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AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."

 
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YES THERE IS ITS CALLED PLENARY POWERS GIVEN TO EVERY STATE LEGISLATIVE BODY IN US IT GIVES FULL POWER OVER THE ELECTION PROCESS AND THE ELECTORS ARE CHOSEN THEY CAN DECETRTIFY FOR FRAUD THATWOMEN IS AN IMBECILE AND SHOULD BE REMOVED IMMEDITELY FOR CORRUPTION
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You are 100% correct.
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YES THERE IS ITS CALLED PLENARY POWERS GIVEN TO EVERY STATE LEGISLATIVE BODY IN US IT GIVES FULL POWER OVER THE ELECTION PROCESS AND THE ELECTORS ARE CHOSEN THEY CAN DECETRTIFY FOR FRAUD THATWOMEN IS AN IMBECILE AND SHOULD BE REMOVED IMMEDITELY FOR CORRUPTION
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If you say it in all caps it makes what you’re saying TWICE as true.
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
YES THERE IS ITS CALLED PLENARY POWERS GIVEN TO EVERY STATE LEGISLATIVE BODY IN US IT GIVES FULL POWER OVER THE ELECTION PROCESS AND THE ELECTORS ARE CHOSEN THEY CAN DECETRTIFY FOR FRAUD THATWOMEN IS AN IMBECILE AND SHOULD BE REMOVED IMMEDITELY FOR CORRUPTION
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You are 100% correct.
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It may be correct, but refusal to use the authority yields the same result as not having it. Maddening, isn't it?
From many, covfefe
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What is the law that says that?
Y'all keep saying it, please prove what you are saying is correct.
 Quoting: Confederate Soldier


There is no law, no mechanism, no recourse, to undo a presidential election. Simple as that. The election is over.

A law can not now be created because of the sore loser effect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73414918


You would need a constitutional amendment to fix this problem.

Not happening.

What you get is civil war.

Followed by a new United States or whatever is left.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78144147


A constitutional amendment could in theory be passed, but it could only apply to future elections.

It couldn't be retroactive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73414918


I mean, in theory, you could technically do away with prohibitions against ex post facto laws altogether through amendment. But you’re right, Biden’s president and that’s all there is to say.
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
All fraud vitiates the election comes from the Supreme Court.
Fann hasn't caved, she is following the rule of law in Az.
If congress doesn't act, then the people have a right to take back our country.
Now all of you Monday morning quarterbacks need to get busy. Take back our country, or it is on YOU. I am doing my part.
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
I thought legislatures had all the power over elections?
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They do. Her refusal to acknowledge that authority is why we have an unelected president dismantling this country and several others.

And her attitude is "Awe shucks, no constitutional provision to fix this. Let's hope they behave next time."

My blood was boiling as I listened to her answer.
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


And Pence claimed he didn't have constitutional authority to demand an investigation of the eligibility of any states' electors.

And I don't see where Congress has that authority explicitly either.

So NOBODY has the authority to do anything. The difference is, the Dems do what they want, and the Reps keep waiting for permission.

Guess who wins under those rules?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365283


Yes. The founding fathers never envisioned this much less put provisions in place to deal with it.

They figured we'd be smart enough to know that when it gets this bad there's ultimately only one real solution and it involves building a new government after you take down the last one.
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She is right. There is no Sore Loser Provision in the Constitution for redoing the election.
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obviously not an American

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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
The Senate by itself cannot recall electors.

But the state's electors could be recalled
if both the Arizona House and Senate
voted to do so.

 Quoting: Buzzcheeze


Well 100’s of thousands of votes should not have been stolen/forged/taken fraudulently so there HAS to be recourse! That is ALL!
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ANYTHING based on FRAUD is FRAUD.
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
This is possibly the most important story in American History. Even with criminal fraud proven, the Republicans will do nothing to correct the damages, but instead will continue playing the same game by the same rules hoping that the criminals won't cheat next time.

