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Stabilized 4K Footage of ISS from my Telescope!

 
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That came out nicely, Astro.
I could be wrong looking at a small image but it looks like you went with the "didn't stack" option.
(Expecting a quick... "Yeah, I did stack...")
In any event, as others have said, this ain't easy and without your software and expertise would be impossible.
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Great to see you posting again!! Five stars for the good work!
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Re: Stabilized 4K Footage of ISS from my Telescope!
Astro, is your camera rotating or is ISS rotating or both? If the camera is staying relatively still (no rotation) that footage makes no sense to me.
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The camera is shooting from an altitude azimuth perspective. The space station is therefore exhibiting normal field rotation. To avoid that I would have to align the telescope perpendicular to the plane of the space station's orbit. Instead I align it relative to the horizon. It's no different than watching a plane coming up over the horizon, crossing overhead, and appearing to turn as it goes towards the opposite horizon in the distance. The plane doesn't have to turn at all for it to look like it's turning relative to your position.


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This is minde boggling

Who knew it’s all just one giant puppet show for the masses
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Re: Stabilized 4K Footage of ISS from my Telescope!
That came out nicely, Astro.
I could be wrong looking at a small image but it looks like you went with the "didn't stack" option.
(Expecting a quick... "Yeah, I did stack...")
In any event, as others have said, this ain't easy and without your software and expertise would be impossible.
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5 stars.


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You're correct, I went with the didn't stack version after surveying a few people about which looked the best. I included a link to the stacked version in a pinned comment on the video though, so kind of a best of both worlds option.
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Re: Stabilized 4K Footage of ISS from my Telescope!

Here's the stabilized processed 4K footage from yesterday's ISS live stream. If you look closely you can see the new iROSA solar arrays installed by the Crew-2 astronauts (the sun glints off one of the new arrays midway through the pass), you can see the Crew-2 Dragon attached on the trailing end of the station (which is currently turned around for thermal reasons this week during a period of high beta angle) and if you look really closely you can even see the robot arm hanging out in front of the station.
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Looks like every nasa(not a space agency) footage I've ever seen.....fake. The fakery is so bad it is laughable that anyone can actually believe this nonsense.
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Great, then prove it. If it's so obviously fake, you should easily be able to prove it. Back up your claim against me or retract it. Your choice.
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You proved it is fake yourself. You can’t talk your way out of this. The space station can not be visible at night. At most a light source from the space station could be visible but you would not be able to see the actual space station. If you had a light source of say 100,000 lumens you could see the light source but you would not be able to see the ISS behind the light source.
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This is minde boggling

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Here's the stabilized processed 4K footage from yesterday's ISS live stream. If you look closely you can see the new iROSA solar arrays installed by the Crew-2 astronauts (the sun glints off one of the new arrays midway through the pass), you can see the Crew-2 Dragon attached on the trailing end of the station (which is currently turned around for thermal reasons this week during a period of high beta angle) and if you look really closely you can even see the robot arm hanging out in front of the station.
 Quoting: Astromut


Looks like every nasa(not a space agency) footage I've ever seen.....fake. The fakery is so bad it is laughable that anyone can actually believe this nonsense.
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Great, then prove it. If it's so obviously fake, you should easily be able to prove it. Back up your claim against me or retract it. Your choice.
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You proved it is fake yourself. You can’t talk your way out of this. The space station can not be visible at night. At most a light source from the space station could be visible but you would not be able to see the actual space station. If you had a light source of say 100,000 lumens you could see the light source but you would not be able to see the ISS behind the light source.
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You're completely wrong. Yes the space station can be visible at night, as long as it has line of sight to the sun. And yes it can have that from 400 km altitude.
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Re: Stabilized 4K Footage of ISS from my Telescope!
Awesome work Astro!!!!!!! What kind of scope and camera rig you using? I have a Celestron cpc925 w/an alt/azimuth mount!!! Just bought a William Optics Zenithstar 81 Doublet Apo w/.8 flattener/reducer......currently using a Canon 70D (astro-modded) dslr for AP!!!!
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Sounds like you have some very nice equipment. This was with an 8" LX200 classic and the camera was a blackmagic pocket cinema 4K shooting at prime focus with a 2X barlow.
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Yes sir, nice!!!!! The 8" LX200 would be a Schmidt right? And thanks for your contribution on here, love the work you do!!!!!
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an ak-47 bullet leaves the gun at 1500 mph

this thing is traveling 18,000 mph

try tracking a bullet with your telescope. and keeping it in the middle of the view.

