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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77966316 France 07/11/2021 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How will people ever be saved if you never witness or pray for them? 1 Timothy 2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. I agree with praying for their repentance and salvation. But as long as they continue to worship a false master who claims to be superior to Christ, as is the case with OP, the question remains: If someone rejects Jesus as our Lord and Savior and instead worships a false master, will He answer prayers for their well-being? And when such a person passes away, what happens to them? You pray His will not ours. After all, we were once in darkness too and people prayed for us, at least they did for me. I thank God for those people too, some prayed over 40 years. They will be judged at the Great White Throne when the books are opened. Take this one step farther. Is a person is a practicing Satanist and he is on his death bed, would Jesus answer prayers in His name for his well-being? Or would He allow him to pass from this world for judgment? |
Furrry Pete
User ID: 80591153 United States 07/11/2021 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Furrry Pete How will people ever be saved if you never witness or pray for them? 1 Timothy 2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. I agree with praying for their repentance and salvation. But as long as they continue to worship a false master who claims to be superior to Christ, as is the case with OP, the question remains: If someone rejects Jesus as our Lord and Savior and instead worships a false master, will He answer prayers for their well-being? And when such a person passes away, what happens to them? You pray His will not ours. After all, we were once in darkness too and people prayed for us, at least they did for me. I thank God for those people too, some prayed over 40 years. They will be judged at the Great White Throne when the books are opened. Take this one step farther. Is a person is a practicing Satanist and he is on his death bed, would Jesus answer prayers in His name for his well-being? Or would He allow him to pass from this world for judgment? I don't know, His will not ours. If I knew him, I'd pray for him though to repent, Hell is a terrible thing. "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77966316 France 07/11/2021 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77170126 I agree with praying for their repentance and salvation. But as long as they continue to worship a false master who claims to be superior to Christ, as is the case with OP, the question remains: If someone rejects Jesus as our Lord and Savior and instead worships a false master, will He answer prayers for their well-being? And when such a person passes away, what happens to them? You pray His will not ours. After all, we were once in darkness too and people prayed for us, at least they did for me. I thank God for those people too, some prayed over 40 years. They will be judged at the Great White Throne when the books are opened. Take this one step farther. Is a person is a practicing Satanist and he is on his death bed, would Jesus answer prayers in His name for his well-being? Or would He allow him to pass from this world for judgment? I don't know, His will not ours. If I knew him, I'd pray for him though to repent, Hell is a terrible thing. I don't know either. Just a question. But yes, on top of everything else, I will also pray for OP and her husband to repent, turn away from their cult and false master and accept Jesus into their hearts. That master Li cannot save her husband. The Lord can. |
beeches
User ID: 78973486 United States 07/11/2021 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78229382 That's not going to work for a Falun Gong cultist. Christ would condemn her guru, "Master Li" Correct They actually believe Christians will give up their Bible and exchange it for the 9 lectures in the "Zhuan Falun". They actually believe Christians will give up their master, Jesus Christ for Master Li Hongzhi. [link to www.bible.ca (secure)] Mr. Li teaches his followers that illness is caused by the evil deeds of the sick person, in this life or a previous one and only can be cured by practicing Falun Gong. They also disguise it as exercise classes, non-religious relaxation, and meditation. They are known to ‘such people in’ using meditation classes to convert people then they learn that ‘Master Li’ is their creator. They have their own ‘Bible’ (called Zhuan Falun) of Falun Gong which is a collection of 9 essays penned by Mr. Li. Falun Dafa followers are not allowed to question the basic assumptions of the group. Mr. Li is an absolute, authoritarian leader with little if any accountability. Mr. Li claims to know ‘the top secret of the universe’ and teaches his followers that the earth would have been destroyed, but he saved it. [link to jesustruthdeliverance.com (secure)] Li Hongzhi stated ‘I can save all human beings to the bright world and I am Savior of the world standing higher than… Jesus Christ.’ Falun Gong is a religion of lies, a snare of the devil. It denies Jesus is the Son of God and Master and exchange Him for ‘master Li Hongzhi’! Jesus warned 2,000 years ago many false prophets will come and will deceive many (Matt. 24:11). The only true Savior is the Lord and God Jesus Christ – the Way, the Truth and the life – who came to save those who are lost.