Folks, it's over.
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


Well, that's the thing. There's been no proven fraud. Is there a court case you can quote? No you can't.
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She is right. There is no Sore Loser Provision in the Constitution for redoing the election.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79692569


You think it’s cute and funny that the pedoparty stole an election. Keep laughing. They will come for you next. What happens when you aren’t woke enough for the ultra liberals anymore and you want change in the regime but your elections are meaningless? You will comply comrade.
 Quoting: Rick Deez Nuts


Yes, there is….
It is right there in the Declaration of Independence:

“ Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -

-That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. “
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
All fraud vitiates the election comes from the Supreme Court.
Fann hasn't caved, she is following the rule of law in Az.
If congress doesn't act, then the people have a right to take back our country.
Now all of you Monday morning quarterbacks need to get busy. Take back our country, or it is on YOU. I am doing my part.
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FrAuD vItiAteS tHe eLecTioN

I love it when you guys come up with a big boy word and then start chanting it all in unison. As if it means anything or has some impact on what happens from here on out. Lol.

Biden’s your president. Either start getting used to it or better make sure the hopium reserves are fully stocked.

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YES THERE IS ITS CALLED PLENARY POWERS GIVEN TO EVERY STATE LEGISLATIVE BODY IN US IT GIVES FULL POWER OVER THE ELECTION PROCESS AND THE ELECTORS ARE CHOSEN THEY CAN DECETRTIFY FOR FRAUD THATWOMEN IS AN IMBECILE AND SHOULD BE REMOVED IMMEDITELY FOR CORRUPTION
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80307514


You are 100% correct.
 Quoting: Phoenix Light


It may be correct, but refusal to use the authority yields the same result as not having it. Maddening, isn't it?
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


I do also agree with that. I keep forgetting that these people loved John McCain. Cindy probably went after her.
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
Of course because she doesn’t understand law. These are the kind of people that think the governor can tell people to keep a store open and tell ya to cover your face.
It’s a Thorazine word party, with free Fluoride bubble gum.
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
This is possibly the most important story in American History. Even with criminal fraud proven, the Republicans will do nothing to correct the damages, but instead will continue playing the same game by the same rules hoping that the criminals won't cheat next time.

Folks, it's over.
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


Well, that's the thing. There's been no proven fraud. Is there a court case you can quote? No you can't.
 Quoting: NDFarm


These people exist solely in a far right echo chamber all day every day. To them, it’s a foregone conclusion that Hillary rapes children in the basement of a pizza parlor and George Soros drinks children’s blood.

Of course they believe fraud has been “proven.” Never mind the fact our judicial system hasn’t found anyone guilty. Their feelings and emotions are much more important than anything that happens in real life. Because they feel Trump should have won, any other result has to be fraud.
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
She is right. There is no Sore Loser Provision in the Constitution for redoing the election.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79692569


You think it’s cute and funny that the pedoparty stole an election. Keep laughing. They will come for you next. What happens when you aren’t woke enough for the ultra liberals anymore and you want change in the regime but your elections are meaningless? You will comply comrade.
 Quoting: Rick Deez Nuts


Yes, there is….
It is right there in the Declaration of Independence:

“ Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -

-That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. “

 Quoting: Flying Elvii


Hey dumbass,

Since when is the Declaration of Independence the same thing as the Constitution?

The Declaration of Independence isn’t even binding - its just a statement with no legal effect.

Far be it from me to tell a “Patriot” how his own fucking country works, lol.
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
Doesn’t matter what happens.

AUDIT GA, PA, WI, MI.

Societies public perception is all that matters. Logic is over.

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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
This is possibly the most important story in American History. Even with criminal fraud proven, the Republicans will do nothing to correct the damages, but instead will continue playing the same game by the same rules hoping that the criminals won't cheat next time.