surprised the military isn't knocking on your door, plenty of countries would like to have that ability

if you can track that you can track an f-35 going 1,200 mph at 60,000 feet(5 miles) and shoot it down

don't sell out!!
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Awesome work Astro!!!!!!! What kind of scope and camera rig you using? I have a Celestron cpc925 w/an alt/azimuth mount!!! Just bought a William Optics Zenithstar 81 Doublet Apo w/.8 flattener/reducer......currently using a Canon 70D (astro-modded) dslr for AP!!!!
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Sounds like you have some very nice equipment. This was with an 8" LX200 classic and the camera was a blackmagic pocket cinema 4K shooting at prime focus with a 2X barlow.
 Quoting: Astromut

Yes sir, nice!!!!! The 8" LX200 would be a Schmidt right? And thanks for your contribution on here, love the work you do!!!!!
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Yes, it's a Schmidt.
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Re: Stabilized 4K Footage of ISS from my Telescope!
july is hardest time to view right, all the humidity depending on where you are.

January is least humid right, and the higher the elevation the better

you gotta get out of the city to see something like that i thought, all the light pollution
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Wow - that could never have the hell faked out of it
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I have the Blackmagic raw file straight from the camera. I don't even know how to save videos in that format, I just pull them from the camera. I'm happy to upload it to cloud storage and let you forensically examine it for any evidence that I faked anything. I also live streamed my tracking of the space station. Feel free to explain how I fake that as well.
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You mean space garbage, compared with galactic history and what has been created and used during the exploration of existence.
I've had recalls of previous lives before this devolved meat suit zoo, you haven't seen space craft or space stations yet.
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Looks like every nasa(not a space agency) footage I've ever seen.....fake. The fakery is so bad it is laughable that anyone can actually believe this nonsense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78809288


Great, then prove it. If it's so obviously fake, you should easily be able to prove it. Back up your claim against me or retract it. Your choice.
 Quoting: Astromut


You proved it is fake yourself. You can’t talk your way out of this. The space station can not be visible at night. At most a light source from the space station could be visible but you would not be able to see the actual space station. If you had a light source of say 100,000 lumens you could see the light source but you would not be able to see the ISS behind the light source.
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You're completely wrong. Yes the space station can be visible at night, as long as it has line of sight to the sun. And yes it can have that from 400 km altitude.
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Prove it, as you said mathematically, I’ll wait. oh and thanks for banning that IP address. You can’t win this argument and you know it so you resorted to the fact you are a forum admin to ban an IP to shut down the conversation.
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Great, then prove it. If it's so obviously fake, you should easily be able to prove it. Back up your claim against me or retract it. Your choice.
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You proved it is fake yourself. You can’t talk your way out of this. The space station can not be visible at night. At most a light source from the space station could be visible but you would not be able to see the actual space station. If you had a light source of say 100,000 lumens you could see the light source but you would not be able to see the ISS behind the light source.
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You're completely wrong. Yes the space station can be visible at night, as long as it has line of sight to the sun. And yes it can have that from 400 km altitude.
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Prove it, as you said mathematically, I’ll wait. oh and thanks for banning that IP address. You can’t win this argument and you know it so you resorted to the fact you are a forum admin to ban an IP to shut down the conversation.
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Also false, I haven't banned anyone on this thread. I'm not the only mod here and you are not entitled to know who banned who.
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Re: Stabilized 4K Footage of ISS from my Telescope!

