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AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."

 
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It isn't the end, Unum.

Get your preps in order. Shit's gonna get bumpy. Eventually the People will reach a breaking point.

Never forget how much they had to rig this. Audits are continuing and there will either be a loud roar from the People or lots of gun fire.

We know the gub'ment is still afraid of us. Why you think they trying to paint 70-80% of the population as domestic terrorists, trying to kill as many of us as they can in the name of science(death jab) through a scamdemic, the heavy censoring of real information, THREATENING US WITH F-15s AND NUKES, the list goes on and on these days with how desperate TPTB are getting.

Don't lose hope my brother. There is a fight coming and none of us know exactly how it will look but we all feel it in our core. BE READY!

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This whole Arizona audit thing is totally falling apart. No wonder the Arizona Senate President, who is responsible for the whole sham, is backstroking

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Seems the fraudit has delivered nothing and it's starting to backfire


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That's it. It's over.

Biden won again.
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If this is true, she seems to be wanting to be on the list....

The same list that ducey, hobbs, Maricopa BOS, Fuentez, Boyer, and Richer are on....

We are talking about a minimum of 107k fraudulent votes.
It doesn't include the number of ballets they are missing.
This is not a laughing matter that can be legislatively solved.

They need to resolve this fraud with actual criminal charges, and at least try to recall the electors by let the courts decide whether they have the right to do so.
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Cyber Ninjas and Fann tried to keep everything covered up and secret.

They just lost.

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“Fraud vitiates.” That’s not an explanation for anything. So, you discover fraud. What are you going to do about it?
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Arizona AG file criminal charges against the perps. Let them have their day in court. Treason holds a high punishment, if convicted. That’s why you see Katie Hobbs in full panic mode now. She knows she will be imprisioned very soon.
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That's super and all, but how do we address the unelected president who opened the border, destroyed our energy independence, dismantled our military, lifted sanctions on our enemies, gave Afghanistan back to the taliban along with several armories worth of weaponry, and invited the UN in to undermine our sovereignty?

At this rate, we won't survive until 2024. But even if we did survive, with no mechanism to correct fraud, it will happen every time. This is our LAST chance to save the country from tyranny.
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Constitutional crisis. The country has never been here before. I guess we find out how we deal with it then.
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Go ahead. Let time make your decisions for you. When in doubt, do nothing. Problem is you can’t keep your heroes alive. Trump was no hero or he would have joined the ranks of over 400 dead politicians.
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Cyber Ninjas and Fann tried to keep everything covered up and secret.

They just lost.


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Earlier Thursday, Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Michael Kemp rejected claims by Fann that documents in the hands of Cyber Ninjas, including who is financing the review, are not public records and need not be disclosed. Kemp rejected arguments that only documents in the Senate’s actual possession are subject to the state’s public records law.

“Nothing in the statute absolves Senate defendants’ responsibilities to keep and maintain records for authorities supported by public monies by merely retaining a third-party contractor who in turns hires subvendors,’’ Kemp wrote. He noted that Fann herself made statements that the audit is a public function.

Allowing those documents to now be shielded, the judge said, “would be an absurd result and undermine Arizona’s strong public policy in favor of permitting access to records reflecting governmental activity.’’

Significantly, the information the judge said should be released to the public includes who is financing the audit. The $150,000 the Senate agreed to pay Cyber Ninjas “appears to be far short of paying the full cost,’’ Kemp said.

“The public does not know who is financing the remaining costs,’’ the judge wrote.

“It is difficult to conceive of a case with a more compelling public interest demanding public disclosure and public scrutiny,’’ the judge wrote.
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Unbelievable. Her response is literally "If they broke the law to install fraudulent officials, we will turn it over to those fraudulent officials to correct."

Absolutely surreal. It's over folks. Republicans cave, even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Consent of the governed is DEAD. Welcome to tyranny.

Her attitude is literally "We need to write more laws to stop lawbreakers from breaking the laws."

NO - we need LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE DON'T NEED NEW LAWS - WE NEED OFFICIALS TO FOLLOW THE EXISTING LAWS.

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Exactly.

Everything and everyone- from dog catcher to the current President, Law Enforcement, judicial system, medicine, education, commerce, and most other fields- even religion- are ALL corrupt and have been compromised or bought out.

