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oooOOOoOoooo cool
i love me some horror too. obviously seen every scream movie and every other horror movie ever lol

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oooOOOoOoooo cool
i love me some horror too. obviously seen every scream movie and every other horror movie ever lol

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Ahh one of my favorites! ty!

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I’m advised to not speak here anymore and I will honor that. I will be reading though.

Last question. What is it about GOD you find wrong? The Ten Commandments specifically. I find most that hate GOD do so because they were brainwashed and led astray by human interpretation of said scripture. It was shoved down their throat and not in a nice way. Many have been harmed by human interrelation . I find scripture beautiful, healing and powerful. I find most that hate the Bible have been harmed by it by humans. Seems to me, purposeful, indeed.
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I’m advised to not speak here anymore and I will honor that. I will be reading though.

Last question. What is it about GOD you find wrong? The Ten Commandments specifically. I find most that hate GOD do so because they were brainwashed and led astray by human interpretation of said scripture. It was shoved down their throat and not in a nice way. Many have been harmed by human interrelation . I find scripture beautiful, healing and powerful. I find most that hate the Bible have been harmed by it by humans. Seems to me, purposeful, indeed.
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Who told you that you couldnt speak here?

I don't hate God or the Bible or Christians. I just believe differently. As for the 10 commandments, it would literally take pages to layout everything wrong there. In summary I think they're hogwash. Written by primitive people in a primitive time.

And I'm sorry to say, for a religion that speaks of love, acceptance and forgiveness, my experience with Christianity has been the exact opposite. Of course it's not all of them and I'm not judging all by the actions of a few.

But more often than not, I'm not seeing the love and tolerance and patience

Case in point. Go check out the thread that my resident troll made. There's your Christian love and tolerance in action.

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I enjoy this thread. Does anyone on this thread use hair for your practice? I think my stylist did a witchy thing and cut my hair too short.

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I enjoy this thread. Does anyone on this thread use hair for your practice? I think my stylist did a witchy thing and cut my hair too short.

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That gets into sympathetic magick, where you use an object from someone in a working. I've personally never done it as there are less ickier ways to go about it lol

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One night, at my usual spot, I was talking to some people, one guy in particular. He asked me a couple of questions, looking back I think I must have said a password. He said something to his friends after I answered. I was then invited to an after party.
It was at a house. There were a lot of people there. I only recognized one or two people there. They had lots of beers and this liquid form of THC. Of course, I partook. I went downstairs at one point. I see like 15 people lying on an enormous bed. I was invited to sit. So I sat on the edge of the bed.
A while later, I go back upstairs and talk to the guy who invited me. I see a girl holding a knife, and say “she’s got a knife.” He responded that it was her athame and she was a witch. He asked me if I was a witch, and I think I responded with what any good witch would say.
The next thing I remember was that the party had mostly cleared out. The girl with the athame was talking about moving into the other room, and mentioned getting undressed. The person she was talking to, opposed that as there was another coven there. I was so high that I had no idea what they were talking about. I was thinking orgy. Like 5 minutes later, we were led into the other room.
It was dark in the room. Then, the girl with the athame starts walking around the circle of people chanting. I’m listening with such curiosity. It was very rhythmic and rhyming. It didn’t cause me fear, just I knew I was in a room full of witches. Eventually, I hear it. They say “Sit!” I stay standing, oblivious to what’s happening. The guy next to me says something like “dude, sit down” and then I sat. I learned months later that the circle opens when everyone sits down. I don’t remember what happened after I sat down. They might’ve chalked it up to the THC I had been ingesting. The home coven probably thought I was with the visiting coven, and the visiting coven probably thought I was with the home coven, as I was mostly talking to someone in the home coven.
Next thing I know, the sun was out and I was drove home.
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what does the green witch think of Psilocybin
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what does the green witch think of Psilocybin
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I honestly can't tell you since I've never used it. The closest I came to that was experimenting with mescaline back in the day when I was studying Shamanism. Many moons ago

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what does the green witch think of Psilocybin
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I honestly can't tell you since I've never used it. The closest I came to that was experimenting with mescaline back in the day when I was studying Shamanism. Many moons ago

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never was able to find that
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I go to the most high GOD when that happens. He has never failed me. I have watched my enemies destroyed before my eyes. Do you find karma comes to you for practicing hexes? Also thanks for the open dialog here. I’m trying to understand your ways .
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No problem. One of the points of having this thread is to clear up the misunderstanding that some people have about who we are and what we do.

