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I've lost ALL my respect for the Jehovah's Witnesses "the society" as they call it

 
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I've lost ALL my respect for the Jehovah's Witnesses "the society" as they call it
I've been working towards baptism due to my family all being Jehovah's Witnesses. I believe some things they teach but not everything. This week was the final straw and I'm telling my family that I'm out.

Why?

They were bragging that 99.6% of "Bethelites" are now vaccinated and that all Jehovah's Witnesses should get vaccinated too because "Jehovah would never allow bad things to happen to his people."

I was shocked because one of the "Governing body" gave a weird speech that literally sounded like a New World Order speech.
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In his speech, he praised those that "comply" with evidence but condemned those that look at alternative news and do their own research. Really??? Doesn't the Bible say "search things out and prove it to yourself"? YES IT DOES!
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OMG!! No way!! For decades they were against vaccines! I was one for 10 years I left in 1997. We both know the reason why they don’t take vaccines, so what makes this vaccine any different? I’m blown away!
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Sounds very suspect to me, like ‘wolf disguised as shepherd.’ If you like the faith, maybe find another congregation? God gave us brains and that ‘little spark of celestial fire called conscience.’ He wants us to use them, and it sounds like you are! Good luck and God bless!
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Door to door Satan salesmen.
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Re: I've lost ALL my respect for the Jehovah's Witnesses "the society" as they call it
Over the years I have learnt how important it is to go with what your intuition is telling you to be right.

Clearly your intuition is telling you that something is "off" with this group.

Alarm bells are ringing so take note and act accordingly.

Every time I have listened to and followed my intuition I have been saved from Danger or lead to wonderful new opportunities. I urge you to do the same.
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Seriously?? I am shocked they would do this. Very unlike the organization I was part of in the 1980s.

They are correct about transplants and blood transfusions. I have seen disasters in my family do to these procedures. So surprised about their stand on the shots.
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Re: I've lost ALL my respect for the Jehovah's Witnesses "the society" as they call it
And you probably don't want to get dunked. You become a slave to the organization.
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I left in 1978 don’t get a blood transfusion but get the death vax. Insanity
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Re: I've lost ALL my respect for the Jehovah's Witnesses "the society" as they call it
What happened to their no blood or blood derived product policy?

I grew up "in the truth" and was disassociated for asking questions they couldfreemasonry.

've never cared for any religion that cherry picks scripture to fit their narrative.

They don't want you researching on your own because you might find out they were founded by freemasons.


Charles Taze Russell was a Millerite Adventist who formed the Russellites Millenial Dawnists, and later the International Bible Students which would become the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

Oddly enough, if you bring one of his books to a Kingdom Hall and ask an elder or congregation overseer why his teachings are so fundamentally different than their modern dogma, you'll be called an apostate.

He was divorced in 1900 after his wife accused him of numerous affairs with female parishioners and after his heart attack in 1916, his final request was to die in a toga which those around him fashioned from bed sheets.

The second President of the Watchtower Society was Joseph Franklin Rutherford,
who is buried in a freemason cemetery with a mason's compass on his headstone.

The Witnesses have fought each other for control of the society since it's inception and flip flip their dogma based on who has control over it at the time.

Their latest scandal involves the theft of quick build funds from the individual congregations to be surrendered to the Society who will decide when and if you need a new Kingdom Hall. Numerous elders and overseers have been disfellowshipped for raising concerns and filing lawsuits over the matter.

Ask the Seventh Day Adventists why they branched off and distanced themselves from the Witnesses.

The rabbit hole is deep.
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BTW, pull out a Watchtower or awake magazine from the 80's...They always said "New World Order" until Bush gave the speech in 1991 and then it became "New System of Things".
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This is the same cult that forbids life saving blood transfusions?

WOW!!!!

Covid vax has got to be the biggest propaganda war in human history.
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They used to use KJV but the society started to drift away from sound doctrine . Instead of aligning their doctrine with Bible , they instead made their own Bible and changed a few words to match their doctrine.

Any church that would do that shouldn’t surprise you about vax statements
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Re: I've lost ALL my respect for the Jehovah's Witnesses "the society" as they call it
I've been working towards baptism due to my family all being Jehovah's Witnesses. I believe some things they teach but not everything. This week was the final straw and I'm telling my family that I'm out.

Why?

They were bragging that 99.6% of "Bethelites" are now vaccinated and that all Jehovah's Witnesses should get vaccinated too because "Jehovah would never allow bad things to happen to his people."

I was shocked because one of the "Governing body" gave a weird speech that literally sounded like a New World Order speech.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70015732


and OP.. Jehovah is not God.. it is the name of planet that orbits Alcyone.. and its People did the god stuff like fry Sodom and Gomorrah.. gave 20 commandments not 10... and lead MOses out of the wilderness. Very advanced planetary people that babysits earth at times.
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My parents joined this group when I was a kid. Everything changed for me. I might have left the family and organization as a teenager, but all the bible teachings stick to me this day. I still call my dad every week and he is 89 years old.

We discussed the shot and the "Mark of the Beast" stuff and he agreed. The next weekend we talked he told me he got the shot and the group is encouraging it.

I am devastated.
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This is a tough one

I love the people

But there are drawbacks

Like their ostracizing policies

And no one should influence a decision as corporate policy as important as injecting yourself with anything.

That is personal. Religion should play no part.

I vote find a new religion. They did not corner the market on God Christ or a good belief system. Try LDS. Similar but more independent thinking.

