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URGENT: FDA trying to push anti-supplement policy by next year

 
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What's next, banning foods rich in nutrients?
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YES.

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Right?

Why are we paying taxes (or anything else, for that matter), if we don't get to use, eat, do, or think as we choose?

I'm not buying or paying for government mandated shit.

Looks like I will have nothing and like it, just as Klaus Schwab said I would.
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They want you dead!
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^^This.

This Government is pure evil!
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THIS JUST IN !!

IN A NEW STUDY FUNDED BY MONSANTO AND PFIZER IT HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED THAT VITAMIN A AKA ALPHA\ BETA CAROTENE , PREVIOUSLY BELIEVED TO BE A NECESSARY NUTRIENT THAT DESTROYS BACTERIA AND VIRUSES M, IS NOW LETHAL TO HUMANS EVEN IN SMALL QUANTITIES .

EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY : NAY FOOD THAT IS KNOWN TO CONTAIN THIS OFFENSIVE COMPOUND IS TO BECOME ILLEGAL IMMEDIATELY INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO CARROTS , YAMS AND ALL ORANGE COLORED VEGETABLES . SPINACH , LETTUCES , KALE AND ALL GREEN VEGETABLES AND EGGS AND SALMON .

IF YOU HAPPEN TO SEE ANY OF THESE NOW CRIMINALIZED SUBSTANCES CONTACT THE AUTHORTIES IMMEDIATELY TO MAKE SURE THESE ENEMIES OF THE STATE CANT CONTAMINATE THE CITIZENRY .
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Crush these scum.
Refuse to internalize their dark vision.
Decree your own SOVEREIGNTY with STRONG WILL>>>
Those decrepit demons are not the master of your Destiny...
YOU are.
So claim it and act like it





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bottom line, the system makes money when people are sick. A lifetime of servitude to meds and medical treatments is where the $$$$ is at. This is why we can fit a micro-processor on the head of a pin, but cannot cure cancer. There is no $$$$ in cures and self-health. this is why the system hates supplements....cuz they cannot control them.
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ANd your doctor, guess what he is running a business. He really doesn't want you well. He wants to keep treating you. That is how he makes money!

Even veterinarians are becoming nazi like. I adopted a 10 year old Pekinese, which is totally an indoor dog. Since I adopted him from the shelter, they make you sign an agreement to neuter the animal in 30 days.

So I took him in and I told them he had already been vaccinated. The vet wanted to know if I wanted his due claws removed since he would be under, and she could clip his little nasals because Pekinese are known for snoring. I was like are you crazy. When I did go to pick him up they had vaccinated him again. Which can be harmful. That's when I went off on them.

Telling you, even vets don't care it's all about the $$.
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Are there really still idiots out there who think its all about COVID???

Its so much more, its a tool they use...
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They have been saying this for years and big pharma does not like humans taking vitamins or supplements, big pharma wants all humans sick and buy their medicine only.
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bottom line, the system makes money when people are sick. A lifetime of servitude to meds and medical treatments is where the $$$$ is at. This is why we can fit a micro-processor on the head of a pin, but cannot cure cancer. There is no $$$$ in cures and self-health. this is why the system hates supplements....cuz they cannot control them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80007429


We can cure cancer. That's obvious. Pharma will not, even if they could. I'd consider buying shit from big pharma, but I'll never get a prescription, so if I can't buy it in a store or on the street, I'll do without.

Living under a master is not living. We all have the option to die. We also can choose the manner of our dying. I make no choices for others, but I'll never beg for prescriptions to buy anything.

The FDA was started to insure pure drugs and pure cosmetics, and that they be labelled accurately. That's their proper mission - nothing more.
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by next year millions will be in their death knell grasping for anything to save them.

Too late.

CODEX ALIMENTARIUS.
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Yep! They want you sick and dying from a simple cold so you will take what ever poisonous shot Big Pharma comes up with. Heaven forbid you supplement your diet so you have strong immune system and don't need their poisonous shots and don't want to be under permanent lock down like a bubble boy for the rest of your life and living under their tyrannical medical rule.
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Big Pharma requires you to be permanently sick in order to make money off your sickness so no supplements nor healthy food allowed for you.
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I say its about time to ride.
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They tried to take the NAC off the market when Docs figured out it melts the Graphene Oxide & rids the body of it. But Docs complained & said not to do it it was helping the vax injured patients.

Iherb dot com, still has it! Amazon took theirs off, they don't offer it anymore.
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What's next, banning foods rich in nutrients?
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Yup, and they are starting with meat.

Then after that is gone, they will target fruits and vegetables.

The public will be given highly processed "human chow".
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They tried to take the NAC off the market when Docs figured out it melts the Graphene Oxide & rids the body of it. But Docs complained & said not to do it it was helping the vax injured patients.

Iherb dot com, still has it! Amazon took theirs off, they don't offer it anymore.
 Quoting: Justthefacts12345


It does not.

Nano-particles like graphene oxide cannot be eliminated from the body ....ever.

Thats why they are using it in the jabs.