To the few Patriots mixed in who would still do right by the people, the Constitution and follow law and order, I applaud you and your efforts to help us and save what is left of our country. You are very few and far between, and I salute you.

However, there just aren't enough of you left to make a change for the better. And not enough of us regular folks are willing or able to stand up to help you. I'm sorry. We will now reap what we have allowed to be sown.

The U.S. has been infiltrated and destroyed by the very enemy- both foreign and domestic- who HATE us and our way of life. They swore to obliterate our society by making us weak and then moving in and taking over all key positions in government and other industries, until they controlled everything. They have done just that. And we let them.

Evil has won, imo.

Never thought I would live to see this moment. Wow.
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Cyber Ninjas and Fann tried to keep everything covered up and secret.

They just lost.


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Earlier Thursday, Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Michael Kemp rejected claims by Fann that documents in the hands of Cyber Ninjas, including who is financing the review, are not public records and need not be disclosed. Kemp rejected arguments that only documents in the Senate’s actual possession are subject to the state’s public records law.

“Nothing in the statute absolves Senate defendants’ responsibilities to keep and maintain records for authorities supported by public monies by merely retaining a third-party contractor who in turns hires subvendors,’’ Kemp wrote. He noted that Fann herself made statements that the audit is a public function.

Allowing those documents to now be shielded, the judge said, “would be an absurd result and undermine Arizona’s strong public policy in favor of permitting access to records reflecting governmental activity.’’

Significantly, the information the judge said should be released to the public includes who is financing the audit. The $150,000 the Senate agreed to pay Cyber Ninjas “appears to be far short of paying the full cost,’’ Kemp said.

“The public does not know who is financing the remaining costs,’’ the judge wrote.

“It is difficult to conceive of a case with a more compelling public interest demanding public disclosure and public scrutiny,’’ the judge wrote.
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Now why do you think Fann and Cyber Ninjas wanted to keep all their "audit" and financing records secret?

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Cyber Ninjas and Fann tried to keep everything covered up and secret.

They just lost.


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Earlier Thursday, Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Michael Kemp rejected claims by Fann that documents in the hands of Cyber Ninjas, including who is financing the review, are not public records and need not be disclosed. Kemp rejected arguments that only documents in the Senate’s actual possession are subject to the state’s public records law.

“Nothing in the statute absolves Senate defendants’ responsibilities to keep and maintain records for authorities supported by public monies by merely retaining a third-party contractor who in turns hires subvendors,’’ Kemp wrote. He noted that Fann herself made statements that the audit is a public function.

Allowing those documents to now be shielded, the judge said, “would be an absurd result and undermine Arizona’s strong public policy in favor of permitting access to records reflecting governmental activity.’’

Significantly, the information the judge said should be released to the public includes who is financing the audit. The $150,000 the Senate agreed to pay Cyber Ninjas “appears to be far short of paying the full cost,’’ Kemp said.

“The public does not know who is financing the remaining costs,’’ the judge wrote.

“It is difficult to conceive of a case with a more compelling public interest demanding public disclosure and public scrutiny,’’ the judge wrote.
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Now why do you think Fann and Cyber Ninjas wanted to keep all their "audit" and financing records secret?

1dunno1
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The "audit" that Donald Trump and his insurrectionist allies are running in Arizona is *so fraudulent* that the plotters tried to hide all the records about it from the public—after claiming for six months that all they wanted was transparency.

You can't make this shit up.

And they just lost in court.
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This is a fourth turning event.

Negating Biden's Presidency has never been the issue. Negating Biden's legitimacy has been.

1. Ossoff in Georgia is going to be recalled as Senator, rending the Democrats powerless.
2. 2022-2024 are going to be huge Red Waves.
3. Joe Biden will be known as a fraud President. He will have no moral authority outside the military zone in DC and NY/LA/SF/Chi.

- See the meaning of 'beyond the pale'

4. The Democrat Party is about to be destroyed as a National Political pary. It will be 30 years before they can realistically win the Presidency again.
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
The Arizona election audit began in April. It is now July. If they had found anything even slightly questionable, anything they could somehow twist into something somehow sounding questionable, they'd be shrieking about it.

They ain't got jackshit. And just wait until we see those audit and finance records they tried to keep covered up and secret.

