American Politicians and Investors Allowed China To Build a House of Cards. . . | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80671650 Singapore 07/29/2021 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Wall Street this week received a shock lesson in “capitalism with Chinese characteristics,” as Beijing’s preferred market setup is often described. The shares of many Chinese companies listed in New York and other foreign markets plummeted because it turns out that model never involved much actual capitalism." [link to www.wsj.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80678389 United States 07/30/2021 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this shot across the bow the reason that Biden has gone all in with mask mandates, lockdowns, and forced vaccination? I think this was them signalling to Biden that he needs to get moving according to work he was installed to do, and this may be why we are seeing him pushing the envelope with the requirements on the federal workforce. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80678389 United States 07/30/2021 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From Conclusion: “PRC-domiciled VIEs are contract-based investment structures engineered to enable non-PRC investors’ de facto control over PRC businesses in contravention of Chinese FDI restrictions. Contracts made to circumvent existing PRC law are not enforceable, and the VIE structure has yet to be explicitly approved by the CCP. Further, typical shareholder safeguards do not protect the rights of US investors in a VIE arrangement. By not directly addressing the legality of VIE or the validity of its underlying contracts, the PRC government reserves for itself the right to declare its position at a later date, creating substantial unpredictability for US investors. The SEC is encouraged to take immediate precautionary actions to protect US investors from the unique and under-appreciated legal risks of investing in PRC-domiciled VIEs.” [link to ir.lawnet.fordham.edu (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80678389 United States 07/30/2021 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “Every V.I.E. company – Baidu, Sina, Alibaba, Tudou, all of them – is operating by the grace of their Chinese partners. This mess is going to make Enron look like a trivial, little drop in the bucket.” ---Steve Dickinson, partner at the international law firm Harris and Moure, and author of Chinalawblog.com |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79657681 United States 07/30/2021 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . . .in America's financial markets, while fire-walling and defending China's, as American investors were duped into building China's industry and tech with no ownership and stake in the actual assets, using offshore financial instruments as the conduit. China just fired a shot across the bow threatening to collapse the entire house of cards, and sever the ties that bind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80671650 Those who invested in Chinese businesses will have the last laugh in a few years. And you can bet your bottom dollar that the 'elites' know what's coming. China might just be the big boat that will save those whoever jumped aboard. Deagel forecast basically showed all the countries tied to the satanic banker system (US, UK, AU, Germany, etc) will suffer huge financial and population loss by 2025. All the countries that insulated themselves from the satanic nations will do well. Maybe God is about to act? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80678389 United States 07/30/2021 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . . .in America's financial markets, while fire-walling and defending China's, as American investors were duped into building China's industry and tech with no ownership and stake in the actual assets, using offshore financial instruments as the conduit. China just fired a shot across the bow threatening to collapse the entire house of cards, and sever the ties that bind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80671650 Those who invested in Chinese businesses will have the last laugh in a few years. And you can bet your bottom dollar that the 'elites' know what's coming. China might just be the big boat that will save those whoever jumped aboard. Deagel forecast basically showed all the countries tied to the satanic banker system (US, UK, AU, Germany, etc) will suffer huge financial and population loss by 2025. All the countries that insulated themselves from the satanic nations will do well. Maybe God is about to act? It doesn't get more Satanic the the Chicoms. Your "logic" doesn't track. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80678389 United States 07/30/2021 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "More than 150 China-based companies with a combined market value of $1.2 trillion2 were listed on U.S. stock exchanges at the end of 2019. As more China-based companies have listed in the U.S., there has been growing concern about the lack of transparency into accounting and governance standards of Chinese firms, which policymakers and certain market participants have warned put U.S. investors at increased risk because of the inability of the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board (PCAOB) to inspect audit work and practices of PCAOB-registered auditing firms in China (including Hong Kong-based audit firms, to the extent their audit clients have operations in mainland China) with respect to their audit work of U.S.-listed companies with operations in China." [link to www.sec.gov (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80678389 United States 07/30/2021 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think that this is a major component of the military strategy composed by the Chicoms and the globalists and dovetails with the covid-19 attack, both in terms of disabling America from reacting and responding to the initial attack, and in terms of launching the second barrage against the west in an economic manner, once America has been sufficiently weakened by the edicts and mandates being imposed by compromised western politicians. |