Folks, it's over.
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


Well, that's the thing. There's been no proven fraud. Is there a court case you can quote? No you can't.
 Quoting: NDFarm


71% of the cases heard on merit ruled in Trump's favor:

[link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)]

The rest were dismissed on clerical BS (standing, laches, dismissed as moot, etc).
From many, covfefe
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
She is right. There is no Sore Loser Provision in the Constitution for redoing the election.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79692569


You think it’s cute and funny that the pedoparty stole an election. Keep laughing. They will come for you next. What happens when you aren’t woke enough for the ultra liberals anymore and you want change in the regime but your elections are meaningless? You will comply comrade.
 Quoting: Rick Deez Nuts


Yes, there is….
It is right there in the Declaration of Independence:

“ Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -

-That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. “

 Quoting: Flying Elvii


Hey dumbass,

Since when is the Declaration of Independence the same thing as the Constitution?

The Declaration of Independence isn’t even binding - its just a statement with no legal effect.

Far be it from me to tell a “Patriot” how his own fucking country works, lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80592455


Yet you’re so dense you missed the point. The government derives its power FROM THE PEOPLE.

Simple logic proves this.
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
This is possibly the most important story in American History. Even with criminal fraud proven, the Republicans will do nothing to correct the damages, but instead will continue playing the same game by the same rules hoping that the criminals won't cheat next time.

Folks, it's over.
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


Well, that's the thing. There's been no proven fraud. Is there a court case you can quote? No you can't.
 Quoting: NDFarm


These people exist solely in a far right echo chamber all day every day. To them, it’s a foregone conclusion that Hillary rapes children in the basement of a pizza parlor and George Soros drinks children’s blood.

Of course they believe fraud has been “proven.” Never mind the fact our judicial system hasn’t found anyone guilty. Their feelings and emotions are much more important than anything that happens in real life. Because they feel Trump should have won, any other result has to be fraud.
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Actually, it's the numbers and witness affadavits that convince me that Trump won. If you're not a troll, here's the rundown:

Thread: How we can be 100% sure that fraud changed the result of the 2020 election
From many, covfefe
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Engage
MILITARY

 Quoting: Buzzcheeze


BTW
They are ALREADY
COCKED AND LOADED
Audits Ignite Military Phase!
DoD To Remove Illegitimate
Joe Chinese Control of Executive Branch!

[link to rumble.com (secure)]
"TRUMP WON"
"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by"
'My ego is smaller than yours
Why is abbreviation such a long word
“When seconds MATTER, cops are only minutes away
"Cut out a man's tongue and you dont prove him a liar. It just proves you fear what he has to say"
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
Only legal votes are counted.
There was fraud.
Too bad the electors are going to be reseated due to those frauds.

When you're caught cheating you don't get to keep your ill-gotten gains.

Expect two presidents within the year.
Bidet is going to crack down on dissenters soon.
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Engage
MILITARY

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BTW
They are ALREADY
COCKED AND LOADED
Audits Ignite Military Phase!
DoD To Remove Illegitimate
Joe Chinese Control of Executive Branch!

[link to rumble.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Buzzcheeze


Don't count on it. The military is as compromised as any other institution.

Mark Milley is too busy organizing drag pageants and apologizing for being white to find time to care about this.

They're also purging conservatives, patriots, and anyone else who would have a problem with following an order to detain, fire on, or force inject an American citizen.

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BTW
They are ALREADY
COCKED AND LOADED
Audits Ignite Military Phase!
DoD To Remove Illegitimate
Joe Chinese Control of Executive Branch!

[link to rumble.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Buzzcheeze


Don't count on it. The military is as compromised as any other institution.

Mark Milley is too busy organizing drag pageants and apologizing for being white to find time to care about this.
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


Is that a fact
Step aside

"TRUMP WON"
"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by"
'My ego is smaller than yours
Why is abbreviation such a long word
“When seconds MATTER, cops are only minutes away
"Cut out a man's tongue and you dont prove him a liar. It just proves you fear what he has to say"
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 Quoting: Buzzcheeze


BTW
They are ALREADY
COCKED AND LOADED
Audits Ignite Military Phase!
DoD To Remove Illegitimate
Joe Chinese Control of Executive Branch!

