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User ID: 79524545 United States 06/17/2021 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video My question though OC is that every time a pole shift or micro nova event thread is posted no one discusses the fact that there are 400+ nuclear power plants around the globe that will all become Fukushima events. Quoting: G3 They were not around 12,000 years ago. So even if there are pole shift survivors I don't see how they would survive the radiation from those plants. Maybe you have discussed this in the past so I apologize in advance if you have, I missed it. That is a very good question about the NUKE PLANTS and how this very dangerous technology during a global disaster might work against our survival chances... The government--as Doug Vogt has POINTED OUT at the 8-13 minute mark in that video he hosts in my intro--HAS KNOWN about the sun's cycle at least since the LATE 1950'S altho this was never made public and was "classified." They most likely will BEGIN TO DECOMMISSION the nuke plants as we get closer to the actual event (and to be sure they know even BETTER THAN OUR "CITIZEN SCIENTISTS" when this will happen precisely)...so that is ONE THING to watch for with regard to how close this is to happening. I wouldn't have even though to LOOK AT THE NUKE PLANTS and what the gov. does with them (not all at once, of course as that would cause panic) for your "heads-up." That's a really important point! Thanks for that question! The Oracle's Cookie Interesting take TOC, but I don't think they'll care. It's the end of the world as they know it. The gov't DUMBS are poorly positioned and designed anyway. There was a gov't RFQ for snow melting (laser)systems because they realized(a recent Doug Vogt vid) there will be miles of snow over their locations, blocking ventilation. |
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(OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 06/17/2021 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video I'm quite the dummy when it comes to this stuff but I do know that for some reason the weather is different, the light looks different, the seasons feel different. My plants don't grow like they used to. Quoting: StellaBlue And a geomagnetic storm gives me headaches and fatigue as well as joint and muscle pain. Used to be just high yellow or red but I seem to be getting more sensitive to it as I age, and the threshold is diminishing. Not a science tard but definitely a feelings tard, heh. 5 stars, love your cool threads OC Well said, StellaBlue! I wonder if you have felt a little "poorly" the past week or so? I know I have really been "under the influence" of spaceweather. Did you see the Schumann resonance the past few days? TOTAL WHITE OUTS. My symptoms are more dizzyness and "foggy brainiacITIS" when I get hit. Here is Ben Davidson's own SPACEWEATHER "SYMPTOMS" CHART WHEN THE KP INDEX GOES HIGHER. Not everyone is sensitive to these changes--but if you have say an Rh- blood type you can BET YOU FEEL IT! Check it out: :CosmicRAhealth: June 3rd when the Magnatar eruption hit us...I was so dizzy I DROPPED A 3 LAYER CHOCOLATE BIRTHDAY CAKE (mine) on the floor! Wow...now THAT was a bummer. I should have been more careful, but I hadn't as yet seen the charts for the magnatar POWER. Look at the charts. The "normal" is on top...the June 3rd "hit" shows at least DOUBLE the normal strength and duration. We really got WHACKED! :NORMALgrb: Normal versus unusual gamma ray burst strength and...JUNE 3RD 2021 (from spaceweather siteEarthboppin): [link to earthboppin.net] REALLY BIG ONE! The Oracle's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: SNAKE-in Bank of America Mural? SYMBOLISM/code NOW Revisited W/CURRENT NEWS! Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, |
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(OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 06/17/2021 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video That's what I assume will happen if the sun has a micro nova. But I've read that one theory why animals froze in place while feeding over 10,000 years ago is because of a micro burst of the sun. A burst that triggered massive cold in parts of the Earth. Maybe both super hot and super cold occurs? Yes that's exactly what happens. This is what the entire series is about. THIS is the meaning (in my opinion) of the "Yin/Yang" symbolism. 1/2 the planet is bathed in heat and 1/2 in ice. Amazing that this could all happen at once! The Oracle's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: SNAKE-in Bank of America Mural? SYMBOLISM/code NOW Revisited W/CURRENT NEWS! Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, |
