Learning from Jesus' final words.

"Father, forgive them. They know not what they do"

His finest words in fact. and something to practice on this world.. to forgive is for self... to heal... and if they benefit so much the better.

End of lecture. bye.

Excellent, straight to the point.

NOPE. focusing on "self" is NOT what he meant at all. He was talking about YOU and those like you. He is asking GOD the Father to forgive all those who not only persecuted, brutalized, and then kiled him on that cross in their ignorance of who he was but for all those today who do essentially the same thing.

lying about Jesus, telling the lies that he isn't the only begotten son, that he has been on a urantian spaceship since 1954, etc..... he was asking for the Father to forgive you too all is one for bearing false witness and lying about Jesus, who is the only, only begotten son and who is NOT been on a spaceship since 1954.

Telling those lies comes with consequences from GOD himself.

but of course you as a die hard new-ager cant grasp this because you are too focused on the self as always.

True for sure Jesus wasn't promoting self focus but this;

"Stop judging that you may not be judged; 2 for with the judgment you are judging, you will be judged, and with the measure that you are measuring out, they will measure out to you"

"to forgive is for self... to heal... and if they benefit so much the better." The message here is mercy/forgiveness is mentally/emotionally healthy, Christ like. No contradiction, just balance.

You only have the ones that made it to the Bible?

Not the most complete reference. His final words are recorded in the Gospels the roman Catholic Church banned and tried to erase for all time in great burning and censorship, yes just like the Nazis.

The Nag Hammadi Scriptures contain the other gospels the background books which many of the ancient cultures had access to.

Once you read them you see the lies the Roman Catholic Church invented and proliferated.

Yes as prophesied;
[iLet no one lead you astray in any way, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4He stands in opposition and exalts himself above -called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5Do you not remember that when I was still with you, I used to tell you these things?
6And now you know what is acting as a restraint, so that he will be revealed in his own due time. 7True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work, but only until the one who is right now acting as a restraint is out of the way. 8Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9But the lawless one’s presence is by the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and wonders 10and every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth in order that they might be saved. 11&That is why God lets a deluding influence mislead them so that they may come to believe the lie, 12in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness. 2Thes2

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“FATHER, FORGIVE THEM”

3. To whom was Jesus likely referring when he said: “Father, forgive them”?

3 What did Jesus say? Upon being nailed to the stake, Jesus prayed: “Father, forgive them.” Forgive whom? We find a clue in the words that follow: “They do not know what they are doing.” (Luke 23:33, 34) Jesus was likely referring to the Roman soldiers who drove the nails through his hands and feet. They did not know who he really was. He may also have had in mind some in the crowd who had demanded his execution but would later exercise faith in him. (Acts 2:36-38) Jesus refused to allow the injustices he had suffered to make him bitter and resentful. (1 Pet. 2:23) Instead, he asked Jehovah to forgive those putting him to death.

those were not Jesus' final words ... least some of you forget ... Jesus returned to LIFE ... and no doubt had plenty to say for the next ten days after his crucifixion


of course, very little of it was passed on by the Romans who compiled the New Testament ... but as always, Jesus' example speaks louder than words ... and as he moved on into the next dimension of Life - while STILL IN THE BODY - witnessed by hundreds - he said "Come, follow me"

"and he who replies to the beast, shall eternaly burn in the lake of fire"
JC

Trivia info for what it's worth;
After he had suffered, he showed himself alive to them by many convincing proofs. He was seen by them throughout 40 days, and he was speaking about the Kingdom of God. Ac1

But I tell you this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom, nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51Look! I tell you a sacred secret: We will not all fall asleep in death, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the blink of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we will be changed. 53For this which is corruptible must put on incorruption, and this which is mortal must put on immortality. 54;But when this which is corruptible puts on incorruption and this which is mortal puts on immortality, then the saying that is written will take place: “Death is swallowed up forever.” 55 “Death, where is your victory? Death, where is your sting?” 1Cor15;50

The Mystical Intent.. Read it later OP

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I thought his final words were to Paul, "Hey, i can see your house from up here"

it's a classic lesson about the benefits of perspective

Jesus said he was not of this world. He is not listening. God will return his son when it's time. A time we don't know. Pray to God.

