Investigation Needed, GLP...Covid recovered and Exposure to Vaxxed People

I've been around people who've been vaxxed. Never have been
sick and I don't think I will because I'm taking supplements daily
too.

I think its hard on the immune challenged mostly, its that pre-existing health issues that seem to make this very difficult.

Look up Japanese Knotweed tincture. It helps with the lingering effects of Lyme and many other things.
It can finish off the dormant or "hiding" Lyme bacteria.

After seeing another post about yeast this is another thing to consider. If your husband has been treated for Lyme with heavy antibiotics it can destroy the gut bacteria and allow candida to infest the system...it can even get into the bloodstream.

Health starts in the gut so he could have reduced immunity from a bacterial imbalance or a yeast overgrowth.

Another thing to consider!

I know what it is like to worry about family members dealing with health issues and have spent a lot of time researching.

I hope this helps.

Have you had Covid though?

My kid is strong, fit, well, no problems at all. But she did have Covid. Same with me, but I don't have autoimmune issues like my husband.

We are all doing supplements and eating pretty well in general. Very little in garbage arena at all, and probably 80 percent home grown no chemicals. Wheat and oats, no. Otherwise, mostly home grown stuff.

Glad you are well and I hope you continue to be well!

What about N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine (NAC)? Read good things about this. Strengthens blood brain barrier that can be penetrated by the spike protein. At least I think that's what it does. I bought a couple bottles through the Life Extension website.

Were you actually "tested" for COVID because if not, sounds like you guys had a bad bout of the flu or flu2 or, likely, bronchitis? I still don't trust anything about the test for COVID because if you went in sick like that wanting to be tested, OF COURSE you would test positive. I'm sorry but I just don't trust whatever might have been on the tip of that swab.

There is obviously something going on with shedding and/OR it's likely that some of the vaccines given were self-spreading or self-propagating. More than one test to more than one agenda is taking place in this enormous clinical trial. The self-spreading would be stronger and make you sick faster. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing where in the US the versions of these vaccines along with the placebos were given.

I do believe that, as sad as it is, those of us who are un-vaccinated need to stay clear of the vaccinated. You say that you didn't get the jab because "there was no point to it". I assume this means because you already had COVID but I do hope that you know that the REAL REASON is because it is a poison of unknown ingredients and that this is guinea pig time by a government that is and always has been nefarious and evil. I'd like to think that you do.

Last Edited by TheExPatrioticGirl on 06/20/2021 01:00 AM

I go into vaxxed people's home's daily. I douse myself down with Deep Woods Off and generally I never have any sort of issue. It's weird, I know. But 100% effective.

Boss is vaxxed and I’m around him everyday. Work in customer’s homes who are also vaxxed.

I might have had Covid in April as I had 3 sleepless nights where I couldn’t catch a full breath. It felt like I was getting 70-80% oxygen but no other symptoms. Never got the Covid test because I don’t trust what is on the swab and I sure as hell don’t want to be quarantined because I need to keep working.

I feel fine as of right now, maybe a little cloudy in the head but that could just be me. I do get tired early nowadays..

I know I’m not very helpful but I thought I’d give my 2 cents.

IT IS BECOMING WELL KNOWN THAT IN THE EVENTUAL CATCHING OR GETTING A TRANSMISSION FROM A VAXXED ONE, GETTING TREATMENT QUICKLY COMES INTO PLAY. TO WHAT DEGREE I DO NOT KNOW. BUT IVERMECTIN/AZITHROMAX/HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE AND ANOTHER FOR EVERYDAY USE A PINCH OF BORAX/BORON IN A GLASS OF WATER DAILY.
UNLESS ONE IS SICKLY I WOULD NOT TAKE THE AZITHROMYACIN.
I MYSELF WOULD TAKE AND PLAN TO GET HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE AND IVERMECTIN WHICH BOTH CAN BE BOUGHT AS VET MEDS ONLINE. DO YOUR RESEARCH. MIKE ADAMS CHARTED THE VET KIND AMOUNTS DOWN BUT ONCE AGAIN I ONLY SAY WHAT I HAVE HEARD AND AM NOT A DOCTOR. BUT THIS IS WHAT I WOULD DO.

No, we didn't take the test because there's no point in it as it (the test) is bullshit.

We will not take the jab because it is simply completely errant in both thought and application.

