow so you can not break the clods because you aren’t Jacob the clod breaker. I’ll show ya one more time so you can see who is who...and who gets what.....here is the key:


One anointed .....................The other anointed

1. Judah.............................2 Joseph

1. 1st born.........................2nd born
2. Scepter...........................Birthright
3. Spiritual Masculine...........Spiritual Feminine
4. Earthly kingship. .............Earthly priesthood

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Waterman this is my response to you that you addressed to me, on my karma page 8/16/21.

Waterman,
If you are truly confident as to whom you claim you are then take the injection. No weapon formed against you shall prosper (Isa.54:17KJV). We walk by faith not by sight (2Cor.5:7KJV).

How easy for you to talk the talk. But never believe what you claim through any action/works. Is it your lack of faith or God's ability to protect you that you fear? David knew the danger of facing Goliath but he also knew he was the anointed one so he had no fear of the outcome.

So which is it Waterman faith or fear that motivates you. And claiming you would be putting God to a foolish test will of course be your excuse. But you always make excuses when the proof must be presented. If Jesus' used as many excuses as you do to deny a point of truth; he would never have gone to the cross.

You never fail to weasel out of an excuse for any reason and if you can't you find a way never to answer or block/banned someone if you don't like the answer to a question.

I still feel sorry for you waterman b/c you are one day going to realize you are not who you once thought you were. For knowing you have no confirmation is the only proof you would need and you cannot obtain it from even a family member or even by a bribe..lol.

My friend please stop sending me karma comments. I am not interested in your thoughts or opinions. I am sure others are but please excuse me from that list.

And please stop following me around through my karma page. I believe that is why you pay my monthly dues on the agreement that I would be allowed to block you from my threads so you would cease following me. I know bad habits are hard to overcome but I can attest over the course of many times that they most certainly can be overcome.

You were kind enough to stop addressing me personally on your threads after asking you many times. Now I ask that you might do the same on my karma page.

What I did was for the solace of my family and my lack of fear of its outcome as a believer.

I also know that it's not the mark of the beast symbol. Otherwise, God's promises to me would become void, of which you well know of those promises and there future applications.

These methods of course are the works of evil men but when has that hindered God from the continence of his plans, purpose, and will. Evil men have always through the centuries sought to hinder him but to no avail. Even the killing of his dear Son by evil men only brought about greater restitution in his plan, purpose, and will.

Therefore, as I have exclaimed beforehand many times: "All things work together for good to them that love God to them who are called according to his purpose (Rom.8:28KJV). Thus, "God has not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."

Sleep well my friend and never allow puny man to inject fear into you as a vessel of the Most high; if that be your position. For remember it is the thief that comes to steal kill, and destroy (John.10:10KJV). To steal your job, to kill your way of life, even to destroy your first beliefs in God's ability to protect as he has in past times. He has not lessened in strength or power but many have weakened in faith.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


It’s funny when the wife informed me that you took the vaccine she said “ Do you still believe you are the guy?” Without hesitation I said “ I will always believe I’m the guy”. I can see my destiny in the volume of the book.

I’m impressed...you already knew what my answer would be. Booster shots are coming up next for ya. I’ll be passing on the d.n.a changing vaccine but I’m sure Gates, Faucci and Biden appreciate your encouraging of the vaccine.






Joseph and Judah
 Quoting: waterman


Trusting in God is no defect. I am not endorsing or encouraging others to get the vaccine. I just stated the reasons why I did. My son's concerns are for the safety of his mother and at 72 I can understand that. It seems your main concern is whether you are the guy. You can believe you are the guy all you want but it doesn't make it so. Satan also believed he was also the guy but it didn't make it so.

Listen to your wife. She seems to have more sense than you..lol. Seeing the destiny of a man in the volume of the book isn't necessary pertinent to you.

You would never even have recognized that other person besides Jesus written in the volume of the book if I hadn't pointed it out to you yrs. ago. Now it's as if you not only discovered this mystery through your own means. But that in fact it was originally discerned by the grace of God by the one/man it was referring to as the other intended recipient of that verse besides Jesus.

That man written in the volume of the book besides Jesus is referred in Scripture as the man-child (Rev.12:5KJV), and that same man is also referred to as the one like the Son of man (Dan.13:7KJV), and again as another witness of that same man the overcomer/conqueror (Rev.2:26-27KJV), that hidden arrow/polished shaft (Rev.6:2KJV), (Isa.49:2KJV). And of course that same man is written in (Zech.3:1-2KJV).

These verses are speaking of one man not two different men but a certain man. Not the Man Jesus but one like him performing similar duties as his Master does. So believing something and revealing the truth of that belief through the Word are two different objectives all together.

You might want to show this post to your wife. That I might be able to defend myself from false accusations of wrong doings and that I seem to still possess a sound mind after the jab. But I doubt you would ever do that. It might expose a truth about you you wouldn't like.

That is all I have to say on the subject. I have told you these things and showed you these examples over and over. Yet you will not hear them or believe what is written in the Word so it is enough. Thank you for stop commenting on my karma page.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


Neither your 1000 posts nor my 10,000 posts would make any difference to her (you act as if I haven’t read psalm 88...friend and lover though has put far from me...). I’ve already explained to her I will be on earth for the millennium with you finishing my commission.

You drivel on and on about how you show me everything. You are supposed to show me so I can discern how to divide the scriptures....Judah plows and Jacob breaks the clods(divides the blessings). My position is one position not both plow and clod breaker. You appear to have a problem discerning who gets what inheritance and who gets what blessing. That is because you are only Judah the plow so you can not break the clods because you aren’t Jacob the clod breaker. I’ll show ya one more time so you can see who is who...and who gets what.....here is the key:


One anointed .....................The other anointed

1. Judah.............................2 Joseph

1. 1st born.........................2nd born
2. Scepter...........................Birthright
3. Spiritual Masculine...........Spiritual Feminine
4. Earthly kingship. .............Earthly priesthood
 Quoting: waterman


Your excuse for stealing others revelation is the plow story. And you steal even the character to play the role that doesn't belong to you to begin with.

And the verse you quoted about in (Psalms 88) never did apply to you but it will come to pass but not now. And will continue to apply with friend and a lover that shall come to that one later. It means nothing concerning a wife. But read the Word; don't assume to already know the meaning.

For only the prophesy can be comprehended by him to who shall already understand it meaning and how it shall one day come to pass. But the Word doesn't say anything about a wife as you are seeking to claim. Few wives are lovers and sadly few are even less than friends. Those days have not yet appeared as you believe, but for another time in the future.

Remember prophesy must follow the one spoken about not that we must follow the prophesy to discern its meaning. Prophesy is not as if one seeks its understanding to comprehend it. But as the prophesy has already revealed its meaning to the one it's applicable to.

For the event is as if it has already been lived or shown before it is manifested in that life of whom the prophesy applies. How can you see the vision if it has not first been revealed to whom it is meant to comprehend it.

My friend I have no trouble discerning the Word as you claim. Or its meaning or its failure to be comprehended through the silly traditions of man's concepts of it projected meaning. Men read into it what they want it to say but often misquote what it really says. Or how it presents itself in past, present, and future form. God is a God of motion and cannot always be restrained by the demands of mortals to stand ye still Lord God.

As I have told you beforehand in other threads ..believe as you wish but stop seeking me to believe what silly disregard you bring upon the Word of God. Or the concepts of an imagination that was never meant to be abused against the Word.
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It’s funny when the wife informed me that you took the vaccine she said “ Do you still believe you are the guy?” Without hesitation I said “ I will always believe I’m the guy”. I can see my destiny in the volume of the book.

I’m impressed...you already knew what my answer would be. Booster shots are coming up next for ya. I’ll be passing on the d.n.a changing vaccine but I’m sure Gates, Faucci and Biden appreciate your encouraging of the vaccine.






Joseph and Judah
 Quoting: waterman


Trusting in God is no defect. I am not endorsing or encouraging others to get the vaccine. I just stated the reasons why I did. My son's concerns are for the safety of his mother and at 72 I can understand that. It seems your main concern is whether you are the guy. You can believe you are the guy all you want but it doesn't make it so. Satan also believed he was also the guy but it didn't make it so.

Listen to your wife. She seems to have more sense than you..lol. Seeing the destiny of a man in the volume of the book isn't necessary pertinent to you.