I believe in karma but not like most people think of karma. That being that there is some force which judges your actions and makes a moral decision to reward or punish you. Karma is simply the law of attraction at work, giving back to you what you focus on and believe and put out into the world.

This type of Karma isn't morality based. It's part of the Universal force which just endlessly creates over and over. You put out bad, it brings that back to you. You put good out into the world, it brings good back to you.

It balances the scales

It comes down to your intent. If I do a hex out of anger, and hate and a need for revenge, what do you think I'll get back?

If I do a hex not out of anger, but love for my family to protect them, what do you think I'll get back?

Which is the better choice?
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To me a better choice would be to trust in GOD and not do any hex at all. It has never failed for me. Even when someone threatened my family, I read scripture , especially Psalms and it always works out. I guess you create your own type of poem or psalms to hex? Words are powerful of course. I just wonder about the repercussions of taking into your own hands. I like that you don’t curse out of pure anger. That can be harmful to you. Again, appreciate you allowing me to pick your brain and heart.
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Most of the people who say they "trust in God" also have insurance, own firearms, and save for retirement.

These are simply tools at our disposal to give "God" an avenue through which to provide for the contingency we might get into an accident, have a home invader, or need to quit working in our old age.

Spells and hexes are not really different than prayers or "positive thinking". They are all non-physical means (or "tools") for bringing about positive changes that we need.

Praying for God to smite your enemies isn't any more enlightened than casting a "hex" of some kind. I wonder what "God" must think of those kind of prayers. There are almost always ways to fix problems that don't involve harming anyone, even "bad" people. I had a boss who was a problem years ago. He wasn't bad per se, but he would hang out at my desk engaging in idle conversation for hours on end - which isn't necessarily bad, but it was causing work to fall behind schedule which made me vulnerable and visible to the higher ups, and not in a good way. I did a working where he would find another opportunity that would fit his talents better and so tempting he couldn't refuse. Within 2 weeks he had a new job elsewhere at a nice pay increase which I'm sure was appreciated by his wife and two kids who had been sitting on lawn furniture at the kitchen table.

If you're going to use firearms to protect yourself you have to understand that there's a rightful way and an wrongful way to use them. If you're going to use metaphysical skills to improve your life, or protect your family and your responsibilities, there's also a rightful way and an wrongful way to do so.

It's a crude person who uses a cudgel to persuade someone when treating them to lunch could get their cooperation just as well. I think a lot of times those who think others are using spells/hexes for hurtful, deceitful and pernicious ways are simply projecting how they would use such abilities if they had them. Counter to what some believe, the use of metaphysical abilities "miracles" some might call them, is not foreign or alien to the Creator of this world, nor to this world itself. Self mastery, and the understanding of how the subtle forces that underlie everything around us, are not wicked perversions but are rather just another branch of how we as humans are enabled to manage and guide the world around us in a happy, healthy, prosperous and mutually beneficial way. It's rare, I mean really rare, to hear a modern witch or sorcerer talk of doing something harmful. That's the domain of damaged people who are misusing and abusing the tools at their disposal. I have known a total of ONE person over the course of several decades that was of this bent - petty, small-minded, and vicious. To be blunt - their life is none better for their efforts, quite the contrary in fact. Karma is a bitch and she will bite you if you abuse her. That doesn't mean serious situations don't require a serious response, but if one bears in mind the firearms analogy, if it's in legitimate self-defense or rightful protection of one's vital interests, then fair is fair.

Hope that lends a little perspective to your inquiry.
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So then why do people who are always positive and do good , still suffer and endure pains more than those who do evil?

Why are the most evil people in this world the ones who are on top of it and have everything they desire?
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No problem. One of the points of having this thread is to clear up the misunderstanding that some people have about who we are and what we do.

I believe in karma but not like most people think of karma. That being that there is some force which judges your actions and makes a moral decision to reward or punish you. Karma is simply the law of attraction at work, giving back to you what you focus on and believe and put out into the world.

This type of Karma isn't morality based. It's part of the Universal force which just endlessly creates over and over. You put out bad, it brings that back to you. You put good out into the world, it brings good back to you.