Good luck. I feel ya.
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"People get the Govern[ing body] they deserve."
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Im shocked

My sister in law was one. Terrible religion imo. When she was dying they provided zero spiritual support. Just blathered about second system nonsense.

She's have been better off going Anglican or Orthodox.

I always thought their religion was very twisted
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Here is my response to the Watchtower, an open letter being electronically sent to several hundred elders and Watchtower staff

[link to e-watchman.com (secure)]
"Jehovah is a manly person of war. Jehovah is his name." Exodus 15:3
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OMG!! No way!! For decades they were against vaccines! I was one for 10 years I left in 1997. We both know the reason why they don’t take vaccines, so what makes this vaccine any different? I’m blown away!
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They can celebrate the day! Or, wait, no..
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Im shocked

My sister in law was one. Terrible religion imo. When she was dying they provided zero spiritual support. Just blathered about second system nonsense.

She's have been better off going Anglican or Orthodox.

I always thought their religion was very twisted
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Shoulda gone to Christian Scientist church where they only trust in Jesus for healing.

Funny thing, around the time Jesus began using me to heal people I went into a church and during the meeting I asked if there was anyone there who had any pain, because I wanted to pray for them to Jesus. They were all like, No :|

It was a Christian Scientist church.
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Could try and give there toddlers a stiffy all day just for a week as funny joke.
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I want nothing to do with those people. My last experience was being friends with a couple who turned out to be closeted swingers. I ended my friendship with them immediately.

It is a cult, there is no doubt about it. I worked with one and he was one of the strangest people I have ever met. He did not celebrate any holidays, but of course wanted to take all of them off. He also went on many "retreats" during the year and said that they were religious and didn't count against his vacation days! I had to cover his position every time he pulled this crap. Finally, they had enough and fired him. He came back the next day and said, "My wife says you owe me severance pay." The boss laughed in his face and thew him out of the building.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards,
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I've been working towards baptism due to my family all being Jehovah's Witnesses. I believe some things they teach but not everything. This week was the final straw and I'm telling my family that I'm out.

Why?

They were bragging that 99.6% of "Bethelites" are now vaccinated and that all Jehovah's Witnesses should get vaccinated too because "Jehovah would never allow bad things to happen to his people."

I was shocked because one of the "Governing body" gave a weird speech that literally sounded like a New World Order speech.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70015732


and OP.. Jehovah is not God.. it is the name of planet that orbits Alcyone.. and its People did the god stuff like fry Sodom and Gomorrah.. gave 20 commandments not 10... and lead MOses out of the wilderness. Very advanced planetary people that babysits earth at times.
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You did way too much acid and your posts are the result.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards,
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Re: I've lost ALL my respect for the Jehovah's Witnesses "the society" as they call it
My parents joined this group when I was a kid. Everything changed for me. I might have left the family and organization as a teenager, but all the bible teachings stick to me this day. I still call my dad every week and he is 89 years old.

We discussed the shot and the "Mark of the Beast" stuff and he agreed. The next weekend we talked he told me he got the shot and the group is encouraging it.

I am devastated.
 Quoting: JohnnyMullet


They share a hive mind, he had no choice.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards,
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I've been working towards baptism due to my family all being Jehovah's Witnesses. I believe some things they teach but not everything. This week was the final straw and I'm telling my family that I'm out.

Why?

They were bragging that 99.6% of "Bethelites" are now vaccinated and that all Jehovah's Witnesses should get vaccinated too because "Jehovah would never allow bad things to happen to his people."

I was shocked because one of the "Governing body" gave a weird speech that literally sounded like a New World Order speech.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70015732


Roman Catholicism is the true faith, the one going all the way back to the apostles. Boniface X is the true pope. See www.romancatholicism.org
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I've been working towards baptism due to my family all being Jehovah's Witnesses. I believe some things they teach but not everything. This week was the final straw and I'm telling my family that I'm out.

Why?

They were bragging that 99.6% of "Bethelites" are now vaccinated and that all Jehovah's Witnesses should get vaccinated too because "Jehovah would never allow bad things to happen to his people."

I was shocked because one of the "Governing body" gave a weird speech that literally sounded like a New World Order speech.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70015732


Roman Catholicism is the true faith, the one going all the way back to the apostles. Boniface X is the true pope. See www.romancatholicism.org
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80485422


No it's not. Orthodox Christianity is the original. Roman Catholicism is a branch of that. Look it up. You've been lied to.
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They are now advocating the mark of the beast?? I am shocked. Their tax exempt status has probably been threatened. Money has become their god.
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Re: I've lost ALL my respect for the Jehovah's Witnesses "the society" as they call it
I've been working towards baptism due to my family all being Jehovah's Witnesses. I believe some things they teach but not everything. This week was the final straw and I'm telling my family that I'm out.

Why?

They were bragging that 99.6% of "Bethelites" are now vaccinated and that all Jehovah's Witnesses should get vaccinated too because "Jehovah would never allow bad things to happen to his people."

I was shocked because one of the "Governing body" gave a weird speech that literally sounded like a New World Order speech.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70015732


Roman Catholicism is the true faith, the one going all the way back to the apostles. Boniface X is the true pope. See www.romancatholicism.org
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80485422


Jesus is the true Pope.

St. Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Pope = papa = father

All other popes are false.
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It is actually worse. Now the Watchtower is threatening elders with being disfellowshipped if they voice any dissent. Copy of the letter on my site

[link to e-watchman.com (secure)]
"Jehovah is a manly person of war. Jehovah is his name." Exodus 15:3





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