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80502813 Perhaps if you repent, OP, our Lord will hear those prayers. OP continues to proselytise for her cult and false prophet. Repentence and accepting Christ over that "Master Li" is the only way. Look at these threads that OP posts to try and convert GLPers Thread: Video introduction to Falun Dafa (Falun Gong) Thread: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) Thread: Falun Gong: In Their Own Words Thread: The Story of Falun Gong Thread: Falun Dafa is good! Following the goodness and mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, I wish your husband well, but I have difficulty praying to our Lord for someone who rejects Him and worships an anti-Christian false prophet. are those threads hers? Other names, other numbers associated with them. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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User ID: 78973486 United States 07/11/2021 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80499233 Correct They actually believe Christians will give up their Bible and exchange it for the 9 lectures in the "Zhuan Falun". They actually believe Christians will give up their master, Jesus Christ for Master Li Hongzhi. [link to www.bible.ca (secure)] Mr. Li teaches his followers that illness is caused by the evil deeds of the sick person, in this life or a previous one and only can be cured by practicing Falun Gong. They also disguise it as exercise classes, non-religious relaxation, and meditation. They are known to ‘such people in’ using meditation classes to convert people then they learn that ‘Master Li’ is their creator. They have their own ‘Bible’ (called Zhuan Falun) of Falun Gong which is a collection of 9 essays penned by Mr. Li. Falun Dafa followers are not allowed to question the basic assumptions of the group. Mr. Li is an absolute, authoritarian leader with little if any accountability. Mr. Li claims to know ‘the top secret of the universe’ and teaches his followers that the earth would have been destroyed, but he saved it. [link to jesustruthdeliverance.com (secure)] Li Hongzhi stated ‘I can save all human beings to the bright world and I am Savior of the world standing higher than… Jesus Christ.’ Falun Gong is a religion of lies, a snare of the devil. It denies Jesus is the Son of God and Master and exchange Him for ‘master Li Hongzhi’! Jesus warned 2,000 years ago many false prophets will come and will deceive many (Matt. 24:11). The only true Savior is the Lord and God Jesus Christ – the Way, the Truth and the life – who came to save those who are lost.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80502813 Perhaps if you repent, OP, our Lord will hear those prayers. OP continues to proselytise for her cult and false prophet. Repentence and accepting Christ over that "Master Li" is the only way. Look at these threads that OP posts to try and convert GLPers Thread: Video introduction to Falun Dafa (Falun Gong) Thread: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) Thread: Falun Gong: In Their Own Words Thread: The Story of Falun Gong Thread: Falun Dafa is good! Following the goodness and mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, I wish your husband well, but I have difficulty praying to our Lord for someone who rejects Him and worships an anti-Christian false prophet. are those threads hers? Other names, other numbers associated with them. and she has stated in a thread of hers that she is a Christian - just because someone stands up for a group, they have to be a member? perhaps you are one of the Chinese who oppress this group. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Furrry Pete
User ID: 80591153 United States 07/11/2021 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was under the impression that Lily is a Christian, but whether or not, I just find her to be an extremely caring person, not afraid to point out horrors occurring in the world. But whether she is or not, as a member of GLP and she requests prayers, I would never deny her or anyone else who genuinely asks. "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76555987 France 07/11/2021 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was under the impression that Lily is a Christian, but whether or not, I just find her to be an extremely caring person, not afraid to point out horrors occurring in the world. Quoting: Furrry Pete But whether she is or not, as a member of GLP and she requests prayers, I would never deny her or anyone else who genuinely asks. See all those links promoting Falun Gong? You cannot be Christian while accepting an anti-Christian "master" and being part of their cult. But I agree that we should pray for them, including their repentance and salvation. I pray that her husband has time to do that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77752735 Poland 07/11/2021 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was under the impression that Lily is a Christian, but whether or not, I just find her to be an extremely caring person, not afraid to point out horrors occurring in the world. Quoting: Furrry Pete But whether she is or not, as a member of GLP and she requests prayers, I would never deny her or anyone else who genuinely asks. Matthew 7:15-23 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. |
Furrry Pete