It balances the scales

It comes down to your intent. If I do a hex out of anger, and hate and a need for revenge, what do you think I'll get back?

If I do a hex not out of anger, but love for my family to protect them, what do you think I'll get back?

Which is the better choice?
 Quoting: Green Witch


To me a better choice would be to trust in GOD and not do any hex at all. It has never failed for me. Even when someone threatened my family, I read scripture , especially Psalms and it always works out. I guess you create your own type of poem or psalms to hex? Words are powerful of course. I just wonder about the repercussions of taking into your own hands. I like that you don’t curse out of pure anger. That can be harmful to you. Again, appreciate you allowing me to pick your brain and heart.
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Most of the people who say they "trust in God" also have insurance, own firearms, and save for retirement.

These are simply tools at our disposal to give "God" an avenue through which to provide for the contingency we might get into an accident, have a home invader, or need to quit working in our old age.

Spells and hexes are not really different than prayers or "positive thinking". They are all non-physical means (or "tools") for bringing about positive changes that we need.

Praying for God to smite your enemies isn't any more enlightened than casting a "hex" of some kind. I wonder what "God" must think of those kind of prayers. There are almost always ways to fix problems that don't involve harming anyone, even "bad" people. I had a boss who was a problem years ago. He wasn't bad per se, but he would hang out at my desk engaging in idle conversation for hours on end - which isn't necessarily bad, but it was causing work to fall behind schedule which made me vulnerable and visible to the higher ups, and not in a good way. I did a working where he would find another opportunity that would fit his talents better and so tempting he couldn't refuse. Within 2 weeks he had a new job elsewhere at a nice pay increase which I'm sure was appreciated by his wife and two kids who had been sitting on lawn furniture at the kitchen table.

If you're going to use firearms to protect yourself you have to understand that there's a rightful way and an wrongful way to use them. If you're going to use metaphysical skills to improve your life, or protect your family and your responsibilities, there's also a rightful way and an wrongful way to do so.

It's a crude person who uses a cudgel to persuade someone when treating them to lunch could get their cooperation just as well. I think a lot of times those who think others are using spells/hexes for hurtful, deceitful and pernicious ways are simply projecting how they would use such abilities if they had them. Counter to what some believe, the use of metaphysical abilities "miracles" some might call them, is not foreign or alien to the Creator of this world, nor to this world itself. Self mastery, and the understanding of how the subtle forces that underlie everything around us, are not wicked perversions but are rather just another branch of how we as humans are enabled to manage and guide the world around us in a happy, healthy, prosperous and mutually beneficial way. It's rare, I mean really rare, to hear a modern witch or sorcerer talk of doing something harmful. That's the domain of damaged people who are misusing and abusing the tools at their disposal. I have known a total of ONE person over the course of several decades that was of this bent - petty, small-minded, and vicious. To be blunt - their life is none better for their efforts, quite the contrary in fact. Karma is a bitch and she will bite you if you abuse her. That doesn't mean serious situations don't require a serious response, but if one bears in mind the firearms analogy, if it's in legitimate self-defense or rightful protection of one's vital interests, then fair is fair.

Hope that lends a little perspective to your inquiry.
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So then why do people who are always positive and do good , still suffer and endure pains more than those who do evil?

Why are the most evil people in this world the ones who are on top of it and have everything they desire?
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Bad things can/do happen to good people and it isn't because of karma. Sometimes it's because it's a life-experience they've elected to have in this lifetime to further their growth or to add to their soul-experience. And then again, sometimes it's because however "good" they may be, they do stupid things and win stupid prizes.

Bad people sometimes appear to get away with really awful behavior. They may be benefiting from it in terms of physicality but they are really harming themselves and their soul-growth in this lifetime. Also, there are some who have agreed to fill the role of the "villain" in this liftime in order to provide others with the experience... a "foil" as it were.

It's a legit question, but really goes outside the realm of metaphysical ethics. If you're looking for simple, pat answers, this line of inquiry is not where you're likely to find them because there are so many intersecting ideas/concepts/issues there.
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To me a better choice would be to trust in GOD and not do any hex at all. It has never failed for me. Even when someone threatened my family, I read scripture , especially Psalms and it always works out. I guess you create your own type of poem or psalms to hex? Words are powerful of course. I just wonder about the repercussions of taking into your own hands. I like that you don’t curse out of pure anger. That can be harmful to you. Again, appreciate you allowing me to pick your brain and heart.
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Most of the people who say they "trust in God" also have insurance, own firearms, and save for retirement.