Once those nano-particles enter your cells its already too late.
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AJwill be in a world of hurt. What will he hawk then?
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Yet another attempt to eliminate small businesses. The pandemic didn't kill enough small businesses so they are taking another swing.
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DONT LET THEM DISTRACT YOU! THEY CANNOT! ALL THEY ARE DOING IS TRYING NOT TO HANG FOR ALLOWING POISONOUS VACCINATIONS AND SWABS...
They have us completely surrounded...those poor bastards
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Codex Alimentarius. Look it up. All to plan.

They are GMO'ing foods across the globe to remove nutrients and minerals. They want a sickly population dependent on them for sustenance.
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Overview

The FDA could be preparing to unleash an anti-supplement policy as early as next year that could eliminate tens of thousands of products from the market—in the middle of a pandemic. Action Alert!

Recently, the FDA announced that, by the end of June 2022, it plans to release drafts or final versions of a number of policies, and among them is the “new dietary ingredient” (NDI) guidance (“new supplement” guidance, in plain English). It is no exaggeration to say that this is the most dangerous threat to supplements we’ve seen in decades. We must continue to vehemently oppose the guidance as currently written and demand that substantial changes are made before the final version is released. It is especially dangerous given that we are in a pandemic situation that is constantly evolving, with scientists warning of viral variants that evade vaccine-induced immunity.

Here is some brief background. Under the Dietary Health and Supplement Education Act (DSHEA), any dietary supplement introduced to the market in the US after 1994 is considered “new” (an NDI) and the manufacturer must notify the FDA at least seventy-five days in advance of marketing the product. In implementing this policy, however, the FDA has turned a simple notification procedure into a de facto pre-approval process akin to that which is required of pharmaceutical drugs.

The FDA’s policy is nothing less than a massive broadside aimed at crippling the supplement industry. How do we know this? An economic analysis estimated that the guidance would result in:

tens of thousands of products disappearing from store shelves;
an industry-wide cost of between $2 billion and $165 billion in animal and human product safety studies to comply with the FDA’s NDI notification protocols; and
the loss of between 55,270 and 104,475 jobs in the supplement industry.
How does the FDA’s guidance do this? First, the guidance imposes safety requirements on new supplements that are not even expected of drugs! The FDA’s guidance describes how to determine what kind of safety studies to submit with an NDI notification. The agency states that additional safety studies may be needed if the target population of supplements changes. For example, if a history of safe use has been established with adults, but a substance will be used in a dietary supplement marketed for young children, the FDA would require another NDI notification. Not even drugs are held to this standard: the FDA states that “most drugs prescribed for children have not been tested in children.”

Safety studies for supplements may sound reasonable, but just remember: requiring these studies is part of the FDA approval process for drugs. Drugs can afford them because they are patentable. Supplements are natural and are not strongly patentable, so if they are also required to conduct pre-market studies, they don’t have the same ability to recoup those costs. This will either force companies to go out of business or it will make supplements so expensive that they are priced out of the market. Supplements also have a consistently sterling record of safety.

The FDA is also broadening the group of substances that must submit new supplement notifications by adopting a loose definition of what it means for a supplement to be “chemically altered.” If a post-DSHEA ingredient has been present in the food supply and has not been chemically altered, it is exempted from submitting an NDI notification. The problem is that the FDA’s definition of “chemically altered” is so broad that only the most basic manufacturing methods would not “chemically alter” an ingredient. This language will stifle innovations in manufacturing and ignores the fact that new and more effective ways of producing supplements have arisen in the last twenty-two years since DSHEA passed.

There are even more problems with the guidance that interested readers can reference in our previous coverage of this topic.

If the FDA sticks to its timeline of June 2022, the release of the final guidance could seriously hinder our ability to stay healthy, naturally, during this pandemic. And using supplements to shore up our immune system against COVID is even more important as scientists learn more about the ability of multiple COVID variants to adapt and “escape” the immunity conferred by current vaccines and even natural infection. As noted in Science, “Such ‘immune escapes’ could mean more people who have had COVID-19 remain susceptible to reinfection, and that proven vaccines may, at some point, need an update.”

In light of these concerns, our friends at ANH International have wisely advised that we don’t rely exclusively on vaccines; we need a diverse array of tools to protect ourselves, including access to quality supplements. We can’t use these strategies if the FDA makes sure they’re out of reach. We must push back against this bureaucratic indifference to our health and well-being.

Action Alert! Write to Congress and the FDA to urge drastic changes to the NDI guidance to protect supplement access. Please send your message immediately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80007429


FUCKING COMMUNISTS!!!!

Everything they do is about attacking the very fucking people that put them in office... This is called a rogue government at this point... has been for awhile.

That dipshit John McCain tried pushing this anti-supplement bill for the ROTHCHILD'S back in the early mid 2000's or so, like they did to the UK.

I'm getting pretty sick of these tyrants. They want all power to come from them, and want no independent free thought or action.

Last Edited by Question EVERYTHING on 07/27/2021 05:38 PM
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Overview

The FDA could be preparing to unleash an anti-supplement policy as early as next year that could eliminate tens of thousands of products from the market—in the middle of a pandemic. Action Alert!

