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Reality420
User ID: 49477262 United States 07/17/2021 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I could be wrong looking at a small image but it looks like you went with the "didn't stack" option. (Expecting a quick... "Yeah, I did stack...") In any event, as others have said, this ain't easy and without your software and expertise would be impossible. . 5 stars. R. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. — Thomas Jefferson Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action. — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
Pooka
User ID: 78247228 Canada 07/17/2021 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great to see you posting again!! Five stars for the good work! Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 07/17/2021 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro, is your camera rotating or is ISS rotating or both? If the camera is staying relatively still (no rotation) that footage makes no sense to me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80457416 The camera is shooting from an altitude azimuth perspective. The space station is therefore exhibiting normal field rotation. To avoid that I would have to align the telescope perpendicular to the plane of the space station's orbit. Instead I align it relative to the horizon. It's no different than watching a plane coming up over the horizon, crossing overhead, and appearing to turn as it goes towards the opposite horizon in the distance. The plane doesn't have to turn at all for it to look like it's turning relative to your position. Last Edited by Astromut on 07/17/2021 04:21 PM |
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Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 07/17/2021 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That came out nicely, Astro. Quoting: Reality420 I could be wrong looking at a small image but it looks like you went with the "didn't stack" option. (Expecting a quick... "Yeah, I did stack...") In any event, as others have said, this ain't easy and without your software and expertise would be impossible. . 5 stars. R. You're correct, I went with the didn't stack version after surveying a few people about which looked the best. I included a link to the stacked version in a pinned comment on the video though, so kind of a best of both worlds option. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76953217 Canada 07/17/2021 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the stabilized processed 4K footage from yesterday's ISS live stream. If you look closely you can see the new iROSA solar arrays installed by the Crew-2 astronauts (the sun glints off one of the new arrays midway through the pass), you can see the Crew-2 Dragon attached on the trailing end of the station (which is currently turned around for thermal reasons this week during a period of high beta angle) and if you look really closely you can even see the robot arm hanging out in front of the station. Looks like every nasa(not a space agency) footage I've ever seen.....fake. The fakery is so bad it is laughable that anyone can actually believe this nonsense. Great, then prove it. If it's so obviously fake, you should easily be able to prove it. Back up your claim against me or retract it. Your choice. You proved it is fake yourself. You can’t talk your way out of this. The space station can not be visible at night. At most a light source from the space station could be visible but you would not be able to see the actual space station. If you had a light source of say 100,000 lumens you could see the light source but you would not be able to see the ISS behind the light source. |
Astromut
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Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 07/17/2021 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the stabilized processed 4K footage from yesterday's ISS live stream. If you look closely you can see the new iROSA solar arrays installed by the Crew-2 astronauts (the sun glints off one of the new arrays midway through the pass), you can see the Crew-2 Dragon attached on the trailing end of the station (which is currently turned around for thermal reasons this week during a period of high beta angle) and if you look really closely you can even see the robot arm hanging out in front of the station. Looks like every nasa(not a space agency) footage I've ever seen.....fake. The fakery is so bad it is laughable that anyone can actually believe this nonsense. Great, then prove it. If it's so obviously fake, you should easily be able to prove it. Back up your claim against me or retract it. Your choice. You proved it is fake yourself. You can’t talk your way out of this. The space station can not be visible at night. At most a light source from the space station could be visible but you would not be able to see the actual space station. If you had a light source of say 100,000 lumens you could see the light source but you would not be able to see the ISS behind the light source. You're completely wrong. Yes the space station can be visible at night, as long as it has line of sight to the sun. And yes it can have that from 400 km altitude. |
plantop14