These are simply tools at our disposal to give "God" an avenue through which to provide for the contingency we might get into an accident, have a home invader, or need to quit working in our old age.

Spells and hexes are not really different than prayers or "positive thinking". They are all non-physical means (or "tools") for bringing about positive changes that we need.

Praying for God to smite your enemies isn't any more enlightened than casting a "hex" of some kind. I wonder what "God" must think of those kind of prayers. There are almost always ways to fix problems that don't involve harming anyone, even "bad" people. I had a boss who was a problem years ago. He wasn't bad per se, but he would hang out at my desk engaging in idle conversation for hours on end - which isn't necessarily bad, but it was causing work to fall behind schedule which made me vulnerable and visible to the higher ups, and not in a good way. I did a working where he would find another opportunity that would fit his talents better and so tempting he couldn't refuse. Within 2 weeks he had a new job elsewhere at a nice pay increase which I'm sure was appreciated by his wife and two kids who had been sitting on lawn furniture at the kitchen table.

If you're going to use firearms to protect yourself you have to understand that there's a rightful way and an wrongful way to use them. If you're going to use metaphysical skills to improve your life, or protect your family and your responsibilities, there's also a rightful way and an wrongful way to do so.

It's a crude person who uses a cudgel to persuade someone when treating them to lunch could get their cooperation just as well. I think a lot of times those who think others are using spells/hexes for hurtful, deceitful and pernicious ways are simply projecting how they would use such abilities if they had them. Counter to what some believe, the use of metaphysical abilities "miracles" some might call them, is not foreign or alien to the Creator of this world, nor to this world itself. Self mastery, and the understanding of how the subtle forces that underlie everything around us, are not wicked perversions but are rather just another branch of how we as humans are enabled to manage and guide the world around us in a happy, healthy, prosperous and mutually beneficial way. It's rare, I mean really rare, to hear a modern witch or sorcerer talk of doing something harmful. That's the domain of damaged people who are misusing and abusing the tools at their disposal. I have known a total of ONE person over the course of several decades that was of this bent - petty, small-minded, and vicious. To be blunt - their life is none better for their efforts, quite the contrary in fact. Karma is a bitch and she will bite you if you abuse her. That doesn't mean serious situations don't require a serious response, but if one bears in mind the firearms analogy, if it's in legitimate self-defense or rightful protection of one's vital interests, then fair is fair.

Hope that lends a little perspective to your inquiry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76258609




So then why do people who are always positive and do good , still suffer and endure pains more than those who do evil?

Why are the most evil people in this world the ones who are on top of it and have everything they desire?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73148267


Bad things can/do happen to good people and it isn't because of karma. Sometimes it's because it's a life-experience they've elected to have in this lifetime to further their growth or to add to their soul-experience. And then again, sometimes it's because however "good" they may be, they do stupid things and win stupid prizes.

Bad people sometimes appear to get away with really awful behavior. They may be benefiting from it in terms of physicality but they are really harming themselves and their soul-growth in this lifetime. Also, there are some who have agreed to fill the role of the "villain" in this liftime in order to provide others with the experience... a "foil" as it were.

It's a legit question, but really goes outside the realm of metaphysical ethics. If you're looking for simple, pat answers, this line of inquiry is not where you're likely to find them because there are so many intersecting ideas/concepts/issues there.
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Are you saying that someone would actively choose , in their previous life , to go through sufferings in their next , even though they have no knowledge of this choice and would actively choose to change their circumstances for the better?

Also doesn't that completely negate karma?

Not only does that sound like a clever way to dismiss violation of free will by saying " they chose it " , but also a cope to simultaneously lay the blame on good people who have done nothing but try to be good , for why they get shit on.

And that's exactly the kind of psychological abuse narcissists engage with in order to place the blame on the people they shit on , even using the excuse , " good people do stupid things ".

Again , how does that at all reflect karma? Are you saying that if someone takes a risk to do good even at the expense of themselves , then they deserve to suffer for it?