We had Covid because of all the symptoms and the flu simply isn't prevalent in the end of June.

I don't care to go through all the details atm. Sorry. But I know enough to know we had it, and I know that the prophylaxis we were doing to prevent it was insufficient because we weren't doing enough zinc ionophore. And I was mostly concerned about my husband due to the RA and my mother because she's an octagenerian. But he got it and my mom didn't. But she had a stroke and they swabbed her for it....So, how do you avoid it? We have to live, or the evil wins. We will be okay. But the vaxxed are causing issues...

NAC is something we are doing. Our daughter isn't doing it regularly but hubby and I are on it daily.

Spoke with a NP friend. She said it is actually probably a good sign that he is showing an immune response to the transmission from vaxxed people. Indication being his immune system is working. But certainly best to try to avoid exposure to vaxxed peeps.

And it really isn't a vaccine, but trying to adjust language can be a problem as well.

I guess I am trying to avoid problems.

What's the animal version of hydroxychloroquine? I take quercetin which I know is pretty close but I am just curious. I know the animal meds are usually better...animals can't handle the toxins with which the human meds are usually laced.

I don't know any animal version of HCQ. But we are going to to do a telemed deal for HCQ next week. We have plenty of ivermectin...Maybe should get more as I keep giving tubes to people I love. Lol.

HCQ and ivermectin have a lot of cross applications, but there are some differences in how they address biological issues. They are both anticancer, antiparasitic, and zinc ionophores, but HCQ seems to address infammation more than ivermectin. They should both be OTC everywhere.

This is why we got Covid in the first place. Doing an insufficient amount of artemisinin as a zinc ionophore. And artemisinin is also anticancer and antiparasitic.

Apparently HCQ is the way to go. I can't believe in a supposed "1st world" country we struggle to get such a cheap and effective medication. There are people in Africa walking around with it in their pocket.

It seems that what we have been told for years has been a lie. Everything we battle in our bodies is either parasitic, bacterial or fungal. If we could just keep these at bay we would be alright. Unfortunately the medical profession was taken over by the Rockefellers many years ago and we've been deceived ever since.

Yes! Our family of four all had COVID last year. I had long haul COVID. The first week several people in our church community got the shot, all four of us (my husband, our two teens and myself) were all in bed for one full day, and struggling with exhaustion for several days after. Our teenaged son would get a really red nose every time he was with his friends who had gotten the shot. We have dealt with joint pain, muscle stiffness, fatigue, headaches, dizziness. My husband had to go to Canada to see family last month. The day after he came home on a flight, his left eye suddenly had floaters and flashes of light. The eye doctor said that the vitreous humor in his eye is suddenly very thick. We believe it may have been the flight in proximity to a lot of vaxxed people.
We have wondered in our family why we seem to be so sensitive to being around vaxxed people when others don't seem to be bothered. We have concluded that it must be our prior infection with COVID that has sensitized us to this. We generally are operating at about a third of the energy level that we normally have.

It seems that those who had covid are sensitive to the kill shot...even if it is through "shedding." Hmmm...interesting.

The problem is how complex the situation is.

Which treatment did they get, how many, how long ago.

Honestly there isn't really any idea how long the body keeps making it for. For all we know, some people will produce it and be a real "typhoid Mary" or whatever forever. After all every immune system is unique. Who's to say what 1/1,000,000 mutation might occur?

Does having a treatment protect you from others with the treatment or is everyone basically in the same boat? Again, no one knows.

Is some of it potentially psychosomatic? Not trying to say that's what this is, but it shouldn't be ruled out either - we've had too much of that type of thinking already.

I'm not even sure the "idiots" who created this stuff know what it's going to do.

I'm so sorry you have to endure this, Fluffy Pancakes.
My heart goes out to your husband who is having his livelihood
and his future health affected by this virus.
We are certainly in "uncharted" territory here. We can
get straight information from our "normal" sources and
just NOT KNOWING is very stressful.

I had the longhaul covid like your husband as well. I
had the first covid in December 2019--sick for about a
month but many weeks of getting my strength back again.
Then the first of May I must have been exposed to the
Delta version and THAT lasted easily 4 weeks. I was just
coming out of that the first of June when I spent about
2 or 3 hours on the porch with my neighbor who had gotten
the FIRST VAX. (I tried to tell him NOT to get the 2nd
shot--but he wouldn't listen.)