You would never even have recognized that other person besides Jesus written in the volume of the book if I hadn't pointed it out to you yrs. ago. Now it's as if you not only discovered this mystery through your own means. But that in fact it was originally discerned by the grace of God by the one/man it was referring to as the other intended recipient of that verse besides Jesus.

That man written in the volume of the book besides Jesus is referred in Scripture as the man-child (Rev.12:5KJV), and that same man is also referred to as the one like the Son of man (Dan.13:7KJV), and again as another witness of that same man the overcomer/conqueror (Rev.2:26-27KJV), that hidden arrow/polished shaft (Rev.6:2KJV), (Isa.49:2KJV). And of course that same man is written in (Zech.3:1-2KJV).

These verses are speaking of one man not two different men but a certain man. Not the Man Jesus but one like him performing similar duties as his Master does. So believing something and revealing the truth of that belief through the Word are two different objectives all together.

You might want to show this post to your wife. That I might be able to defend myself from false accusations of wrong doings and that I seem to still possess a sound mind after the jab. But I doubt you would ever do that. It might expose a truth about you you wouldn't like.

That is all I have to say on the subject. I have told you these things and showed you these examples over and over. Yet you will not hear them or believe what is written in the Word so it is enough. Thank you for stop commenting on my karma page.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


Neither your 1000 posts nor my 10,000 posts would make any difference to her (you act as if I haven’t read psalm 88...friend and lover though has put far from me...). I’ve already explained to her I will be on earth for the millennium with you finishing my commission.

You drivel on and on about how you show me everything. You are supposed to show me so I can discern how to divide the scriptures....Judah plows and Jacob breaks the clods(divides the blessings). My position is one position not both plow and clod breaker. You appear to have a problem discerning who gets what inheritance and who gets what blessing. That is because you are only Judah the plow so you can not break the clods because you aren’t Jacob the clod breaker. I’ll show ya one more time so you can see who is who...and who gets what.....here is the key:


One anointed .....................The other anointed

1. Judah.............................2 Joseph

1. 1st born.........................2nd born
2. Scepter...........................Birthright
3. Spiritual Masculine...........Spiritual Feminine
4. Earthly kingship. .............Earthly priesthood
 Quoting: waterman


Your excuse for stealing others revelation is the plow story. And you steal even the character to play the role that doesn't belong to you to begin with.

And the verse you quoted about in (Psalms 88) never did apply to you but it will come to pass but not now. And will continue to apply with friend and a lover that shall come to that one later. It means nothing concerning a wife. But read the Word; don't assume to already know the meaning.

For only the prophesy can be comprehended by him to who shall already understand it meaning and how it shall one day come to pass. But the Word doesn't say anything about a wife as you are seeking to claim. Few wives are lovers and sadly few are even less than friends. Those days have not yet appeared as you believe, but for another time in the future.

Remember prophesy must follow the one spoken about not that we must follow the prophesy to discern its meaning. Prophesy is not as if one seeks its understanding to comprehend it. But as the prophesy has already revealed its meaning to the one it's applicable to.

For the event is as if it has already been lived or shown before it is manifested in that life of whom the prophesy applies. How can you see the vision if it has not first been revealed to whom it is meant to comprehend it.

My friend I have no trouble discerning the Word as you claim. Or its meaning or its failure to be comprehended through the silly traditions of man's concepts of it projected meaning. Men read into it what they want it to say but often misquote what it really says. Or how it presents itself in past, present, and future form. God is a God of motion and cannot always be restrained by the demands of mortals to stand ye still Lord God.

As I have told you beforehand in other threads ..believe as you wish but stop seeking me to believe what silly disregard you bring upon the Word of God. Or the concepts of an imagination that was never meant to be abused against the Word.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


If you were doing a single anointed paper I would have gave you credit...but it is double anointed so you had no part for the other anointed.

I’m sure lover and friend to you was the word but learn layers and the word can be speaking multi layers and not just one layer. As soon as you find one layer you go on to the next scripture. You stop layers when it is convenient for you. As soon as it shows a second anointed you stop it one layer before that...lol

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Trusting in God is no defect. I am not endorsing or encouraging others to get the vaccine. I just stated the reasons why I did. My son's concerns are for the safety of his mother and at 72 I can understand that. It seems your main concern is whether you are the guy. You can believe you are the guy all you want but it doesn't make it so. Satan also believed he was also the guy but it didn't make it so.

Listen to your wife. She seems to have more sense than you..lol. Seeing the destiny of a man in the volume of the book isn't necessary pertinent to you.

You would never even have recognized that other person besides Jesus written in the volume of the book if I hadn't pointed it out to you yrs. ago. Now it's as if you not only discovered this mystery through your own means. But that in fact it was originally discerned by the grace of God by the one/man it was referring to as the other intended recipient of that verse besides Jesus.

That man written in the volume of the book besides Jesus is referred in Scripture as the man-child (Rev.12:5KJV), and that same man is also referred to as the one like the Son of man (Dan.13:7KJV), and again as another witness of that same man the overcomer/conqueror (Rev.2:26-27KJV), that hidden arrow/polished shaft (Rev.6:2KJV), (Isa.49:2KJV). And of course that same man is written in (Zech.3:1-2KJV).

These verses are speaking of one man not two different men but a certain man. Not the Man Jesus but one like him performing similar duties as his Master does. So believing something and revealing the truth of that belief through the Word are two different objectives all together.

You might want to show this post to your wife. That I might be able to defend myself from false accusations of wrong doings and that I seem to still possess a sound mind after the jab. But I doubt you would ever do that. It might expose a truth about you you wouldn't like.

That is all I have to say on the subject. I have told you these things and showed you these examples over and over. Yet you will not hear them or believe what is written in the Word so it is enough. Thank you for stop commenting on my karma page.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


Neither your 1000 posts nor my 10,000 posts would make any difference to her (you act as if I haven’t read psalm 88...friend and lover though has put far from me...). I’ve already explained to her I will be on earth for the millennium with you finishing my commission.

You drivel on and on about how you show me everything. You are supposed to show me so I can discern how to divide the scriptures....Judah plows and Jacob breaks the clods(divides the blessings). My position is one position not both plow and clod breaker. You appear to have a problem discerning who gets what inheritance and who gets what blessing. That is because you are only Judah the plow so you can not break the clods because you aren’t Jacob the clod breaker. I’ll show ya one more time so you can see who is who...and who gets what.....here is the key:


One anointed .....................The other anointed

1. Judah.............................2 Joseph

1. 1st born.........................2nd born
2. Scepter...........................Birthright
3. Spiritual Masculine...........Spiritual Feminine
4. Earthly kingship. .............Earthly priesthood
 Quoting: waterman


Your excuse for stealing others revelation is the plow story. And you steal even the character to play the role that doesn't belong to you to begin with.

And the verse you quoted about in (Psalms 88) never did apply to you but it will come to pass but not now. And will continue to apply with friend and a lover that shall come to that one later. It means nothing concerning a wife. But read the Word; don't assume to already know the meaning.

For only the prophesy can be comprehended by him to who shall already understand it meaning and how it shall one day come to pass. But the Word doesn't say anything about a wife as you are seeking to claim. Few wives are lovers and sadly few are even less than friends. Those days have not yet appeared as you believe, but for another time in the future.

Remember prophesy must follow the one spoken about not that we must follow the prophesy to discern its meaning. Prophesy is not as if one seeks its understanding to comprehend it. But as the prophesy has already revealed its meaning to the one it's applicable to.

For the event is as if it has already been lived or shown before it is manifested in that life of whom the prophesy applies. How can you see the vision if it has not first been revealed to whom it is meant to comprehend it.

My friend I have no trouble discerning the Word as you claim. Or its meaning or its failure to be comprehended through the silly traditions of man's concepts of it projected meaning. Men read into it what they want it to say but often misquote what it really says. Or how it presents itself in past, present, and future form. God is a God of motion and cannot always be restrained by the demands of mortals to stand ye still Lord God.

As I have told you beforehand in other threads ..believe as you wish but stop seeking me to believe what silly disregard you bring upon the Word of God. Or the concepts of an imagination that was never meant to be abused against the Word.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


If you were doing a single anointed paper I would have gave you credit...but it is double anointed so you had no part for the other anointed.