User ID: 80493075 United States 07/17/2021 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Awesome work Astro!!!!!!! What kind of scope and camera rig you using? I have a Celestron cpc925 w/an alt/azimuth mount!!! Just bought a William Optics Zenithstar 81 Doublet Apo w/.8 flattener/reducer......currently using a Canon 70D (astro-modded) dslr for AP!!!! Quoting: plantop14 Sounds like you have some very nice equipment. This was with an 8" LX200 classic and the camera was a blackmagic pocket cinema 4K shooting at prime focus with a 2X barlow. Yes sir, nice!!!!! The 8" LX200 would be a Schmidt right? And thanks for your contribution on here, love the work you do!!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71877050 United States 07/17/2021 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | an ak-47 bullet leaves the gun at 1500 mph this thing is traveling 18,000 mph try tracking a bullet with your telescope. and keeping it in the middle of the view. surprised the military isn't knocking on your door, plenty of countries would like to have that ability if you can track that you can track an f-35 going 1,200 mph at 60,000 feet(5 miles) and shoot it down don't sell out!! |
Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 07/17/2021 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Awesome work Astro!!!!!!! What kind of scope and camera rig you using? I have a Celestron cpc925 w/an alt/azimuth mount!!! Just bought a William Optics Zenithstar 81 Doublet Apo w/.8 flattener/reducer......currently using a Canon 70D (astro-modded) dslr for AP!!!! Quoting: plantop14 Sounds like you have some very nice equipment. This was with an 8" LX200 classic and the camera was a blackmagic pocket cinema 4K shooting at prime focus with a 2X barlow. Yes sir, nice!!!!! The 8" LX200 would be a Schmidt right? And thanks for your contribution on here, love the work you do!!!!! Yes, it's a Schmidt. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72233992 United States 07/17/2021 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have the Blackmagic raw file straight from the camera. I don't even know how to save videos in that format, I just pull them from the camera. I'm happy to upload it to cloud storage and let you forensically examine it for any evidence that I faked anything. I also live streamed my tracking of the space station. Feel free to explain how I fake that as well. Thread: ISS Tracking Live Stream 7-16-21 National Aeronautics' first director was a former Hollywood studio manager - not a man of science or rocket technology |
DiamondBlack
User ID: 22904541 Australia 07/17/2021 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You mean space garbage, compared with galactic history and what has been created and used during the exploration of existence. I've had recalls of previous lives before this devolved meat suit zoo, you haven't seen space craft or space stations yet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77798898 Canada 07/17/2021 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78809288 Looks like every nasa(not a space agency) footage I've ever seen.....fake. The fakery is so bad it is laughable that anyone can actually believe this nonsense. Great, then prove it. If it's so obviously fake, you should easily be able to prove it. Back up your claim against me or retract it. Your choice. You proved it is fake yourself. You can’t talk your way out of this. The space station can not be visible at night. At most a light source from the space station could be visible but you would not be able to see the actual space station. If you had a light source of say 100,000 lumens you could see the light source but you would not be able to see the ISS behind the light source. You're completely wrong. Yes the space station can be visible at night, as long as it has line of sight to the sun. And yes it can have that from 400 km altitude. Prove it, as you said mathematically, I’ll wait. oh and thanks for banning that IP address. You can’t win this argument and you know it so you resorted to the fact you are a forum admin to ban an IP to shut down the conversation. |
Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 07/17/2021 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astromut Great, then prove it. If it's so obviously fake, you should easily be able to prove it. Back up your claim against me or retract it. Your choice. You proved it is fake yourself. You can’t talk your way out of this. The space station can not be visible at night. At most a light source from the space station could be visible but you would not be able to see the actual space station. If you had a light source of say 100,000 lumens you could see the light source but you would not be able to see the ISS behind the light source. You're completely wrong. Yes the space station can be visible at night, as long as it has line of sight to the sun. And yes it can have that from 400 km altitude. Prove it, as you said mathematically, I’ll wait. oh and thanks for banning that IP address. You can’t win this argument and you know it so you resorted to the fact you are a forum admin to ban an IP to shut down the conversation. Also false, I haven't banned anyone on this thread. I'm not the only mod here and you are not entitled to know who banned who. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79399021 United States 07/17/2021 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the stabilized processed 4K footage from yesterday's ISS live stream. If you look closely you can see the new iROSA solar arrays installed by the Crew-2 astronauts (the sun glints off one of the new arrays midway through the pass), you can see the Crew-2 Dragon attached on the trailing end of the station (which is currently turned around for thermal reasons this week during a period of high beta angle) and if you look really closely you can even see the robot arm hanging out in front of the station. You all know he is filming this from our donations, LMFAO |
Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 07/17/2021 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the stabilized processed 4K footage from yesterday's ISS live stream. If you look closely you can see the new iROSA solar arrays installed by the Crew-2 astronauts (the sun glints off one of the new arrays midway through the pass), you can see the Crew-2 Dragon attached on the trailing end of the station (which is currently turned around for thermal reasons this week during a period of high beta angle) and if you look really closely you can even see the robot arm hanging out in front of the station. You all know he is filming this from our donations, LMFAO You realize I've had this telescope for 17 years, right? I used a stimulus check to buy the Blackmagic Camera, so no, I didn't even need any of my YouTube money to film this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79051161 United States 07/17/2021 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISS is extremely bright. The camera was set for an exposure of 1/1000s. Even at 25,600 iso you can't detect any but the very brightest stars through the telescope. The odds of the space station passing one of those stars during any given pass is very low unless you deliberately set it up that way. Since I'm just filming from home, that's unlikely to happen. This is the same reason you don't see stars in daylight footage of the space station, even when filmed in space. It looks fake because it's real! |
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Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 07/17/2021 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISS is extremely bright. The camera was set for an exposure of 1/1000s. Even at 25,600 iso you can't detect any but the very brightest stars through the telescope. The odds of the space station passing one of those stars during any given pass is very low unless you deliberately set it up that way. Since I'm just filming from home, that's unlikely to happen. This is the same reason you don't see stars in daylight footage of the space station, even when filmed in space. It looks fake because it's real! Well, yes. Reality doesn't care about your preconceived notions. When it violates those preconceptions, the problem is with you, not reality. |
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Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 07/17/2021 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astromut Great, then prove it. If it's so obviously fake, you should easily be able to prove it. Back up your claim against me or retract it. Your choice. You proved it is fake yourself. You can’t talk your way out of this. The space station can not be visible at night. At most a light source from the space station could be visible but you would not be able to see the actual space station. If you had a light source of say 100,000 lumens you could see the light source but you would not be able to see the ISS behind the light source. You're completely wrong. Yes the space station can be visible at night, as long as it has line of sight to the sun. And yes it can have that from 400 km altitude. Prove it, as you said mathematically, I’ll wait. Here you go. Midway through the pass, ISS was at a latitude of 25.5557 degrees N, a longitude of 84.153 degrees W and an altitude of 419,812 m. [link to drive.google.com (secure)] Using my moon and sun calculations spreadsheet ( [link to drive.google.com (secure)] ) I found that the sun should have been 15.17 degrees below the astronomical horizon (a plane 90 degrees from the zenith) as seen from ISS at that time: [link to drive.google.com (secure)] But now the critical question, how far below the astronomical horizon is the limb of the earth as seen from ISS? In other words, how much does the horizon dip as seen from ISS? First we calculate the distance to the horizon from the altitude of ISS: d = sqrt(h*(2*r+h)) sqrt(400*(2*6371+400)) = 2292.77 km Now we calculate the dip: tan(dip) = d/r atan(2292.77/6371) = 19.79 degrees 19.79 degrees > 15.17 degrees, therefore the sun is above the horizon as I am tracking it. Oh and that's even assuming it's about 20 km lower than it actually was. Last Edited by Astromut on 07/17/2021 06:12 PM |
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Garufal
User ID: 79964821 United States 07/17/2021 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the stabilized processed 4K footage from yesterday's ISS live stream. If you look closely you can see the new iROSA solar arrays installed by the Crew-2 astronauts (the sun glints off one of the new arrays midway through the pass), you can see the Crew-2 Dragon attached on the trailing end of the station (which is currently turned around for thermal reasons this week during a period of high beta angle) and if you look really closely you can even see the robot arm hanging out in front of the station. @ 3:34. Is that rocket fuel burning at the bottom? Last Edited by Garufal on 07/17/2021 07:33 PM A epiphany I had watering my lawn one day. "Karma is the universal judicial system that NOBODY is Immune from" -Me I LOVE good juicy gossip. Lay it on me. |
Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 07/17/2021 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the stabilized processed 4K footage from yesterday's ISS live stream. If you look closely you can see the new iROSA solar arrays installed by the Crew-2 astronauts (the sun glints off one of the new arrays midway through the pass), you can see the Crew-2 Dragon attached on the trailing end of the station (which is currently turned around for thermal reasons this week during a period of high beta angle) and if you look really closely you can even see the robot arm hanging out in front of the station. @ 3:34. Is that rocket fuel burning at the bottom? Not sure what you're referring to? The white thing at the bottom of the station is the Dragon capsule. |
Astromut
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