AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78544494 Canada 07/18/2021 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." this is the end game. you either accept it and eat shit or you rise up and give it your all. there is no peace delivered on a feather bed. you will fight which means you rise up from your comfort zone and get bloody. its your life, country, history, reality. which way western man. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80410174 United States 07/18/2021 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." THIS RIGHT HERE... [w]hile presidential electors are not officers or agents of the federal government, they exercise federal functions under, and discharge duties in virtue of authority conferred by, the Constitution of the United States. The President is vested with the executive power of the nation. The importance of his election and the vital character of its relationship to and effect upon the welfare and safety of the whole people cannot be too strongly stated. To say that Congress is without power to pass appropriate legislation to safeguard such an election from the improper use of money to influence the result is to deny to the nation in a vital particular the power of self protection. Congress, undoubtedly, possesses that power, as it possesses every other power essential to preserve the departments and institutions of the general government from impairment or destruction, whether threatened by force or by corruption.18 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73414918 United States 07/18/2021 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." The Senate by itself cannot recall electors. Quoting: Buzzcheeze But the state's electors could be recalled if both the Arizona House and Senate voted to do so. Every state certified the vote. No state can uncertify it now. There was a chance for AZ and every state to reject it. They didn't. Oh well! lmao |
DangerClose
User ID: 72527770 United States 07/18/2021 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." A little story about who —besides Arizona taxpayers— is really paying the bills to keep the Stop the Steal and "audit nonsense going. It’s all a grift. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77759082 They took a $75,000 second mortgage out on their home and donated it to Trump's "Stop the Steal" scam. https://twitter.com/_/status/1416778086993960960 Just because you quote some leftist wackjob does not make it a fact. It sounds more like an idiot(i use that word sparingly) who would take a mortgage out on their home and donate it to ANYONE. I don't care if it's to an orphanage...very unwise. I wonder who raised and educated his neighbor. But no, let's blame Trump. My posts that can be misconstrued as "extreme" and/or "radical" are satirical. #NoHymenNoDiamond #PoppedCherryDontMarry |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73414918 United States 07/18/2021 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." What do people expect is going to happen? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38652902 Biden is not magically going to be arrested and removed from office. Trump had the opportunity to do something while he was still in office in terms of insurrection act, martial law, etc. But he didn't for the obvious reasons because he knows he legitimately lost even if you take fraud like this out of the equation. Exactly. Trump yapped before the election and after. But never took any action. Well except for collecting donations from dumbasses. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45464097 United States 07/18/2021 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." You stupid Arizona republicans better not drop the ball. Again. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78709262 United States 07/18/2021 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." A little story about who —besides Arizona taxpayers— is really paying the bills to keep the Stop the Steal and "audit nonsense going. It’s all a grift. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77759082 They took a $75,000 second mortgage out on their home and donated it to Trump's "Stop the Steal" scam. https://twitter.com/_/status/1416778086993960960 Just because you quote some leftist wackjob does not make it a fact. It sounds more like an idiot(i use that word sparingly) who would take a mortgage out on their home and donate it to ANYONE. I don't care if it's to an orphanage...very unwise. I wonder who raised and educated his neighbor. But no, let's blame Trump. There is no shortage of dumb rubes that Trump is bleeding dry by soliciting donations. This one was just more monumentality stupid that most of them. This is cult of personality level shit. |
Reebl
User ID: 78211251 United States 07/18/2021 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." The Senate by itself cannot recall electors. Quoting: Buzzcheeze But the state's electors could be recalled if both the Arizona House and Senate voted to do so. Every state certified the vote. No state can uncertify it now. There was a chance for AZ and every state to reject it. They didn't. Oh well! lmao So are you happy now? If you are, you are a really fucked up person, and you call yourself an American? We don't ignore fraud, if you can than you are the enemy of the Republic. There is no fortune to be gained by a cure, there is however a great deal of profit to be made from treatments. ~Mark Twain If you want to live forever, live a life worth remembering. ~Bruce Lee You will find something in everything if you are looking everywhere for a thing. ~Reebl |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80627205 United States 07/18/2021 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." This is possibly the most important story in American History. Even with criminal fraud proven, the Republicans will do nothing to correct the damages, but instead will continue playing the same game by the same rules hoping that the criminals won't cheat next time. Quoting: Depluribus Unum Folks, it's over. It has BEEN over for generations. GLAD IT FINALLY SUNK IN! |
Confederate Soldier