I’m sure lover and friend to you was the word but learn layers and the word can be speaking multi layers and not just one layer. As soon as you find one layer you go on to the next scripture. You stop layers when it is convenient for you. As soon as it shows a second anointed you stop it one layer before that...lol
 Quoting: waterman


I know about layers in God's Word. I wrote about them in my book "Enigmatic Sunrise" in 2006. I am sure that's where you learned to discuss this deeper subject that I again taught you. In this passage however; friend and lover are singular entities period. Not meant to be complicated in comprehension and is intended to be one of the same person, his friend and lover.

As I have said many times I believe in two anointed for the end times. Stop claiming I don't. You are simply and purposely lying again. Stop lying about what another person believes and you know it's true that I believe this way.

Telling a lie about another person when you know it is a lie is a great sin in God's eyes. That will lead you to Hell (1cor.6:9-10). I keep warning you about this but apparently you refuse to take God's Word seriously and keep telling the same lie.

I believe in two anointed appearing in the end days. I just don't believe you are one of them. Stop trying to convince me it is you. I know it isn't you and cannot be you. For one of many reasons I know it is not you b/c I was shown the other witness in a vision from the Lord and it was differently not you.

Good bye waterman, go push your propaganda to someone that wants to hear your lies my friend. Believe it or not you are just like the other millions of people who want to be someone. And yet they are content to be good husbands, siblings, children, and parents. That is also pleasing to God. Be content with that and try accomplishing that task. It's much harder than telling lies about others but much more satisfying.
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Neither your 1000 posts nor my 10,000 posts would make any difference to her (you act as if I haven’t read psalm 88...friend and lover though has put far from me...). I’ve already explained to her I will be on earth for the millennium with you finishing my commission.

You drivel on and on about how you show me everything. You are supposed to show me so I can discern how to divide the scriptures....Judah plows and Jacob breaks the clods(divides the blessings). My position is one position not both plow and clod breaker. You appear to have a problem discerning who gets what inheritance and who gets what blessing. That is because you are only Judah the plow so you can not break the clods because you aren’t Jacob the clod breaker. I’ll show ya one more time so you can see who is who...and who gets what.....here is the key:


One anointed .....................The other anointed

1. Judah.............................2 Joseph

1. 1st born.........................2nd born
2. Scepter...........................Birthright
3. Spiritual Masculine...........Spiritual Feminine
4. Earthly kingship. .............Earthly priesthood
 Quoting: waterman


Your excuse for stealing others revelation is the plow story. And you steal even the character to play the role that doesn't belong to you to begin with.

And the verse you quoted about in (Psalms 88) never did apply to you but it will come to pass but not now. And will continue to apply with friend and a lover that shall come to that one later. It means nothing concerning a wife. But read the Word; don't assume to already know the meaning.

For only the prophesy can be comprehended by him to who shall already understand it meaning and how it shall one day come to pass. But the Word doesn't say anything about a wife as you are seeking to claim. Few wives are lovers and sadly few are even less than friends. Those days have not yet appeared as you believe, but for another time in the future.

Remember prophesy must follow the one spoken about not that we must follow the prophesy to discern its meaning. Prophesy is not as if one seeks its understanding to comprehend it. But as the prophesy has already revealed its meaning to the one it's applicable to.

For the event is as if it has already been lived or shown before it is manifested in that life of whom the prophesy applies. How can you see the vision if it has not first been revealed to whom it is meant to comprehend it.

My friend I have no trouble discerning the Word as you claim. Or its meaning or its failure to be comprehended through the silly traditions of man's concepts of it projected meaning. Men read into it what they want it to say but often misquote what it really says. Or how it presents itself in past, present, and future form. God is a God of motion and cannot always be restrained by the demands of mortals to stand ye still Lord God.

As I have told you beforehand in other threads ..believe as you wish but stop seeking me to believe what silly disregard you bring upon the Word of God. Or the concepts of an imagination that was never meant to be abused against the Word.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


If you were doing a single anointed paper I would have gave you credit...but it is double anointed so you had no part for the other anointed.

I’m sure lover and friend to you was the word but learn layers and the word can be speaking multi layers and not just one layer. As soon as you find one layer you go on to the next scripture. You stop layers when it is convenient for you. As soon as it shows a second anointed you stop it one layer before that...lol
 Quoting: waterman


I know about layers in God's Word. I wrote about them in my book "Enigmatic Sunrise" in 2006. I am sure that's where you learned to discuss this deeper subject that I again taught you. In this passage however; friend and lover are singular entities period. Not meant to be complicated in comprehension and is intended to be one of the same person, his friend and lover.

As I have said many times I believe in two anointed for the end times. Stop claiming I don't. You are simply and purposely lying again. Stop lying about what another person believes and you know it's true that I believe this way.

Telling a lie about another person when you know it is a lie is a great sin in God's eyes. That will lead you to Hell (1cor.6:9-10). I keep warning you about this but apparently you refuse to take God's Word seriously and keep telling the same lie.

I believe in two anointed appearing in the end days. I just don't believe you are one of them. Stop trying to convince me it is you. I know it isn't you and cannot be you. For one of many reasons I know it is not you b/c I was shown the other witness in a vision from the Lord and it was differently not you.

Good bye waterman, go push your propaganda to someone that wants to hear your lies my friend. Believe it or not you are just like the other millions of people who want to be someone. And yet they are content to be good husbands, siblings, children, and parents. That is also pleasing to God. Be content with that and try accomplishing that task. It's much harder than telling lies about others but much more satisfying.
 Quoting: S-wordlike




You know what doesn’t lie? This chart.....there are 12 sons blessings and David is to be king...the kingly line is Judah...end of story. One doesn’t get to pick and choose several inheritances. You only get one and yours is the Judah blessing/sceptre.

The two greatest blessings are from the two free women line of Leah and Rachael. Therefore the two anointed will receive the two greatest blessings from the two free women. One the sceptre and the other the birthright...so simple when you know David gets the sceptre ...it only leaves the other anointed with the birthright and rightly so because he is the second born.


God is not going to give David the Judah sceptre and just give the other anointed the least inheritance of gad when there is a Joseph birthright inheritance still on the table. It would be a failed covenant breaking ending to a climatic plan of two having dominion over the whole earth. Jesus would have wasted his time because once God breaks a covenant he can no longer be trusted as being truthful. David can’t have more than one inheritance so let’s just waste the birthright blessing and give the other anointed the least inheritance....lol...you still can’t see how that is laughable? I’m glad you aren’t in charge of passing out inheritances..lol



jacob1



You wanna find the other anointed? Read zechariah 11 it’s right there . Look for a broken brotherhood individual instead of a buddy(God always separates before he rejoins so both halves can become independent and stronger)because only one of the anointed is going to be able to see the other anointed and it isn’t Judah who will be able to see the other anointed...it is Joseph who will be able to see Judah before the fullness of the gentiles.

Getting pretty late in the game for you to find another anointed that can fulfill the scriptures of having sweet council with you and then broken brotherhood before the reunification in the throne room/fullness of the gentiles...lol...that’s how I know who I am...because I know the characteristics of the Judah and Joseph relationship and I know you are Judah....kinda narrows it down to just me being the other half of the broken brotherhood...lol

Joseph and Judah

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Your excuse for stealing others revelation is the plow story. And you steal even the character to play the role that doesn't belong to you to begin with.

And the verse you quoted about in (Psalms 88) never did apply to you but it will come to pass but not now. And will continue to apply with friend and a lover that shall come to that one later. It means nothing concerning a wife. But read the Word; don't assume to already know the meaning.

For only the prophesy can be comprehended by him to who shall already understand it meaning and how it shall one day come to pass. But the Word doesn't say anything about a wife as you are seeking to claim. Few wives are lovers and sadly few are even less than friends. Those days have not yet appeared as you believe, but for another time in the future.

Remember prophesy must follow the one spoken about not that we must follow the prophesy to discern its meaning. Prophesy is not as if one seeks its understanding to comprehend it. But as the prophesy has already revealed its meaning to the one it's applicable to.

For the event is as if it has already been lived or shown before it is manifested in that life of whom the prophesy applies. How can you see the vision if it has not first been revealed to whom it is meant to comprehend it.

My friend I have no trouble discerning the Word as you claim. Or its meaning or its failure to be comprehended through the silly traditions of man's concepts of it projected meaning. Men read into it what they want it to say but often misquote what it really says. Or how it presents itself in past, present, and future form. God is a God of motion and cannot always be restrained by the demands of mortals to stand ye still Lord God.