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This is possibly the most important story in American History. Even with criminal fraud proven, the Republicans will do nothing to correct the damages, but instead will continue playing the same game by the same rules hoping that the criminals won't cheat next time.

Folks, it's over.
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Yup.
Well I am now officially at war with the US federal usurpers.

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This is a fourth turning event.

Negating Biden's Presidency has never been the issue. Negating Biden's legitimacy has been.

1. Ossoff in Georgia is going to be recalled as Senator, rending the Democrats powerless.
2. 2022-2024 are going to be huge Red Waves.
3. Joe Biden will be known as a fraud President. He will have no moral authority outside the military zone in DC and NY/LA/SF/Chi.

- See the meaning of 'beyond the pale'

4. The Democrat Party is about to be destroyed as a National Political pary. It will be 30 years before they can realistically win the Presidency again.
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They continue to vote after we execute them, you know.
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Laws no longer apply.

Anarchy.

Ok.
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Unbelievable. Her response is literally "If they broke the law to install fraudulent officials, we will turn it over to those fraudulent officials to correct."

Absolutely surreal. It's over folks. Republicans cave, even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Consent of the governed is DEAD. Welcome to tyranny.

Her attitude is literally "We need to write more laws to stop lawbreakers from breaking the laws."

NO - we need LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE DON'T NEED NEW LAWS - WE NEED OFFICIALS TO FOLLOW THE EXISTING LAWS.

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Go to 10:30 for the ultimate Republican cuckoldry.
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Lol what did you expect? What mechanism at law in this country exists to just oust a president from office???

Did you really drink so much Kool-aid that you thought Trump could just be “reinstated” or whatever?

The audits are just theater for the base and nothing more. If you think any differently, prepare to be disappointed again and again.
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So that's it then? Criminal fraud is allowed to stand, and an unelected president is allowed to dismantle the country for 4 years because we can't figure out which subparagraph and clause in the constitution allows us to fix fraudulent results?

If this is allowed to stand, there is officially no consequence for election fraud. The statute of limitations is 2 weeks before SCOTUS dismisses it on laches - and during that 2 weeks, they dismiss everything on standing.

I'll come right out and say it - if the federal government is demonstrated to be illegitimate, the AZ legislature and governor should declare that they no longer recognize the federal government's legitimacy and authority, regardless of what the illegitimate federal congress does.
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This is already gone to far, are u surprised?
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Fraud should obviate the electors, if AZ has the law saying electors must follow the popular vote.

If not, then electors are free to vote as they will, and nothing can happen.
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Proven fraud should vitiate the vote of the electors, since they voted based on data created by criminal fraud. State legislatures have plenary authority to select electors.
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The fine print requires the connection between required elector voting and the popular vote. Otherwise, this is how democratic republics operate.
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Unfortunately I think this is correct. The Supreme Court doesn’t even have jurisdiction I think, because the case is between the citizens of Arizona and the electors of Arizona, which is where the fraud occurred. There is no interstate argument here. Except going down the rabbit hole of governments being corporate entities and commerce clause violations, but that would open up a can of worms for the whole country
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Cyber Ninjas and Fann tried to keep everything covered up and secret.

They just lost.


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Earlier Thursday, Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Michael Kemp rejected claims by Fann that documents in the hands of Cyber Ninjas, including who is financing the review, are not public records and need not be disclosed. Kemp rejected arguments that only documents in the Senate’s actual possession are subject to the state’s public records law.

“Nothing in the statute absolves Senate defendants’ responsibilities to keep and maintain records for authorities supported by public monies by merely retaining a third-party contractor who in turns hires subvendors,’’ Kemp wrote. He noted that Fann herself made statements that the audit is a public function.

Allowing those documents to now be shielded, the judge said, “would be an absurd result and undermine Arizona’s strong public policy in favor of permitting access to records reflecting governmental activity.’’

Significantly, the information the judge said should be released to the public includes who is financing the audit. The $150,000 the Senate agreed to pay Cyber Ninjas “appears to be far short of paying the full cost,’’ Kemp said.

“The public does not know who is financing the remaining costs,’’ the judge wrote.

“It is difficult to conceive of a case with a more compelling public interest demanding public disclosure and public scrutiny,’’ the judge wrote.
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Now why do you think Fann and Cyber Ninjas wanted to keep all their "audit" and financing records secret?