Only a day or 2 after spending time with him I be danged
if I didn't get some kind of reaction and went through
3 or 4 days of having new symptoms that have finally
cleared up the last day or 2.

One thing I noticed is that if this 2nd one was DELTA...
they are NOT telling people the truth. This is NOT a
variant--it is a 2nd virus release from somewhere as the
"personality" and what I experienced were TOTALLY different
from the 2019-2020 episode. But THAT is a different topic
entirely. If they haven't isolated the FIRST COVID...how
do they KNOW this Delta version isn't a NEW VIRUS? They
don't. This SECOND VIRUS IS MUCH STRONGER and harder to fight. If you haven't had it--do whatever you can to avoid
getting it. I had a fever for nearly a WEEK. Never had that
happen before--it's like the flu on steroids. Headaches were
like migraines. Just an awful bug. Oh, this 2nd bug had a
huge impact on my kidneys. Hubby had the same reaction only
not as severe. We have some urbal supplements we found on
line...drinking ONLY BOTTLED WATER (not tap)...and doing the
D3, C's, CBD and cranberry juice as is recommended in the videos.


Anyways...I think you are absolutely RIGHT ON with the
evaluation that people who have had covid and recovered
are very SENSITIVE to these VAX'd folks who are "shedding"
Spike proteins. We can't even begin to imagine how one
spike protein reacts to another exposure up the road. All
we have is a communication between OTHER COVID RECOVERIES
who are seeing this "sensitivity" to the VAX'd.

This is all like some kind of NIGHTMARE and I'm not
at all happy with how they are just leaving "survivors"
hanging in the wind. Thank God we have GLP and can share
what we are experiencing.

Thanks for hosting this thread--I will be very interested
to hear anyone else's experience with this "sensitivity."
It is going to TOTALLY REARRANGE THE SOCIAL ORDER and
Vax'd versus un-VAX'D WILL be the deciding factor of who
will now be your close friends--or relatives you can be
around.

Strange days indeed!


The Oracle's Cookie



Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 06/20/2021 03:53 AM

What they’re thinking now is that the spike proteins from the covid vax are being released in the sweat of the vaccinated individual, then aerosolize. It’s like when you smell someone with BO. I know that I’m butchering the explanation (it’s late!) but check out Del Bigtree’s interview with Dr. Hodkinson this week.

My girlfriend has been having to go to the hospital frequently and for long stretches to be around someone in her family who was hospitalized. She has simply been around a lot of people who’ve been vaxed and she herself beat covid early on.

Well, now she’s having random menstrual bleeding - unconnected to her cycle.

Here is what I think is happening and perhaps someone with medical training can correct me.

When you’re infected with covid naturally, the virus produces the spike protein and that does most of the damage. Your body eventually finds a way to kill the virus and you cycle the spike protein out of your body.

However in vaccinated individuals, they’re factories of spike proteins and we don’t know for how long. Therefore your immunity, after beating covid, won’t do anything to help because your body is trained to beat the virus and not specifically the spike proteins.

Now, someone rip that guesplication apart please.

I think it's pretty simple really. You have antibodies and are reacting to the spike protein like it's Covid. The second exposure is like the second vax - it can be more strong. Something along those lines.

How long ago was she vaccined before she visited? Guessing it was recent. It should have no effect after 2-3 weeks.

Soooo true! Autoimmune disease is triggered by mycoplasma bacteria - read "The New Arthritis Breakthrough", by Henry Scammell. Now we have Ivermectin for Covid, Fenbendazole working for many with previously short-term, terminal cancer, etc.

Flffy...You may want to listen to Cliff"s explanation
for some of this stuff. He goes into the VAX'D versus the
UN-VAX'd issue very thoroughly and it really helped me to
understand a lot more. This is the thread he is on tonight.
I'm surprised this made it through the GLP banned words
program--but there it is!

Thread: The Vaccine Wars Clif talks

Enjoy!


The Oracle's Cookie

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Last Edited by Beetlepumprr on 06/20/2021 04:53 AM

I've been seeing tons of propaganda, mailed flyers and disgusting ads on youtube pushing the vaccine, and they never, ever mention that it is contraindicated for some people.