As I have told you beforehand in other threads ..believe as you wish but stop seeking me to believe what silly disregard you bring upon the Word of God. Or the concepts of an imagination that was never meant to be abused against the Word.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


If you were doing a single anointed paper I would have gave you credit...but it is double anointed so you had no part for the other anointed.

I’m sure lover and friend to you was the word but learn layers and the word can be speaking multi layers and not just one layer. As soon as you find one layer you go on to the next scripture. You stop layers when it is convenient for you. As soon as it shows a second anointed you stop it one layer before that...lol
 Quoting: waterman


I know about layers in God's Word. I wrote about them in my book "Enigmatic Sunrise" in 2006. I am sure that's where you learned to discuss this deeper subject that I again taught you. In this passage however; friend and lover are singular entities period. Not meant to be complicated in comprehension and is intended to be one of the same person, his friend and lover.

As I have said many times I believe in two anointed for the end times. Stop claiming I don't. You are simply and purposely lying again. Stop lying about what another person believes and you know it's true that I believe this way.

Telling a lie about another person when you know it is a lie is a great sin in God's eyes. That will lead you to Hell (1cor.6:9-10). I keep warning you about this but apparently you refuse to take God's Word seriously and keep telling the same lie.

I believe in two anointed appearing in the end days. I just don't believe you are one of them. Stop trying to convince me it is you. I know it isn't you and cannot be you. For one of many reasons I know it is not you b/c I was shown the other witness in a vision from the Lord and it was differently not you.

Good bye waterman, go push your propaganda to someone that wants to hear your lies my friend. Believe it or not you are just like the other millions of people who want to be someone. And yet they are content to be good husbands, siblings, children, and parents. That is also pleasing to God. Be content with that and try accomplishing that task. It's much harder than telling lies about others but much more satisfying.
 Quoting: S-wordlike




You know what doesn’t lie? This chart.....there are 12 sons blessings and David is to be king...the kingly line is Judah...end of story. One doesn’t get to pick and choose several inheritances. You only get one and yours is the Judah blessing/sceptre.

The two greatest blessings are from the two free women line of Leah and Rachael. Therefore the two anointed will receive the two greatest blessings from the two free women. One the sceptre and the other the birthright...so simple when you know David gets the sceptre ...it only leaves the other anointed with the birthright and rightly so because he is the second born.


God is not going to give David the Judah sceptre and just give the other anointed the least inheritance of gad when there is a Joseph birthright inheritance still on the table. It would be a failed covenant breaking ending to a climatic plan of two having dominion over the whole earth. Jesus would have wasted his time because once God breaks a covenant he can no longer be trusted as being truthful. David can’t have more than one inheritance so let’s just waste the birthright blessing and give the other anointed the least inheritance....lol...you still can’t see how that is laughable? I’m glad you aren’t in charge of passing out inheritances..lol



jacob1



You wanna find the other anointed? Read zechariah 11 it’s right there . Look for a broken brotherhood individual instead of a buddy(God always separates before he rejoins so both halves can become independent and stronger)because only one of the anointed is going to be able to see the other anointed and it isn’t Judah who will be able to see the other anointed...it is Joseph who will be able to see Judah before the fullness of the gentiles.

Getting pretty late in the game for you to find another anointed that can fulfill the scriptures of having sweet council with you and then broken brotherhood before the reunification in the throne room/fullness of the gentiles...lol...that’s how I know who I am...because I know the characteristics of the Judah and Joseph relationship and I know you are Judah....kinda narrows it down to just me being the other half of the broken brotherhood...lol

Joseph and Judah
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My friend I have told you over and over that I am not symbolic of the man Judah (Gen.49:8-12KJV) as you keep insisting on. Judah is symbolic of Jesus (the lion of Judah).

Thus Judah/Jesus first born plowed the field and Jacob shall break the clods. Jacob who later is named Israel meaning prince breaks the clods (gives the correct interpretation):

(Isa.42:21KJV), He will magnify (make clear) the law (the Word) and make it honorable (the correct interpretation).


Who will do this? (Jacob/Israel/prince):

(Isa.45:4KJV) For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee though thou hast not known me.


That man had not known him at the time of the prophesy. Because it was not the original man (Jacob/Israel/the prince) that he was addressing in these passages at this time. For of course the man (Jacob/Israel) knew God and his works and had already walked with him and had already passed away at the time of the words of this Bible passage had already been spoken.

The reason the man being prophesied about did not know his God is because at the time of these words he was not yet born. But was to come forth at a later date and learn his place as (the Jacob/Israel/prince) he shall be called to be. And the one who shall break the clods to give the correct interpretations of the Word.

The two anointed are for the end days and are the symbolic Joseph and Gad (the man from nope of Gad (Elijah). Gad/Elijah goes forth with the (crown of the head (the prince/Joseph) (Gen.49.26KJV) crown of the head last sentence in this verse (26) of (Gen 49).

Gad (Elijah) goes with him (Crown of the head, Joseph), in the end times (Deut.33:20-21KJV). And Gad (Elijah) comes with the (crown of the head) Joseph, last sentence (Crown of the head) in verse (20) of (Deut.33) to tear the arm (power) of the antichrist.

Therefor we can know from Scripture that it is Joseph (the crown of the head, the prince) And Gad (Elijah from nope of Gad) appear together at the time lineage for the end days (the crown of the head and Elijah to tear the Arm of the powers of the ruling power in the last days as was told to Jacob, these are for the last days (Gen.49:1KJV).

All your charts are past records of God's layered plans but after the resurrection Jesus was God's new plans for his order of positions.

Nations and tribes still applied but traditions and customs was changed. Even the eating of certain foods and the need for a new temple made of flesh. And the change of dictates from offices to conformations that followed after the NEW laws/ways of his Son; and putting away the OLD ways/laws of men's traditions.

Now your (Zechariah 11) passages are not speaking of another anointed but two regions of one nation. And I notice you excluded the (Zech.3:1-2KJV) that you used to claim was the other anointed but now you seem to have changed your mind once I convinced you that it was the same one/man spoken of in (Rev.12:5KJV), (Dan.13:7KJV), (Rev.2:25-26KJV) and (Rev.6:2KJV), (Isa.49.2KJV).

For It would seem strange that God would give two or three witnessed testimonies in Scripture of the one anointed but only ONE witnessed testimony of the other. It seems God violated his own law/word. Saying in the mouth of TWO or more witnesses ever word shall be established.

He didn't violate his law. All these verses/passages are speaking of the same man not two different ones. Whole books follow the course of Elijah but so little is revealed about the other anointed. Until you see him in every book hidden away, until he be shown (Isa.49:2KJV).

My friend I am done arguing these points with you over and over again about offices, customs, and traditions. You love the old traditions that is obvious. But these things are passed away now. And since Christ resurrection all things have become new, old things are passed away.

I wish you nothing but the best. Now please stop addressing me about these silly concepts of yours in your threads and on my karma page.

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If you were doing a single anointed paper I would have gave you credit...but it is double anointed so you had no part for the other anointed.

I’m sure lover and friend to you was the word but learn layers and the word can be speaking multi layers and not just one layer. As soon as you find one layer you go on to the next scripture. You stop layers when it is convenient for you. As soon as it shows a second anointed you stop it one layer before that...lol
 Quoting: waterman


I know about layers in God's Word. I wrote about them in my book "Enigmatic Sunrise" in 2006. I am sure that's where you learned to discuss this deeper subject that I again taught you. In this passage however; friend and lover are singular entities period. Not meant to be complicated in comprehension and is intended to be one of the same person, his friend and lover.

As I have said many times I believe in two anointed for the end times. Stop claiming I don't. You are simply and purposely lying again. Stop lying about what another person believes and you know it's true that I believe this way.

Telling a lie about another person when you know it is a lie is a great sin in God's eyes. That will lead you to Hell (1cor.6:9-10). I keep warning you about this but apparently you refuse to take God's Word seriously and keep telling the same lie.

I believe in two anointed appearing in the end days. I just don't believe you are one of them. Stop trying to convince me it is you. I know it isn't you and cannot be you. For one of many reasons I know it is not you b/c I was shown the other witness in a vision from the Lord and it was differently not you.