1dunno1
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Why do you post as an ANONYMUS COWARD?

FO Loser

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Is loss of just Arizine electors enough to reduce Biden’s total below the threshold?
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Every state has the authority to recall electors this lady is either bought and paid for or a complete idiot.It was set up this way so to prevent fraud such as this.
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This is a fourth turning event.

Negating Biden's Presidency has never been the issue. Negating Biden's legitimacy has been.

1. Ossoff in Georgia is going to be recalled as Senator, rending the Democrats powerless.
2. 2022-2024 are going to be huge Red Waves.
3. Joe Biden will be known as a fraud President. He will have no moral authority outside the military zone in DC and NY/LA/SF/Chi.

- See the meaning of 'beyond the pale'

4. The Democrat Party is about to be destroyed as a National Political pary. It will be 30 years before they can realistically win the Presidency again.
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clappa
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If this is true, she seems to be wanting to be on the list....

The same list that ducey, hobbs, Maricopa BOS, Fuentez, Boyer, and Richer are on....

We are talking about a minimum of 107k fraudulent votes.
It doesn't include the number of ballets they are missing.
This is not a laughing matter that can be legislatively solved.

They need to resolve this fraud with actual criminal charges, and at least try to recall the electors by let the courts decide whether they have the right to do so.
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Yes or we are ruled and not represented.
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
The Arizona election audit began in April. It is now July. If they had found anything even slightly questionable, anything they could somehow twist into something somehow sounding questionable, they'd be shrieking about it.

They ain't got jackshit. And just wait until we see those audit and finance records they tried to keep covered up and secret.

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You are terrified and you should be.
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A little story about who —besides Arizona taxpayers— is really paying the bills to keep the Stop the Steal and "audit nonsense going. It’s all a grift.

They took a $75,000 second mortgage out on their home and donated it to Trump's "Stop the Steal" scam.

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Cyber Ninjas and Fann tried to keep everything covered up and secret.

They just lost.


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Earlier Thursday, Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Michael Kemp rejected claims by Fann that documents in the hands of Cyber Ninjas, including who is financing the review, are not public records and need not be disclosed. Kemp rejected arguments that only documents in the Senate’s actual possession are subject to the state’s public records law.

“Nothing in the statute absolves Senate defendants’ responsibilities to keep and maintain records for authorities supported by public monies by merely retaining a third-party contractor who in turns hires subvendors,’’ Kemp wrote. He noted that Fann herself made statements that the audit is a public function.

Allowing those documents to now be shielded, the judge said, “would be an absurd result and undermine Arizona’s strong public policy in favor of permitting access to records reflecting governmental activity.’’

Significantly, the information the judge said should be released to the public includes who is financing the audit. The $150,000 the Senate agreed to pay Cyber Ninjas “appears to be far short of paying the full cost,’’ Kemp said.

“The public does not know who is financing the remaining costs,’’ the judge wrote.

“It is difficult to conceive of a case with a more compelling public interest demanding public disclosure and public scrutiny,’’ the judge wrote.
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Now why do you think Fann and Cyber Ninjas wanted to keep all their "audit" and financing records secret?

1dunno1
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Why do you post as an ANONYMUS COWARD?

FO Loser

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Because I don't want to register, I'm not soliciting money and I'm not conducting an election audit.

Now tell us - why do you think Fann and Cyber Ninjas wanted to keep all their "audit" and financing records secret?
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The Arizona election audit began in April. It is now July. If they had found anything even slightly questionable, anything they could somehow twist into something somehow sounding questionable, they'd be shrieking about it.

They ain't got jackshit. And just wait until we see those audit and finance records they tried to keep covered up and secret.

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You are terrified and you should be.
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epiclol
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Every state has the authority to recall electors this lady is either bought and paid for or a complete idiot.It was set up this way so to prevent fraud such as this.
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It was her idea to start the whole fraudit.

It's a bust, secret audit and donation records must now be produced, they haven't found shit and she wants out as quickly as possible.
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Is loss of just Arizine electors enough to reduce Biden’s total below the threshold?
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No. The electors of at least two more states need to be overturned, but they'll tell you that Arizona is just the first domino.





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