User ID: 72548840 United States 07/18/2021 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." The Senate by itself cannot recall electors. Quoting: Buzzcheeze But the state's electors could be recalled if both the Arizona House and Senate voted to do so. Every state certified the vote. No state can uncertify it now. There was a chance for AZ and every state to reject it. They didn't. Oh well! lmao What is the law that says that? Y'all keep saying it, please prove what you are saying is correct. There's a man in a white house with blood on his mouth! If there's Knaves in the North, there are braves in the South. We are three thousand horses, and not one afraid; We are three thousand sabres and not a dull blade. :78g: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73414918 United States 07/18/2021 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." The Senate by itself cannot recall electors. Quoting: Buzzcheeze But the state's electors could be recalled if both the Arizona House and Senate voted to do so. Every state certified the vote. No state can uncertify it now. There was a chance for AZ and every state to reject it. They didn't. Oh well! lmao What is the law that says that? Y'all keep saying it, please prove what you are saying is correct. There is no law, no mechanism, no recourse, to undo a presidential election. Simple as that. The election is over. A law can not now be created because of the sore loser effect. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73414918 United States 07/18/2021 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." The Senate by itself cannot recall electors. Quoting: Buzzcheeze But the state's electors could be recalled if both the Arizona House and Senate voted to do so. Every state certified the vote. No state can uncertify it now. There was a chance for AZ and every state to reject it. They didn't. Oh well! lmao So are you happy now? If you are, you are a really fucked up person, and you call yourself an American? We don't ignore fraud, if you can than you are the enemy of the Republic. I'm happy and you are a whiney loser. Still no fraud proven. You and your ilk are the enemies for trying to undermine a presidential election. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80418298 United States 07/18/2021 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80473409 Fraud vitiates. That means we have constitutional authority to dismantle a fraudlent government. Watch and learn. “Fraud vitiates.” That’s not an explanation for anything. So, you discover fraud. What are you going to do about it? Arizona AG file criminal charges against the perps. Let them have their day in court. Treason holds a high punishment, if convicted. That’s why you see Katie Hobbs in full panic mode now. She knows she will be imprisioned very soon. That's super and all, but how do we address the unelected president who opened the border, destroyed our energy independence, dismantled our military, lifted sanctions on our enemies, gave Afghanistan back to the taliban along with several armories worth of weaponry, and invited the UN in to undermine our sovereignty? At this rate, we won't survive until 2024. But even if we did survive, with no mechanism to correct fraud, it will happen every time. This is our LAST chance to save the country from tyranny. Two things here: 1: Now we see Kim Clements two president prophecy in all it's glory now, didn't under stand at the time, but wow really makes sense now, and now I have a feeling Edgar Casey's prophecy is next we will be too weak to help out Europe when they enter there next war. 2: Now your getting it, why are they so adamant about keeping this current administration? Because they don't plan on having another election, by 2024 they plan on crumbling everything by then. One main thing that hinders that are the election law changes for the specific states ex: GA, AZ, FL, TX, etc... for the mid terms. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80418298 United States 07/18/2021 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." Unbelievable. Her response is literally "If they broke the law to install fraudulent officials, we will turn it over to those fraudulent officials to correct." Quoting: Depluribus Unum Absolutely surreal. It's over folks. Republicans cave, even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Consent of the governed is DEAD. Welcome to tyranny. Her attitude is literally "We need to write more laws to stop lawbreakers from breaking the laws." NO - we need LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE DON'T NEED NEW LAWS - WE NEED OFFICIALS TO FOLLOW THE EXISTING LAWS. [link to rumble.com (secure)] Go to 10:30 for the ultimate Republican cuckoldry. One of the stipulations that won the court battle to get the ballots and equipment from the county was that the audit would not be used to change the result of the election. The audit was to expose corruption, which it did. Any evidence of fraud will be turned over to law enforcement. I have a feeling this is the route it goes, so no future fraud happens, I guess this is the Dems payback for Bush's hanging Chad incident.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73414918 United States 07/18/2021 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73414918 Every state certified the vote. No state can uncertify it now. There was a chance for AZ and every state to reject it. They didn't. Oh well! lmao So are you happy now? If you are, you are a really fucked up person, and you call yourself an American? We don't ignore fraud, if you can than you are the enemy of the Republic. I'm happy and you are a whiney loser. Still no fraud proven. You and your ilk are the enemies for trying to undermine a presidential election. :china: Sweet home Alabama! Plenty of true conservatives saw through the con man a long time ago |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78144147 United States 07/18/2021 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." The Senate by itself cannot recall electors. Quoting: Buzzcheeze But the state's electors could be recalled if both the Arizona House and Senate voted to do so. Every state certified the vote. No state can uncertify it now. There was a chance for AZ and every state to reject it. They didn't. Oh well! lmao What is the law that says that? Y'all keep saying it, please prove what you are saying is correct. There is no law, no mechanism, no recourse, to undo a presidential election. Simple as that. The election is over. A law can not now be created because of the sore loser effect. You would need a constitutional amendment to fix this problem. Not happening. What you get is civil war. Followed by a new United States or whatever is left. |