Recently, the FDA announced that, by the end of June 2022, it plans to release drafts or final versions of a number of policies, and among them is the “new dietary ingredient” (NDI) guidance (“new supplement” guidance, in plain English). It is no exaggeration to say that this is the most dangerous threat to supplements we’ve seen in decades. We must continue to vehemently oppose the guidance as currently written and demand that substantial changes are made before the final version is released. It is especially dangerous given that we are in a pandemic situation that is constantly evolving, with scientists warning of viral variants that evade vaccine-induced immunity.

Here is some brief background. Under the Dietary Health and Supplement Education Act (DSHEA), any dietary supplement introduced to the market in the US after 1994 is considered “new” (an NDI) and the manufacturer must notify the FDA at least seventy-five days in advance of marketing the product. In implementing this policy, however, the FDA has turned a simple notification procedure into a de facto pre-approval process akin to that which is required of pharmaceutical drugs.

The FDA’s policy is nothing less than a massive broadside aimed at crippling the supplement industry. How do we know this? An economic analysis estimated that the guidance would result in:

tens of thousands of products disappearing from store shelves;
an industry-wide cost of between $2 billion and $165 billion in animal and human product safety studies to comply with the FDA’s NDI notification protocols; and
the loss of between 55,270 and 104,475 jobs in the supplement industry.
How does the FDA’s guidance do this? First, the guidance imposes safety requirements on new supplements that are not even expected of drugs! The FDA’s guidance describes how to determine what kind of safety studies to submit with an NDI notification. The agency states that additional safety studies may be needed if the target population of supplements changes. For example, if a history of safe use has been established with adults, but a substance will be used in a dietary supplement marketed for young children, the FDA would require another NDI notification. Not even drugs are held to this standard: the FDA states that “most drugs prescribed for children have not been tested in children.”

Safety studies for supplements may sound reasonable, but just remember: requiring these studies is part of the FDA approval process for drugs. Drugs can afford them because they are patentable. Supplements are natural and are not strongly patentable, so if they are also required to conduct pre-market studies, they don’t have the same ability to recoup those costs. This will either force companies to go out of business or it will make supplements so expensive that they are priced out of the market. Supplements also have a consistently sterling record of safety.

The FDA is also broadening the group of substances that must submit new supplement notifications by adopting a loose definition of what it means for a supplement to be “chemically altered.” If a post-DSHEA ingredient has been present in the food supply and has not been chemically altered, it is exempted from submitting an NDI notification. The problem is that the FDA’s definition of “chemically altered” is so broad that only the most basic manufacturing methods would not “chemically alter” an ingredient. This language will stifle innovations in manufacturing and ignores the fact that new and more effective ways of producing supplements have arisen in the last twenty-two years since DSHEA passed.

There are even more problems with the guidance that interested readers can reference in our previous coverage of this topic.

If the FDA sticks to its timeline of June 2022, the release of the final guidance could seriously hinder our ability to stay healthy, naturally, during this pandemic. And using supplements to shore up our immune system against COVID is even more important as scientists learn more about the ability of multiple COVID variants to adapt and “escape” the immunity conferred by current vaccines and even natural infection. As noted in Science, “Such ‘immune escapes’ could mean more people who have had COVID-19 remain susceptible to reinfection, and that proven vaccines may, at some point, need an update.”

In light of these concerns, our friends at ANH International have wisely advised that we don’t rely exclusively on vaccines; we need a diverse array of tools to protect ourselves, including access to quality supplements. We can’t use these strategies if the FDA makes sure they’re out of reach. We must push back against this bureaucratic indifference to our health and well-being.

Action Alert! Write to Congress and the FDA to urge drastic changes to the NDI guidance to protect supplement access. Please send your message immediately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80007429



Yet vaccines with little to no short or long term efficacy and safety studies are being pumped into the populace. Makes perfect sense.

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They want us dead!!!! Period!
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All of us need to get books on how to grow our own herbs and medicinals.
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There's no way they can do this. The black market would take care of it if they tried. Also, the supplements contribute a huge amount of tax money. Everyone needs to relax.
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FDA has gone full Nazi.
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They don't want people having any control over anything!
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Have I missed something??

It seems they want to regulate processes that "chemically alter" natural supplements??

"If a post-DSHEA ingredient has been present in the food supply and has not been chemically altered, it is exempted from submitting an NDI notification"

So if they make , for example , "garlic oil" , in a lab via chemical synthesis , it requires submitting an NDI notification ???

Which is good thing , as chemical synthesis is BS and unhealthy, compared to nature.
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Red states have to secede

Do you want to share a country with these totalitarian statists?

Really even if we took majority control of fed govt

We simply have too little in common

I detest them
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How is this being allowed this is proof there trying to kill us
stop liberal propoganda
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What more proof do you people need that this isn’t about curing you but that this is about controlling us and allowing the politically incorrect to die?
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some how the vax shedding will harm non vaxed! probably before vaxed start dying! usa will be mandatory before 9 11
stop liberal propoganda





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