Good bye waterman, go push your propaganda to someone that wants to hear your lies my friend. Believe it or not you are just like the other millions of people who want to be someone. And yet they are content to be good husbands, siblings, children, and parents. That is also pleasing to God. Be content with that and try accomplishing that task. It's much harder than telling lies about others but much more satisfying.
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You know what doesn’t lie? This chart.....there are 12 sons blessings and David is to be king...the kingly line is Judah...end of story. One doesn’t get to pick and choose several inheritances. You only get one and yours is the Judah blessing/sceptre.

The two greatest blessings are from the two free women line of Leah and Rachael. Therefore the two anointed will receive the two greatest blessings from the two free women. One the sceptre and the other the birthright...so simple when you know David gets the sceptre ...it only leaves the other anointed with the birthright and rightly so because he is the second born.


God is not going to give David the Judah sceptre and just give the other anointed the least inheritance of gad when there is a Joseph birthright inheritance still on the table. It would be a failed covenant breaking ending to a climatic plan of two having dominion over the whole earth. Jesus would have wasted his time because once God breaks a covenant he can no longer be trusted as being truthful. David can’t have more than one inheritance so let’s just waste the birthright blessing and give the other anointed the least inheritance....lol...you still can’t see how that is laughable? I’m glad you aren’t in charge of passing out inheritances..lol



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You wanna find the other anointed? Read zechariah 11 it’s right there . Look for a broken brotherhood individual instead of a buddy(God always separates before he rejoins so both halves can become independent and stronger)because only one of the anointed is going to be able to see the other anointed and it isn’t Judah who will be able to see the other anointed...it is Joseph who will be able to see Judah before the fullness of the gentiles.

Getting pretty late in the game for you to find another anointed that can fulfill the scriptures of having sweet council with you and then broken brotherhood before the reunification in the throne room/fullness of the gentiles...lol...that’s how I know who I am...because I know the characteristics of the Judah and Joseph relationship and I know you are Judah....kinda narrows it down to just me being the other half of the broken brotherhood...lol

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My friend I have told you over and over that I am not symbolic of the man Judah (Gen.49:8-12KJV) as you keep insisting on. Judah is symbolic of Jesus (the lion of Judah).

Thus Judah/Jesus first born plowed the field and Jacob shall break the clods. Jacob who later is named Israel meaning prince breaks the clods (gives the correct interpretation):

(Isa.42:21KJV), He will magnify (make clear) the law (the Word) and make it honorable (the correct interpretation).


Who will do this? (Jacob/Israel/prince):

(Isa.45:4KJV) For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee though thou hast not known me.


That man had not known him at the time of the prophesy. Because it was not the original man (Jacob/Israel/the prince) that he was addressing in these passages at this time. For of course the man (Jacob/Israel) knew God and his works and had already walked with him and had already passed away at the time of the words of this Bible passage had already been spoken.

The reason the man being prophesied about did not know his God is because at the time of these words he was not yet born. But was to come forth at a later date and learn his place as (the Jacob/Israel/prince) he shall be called to be. And the one who shall break the clods to give the correct interpretations of the Word.

The two anointed are for the end days and are the symbolic Joseph and Gad (the man from nope of Gad (Elijah). Gad/Elijah goes forth with the (crown of the head (the prince/Joseph) (Gen.49.26KJV) crown of the head last sentence in this verse (26) of (Gen 49).

Gad (Elijah) goes with him (Crown of the head, Joseph), in the end times (Deut.33:20-21KJV). And Gad (Elijah) comes with the (crown of the head) Joseph, last sentence (Crown of the head) in verse (20) of (Deut.33) to tear the arm (power) of the antichrist.

Therefor we can know from Scripture that it is Joseph (the crown of the head, the prince) And Gad (Elijah from nope of Gad) appear together at the time lineage for the end days (the crown of the head and Elijah to tear the Arm of the powers of the ruling power in the last days as was told to Jacob, these are for the last days (Gen.49:1KJV).

All your charts are past records of God's layered plans but after the resurrection Jesus was God's new plans for his order of positions.

Nations and tribes still applied but traditions and customs was changed. Even the eating of certain foods and the need for a new temple made of flesh. And the change of dictates from offices to conformations that followed after the NEW laws/ways of his Son; and putting away the OLD ways/laws of men's traditions.

Now your (Zechariah 11) passages are not speaking of another anointed but two regions of one nation. And I notice you excluded the (Zech.3:1-2KJV) that you used to claim was the other anointed but now you seem to have changed your mind once I convinced you that it was the same one/man spoken of in (Rev.12:5KJV), (Dan.13:7KJV), (Rev.2:25-26KJV) and (Rev.6:2KJV), (Isa.49.2KJV).

For It would seem strange that God would give two or three witnessed testimonies in Scripture of the one anointed but only ONE witnessed testimony of the other. It seems God violated his own law/word. Saying in the mouth of TWO or more witnesses ever word shall be established.

He didn't violate his law. All these verses/passages are speaking of the same man not two different ones. Whole books follow the course of Elijah but so little is revealed about the other anointed. Until you see him in every book hidden away, until he be shown (Isa.49:2KJV).

My friend I am done arguing these points with you over and over again about offices, customs, and traditions. You love the old traditions that is obvious. But these things are passed away now. And since Christ resurrection all things have become new, old things are passed away.

I wish you nothing but the best. Now please stop addressing me about these silly concepts of yours in your threads and on my karma page.
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The problem is you aren’t “breaking the clods”. You are giving one anointed all the choice inheritance/blessings and leaving the other anointed with nothing and without dominion making God break his covenant with the 2nd born. You are clearly plowing the scriptures but don’t know how to break the clods/divide the inheritance/blessings. The key is to understand the volume of the book is talking about he 1st born and the second born..if you see the first born search carefully because the second born is going to be in the same area as they are both in the volume of the book

You do the same thing the j*ws do. They too only see the j*ws receiving all inheritance. The other anointed is going to receive dominion producing inheritance/blessing and there are only two inheritances that produce world dominion blessing and that is the kingship Judah blessing and the other is the Joseph birthright blessing which gives the birthright holder the dominion to be in charge of the earthly levitic priesthood through the birthright.

You don’t know how to break clods. You grab all the clods without splitting them to share dominion with the other anointed.... this is how you know you aren’t 2nd born Jacob because jacob would know how to divide the clods/inheritance between the two anointed instead of claiming all dominion inheritance for himself. Gotta divide the earthly kingship and earthly priesthood in order for 2 to have dominion on earth. But I do admit you do a nice job plowing as I can see all the inheritance/blessings and how to divide them between the 1st born(that’s you) and the 2nd born(that’s the other anointed).


Judah the j*ws plow the scriptures too and they do the same thing on the macro that you do on the micro.They claim all the inheritance/blessings and leave none for the gentile....can you not see you are doing the same on the micro between the 2 anointed ?






I have never seen anybody as blinded by God as you. You think you are going to be under the same covenant as the bride during the millennium. We are going back to the davidic/levitic kingdom. Elijah will “restore” all things. Which means separation of the kingship and the priesthood. Being Jesus isn’t going to be on earth during the millennium the Judah blessing will be David’s inheritance on earth.



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As far as Zechariah 3 goes I’m still of the same opinion... Zechariah shows Joshua receiving the priesthood and revelation being the connected book of Zechariah shows the man child receiving the government.

Here is a secret for ya: if you have one anointed doing the kingship and the priesthood then you interpreted it wrong...because they are separate offices and once the age of grace ends Elijah will restore the davidic/levitic kingdom making it possible for two to have dominion as God intended from the beginning.

On earth if you are from Judah then you can’t be in charge of the priesthood....but you will learn that in the throne room when you try to tell Jesus you are receiving the sceptre and the birthright...lol

Heeebrews 7:14:

King James Bible
For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood

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I know about layers in God's Word. I wrote about them in my book "Enigmatic Sunrise" in 2006. I am sure that's where you learned to discuss this deeper subject that I again taught you. In this passage however; friend and lover are singular entities period. Not meant to be complicated in comprehension and is intended to be one of the same person, his friend and lover.

As I have said many times I believe in two anointed for the end times. Stop claiming I don't. You are simply and purposely lying again. Stop lying about what another person believes and you know it's true that I believe this way.

Telling a lie about another person when you know it is a lie is a great sin in God's eyes. That will lead you to Hell (1cor.6:9-10). I keep warning you about this but apparently you refuse to take God's Word seriously and keep telling the same lie.