condor819
User ID: 80267178 United States 07/18/2021 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." Surprised most of you are still missing this...now that Q (President Trump) is posting almost daily directly to the masses....what any of this criminals say is of NO importance...we are rapidly approaching the day that they will not be able to walk down the street...how do you think bret bair slept last night? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73414918 United States 07/18/2021 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73414918 Every state certified the vote. No state can uncertify it now. There was a chance for AZ and every state to reject it. They didn't. Oh well! lmao What is the law that says that? Y'all keep saying it, please prove what you are saying is correct. There is no law, no mechanism, no recourse, to undo a presidential election. Simple as that. The election is over. A law can not now be created because of the sore loser effect. You would need a constitutional amendment to fix this problem. Not happening. What you get is civil war. Followed by a new United States or whatever is left. A constitutional amendment could in theory be passed, but it could only apply to future elections. It couldn't be retroactive. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80307514 United States 07/18/2021 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." YES THERE IS ITS CALLED PLENARY POWERS GIVEN TO EVERY STATE LEGISLATIVE BODY IN US IT GIVES FULL POWER OVER THE ELECTION PROCESS AND THE ELECTORS ARE CHOSEN THEY CAN DECETRTIFY FOR FRAUD THATWOMEN IS AN IMBECILE AND SHOULD BE REMOVED IMMEDITELY FOR CORRUPTION |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73414918 United States 07/18/2021 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." YES THERE IS ITS CALLED PLENARY POWERS GIVEN TO EVERY STATE LEGISLATIVE BODY IN US IT GIVES FULL POWER OVER THE ELECTION PROCESS AND THE ELECTORS ARE CHOSEN THEY CAN DECETRTIFY FOR FRAUD THATWOMEN IS AN IMBECILE AND SHOULD BE REMOVED IMMEDITELY FOR CORRUPTION Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80307514 If you say so, lmao |
tamaracks User ID: 34769994 United States 07/18/2021 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." So the Arizona republicans are going to hand this over to Congress, the very same people that also benefited from voter fraud. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45464097 You stupid Arizona republicans better not drop the ball. Again. Do you realize that you are talking about John McCain's state? M-O-O-N That spells rhinos. Now, about the process of resolving this,,, the administration has broken every law, including denying people their constitutional rights. The deal was that without a bill of rights there is no UNION. There is no more constitution. That's how important constitutional law is. They are party to a contract with the people. When one side reneges on their contract, the whole contract is nullified. The states are the highest authority now. |
Helo
User ID: 79280147 United States 07/18/2021 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." Fraud should obviate the electors, if AZ has the law saying electors must follow the popular vote. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62226146 If not, then electors are free to vote as they will, and nothing can happen. Proven fraud should vitiate the vote of the electors, since they voted based on data created by criminal fraud. State legislatures have plenary authority to select electors. At the VERY LEAST, the State Legislature should note whether fraudulent votes put the Assholenaut Mark Kelly into office. The citizens of the State of Arizona sends the Senators to DC. Kelly supposedly only one by .4% of the vote, so I'm guessing Martha McSalley was the real winner. She should be reseated in the Senate, giving the GOP the majority, even with the two independents caucusing with the demons. "Peace in our time? All it took was everybody about to die." “The way I see it, there’s only three kinds of people in this world. Bad ones, ones you follow, and ones you need to protect.” - Amos Burton |
Depluribus Unum
(OP) User ID: 80132745 United States 07/18/2021 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." Fraud should obviate the electors, if AZ has the law saying electors must follow the popular vote. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62226146 If not, then electors are free to vote as they will, and nothing can happen. Proven fraud should vitiate the vote of the electors, since they voted based on data created by criminal fraud. State legislatures have plenary authority to select electors. At the VERY LEAST, the State Legislature should note whether fraudulent votes put the Assholenaut Mark Kelly into office. The citizens of the State of Arizona sends the Senators to DC. Kelly supposedly only one by .4% of the vote, so I'm guessing Martha McSalley was the real winner. She should be reseated in the Senate, giving the GOP the majority, even with the two independents caucusing with the demons. Agreed. The senate is not as important as the presidency, but selection of senators is determined entirely by the popular vote within the state - no electors, representatives casting votes, etc. They should also audit the house seats. It would only take 3 to flip the house - and the house controls budgets, the speakership, and impeachment. No popular vote = no senate seat. Simple as that. If they lose the majority in the senate, they can't ram things thorugh under reconciliation, and the nuclear option goes out the window. From many, covfefe |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80592455 United States 07/18/2021 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: AZ Senate President Fann: "We do not have the constitutional authority to recall the electors. We will turn it over to congress." OMG, it’s almost like this political theater all along! Like it was never intended to change the results of an election but just to keep the base fired up and keep the money flowing in to Vaxx Daddy Trump! My God! I never would have expected! And here I thought Trump was going to become president again two weeks from now! |