Here's the stabilized processed 4K footage from yesterday's ISS live stream. If you look closely you can see the new iROSA solar arrays installed by the Crew-2 astronauts (the sun glints off one of the new arrays midway through the pass), you can see the Crew-2 Dragon attached on the trailing end of the station (which is currently turned around for thermal reasons this week during a period of high beta angle) and if you look really closely you can even see the robot arm hanging out in front of the station.
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You all know he is filming this from our donations, LMFAO
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Here's the stabilized processed 4K footage from yesterday's ISS live stream. If you look closely you can see the new iROSA solar arrays installed by the Crew-2 astronauts (the sun glints off one of the new arrays midway through the pass), you can see the Crew-2 Dragon attached on the trailing end of the station (which is currently turned around for thermal reasons this week during a period of high beta angle) and if you look really closely you can even see the robot arm hanging out in front of the station.
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You all know he is filming this from our donations, LMFAO
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You realize I've had this telescope for 17 years, right? I used a stimulus check to buy the Blackmagic Camera, so no, I didn't even need any of my YouTube money to film this.
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You could at least CGI some stars in
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ISS is extremely bright. The camera was set for an exposure of 1/1000s. Even at 25,600 iso you can't detect any but the very brightest stars through the telescope. The odds of the space station passing one of those stars during any given pass is very low unless you deliberately set it up that way. Since I'm just filming from home, that's unlikely to happen. This is the same reason you don't see stars in daylight footage of the space station, even when filmed in space.
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It looks fake because it's real!wtfdid
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Is it just me or does that look very very fake almost like a projection?
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You could at least CGI some stars in
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ISS is extremely bright. The camera was set for an exposure of 1/1000s. Even at 25,600 iso you can't detect any but the very brightest stars through the telescope. The odds of the space station passing one of those stars during any given pass is very low unless you deliberately set it up that way. Since I'm just filming from home, that's unlikely to happen. This is the same reason you don't see stars in daylight footage of the space station, even when filmed in space.
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It looks fake because it's real!wtfdid
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Well, yes. Reality doesn't care about your preconceived notions. When it violates those preconceptions, the problem is with you, not reality.
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Huge helium balloons hold that up. It's just going in a big circle with the wind
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Huge helium balloons hold that up. It's just going in a big circle with the wind
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Great, then prove it. If it's so obviously fake, you should easily be able to prove it. Back up your claim against me or retract it. Your choice.
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You proved it is fake yourself. You can’t talk your way out of this. The space station can not be visible at night. At most a light source from the space station could be visible but you would not be able to see the actual space station. If you had a light source of say 100,000 lumens you could see the light source but you would not be able to see the ISS behind the light source.
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You're completely wrong. Yes the space station can be visible at night, as long as it has line of sight to the sun. And yes it can have that from 400 km altitude.
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Prove it, as you said mathematically, I’ll wait.
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Here you go. Midway through the pass, ISS was at a latitude of 25.5557 degrees N, a longitude of 84.153 degrees W and an altitude of 419,812 m.
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Using my moon and sun calculations spreadsheet ( [link to drive.google.com (secure)] ) I found that the sun should have been 15.17 degrees below the astronomical horizon (a plane 90 degrees from the zenith) as seen from ISS at that time:
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But now the critical question, how far below the astronomical horizon is the limb of the earth as seen from ISS? In other words, how much does the horizon dip as seen from ISS? First we calculate the distance to the horizon from the altitude of ISS:
d = sqrt(h*(2*r+h))
sqrt(400*(2*6371+400)) = 2292.77 km
Now we calculate the dip:
tan(dip) = d/r
atan(2292.77/6371) = 19.79 degrees
19.79 degrees > 15.17 degrees, therefore the sun is above the horizon as I am tracking it. Oh and that's even assuming it's about 20 km lower than it actually was.
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I feel privileged bring able to see these videos. I expect that there's not very many people in the world that can do this. 5*
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it's astonishing, total respect for what you do and share
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:isscrew2:
Here's a little gif from the video.
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Awesome dude
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Here's the stabilized processed 4K footage from yesterday's ISS live stream. If you look closely you can see the new iROSA solar arrays installed by the Crew-2 astronauts (the sun glints off one of the new arrays midway through the pass), you can see the Crew-2 Dragon attached on the trailing end of the station (which is currently turned around for thermal reasons this week during a period of high beta angle) and if you look really closely you can even see the robot arm hanging out in front of the station.
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@ 3:34. Is that rocket fuel burning at the bottom?

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Here's the stabilized processed 4K footage from yesterday's ISS live stream. If you look closely you can see the new iROSA solar arrays installed by the Crew-2 astronauts (the sun glints off one of the new arrays midway through the pass), you can see the Crew-2 Dragon attached on the trailing end of the station (which is currently turned around for thermal reasons this week during a period of high beta angle) and if you look really closely you can even see the robot arm hanging out in front of the station.
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@ 3:34. Is that rocket fuel burning at the bottom?
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Not sure what you're referring to? The white thing at the bottom of the station is the Dragon capsule.
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I didn't steal anything you retard. I've had this scope for 17 years you fucking idiot.
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