User ID: 80591153 United States 07/11/2021 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was under the impression that Lily is a Christian, but whether or not, I just find her to be an extremely caring person, not afraid to point out horrors occurring in the world. Quoting: Furrry Pete But whether she is or not, as a member of GLP and she requests prayers, I would never deny her or anyone else who genuinely asks. See all those links promoting Falun Gong? You cannot be Christian while accepting an anti-Christian "master" and being part of their cult. But I agree that we should pray for them, including their repentance and salvation. I pray that her husband has time to do that. I never thought it was promoting them, just pointing out that they do the same thing to them that they do to Christians. Some of us have had the same situation in our lives, a wife or husband near death in the hospital, and unless you too have experienced that, you can't even imagine the stress, etc involved, so let it be a prayer thread, plenty of other threads to contend about, thanks "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
beeches
User ID: 78973486 United States 07/11/2021 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was under the impression that Lily is a Christian, but whether or not, I just find her to be an extremely caring person, not afraid to point out horrors occurring in the world. Quoting: Furrry Pete But whether she is or not, as a member of GLP and she requests prayers, I would never deny her or anyone else who genuinely asks. See all those links promoting Falun Gong? You cannot be Christian while accepting an anti-Christian "master" and being part of their cult. But I agree that we should pray for them, including their repentance and salvation. I pray that her husband has time to do that. she is Christian, and you are a China apologist. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77752735 Poland 07/11/2021 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was under the impression that Lily is a Christian, but whether or not, I just find her to be an extremely caring person, not afraid to point out horrors occurring in the world. Quoting: Furrry Pete But whether she is or not, as a member of GLP and she requests prayers, I would never deny her or anyone else who genuinely asks. See all those links promoting Falun Gong? You cannot be Christian while accepting an anti-Christian "master" and being part of their cult. But I agree that we should pray for them, including their repentance and salvation. I pray that her husband has time to do that. she is Christian, and you are a China apologist. What do you call someone who is a member of a Chinese cult that accepts "Master Li" over Christ? |
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User ID: 78973486 United States 07/11/2021 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was under the impression that Lily is a Christian, but whether or not, I just find her to be an extremely caring person, not afraid to point out horrors occurring in the world. Quoting: Furrry Pete But whether she is or not, as a member of GLP and she requests prayers, I would never deny her or anyone else who genuinely asks. See all those links promoting Falun Gong? You cannot be Christian while accepting an anti-Christian "master" and being part of their cult. But I agree that we should pray for them, including their repentance and salvation. I pray that her husband has time to do that. she is Christian, and you are a China apologist. What do you call someone who is a member of a Chinese cult that accepts "Master Li" over Christ? the victim of a Chinese shill. Give up derailing the thread. You won't succeed. Last Edited by beeches on 07/11/2021 08:18 PM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50315633 United States 07/11/2021 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76555987 See all those links promoting Falun Gong? You cannot be Christian while accepting an anti-Christian "master" and being part of their cult. But I agree that we should pray for them, including their repentance and salvation. I pray that her husband has time to do that. she is Christian, and you are a China apologist. What do you call someone who is a member of a Chinese cult that accepts "Master Li" over Christ? the victim of a Chinese shill. Give up derailing the thread. You won't succeed. Are you also a Falun Gong cultist who worships "master" Li Hongzhi as a deity? Covering each other? |
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(OP) User ID: 75944363 United States 07/11/2021 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just read zsomeof these poisonous posts targeting me. How can a post like one of mine, like most others, about the wicked CCP killing Falun Gong be construed as promoting Falun Gong? Instead, it is revealing a terrible murderous persecution:F China: Deaths of 67 Falun Gong Practitioners Reported in First Half of 2021 (with photos) from July 6 This person follows me around with his CCP talking points trying to cause trouble, But nobody listens and I have some really important things to take care of, Blessings to all. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80592439 United States 07/11/2021 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God, I pray today that Lily understands that nothing we do can redeem us... And everything Jesus did can. Let her whisper both her love and Jesus' in her husband's ear, so that he may be healed, in this world, and in the resurrection, both. Make her husband a soldier in your spiritual army through your healing. Hallelujah Lord! |
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