I believe in two anointed appearing in the end days. I just don't believe you are one of them. Stop trying to convince me it is you. I know it isn't you and cannot be you. For one of many reasons I know it is not you b/c I was shown the other witness in a vision from the Lord and it was differently not you.

Good bye waterman, go push your propaganda to someone that wants to hear your lies my friend. Believe it or not you are just like the other millions of people who want to be someone. And yet they are content to be good husbands, siblings, children, and parents. That is also pleasing to God. Be content with that and try accomplishing that task. It's much harder than telling lies about others but much more satisfying.
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You know what doesn’t lie? This chart.....there are 12 sons blessings and David is to be king...the kingly line is Judah...end of story. One doesn’t get to pick and choose several inheritances. You only get one and yours is the Judah blessing/sceptre.

The two greatest blessings are from the two free women line of Leah and Rachael. Therefore the two anointed will receive the two greatest blessings from the two free women. One the sceptre and the other the birthright...so simple when you know David gets the sceptre ...it only leaves the other anointed with the birthright and rightly so because he is the second born.


God is not going to give David the Judah sceptre and just give the other anointed the least inheritance of gad when there is a Joseph birthright inheritance still on the table. It would be a failed covenant breaking ending to a climatic plan of two having dominion over the whole earth. Jesus would have wasted his time because once God breaks a covenant he can no longer be trusted as being truthful. David can’t have more than one inheritance so let’s just waste the birthright blessing and give the other anointed the least inheritance....lol...you still can’t see how that is laughable? I’m glad you aren’t in charge of passing out inheritances..lol



jacob1



You wanna find the other anointed? Read zechariah 11 it’s right there . Look for a broken brotherhood individual instead of a buddy(God always separates before he rejoins so both halves can become independent and stronger)because only one of the anointed is going to be able to see the other anointed and it isn’t Judah who will be able to see the other anointed...it is Joseph who will be able to see Judah before the fullness of the gentiles.

Getting pretty late in the game for you to find another anointed that can fulfill the scriptures of having sweet council with you and then broken brotherhood before the reunification in the throne room/fullness of the gentiles...lol...that’s how I know who I am...because I know the characteristics of the Judah and Joseph relationship and I know you are Judah....kinda narrows it down to just me being the other half of the broken brotherhood...lol

Joseph and Judah
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My friend I have told you over and over that I am not symbolic of the man Judah (Gen.49:8-12KJV) as you keep insisting on. Judah is symbolic of Jesus (the lion of Judah).

Thus Judah/Jesus first born plowed the field and Jacob shall break the clods. Jacob who later is named Israel meaning prince breaks the clods (gives the correct interpretation):

(Isa.42:21KJV), He will magnify (make clear) the law (the Word) and make it honorable (the correct interpretation).


Who will do this? (Jacob/Israel/prince):

(Isa.45:4KJV) For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee though thou hast not known me.


That man had not known him at the time of the prophesy. Because it was not the original man (Jacob/Israel/the prince) that he was addressing in these passages at this time. For of course the man (Jacob/Israel) knew God and his works and had already walked with him and had already passed away at the time of the words of this Bible passage had already been spoken.

The reason the man being prophesied about did not know his God is because at the time of these words he was not yet born. But was to come forth at a later date and learn his place as (the Jacob/Israel/prince) he shall be called to be. And the one who shall break the clods to give the correct interpretations of the Word.

The two anointed are for the end days and are the symbolic Joseph and Gad (the man from nope of Gad (Elijah). Gad/Elijah goes forth with the (crown of the head (the prince/Joseph) (Gen.49.26KJV) crown of the head last sentence in this verse (26) of (Gen 49).

Gad (Elijah) goes with him (Crown of the head, Joseph), in the end times (Deut.33:20-21KJV). And Gad (Elijah) comes with the (crown of the head) Joseph, last sentence (Crown of the head) in verse (20) of (Deut.33) to tear the arm (power) of the antichrist.

Therefor we can know from Scripture that it is Joseph (the crown of the head, the prince) And Gad (Elijah from nope of Gad) appear together at the time lineage for the end days (the crown of the head and Elijah to tear the Arm of the powers of the ruling power in the last days as was told to Jacob, these are for the last days (Gen.49:1KJV).

All your charts are past records of God's layered plans but after the resurrection Jesus was God's new plans for his order of positions.

Nations and tribes still applied but traditions and customs was changed. Even the eating of certain foods and the need for a new temple made of flesh. And the change of dictates from offices to conformations that followed after the NEW laws/ways of his Son; and putting away the OLD ways/laws of men's traditions.

Now your (Zechariah 11) passages are not speaking of another anointed but two regions of one nation. And I notice you excluded the (Zech.3:1-2KJV) that you used to claim was the other anointed but now you seem to have changed your mind once I convinced you that it was the same one/man spoken of in (Rev.12:5KJV), (Dan.13:7KJV), (Rev.2:25-26KJV) and (Rev.6:2KJV), (Isa.49.2KJV).

For It would seem strange that God would give two or three witnessed testimonies in Scripture of the one anointed but only ONE witnessed testimony of the other. It seems God violated his own law/word. Saying in the mouth of TWO or more witnesses ever word shall be established.

He didn't violate his law. All these verses/passages are speaking of the same man not two different ones. Whole books follow the course of Elijah but so little is revealed about the other anointed. Until you see him in every book hidden away, until he be shown (Isa.49:2KJV).

My friend I am done arguing these points with you over and over again about offices, customs, and traditions. You love the old traditions that is obvious. But these things are passed away now. And since Christ resurrection all things have become new, old things are passed away.

I wish you nothing but the best. Now please stop addressing me about these silly concepts of yours in your threads and on my karma page.
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The problem is you aren’t “breaking the clods”. You are giving one anointed all the choice inheritance/blessings and leaving the other anointed with nothing and without dominion making God break his covenant with the 2nd born. You are clearly plowing the scriptures but don’t know how to break the clods/divide the inheritance/blessings. The key is to understand the volume of the book is talking about he 1st born and the second born..if you see the first born search carefully because the second born is going to be in the same area as they are both in the volume of the book

You do the same thing the j*ws do. They too only see the j*ws receiving all inheritance. The other anointed is going to receive dominion producing inheritance/blessing and there are only two inheritances that produce world dominion blessing and that is the kingship Judah blessing and the other is the Joseph birthright blessing which gives the birthright holder the dominion to be in charge of the earthly levitic priesthood through the birthright.

You don’t know how to break clods. You grab all the clods without splitting them to share dominion with the other anointed.... this is how you know you aren’t 2nd born Jacob because jacob would know how to divide the clods/inheritance between the two anointed instead of claiming all dominion inheritance for himself. Gotta divide the earthly kingship and earthly priesthood in order for 2 to have dominion on earth. But I do admit you do a nice job plowing as I can see all the inheritance/blessings and how to divide them between the 1st born(that’s you) and the 2nd born(that’s the other anointed).


Judah the j*ws plow the scriptures too and they do the same thing on the macro that you do on the micro.They claim all the inheritance/blessings and leave none for the gentile....can you not see you are doing the same on the micro between the 2 anointed ?






I have never seen anybody as blinded by God as you. You think you are going to be under the same covenant as the bride during the millennium. We are going back to the davidic/levitic kingdom. Elijah will “restore” all things. Which means separation of the kingship and the priesthood. Being Jesus isn’t going to be on earth during the millennium the Judah blessing will be David’s inheritance on earth.



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As far as Zechariah 3 goes I’m still of the same opinion... Zechariah shows Joshua receiving the priesthood and revelation being the connected book of Zechariah shows the man child receiving the government.

Here is a secret for ya: if you have one anointed doing the kingship and the priesthood then you interpreted it wrong...because they are separate offices and once the age of grace ends Elijah will restore the davidic/levitic kingdom making it possible for two to have dominion as God intended from the beginning.

On earth if you are from Judah then you can’t be in charge of the priesthood....but you will learn that in the throne room when you try to tell Jesus you are receiving the sceptre and the birthright...lol

Heeebrews 7:14:

King James Bible
For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood

leftrightkingpri
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My friend do not be too quick to accuse God of blinding someone until you understand the time lineage of that promise. For many layers are concealed in God's time line of direction.