This world has no solution to it's degeneration, nothing to say worthy of God's attention, however;

At that time those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance was written before him for those fearing Jehovah and for those meditating on his name.
17“And they will be mine,” says Jehovah of armies, “in the day when I produce a special property. I will show them compassion, just as a man shows compassion to his son who serves him. 18And you will again see the distinction between a righteous person and a wicked person, between one serving God and one not serving him.” Mal3:16

Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him by his fine conduct demonstrate works performed with a mildness that comes from wisdom. 14But if you have bitter jealousy and contentiousness in your hearts, do not be bragging and lying against the truth. 15This is not the wisdom that comes down from above; it is earthly, animalistic, demonic. 16For wherever there are jealousy and contentiousness, there will also be disorder and every vile thing.
17But the wisdom from above is first of all pure, then peaceable, reasonable, ready to obey, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial, not hypocritical. 18Moreover, the fruit of righteousness is sown in peaceful conditions for those who are making peace. Ja3:13

You're not going to be forgiven, you Satanic beast.

Hell awaits.

Same with OP.

This contribution seem entirely devoid of scriptural enlightenment/encouraging content, what is missing?

You wouldn't know because you are a reprobate.

Thanks for giving me a free try anyway.

I look forward to seeing you go to hell.

“Stop judging that you may not be judged; 2for with the judgment you are judging, you will be judged, and with the measure that you are measuring out, they will measure out to you. 3Why, then, do you look at the straw in your brother’s eye but do not notice the rafter in your own eye? 4Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Allow me to remove the straw from your eye,’ when look! a rafter is in your own eye? 5Hypocrite! First remove the rafter from your own eye, and then you will see clearly how to remove the straw from your brother’s eye." Mt7

John 3:18
The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

4. What can we learn from Jesus’ willingness to forgive his opposers?

4 What can we learn from Jesus’ words? Like Jesus, we need to be willing to forgive others. (Col. 3:13) Some, including relatives, may oppose us because they do not understand our beliefs and our way of life. They may lie about us, humiliate us in front of others, destroy our literature, or even threaten to cause us physical harm. Rather than harboring resentment, we can ask Jehovah to open the eyes of those who oppose us so that they may one day see the truth. (Matt. 5:44, 45) At times, we may find it hard to forgive, especially if we have experienced gross injustices. But if we allow bitterness and resentment to take root in our heart, we hurt ourselves. One sister explained: “I realize that being forgiving does not mean that I condone offenses or allow others to take advantage of me. It just means that I choose to let go of resentment.” (Ps. 37:8) When we decide to forgive, we are choosing not to let negative experiences make us bitter.—Eph. 4:31, 32.

“YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE”

5. What did Jesus promise one of the criminals being executed alongside him, and why did he make that promise?

5 What did Jesus say? Two criminals were being executed alongside Jesus. At first, the two joined in reproaching him. (Matt. 27:44) But later, one of them had a change of heart. He came to the conclusion that Jesus had done “nothing wrong.” (Luke 23:40, 41) What is more, he expressed his belief that Jesus would be resurrected from death and rule as a king someday. He said to the dying Savior: “Jesus, remember me when you get into your Kingdom.” (Luke 23:42) What faith that man showed! In answer, Jesus said to him: “Truly I tell you today, you will be with me [not in the Kingdom, but] in Paradise.” (Luke 23:43) Notice that Jesus made that promise very personal by referring to “I,” “you,” and “me.” Knowing that his Father is merciful, Jesus spoke words that gave hope to this dying criminal.—Ps. 103:8

They knew exactly what they were doing though. They knew they were executing an innocent person.