I remember when they were saying if you had had the virus you shouldn't get the shot. Did that change? I was super sick from mid-December 2019 to mid-January 2020 with effects lingering until late March and beyond. I know how to take care of myself but I suppose that was the sickest I've ever been. However I was extremely overworked and run down and I believe I was also having a reaction to toxic materials in a memory foam mattress topper.

But if I had had the virus, then that's a contraindication for the shot. Do they even ask you anything? I would never take it on principle, but if someone does, do they even ask you the things they said when this started? They said if you had ever had a bad reaction to a flu shot, or any other vaccine, you shouldn't get this one.

The ingredient is Suramin. It is an injectable pharma product. Only by prescription. That is what the pine needle tea produces at far less strength. Dr Judy told us this.

I also stealth posted here:
Thread: Flushing spike protein out of the body ...

Dizziness? There was a thread on that a few days ago, or rather someone saying that they had terrible vertigo. Seems others chimed in too.

Someone I know had a dreadful time for over 10 days and doubled the medication she had been given by the doctor - yes, she was jabbed. I have now heard from a jabbed friend about 3 of her friends who have had dizzy spells. Obvioulsy they will not put it down to the jab, but I know they have all been jabbed.

Hubs and I went to north Texas to pick up granddaughter and took her to south Texas to visit the rest of the family and attend our grandson's birthday party. All 3 of us have had Covid but are not vaxxed while most of the rest of the family has been.

Now our granddaughter and I are covered with unexplained bruises and for the first time in years I got menstrual type cramps- I haven't had a period or cramps in years!

Thank goodness none of us got really sick!

Thanks for all the replies, everyone!

I made a white pine needle extract which we're taking. Perhaps we need to take more. Again in the different percentage of desired compound arena as no way to standardize the level of suramin in a home extraction.

It seems like my hypothesis may have merit. Hopefully we can get this information out and find effective means to thwart this.

I was thinking about putting our experience into the Vaers database....

I'm sure there are a TON MORE UN-VAX'D PEOPLE on GLP who have
1) noticed strange physical symptoms after being around
a friend or loved one WHO HAS HAD THE SHOT: 2) have very
strong mis-givings about whether or not they should be
cautious of how much time the spend around someone who has
been VAX'd IF THIS IS REAL: 3) are ASKING THE QUESTION:
if there is even a small chance for some COVID-SURVIVORS
WHO ARE OVER-SENSITIVE TO SPIKE SHEDDING...why the hell
isn't research being done immediately to isolate this
in a scientific study? 4) is there some kind of AGENDA
with big pharma and the vaccine-pushing-crowd to AVOID
even doing the research that might prove anything NEGATIVE
about this gene therapy shot?

All of these things are VALID and at the least "life-saving"
measures that in any other UNIVERSE would be done immediately
if there weren't some kind of obvious effort to CENSOR
negative information about this vaccination program. For
God's sake...people are SUFFERING!

I would love to hear anyone else's in-put on these questions
and what you personally think.

Excellent thread topic, 1GuyAZ...we need one of these
super-pinned so we can discuss this daily IMHO!!




The Oracle's Cookie

Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 06/20/2021 02:08 PM

You said:

I was thinking about putting our experience into the Vaers database....

Um, Fluffy My Friend...I for one--who has posted on this thread--would
respectfully ask you to NOT POST THIS ON VAERS--just for
the sake of our annonymity concerns. It's o.k. with me
if you post it with just your name and computer I.P.
as the reporting agent--but please do not involve any
reporting that might reflect scrutiny to GLP's discussion
or specific posters on your thread.

These are GOVERNMENT/WHO SITES...you need to be very careful!

Just sayin!

:MASSYsays:


The Oracle's Cookie

Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 06/20/2021 02:07 PM

Oracle's Cookie, I wouldn't ever put anyone else into any database. It's just very difficult to find anything on this particular aspect of those who've taken the shot affecting those who've recovered from Covid. I couldn't find anything at all.

I've tried to contact the doctors who are speaking out against the shot, but get no reply.

The reason I was thinking of entering it to Vaers is just to get others onto the issue.

It's a big deal, really. And I very much wonder about the effects of the people who have taken the shot on women in their proximity. And whether or not many of those with menstrual problems and unvaxxed may have had mild Covid and this reaction to the spike proteins might be like a hyperdrive antibody reaction.