Waterman I am not ever going to acknowledge you as one of the anointed for the end days. I am also not seeking any position as you foolishly claim. I am just reading the meaning of Scripture in the perspective that I discern it to be. No one is seeking an other's anointed position. Stop being so jealous of a position that is not even yours to begin with my friend..lol

Let us take but one of many of these time lines consisting of more than one layer of these time frames or if you prefer time lineages.

(Zech.3KJV), for an example, the Theologians, Scholars, etc.; interpret for the masses the meaning of the Word, Scripture, passages, verses. Sadly many of these interpreters are as dumb as rocks most are non-believers and those remaining have never been given a discerning revelation in their life. Their main objective is to advance themselves, their career, or the recognition as their title indicates.

However this is enough about the cream of our crop in the eyes of men. Let us look at the meaning of the passage in (Zech.3KJV).

If you will notice Joshua as the high priest is in a filthy garment. The Lord orders the changing of his garment from dirty to clean. However suddenly he has a new raiment on. Is this the same clean garment mentioned before or is this as it states a new raiment. I believe that it is.

I also believe that the depiction of the changing of the garments from dirty to clean and from clean to a new raiment are nothing more than an allegory, a metaphor, a symbolic gesture toward a deeper subject and a more lucid revelation being taught here.

Now I will seek to keep (Zech.3KJV) and its further passages precise and to the point. For the depth of its meaning could reach very complicated ramifications leading to profound subject matters that is not at this time required to be revealed.

Now does it not seem strange to the reader of these passages in (Zech.3); that suddenly Joshua is no longer mentioned after the appearing of the BRANCH? Although the whole subject matter is about Joshua, he is now no longer mentioned with the revealing of the BRANCH.

Just considering in speculation, is the Word seeking to tell us that perhaps the appearing of the BRANCH might possible be the reason Joshua had to change into his new raiment? Could Joshua possibly have become the BRANCH? Is this why he is not acknowledged in the passages again.

So then thereafter a few verses later in (Zech.4) a new man appears, Zerubbabel and he is a ruler and a man of great ability, even to the completion of the foundation of the house. So is this man the other portion of the BRANCH. Or perhaps the transformed Joshua or even another portion of the BRANCH?


Thus, to simplify these passages somewhat in (Zech.3-4) these passages speak about Joshua, the BRANCH, Zerubbabel and the two anointed as the two olive trees. These all seem to somewhat intermingled. But however are being spoken of in different time prospectives.

For instant the two witnesses will come forth as the two prophets but they will not at that time lineage hold any office as a king or a priest but two prophets of great power. They will seek to change mans hearts and establish the kingdom of God on the earth.

However, Joshua seems to merge into the BRANCH and on the other-side of the mentioning of the BRANCH becoming one office as one man in Zerubbabel. Thus, manifesting the Branch more as an office than an individual. Yet as an individual as Zerubbabel as a prince in Israel. Demonstrating his duties as prince and priest as revealed in (Ezek.44:3KJV) as the ruling prince of Israel and in (Ezek.46:2KJV) as that same prince of Israel performing his priestly duties.

The Zechariah and Ezekiel passages we have discussed here is all speculation at this point. But it definitely is a means of an allegorical mystery. These passages has/was first translated by those who sought to interpret its meaning and didn't grasp the full application of it. They failed to recognize the layers of the different time frames to begin with and went downhill from there in my opinion.

Waterman as far as the rest of your post/charts/graphs/pictures go I have seen them all a dozen times. I have no further comment on them except you do have a clear prospective of the order of how traditions were followed. And the order of things was accomplished at that time lineage. But all those old things pass away and all things have become new now in Christ.

Have a nice day waterman and get some rest.
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You know what doesn’t lie? This chart.....there are 12 sons blessings and David is to be king...the kingly line is Judah...end of story. One doesn’t get to pick and choose several inheritances. You only get one and yours is the Judah blessing/sceptre.

The two greatest blessings are from the two free women line of Leah and Rachael. Therefore the two anointed will receive the two greatest blessings from the two free women. One the sceptre and the other the birthright...so simple when you know David gets the sceptre ...it only leaves the other anointed with the birthright and rightly so because he is the second born.


God is not going to give David the Judah sceptre and just give the other anointed the least inheritance of gad when there is a Joseph birthright inheritance still on the table. It would be a failed covenant breaking ending to a climatic plan of two having dominion over the whole earth. Jesus would have wasted his time because once God breaks a covenant he can no longer be trusted as being truthful. David can’t have more than one inheritance so let’s just waste the birthright blessing and give the other anointed the least inheritance....lol...you still can’t see how that is laughable? I’m glad you aren’t in charge of passing out inheritances..lol



jacob1



You wanna find the other anointed? Read zechariah 11 it’s right there . Look for a broken brotherhood individual instead of a buddy(God always separates before he rejoins so both halves can become independent and stronger)because only one of the anointed is going to be able to see the other anointed and it isn’t Judah who will be able to see the other anointed...it is Joseph who will be able to see Judah before the fullness of the gentiles.

Getting pretty late in the game for you to find another anointed that can fulfill the scriptures of having sweet council with you and then broken brotherhood before the reunification in the throne room/fullness of the gentiles...lol...that’s how I know who I am...because I know the characteristics of the Judah and Joseph relationship and I know you are Judah....kinda narrows it down to just me being the other half of the broken brotherhood...lol

Joseph and Judah
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My friend I have told you over and over that I am not symbolic of the man Judah (Gen.49:8-12KJV) as you keep insisting on. Judah is symbolic of Jesus (the lion of Judah).

Thus Judah/Jesus first born plowed the field and Jacob shall break the clods. Jacob who later is named Israel meaning prince breaks the clods (gives the correct interpretation):

(Isa.42:21KJV), He will magnify (make clear) the law (the Word) and make it honorable (the correct interpretation).


Who will do this? (Jacob/Israel/prince):

(Isa.45:4KJV) For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee though thou hast not known me.


That man had not known him at the time of the prophesy. Because it was not the original man (Jacob/Israel/the prince) that he was addressing in these passages at this time. For of course the man (Jacob/Israel) knew God and his works and had already walked with him and had already passed away at the time of the words of this Bible passage had already been spoken.

The reason the man being prophesied about did not know his God is because at the time of these words he was not yet born. But was to come forth at a later date and learn his place as (the Jacob/Israel/prince) he shall be called to be. And the one who shall break the clods to give the correct interpretations of the Word.

The two anointed are for the end days and are the symbolic Joseph and Gad (the man from nope of Gad (Elijah). Gad/Elijah goes forth with the (crown of the head (the prince/Joseph) (Gen.49.26KJV) crown of the head last sentence in this verse (26) of (Gen 49).

Gad (Elijah) goes with him (Crown of the head, Joseph), in the end times (Deut.33:20-21KJV). And Gad (Elijah) comes with the (crown of the head) Joseph, last sentence (Crown of the head) in verse (20) of (Deut.33) to tear the arm (power) of the antichrist.

Therefor we can know from Scripture that it is Joseph (the crown of the head, the prince) And Gad (Elijah from nope of Gad) appear together at the time lineage for the end days (the crown of the head and Elijah to tear the Arm of the powers of the ruling power in the last days as was told to Jacob, these are for the last days (Gen.49:1KJV).

All your charts are past records of God's layered plans but after the resurrection Jesus was God's new plans for his order of positions.

Nations and tribes still applied but traditions and customs was changed. Even the eating of certain foods and the need for a new temple made of flesh. And the change of dictates from offices to conformations that followed after the NEW laws/ways of his Son; and putting away the OLD ways/laws of men's traditions.

Now your (Zechariah 11) passages are not speaking of another anointed but two regions of one nation. And I notice you excluded the (Zech.3:1-2KJV) that you used to claim was the other anointed but now you seem to have changed your mind once I convinced you that it was the same one/man spoken of in (Rev.12:5KJV), (Dan.13:7KJV), (Rev.2:25-26KJV) and (Rev.6:2KJV), (Isa.49.2KJV).

For It would seem strange that God would give two or three witnessed testimonies in Scripture of the one anointed but only ONE witnessed testimony of the other. It seems God violated his own law/word. Saying in the mouth of TWO or more witnesses ever word shall be established.

He didn't violate his law. All these verses/passages are speaking of the same man not two different ones. Whole books follow the course of Elijah but so little is revealed about the other anointed. Until you see him in every book hidden away, until he be shown (Isa.49:2KJV).