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User ID: 80365283 United States 07/30/2021 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a potentially worse disaster than credit default swaps. China could decided to gank U.S. investors at any time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80678389 Credit Default Swaps were not a disaster. They were a huge success, a way to bet on other disasters (credit defaults!) This could well be a disaster if you're invested in those things. It's not our national problem to protect investors in those foreign assets. If you don't like them, don't own them! . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80680251 China 07/30/2021 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a potentially worse disaster than credit default swaps. China could decided to gank U.S. investors at any time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80678389 Credit Default Swaps were not a disaster. They were a huge success, a way to bet on other disasters (credit defaults!) This could well be a disaster if you're invested in those things. It's not our national problem to protect investors in those foreign assets. If you don't like them, don't own them! I meant mortgage backed securities, but the two are closely linked. One might argue that those who were pulling the plug used the credit default swaps as a way to protect themselves as they pulled the plug on others. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80680251 China 07/30/2021 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a potentially worse disaster than credit default swaps. China could decided to gank U.S. investors at any time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80678389 Credit Default Swaps were not a disaster. They were a huge success, a way to bet on other disasters (credit defaults!) This could well be a disaster if you're invested in those things. It's not our national problem to protect investors in those foreign assets. If you don't like them, don't own them! I'm betting you change your tune, if and when this latest weapon is unleashed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80680334 Russia 07/30/2021 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a potentially worse disaster than credit default swaps. China could decided to gank U.S. investors at any time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80678389 Credit Default Swaps were not a disaster. They were a huge success, a way to bet on other disasters (credit defaults!) This could well be a disaster if you're invested in those things. It's not our national problem to protect investors in those foreign assets. If you don't like them, don't own them! It is a national problem when it creates a national security issue, which it has in various ways. The whole reason that these these V.I.E.s were created has to do with how China is smart enough to prevent direct foreign investment into their capital markets. Don't you see how lop-sided this thing has been allowed to become, at the danger of the general welfare of the American people? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80680334 Russia 07/30/2021 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want to see what industries the Chicoms view as having the potential to be weaponized, then just look at the areas in which they, themselves, limit and restrict direct foreign investment. This includes food, fuel, media, education, manufacturing, medicine, mining, and technology. Aren't these some of the same industries in America that the American government has allowed the Chinese communists to directly invest in, and isn't it this direct investment that is having a crucial impact on the lives of Americans, particularly now that they have installed their bagman, Biden? Why was China allowed to protect their industries from direct foreign investment, but American leaders did nothing to stop an obvious adversary from doing what the Chinese communist sought to protect themselves from. This can't be mere incompetence and lack of foresight. Did it have anything to do with people like Biden, who've been their for 50 years, writing this nation's laws? What about the administrative state? What was their role in this lop-sided arrangement? They can't be that dumb either. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80683656 Venezuela 07/31/2021 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “The relationship between the United States and China will shape the 21st century, which makes it as important as any bilateral relationship in the world,” U.S. President Barack Obama said. “That reality must underpin our partnership.” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80685743 Spain 08/01/2021 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is one of the interesting developments that was allowed to transpire as China was being admitted into the WTO, while the American people were distracted by events September 11th, 2001. When the financial September 11th, 2007 happened, much of the economic turmoil in America was used ton convince investors that moving into the Chinese market was a good place to go, all while Barrack Hussein Obama and many other cohorts were telling the west that what they are seeing is China's inevitable rise, that this is the new normal, and it would take a magic wand to bring back western industry. Disgusting how all of this has gone down, and how it was sold to the people. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80685484 United States 08/02/2021 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)] Coincidence? I think not. Will that discussion also be published. Highly doubtful. Thread: Look At Who Biden's Handlers Have Conducting Diplomacy With China |