Plus , you're saying that people agree to be the villain in order to provide others with the experience of being shit on? While they are rewarded with material and worldly pleasures for their efforts?

So why would anyone care about growing spiritually if they can just always choose the path of being the villain and maintain constant worldly delights in every life time?

Because by this logic , someone can just commit suicide whenever they are dissatisfied and they'll simply be able to restart with the chance of having a better hand dealt.
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thoughts on Stevie Nicks? Since shes sort of associated with witchery?
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what does the green witch think of Psilocybin
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I heard no more than a handful a handful of times.
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per siting ?
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Are you saying that someone would actively choose , in their previous life , to go through sufferings in their next , even though they have no knowledge of this choice and would actively choose to change their circumstances for the better?

Also doesn't that completely negate karma?

Not only does that sound like a clever way to dismiss violation of free will by saying " they chose it " , but also a cope to simultaneously lay the blame on good people who have done nothing but try to be good , for why they get shit on.

And that's exactly the kind of psychological abuse narcissists engage with in order to place the blame on the people they shit on , even using the excuse , " good people do stupid things ".

Again , how does that at all reflect karma? Are you saying that if someone takes a risk to do good even at the expense of themselves , then they deserve to suffer for it?

Plus , you're saying that people agree to be the villain in order to provide others with the experience of being shit on? While they are rewarded with material and worldly pleasures for their efforts?

So why would anyone care about growing spiritually if they can just always choose the path of being the villain and maintain constant worldly delights in every life time?

Because by this logic , someone can just commit suicide whenever they are dissatisfied and they'll simply be able to restart with the chance of having a better hand dealt.
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If you want an in-depth treatment of the issue of life planning etc I recommend reading "Flipside: A Journey Into the Afterlife" by Richard Martini.

Hey, believe whatever you like, it's a free country. I'm not going to get sucked into arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Have a great day.
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If you want an in-depth treatment of the issue of life planning etc I recommend reading "Flipside: A Journey Into the Afterlife" by Richard Martini.

Hey, believe whatever you like, it's a free country. I'm not going to get sucked into arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Have a great day.
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Way to share so called 'enlightenment'! You must still have a lot of " soul growth " to go through.

And yes , apparently 'believe whatever you want' is what you meant to say to begin with.

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Most of the people who say they "trust in God" also have insurance, own firearms, and save for retirement.

These are simply tools at our disposal to give "God" an avenue through which to provide for the contingency we might get into an accident, have a home invader, or need to quit working in our old age.

Spells and hexes are not really different than prayers or "positive thinking". They are all non-physical means (or "tools") for bringing about positive changes that we need.

Praying for God to smite your enemies isn't any more enlightened than casting a "hex" of some kind. I wonder what "God" must think of those kind of prayers. There are almost always ways to fix problems that don't involve harming anyone, even "bad" people. I had a boss who was a problem years ago. He wasn't bad per se, but he would hang out at my desk engaging in idle conversation for hours on end - which isn't necessarily bad, but it was causing work to fall behind schedule which made me vulnerable and visible to the higher ups, and not in a good way. I did a working where he would find another opportunity that would fit his talents better and so tempting he couldn't refuse. Within 2 weeks he had a new job elsewhere at a nice pay increase which I'm sure was appreciated by his wife and two kids who had been sitting on lawn furniture at the kitchen table.

If you're going to use firearms to protect yourself you have to understand that there's a rightful way and an wrongful way to use them. If you're going to use metaphysical skills to improve your life, or protect your family and your responsibilities, there's also a rightful way and an wrongful way to do so.

It's a crude person who uses a cudgel to persuade someone when treating them to lunch could get their cooperation just as well. I think a lot of times those who think others are using spells/hexes for hurtful, deceitful and pernicious ways are simply projecting how they would use such abilities if they had them. Counter to what some believe, the use of metaphysical abilities "miracles" some might call them, is not foreign or alien to the Creator of this world, nor to this world itself. Self mastery, and the understanding of how the subtle forces that underlie everything around us, are not wicked perversions but are rather just another branch of how we as humans are enabled to manage and guide the world around us in a happy, healthy, prosperous and mutually beneficial way. It's rare, I mean really rare, to hear a modern witch or sorcerer talk of doing something harmful. That's the domain of damaged people who are misusing and abusing the tools at their disposal. I have known a total of ONE person over the course of several decades that was of this bent - petty, small-minded, and vicious. To be blunt - their life is none better for their efforts, quite the contrary in fact. Karma is a bitch and she will bite you if you abuse her. That doesn't mean serious situations don't require a serious response, but if one bears in mind the firearms analogy, if it's in legitimate self-defense or rightful protection of one's vital interests, then fair is fair.