My friend I am done arguing these points with you over and over again about offices, customs, and traditions. You love the old traditions that is obvious. But these things are passed away now. And since Christ resurrection all things have become new, old things are passed away.

I wish you nothing but the best. Now please stop addressing me about these silly concepts of yours in your threads and on my karma page.
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The problem is you aren’t “breaking the clods”. You are giving one anointed all the choice inheritance/blessings and leaving the other anointed with nothing and without dominion making God break his covenant with the 2nd born. You are clearly plowing the scriptures but don’t know how to break the clods/divide the inheritance/blessings. The key is to understand the volume of the book is talking about he 1st born and the second born..if you see the first born search carefully because the second born is going to be in the same area as they are both in the volume of the book

You do the same thing the j*ws do. They too only see the j*ws receiving all inheritance. The other anointed is going to receive dominion producing inheritance/blessing and there are only two inheritances that produce world dominion blessing and that is the kingship Judah blessing and the other is the Joseph birthright blessing which gives the birthright holder the dominion to be in charge of the earthly levitic priesthood through the birthright.

You don’t know how to break clods. You grab all the clods without splitting them to share dominion with the other anointed.... this is how you know you aren’t 2nd born Jacob because jacob would know how to divide the clods/inheritance between the two anointed instead of claiming all dominion inheritance for himself. Gotta divide the earthly kingship and earthly priesthood in order for 2 to have dominion on earth. But I do admit you do a nice job plowing as I can see all the inheritance/blessings and how to divide them between the 1st born(that’s you) and the 2nd born(that’s the other anointed).


Judah the j*ws plow the scriptures too and they do the same thing on the macro that you do on the micro.They claim all the inheritance/blessings and leave none for the gentile....can you not see you are doing the same on the micro between the 2 anointed ?






I have never seen anybody as blinded by God as you. You think you are going to be under the same covenant as the bride during the millennium. We are going back to the davidic/levitic kingdom. Elijah will “restore” all things. Which means separation of the kingship and the priesthood. Being Jesus isn’t going to be on earth during the millennium the Judah blessing will be David’s inheritance on earth.



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As far as Zechariah 3 goes I’m still of the same opinion... Zechariah shows Joshua receiving the priesthood and revelation being the connected book of Zechariah shows the man child receiving the government.

Here is a secret for ya: if you have one anointed doing the kingship and the priesthood then you interpreted it wrong...because they are separate offices and once the age of grace ends Elijah will restore the davidic/levitic kingdom making it possible for two to have dominion as God intended from the beginning.

On earth if you are from Judah then you can’t be in charge of the priesthood....but you will learn that in the throne room when you try to tell Jesus you are receiving the sceptre and the birthright...lol

Heeebrews 7:14:

King James Bible
For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood

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My friend do not be too quick to accuse God of blinding someone until you understand the time lineage of that promise. For many layers are concealed in God's time line of direction.

Waterman I am not ever going to acknowledge you as one of the anointed for the end days. I am also not seeking any position as you foolishly claim. I am just reading the meaning of Scripture in the perspective that I discern it to be. No one is seeking an other's anointed position. Stop being so jealous of a position that is not even yours to begin with my friend..lol

Let us take but one of many of these time lines consisting of more than one layer of these time frames or if you prefer time lineages.

(Zech.3KJV), for an example, the Theologians, Scholars, etc.; interpret for the masses the meaning of the Word, Scripture, passages, verses. Sadly many of these interpreters are as dumb as rocks most are non-believers and those remaining have never been given a discerning revelation in their life. Their main objective is to advance themselves, their career, or the recognition as their title indicates.

However this is enough about the cream of our crop in the eyes of men. Let us look at the meaning of the passage in (Zech.3KJV).

If you will notice Joshua as the high priest is in a filthy garment. The Lord orders the changing of his garment from dirty to clean. However suddenly he has a new raiment on. Is this the same clean garment mentioned before or is this as it states a new raiment. I believe that it is.

I also believe that the depiction of the changing of the garments from dirty to clean and from clean to a new raiment are nothing more than an allegory, a metaphor, a symbolic gesture toward a deeper subject and a more lucid revelation being taught here.

Now I will seek to keep (Zech.3KJV) and its further passages precise and to the point. For the depth of its meaning could reach very complicated ramifications leading to profound subject matters that is not at this time required to be revealed.

Now does it not seem strange to the reader of these passages in (Zech.3); that suddenly Joshua is no longer mentioned after the appearing of the BRANCH? Although the whole subject matter is about Joshua, he is now no longer mentioned with the revealing of the BRANCH.

Just considering in speculation, is the Word seeking to tell us that perhaps the appearing of the BRANCH might possible be the reason Joshua had to change into his new raiment? Could Joshua possibly have become the BRANCH? Is this why he is not acknowledged in the passages again.

So then thereafter a few verses later in (Zech.4) a new man appears, Zerubbabel and he is a ruler and a man of great ability, even to the completion of the foundation of the house. So is this man the other portion of the BRANCH. Or perhaps the transformed Joshua or even another portion of the BRANCH?


Thus, to simplify these passages somewhat in (Zech.3-4) these passages speak about Joshua, the BRANCH, Zerubbabel and the two anointed as the two olive trees. These all seem to somewhat intermingled. But however are being spoken of in different time prospectives.

For instant the two witnesses will come forth as the two prophets but they will not at that time lineage hold any office as a king or a priest but two prophets of great power. They will seek to change mans hearts and establish the kingdom of God on the earth.

However, Joshua seems to merge into the BRANCH and on the other-side of the mentioning of the BRANCH becoming one office as one man in Zerubbabel. Thus, manifesting the Branch more as an office than an individual. Yet as an individual as Zerubbabel as a prince in Israel. Demonstrating his duties as prince and priest as revealed in (Ezek.44:3KJV) as the ruling prince of Israel and in (Ezek.46:2KJV) as that same prince of Israel performing his priestly duties.

The Zechariah and Ezekiel passages we have discussed here is all speculation at this point. But it definitely is a means of an allegorical mystery. These passages has/was first translated by those who sought to interpret its meaning and didn't grasp the full application of it. They failed to recognize the layers of the different time frames to begin with and went downhill from there in my opinion.

Waterman as far as the rest of your post/charts/graphs/pictures go I have seen them all a dozen times. I have no further comment on them except you do have a clear prospective of the order of how traditions were followed. And the order of things was accomplished at that time lineage. But all those old things pass away and all things have become new now in Christ.

Have a nice day waterman and get some rest.
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Thanks for the post....I can’t have you waking up too soon...you are still destined to object in the throne room when I receive the birthright and the priesthood...have a good evening.

P.S
Ephraim is no longer jealous since he found out what his own position is.Isaiah 11:13....lol

If those traditions all passed away then why do Jeremiah and Ezekiel show them being “restored”?.....because the age of grace will have come to an end and a new dispensation with new laws will start.


The whole book is about the rivalry between the 1st born and the 2nd born. For some reason you think you are going to be best friends with the other anointed. I’m sure all those first borns in the volume of the book would have been best friends with all the 2nd borns had they received all the inheritance including the birthright. It’s easy to get along when you inherit everything. It’s a little harder when the younger brother gets the birthright.

Do you think your inheritance is going to be any different than all the other 1st born 2nd born rivalry inheritance? You are the 1st born which makes your inheritance the sceptre and the 2nd born the birthright

Do you think if all those 1st borns in the volume of the book received the kingship...the priesthood...and prophet offices they would have been complaining?....lol..your situation will be the same as all those in the volume of the book....you have to have a 2nd born who receives the birthright.....that is your test....sharing the two offices of the kingship and the priesthood for the millennium.

None of of those 1st borns in the volume of the book passed their test. It may just be me thinking out loud but I have my doubts of you passing the same test even though you were given the advantage of the 2nd born telling you what your test is....lol

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Yeah right. More likely they are trying to get the sheep to ask for microchips like ID2020. I'm sure the masses will fall for it. It's no longer hard to convince ppl.
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Ezekiel 38 war is the United States yet the scriptures call it Israel....again showing there are 2 Israel nations. If there are 2 Israel nations then there are 2 Israel representatives.

Ezekiel 38 war:

19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
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Turning law abiding citizens into criminals. What did they expect.

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