[link to rumble.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Buzzcheeze


Don't count on it. The military is as compromised as any other institution.

Mark Milley is too busy organizing drag pageants and apologizing for being white to find time to care about this.
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


Is that a fact
Step aside

 Quoting: Buzzcheeze


I hope not, but that's sure how it looks. Are you suggesting that we do nothing, and hope that Mark Milley swoops in to save the day?

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like Q said military only path
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Screw Q.

That path was conceivable before Jan. 20. Trump still had nominal control of the military. If he'd wanted a stand, that was the time to make it. Where was Q then?

Trump wouldn't even do it from that much better situation. I don't think people should try it, for his sake, from the much worse situation now -- with the Dems in total control.

Just another way to get chewed up worse. Besides Trump left the Jan. 6 people to their terrible fate, saying he was for law and order. I wouldn't risk a parking ticket on Trump's behalf!

We're doing OK. We've slowed down the vax momentum, we've stopped some things in Congress. And we're protecting ourselves, which we SHOULD do. Trump never would do that.
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BTW
They are ALREADY
COCKED AND LOADED
Audits Ignite Military Phase!
DoD To Remove Illegitimate
Joe Chinese Control of Executive Branch!

[link to rumble.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Buzzcheeze


Don't count on it. The military is as compromised as any other institution.

Mark Milley is too busy organizing drag pageants and apologizing for being white to find time to care about this.
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


Is that a fact
Step aside

 Quoting: Buzzcheeze


I hope not, but that's sure how it looks. Are you suggesting that we do nothing, and hope that Mark Milley swoops in to save the day?
 Quoting: Depluribus Unum


Yeah that seems like an incredibly stupid course of action if you ask me...
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You think it’s cute and funny that the pedoparty stole an election. Keep laughing. They will come for you next. What happens when you aren’t woke enough for the ultra liberals anymore and you want change in the regime but your elections are meaningless? You will comply comrade.
 Quoting: Rick Deez Nuts


Yes, there is….
It is right there in the Declaration of Independence:

“ Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -

-That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. “

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Hey dumbass,

Since when is the Declaration of Independence the same thing as the Constitution?

The Declaration of Independence isn’t even binding - its just a statement with no legal effect.

Far be it from me to tell a “Patriot” how his own fucking country works, lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80592455


Yet you’re so dense you missed the point. The government derives its power FROM THE PEOPLE.

Simple logic proves this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80627649


Thats right.., We the people grant government their powers. Those scum shit sucking pos erected a fence knowing WE THE PEOPLE grant their powers. The normies are waking up, WeThe People can take their fucking away, they know this, their scared of us.
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Yes, there is….
It is right there in the Declaration of Independence:

“ Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -

-That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. “

 Quoting: Flying Elvii



Hey dumbass,

Since when is the Declaration of Independence the same thing as the Constitution?

The Declaration of Independence isn’t even binding - its just a statement with no legal effect.

Far be it from me to tell a “Patriot” how his own fucking country works, lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80592455


Yet you’re so dense you missed the point. The government derives its power FROM THE PEOPLE.

Simple logic proves this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80627649


Thats right.., We the people grant government their powers. Those scum shit sucking pos erected a fence knowing WE THE PEOPLE grant their powers. The normies are waking up, WeThe People can take their fucking powers away, they know this, their scared of us.
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I’m not a fan of Fann right now
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Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress."
like Q said military only path
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Screw Q.

That path was conceivable before Jan. 20. Trump still had nominal control of the military. If he'd wanted a stand, that was the time to make it. Where was Q then?

Trump wouldn't even do it from that much better situation. I don't think people should try it, for his sake, from the much worse situation now -- with the Dems in total control.

Just another way to get chewed up worse. Besides Trump left the Jan. 6 people to their terrible fate, saying he was for law and order. I wouldn't risk a parking ticket on Trump's behalf!

We're doing OK. We've slowed down the vax momentum, we've stopped some things in Congress. And we're protecting ourselves, which we SHOULD do. Trump never would do that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365283


Missed opportunity.





GLP