Hope that lends a little perspective to your inquiry.
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So then why do people who are always positive and do good , still suffer and endure pains more than those who do evil?

Why are the most evil people in this world the ones who are on top of it and have everything they desire?
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Bad things can/do happen to good people and it isn't because of karma. Sometimes it's because it's a life-experience they've elected to have in this lifetime to further their growth or to add to their soul-experience. And then again, sometimes it's because however "good" they may be, they do stupid things and win stupid prizes.

Bad people sometimes appear to get away with really awful behavior. They may be benefiting from it in terms of physicality but they are really harming themselves and their soul-growth in this lifetime. Also, there are some who have agreed to fill the role of the "villain" in this liftime in order to provide others with the experience... a "foil" as it were.

It's a legit question, but really goes outside the realm of metaphysical ethics. If you're looking for simple, pat answers, this line of inquiry is not where you're likely to find them because there are so many intersecting ideas/concepts/issues there.
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Are you saying that someone would actively choose , in their previous life , to go through sufferings in their next , even though they have no knowledge of this choice and would actively choose to change their circumstances for the better?

Also doesn't that completely negate karma?

Not only does that sound like a clever way to dismiss violation of free will by saying " they chose it " , but also a cope to simultaneously lay the blame on good people who have done nothing but try to be good , for why they get shit on.

And that's exactly the kind of psychological abuse narcissists engage with in order to place the blame on the people they shit on , even using the excuse , " good people do stupid things ".

Again , how does that at all reflect karma? Are you saying that if someone takes a risk to do good even at the expense of themselves , then they deserve to suffer for it?

Plus , you're saying that people agree to be the villain in order to provide others with the experience of being shit on? While they are rewarded with material and worldly pleasures for their efforts?

So why would anyone care about growing spiritually if they can just always choose the path of being the villain and maintain constant worldly delights in every life time?

Because by this logic , someone can just commit suicide whenever they are dissatisfied and they'll simply be able to restart with the chance of having a better hand dealt.
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basic training was fun because it sucked a$$ even better to look back on, the same with existence living in a perfect realm forever would get extremely boring. so we have this world of suck with two conditions only you must die, and you can only now with certainty this world. if we knew with certainty what existed beyond its possible many of us would have killed ourselves a long time ago.
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So then why do people who are always positive and do good , still suffer and endure pains more than those who do evil?

Why are the most evil people in this world the ones who are on top of it and have everything they desire?
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Bad things can/do happen to good people and it isn't because of karma. Sometimes it's because it's a life-experience they've elected to have in this lifetime to further their growth or to add to their soul-experience. And then again, sometimes it's because however "good" they may be, they do stupid things and win stupid prizes.

Bad people sometimes appear to get away with really awful behavior. They may be benefiting from it in terms of physicality but they are really harming themselves and their soul-growth in this lifetime. Also, there are some who have agreed to fill the role of the "villain" in this liftime in order to provide others with the experience... a "foil" as it were.

It's a legit question, but really goes outside the realm of metaphysical ethics. If you're looking for simple, pat answers, this line of inquiry is not where you're likely to find them because there are so many intersecting ideas/concepts/issues there.
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Are you saying that someone would actively choose , in their previous life , to go through sufferings in their next , even though they have no knowledge of this choice and would actively choose to change their circumstances for the better?

Also doesn't that completely negate karma?

Not only does that sound like a clever way to dismiss violation of free will by saying " they chose it " , but also a cope to simultaneously lay the blame on good people who have done nothing but try to be good , for why they get shit on.

And that's exactly the kind of psychological abuse narcissists engage with in order to place the blame on the people they shit on , even using the excuse , " good people do stupid things ".

Again , how does that at all reflect karma? Are you saying that if someone takes a risk to do good even at the expense of themselves , then they deserve to suffer for it?

Plus , you're saying that people agree to be the villain in order to provide others with the experience of being shit on? While they are rewarded with material and worldly pleasures for their efforts?

So why would anyone care about growing spiritually if they can just always choose the path of being the villain and maintain constant worldly delights in every life time?

Because by this logic , someone can just commit suicide whenever they are dissatisfied and they'll simply be able to restart with the chance of having a better hand dealt.
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basic training was fun because it sucked a$$ even better to look back on, the same with existence living in a perfect realm forever would get extremely boring. so we have this world of suck with two conditions only you must die, and you can only now with certainty this world. if we knew with certainty what existed beyond its possible many of us would have killed ourselves a long time ago.
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You're saying none of us can know for certain what existed in our previous life time , yet are asserting to know that a perfect realm , which you cannot know for certain has ever existed , would be boring?

So how could you know it would be boring if you don't know whether you've experienced it or not?

This sounds like an excuse to simply justify chaos and those who bring about evil , so that you may be entertained by bringing order and making yourself out to be a protagonist.
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Also 'boring' be used as an excuse is like saying you aren't willing to do what is necessary so that everyone can live in a perfect realm.

Which doesn't really make you good.
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Bad things can/do happen to good people and it isn't because of karma. Sometimes it's because it's a life-experience they've elected to have in this lifetime to further their growth or to add to their soul-experience. And then again, sometimes it's because however "good" they may be, they do stupid things and win stupid prizes.

Bad people sometimes appear to get away with really awful behavior. They may be benefiting from it in terms of physicality but they are really harming themselves and their soul-growth in this lifetime. Also, there are some who have agreed to fill the role of the "villain" in this liftime in order to provide others with the experience... a "foil" as it were.

It's a legit question, but really goes outside the realm of metaphysical ethics. If you're looking for simple, pat answers, this line of inquiry is not where you're likely to find them because there are so many intersecting ideas/concepts/issues there.
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Are you saying that someone would actively choose , in their previous life , to go through sufferings in their next , even though they have no knowledge of this choice and would actively choose to change their circumstances for the better?

Also doesn't that completely negate karma?

Not only does that sound like a clever way to dismiss violation of free will by saying " they chose it " , but also a cope to simultaneously lay the blame on good people who have done nothing but try to be good , for why they get shit on.

And that's exactly the kind of psychological abuse narcissists engage with in order to place the blame on the people they shit on , even using the excuse , " good people do stupid things ".

Again , how does that at all reflect karma? Are you saying that if someone takes a risk to do good even at the expense of themselves , then they deserve to suffer for it?

Plus , you're saying that people agree to be the villain in order to provide others with the experience of being shit on? While they are rewarded with material and worldly pleasures for their efforts?

So why would anyone care about growing spiritually if they can just always choose the path of being the villain and maintain constant worldly delights in every life time?

Because by this logic , someone can just commit suicide whenever they are dissatisfied and they'll simply be able to restart with the chance of having a better hand dealt.
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basic training was fun because it sucked a$$ even better to look back on, the same with existence living in a perfect realm forever would get extremely boring. so we have this world of suck with two conditions only you must die, and you can only now with certainty this world. if we knew with certainty what existed beyond its possible many of us would have killed ourselves a long time ago.
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You're saying none of us can know for certain what existed in our previous life time , yet are asserting to know that a perfect realm , which you cannot know for certain has ever existed , would be boring?

So how could you know it would be boring if you don't know whether you've experienced it or not?

This sounds like an excuse to simply justify chaos and those who bring about evil , so that you may be entertained by bringing order and making yourself out to be a protagonist.
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whoohoo Misty Day

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thoughts on Stevie Nicks? Since shes sort of associated with witchery?
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Shall I just... ? :P


Coz reasons, probably.
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Are you saying that someone would actively choose , in their previous life , to go through sufferings in their next , even though they have no knowledge of this choice and would actively choose to change their circumstances for the better?

Also doesn't that completely negate karma?

Not only does that sound like a clever way to dismiss violation of free will by saying " they chose it " , but also a cope to simultaneously lay the blame on good people who have done nothing but try to be good , for why they get shit on.

And that's exactly the kind of psychological abuse narcissists engage with in order to place the blame on the people they shit on , even using the excuse , " good people do stupid things ".

Again , how does that at all reflect karma? Are you saying that if someone takes a risk to do good even at the expense of themselves , then they deserve to suffer for it?

Plus , you're saying that people agree to be the villain in order to provide others with the experience of being shit on? While they are rewarded with material and worldly pleasures for their efforts?

So why would anyone care about growing spiritually if they can just always choose the path of being the villain and maintain constant worldly delights in every life time?

Because by this logic , someone can just commit suicide whenever they are dissatisfied and they'll simply be able to restart with the chance of having a better hand dealt.
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basic training was fun because it sucked a$$ even better to look back on, the same with existence living in a perfect realm forever would get extremely boring. so we have this world of suck with two conditions only you must die, and you can only now with certainty this world. if we knew with certainty what existed beyond its possible many of us would have killed ourselves a long time ago.
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You're saying none of us can know for certain what existed in our previous life time , yet are asserting to know that a perfect realm , which you cannot know for certain has ever existed , would be boring?

So how could you know it would be boring if you don't know whether you've experienced it or not?

This sounds like an excuse to simply justify chaos and those who bring about evil , so that you may be entertained by bringing order and making yourself out to be a protagonist.
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1. i do not know
2. Have you ever read a story that had zero struggle and everything was just perfect( likey not becuase that would be boring af)
3. Yes
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Are you saying that someone would actively choose , in their previous life , to go through sufferings in their next , even though they have no knowledge of this choice and would actively choose to change their circumstances for the better?

Also doesn't that completely negate karma?

Not only does that sound like a clever way to dismiss violation of free will by saying " they chose it " , but also a cope to simultaneously lay the blame on good people who have done nothing but try to be good , for why they get shit on.

And that's exactly the kind of psychological abuse narcissists engage with in order to place the blame on the people they shit on , even using the excuse , " good people do stupid things ".

Again , how does that at all reflect karma? Are you saying that if someone takes a risk to do good even at the expense of themselves , then they deserve to suffer for it?

Plus , you're saying that people agree to be the villain in order to provide others with the experience of being shit on? While they are rewarded with material and worldly pleasures for their efforts?

So why would anyone care about growing spiritually if they can just always choose the path of being the villain and maintain constant worldly delights in every life time?

Because by this logic , someone can just commit suicide whenever they are dissatisfied and they'll simply be able to restart with the chance of having a better hand dealt.
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basic training was fun because it sucked a$$ even better to look back on, the same with existence living in a perfect realm forever would get extremely boring. so we have this world of suck with two conditions only you must die, and you can only now with certainty this world. if we knew with certainty what existed beyond its possible many of us would have killed ourselves a long time ago.
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You're saying none of us can know for certain what existed in our previous life time , yet are asserting to know that a perfect realm , which you cannot know for certain has ever existed , would be boring?

So how could you know it would be boring if you don't know whether you've experienced it or not?

This sounds like an excuse to simply justify chaos and those who bring about evil , so that you may be entertained by bringing order and making yourself out to be a protagonist.
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Well thank you for admitting that you ultimately get your kicks at the expense of suffering that is brought about on others. hf
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basic training was fun because it sucked a$$ even better to look back on, the same with existence living in a perfect realm forever would get extremely boring. so we have this world of suck with two conditions only you must die, and you can only now with certainty this world. if we knew with certainty what existed beyond its possible many of us would have killed ourselves a long time ago.
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You're saying none of us can know for certain what existed in our previous life time , yet are asserting to know that a perfect realm , which you cannot know for certain has ever existed , would be boring?

So how could you know it would be boring if you don't know whether you've experienced it or not?

This sounds like an excuse to simply justify chaos and those who bring about evil , so that you may be entertained by bringing order and making yourself out to be a protagonist.
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1. i do not know
2. Have you ever read a story that had zero struggle and everything was just perfect( likey not becuase that would be boring af)
3. Yes
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Well thank you for admitting that you ultimately get your kicks at the expense of suffering that is brought about on others. hf
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whoohoo Misty Day

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thoughts on Stevie Nicks? Since shes sort of associated with witchery?
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Shall I just... ? :P


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thanks. i got frustrated looking for the misty day tribute of her dancing to Rhiannon but it was deleted of the internet, i guess.





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