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User ID: 72616895 United States 06/17/2021 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video I'm quite the dummy when it comes to this stuff but I do know that for some reason the weather is different, the light looks different, the seasons feel different. My plants don't grow like they used to. Quoting: StellaBlue And a geomagnetic storm gives me headaches and fatigue as well as joint and muscle pain. Used to be just high yellow or red but I seem to be getting more sensitive to it as I age, and the threshold is diminishing. Not a science tard but definitely a feelings tard, heh. 5 stars, love your cool threads OC Well said, StellaBlue! I wonder if you have felt a little "poorly" the past week or so? I know I have really been "under the influence" of spaceweather. Did you see the Schumann resonance the past few days? TOTAL WHITE OUTS. My symptoms are more dizzyness and "foggy brainiacITIS" when I get hit. Here is Ben Davidson's own SPACEWEATHER "SYMPTOMS" CHART WHEN THE KP INDEX GOES HIGHER. Not everyone is sensitive to these changes--but if you have say an Rh- blood type you can BET YOU FEEL IT! Check it out: :CosmicRAhealth: June 3rd when the Magnatar eruption hit us...I was so dizzy I DROPPED A 3 LAYER CHOCOLATE BIRTHDAY CAKE (mine) on the floor! Wow...now THAT was a bummer. I should have been more careful, but I hadn't as yet seen the charts for the magnatar POWER. Look at the charts. The "normal" is on top...the June 3rd "hit" shows at least DOUBLE the normal strength and duration. We really got WHACKED! :NORMALgrb: Normal versus unusual gamma ray burst strength and...JUNE 3RD 2021 (from spaceweather siteEarthboppin): [link to earthboppin.net] REALLY BIG ONE! The Oracle's Cookie I've been really dizzy for the past few days. Mostly when I'm laying down. But the other day I had this really weird type of pressure that I still can't put into words....Like a pressure headache but with no pain. I'm trying to look at that site you just posted, but I've stayed away from tracking solar doom because I just have no idea what I am looking at, lol. The best stories are told by the survivors. |
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User ID: 80251587 United States 06/17/2021 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video Isn't a micro nova just a very large flare with a large CME Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79875786 superflare. I didn't know a superflare was even disputed to exist. A 12000 year potential extinction cycle seems unlikely, I could see it augmenting the Milankovitch cycles, as these cycles average more on the 100k side though, however sometimes cycling longer or more quickly, it would appear at best to be nothing more than a variance that at times is potentially a catalysts Um...NO. Your best bet--and please just keep an open mind as some of this information is going to "rewrite" your college classes on solar mechanics!--is to WATCH THIS VIDEO. I call it Vogt's Solar Micro-nova 101 CLASS! It is a bit much to get through, I will agree to that...but what he presents you will NOT FIND ALL IN ONE PLACE in any other videos--including Ben's. Take this all in "baby steps." But if you wish to know about this, you have to do a little homework. Enjoy the journey! (By the way, this event IS SURVIVABLE even though it does sound extreme. You are HERE right? That means you are the ancestors of solar micro-nova SURVIVORS. Just keep that in mind if you find the info alarming.) The Oracle's Cookie My question though OC is that every time a pole shift or micro nova event thread is posted no one discusses the fact that there are 400+ nuclear power plants around the globe that will all become Fukushima events. They were not around 12,000 years ago. So even if there are pole shift survivors I don't see how they would survive the radiation from those plants. Maybe you have discussed this in the past so I apologize in advance if you have, I missed it. That is a very good question about the NUKE PLANTS and how this very dangerous technology during a global disaster might work against our survival chances... The government--as Doug Vogt has POINTED OUT at the 8-13 minute mark in that video he hosts in my intro--HAS KNOWN about the sun's cycle at least since the LATE 1950'S altho this was never made public and was "classified." They most likely will BEGIN TO DECOMMISSION the nuke plants as we get closer to the actual event (and to be sure they know even BETTER THAN OUR "CITIZEN SCIENTISTS" when this will happen precisely)...so that is ONE THING to watch for with regard to how close this is to happening. I wouldn't have even though to LOOK AT THE NUKE PLANTS and what the gov. does with them (not all at once, of course as that would cause panic) for your "heads-up." That's a really important point! Thanks for that question! The Oracle's Cookie |
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(OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 06/17/2021 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video I'm quite the dummy when it comes to this stuff but I do know that for some reason the weather is different, the light looks different, the seasons feel different. My plants don't grow like they used to. Quoting: StellaBlue And a geomagnetic storm gives me headaches and fatigue as well as joint and muscle pain. Used to be just high yellow or red but I seem to be getting more sensitive to it as I age, and the threshold is diminishing. Not a science tard but definitely a feelings tard, heh. 5 stars, love your cool threads OC Same here. Wife and I first check the barometer, then space weather for those same symptoms. Heck with the barometer. You are both correct. That has changed. Pharaonic Egypt existed beneath a red sun. Great symbolic pictures you have their Louis!! I have a "treat" for you--since you LOVE NEW THEORIES and this one will boggle your mind! An obscure book called: "Vela The Once and Future Star" by George Michanowski comes from deciphered SUMMERIAN CARVINGS as to the "disaster 12,000 years ago" that hit Egypt not many folks have even heard about. THERE WAS THE YELLOW SUN...AND THERE WAS THE RED SUN (VELA)..THEY WERE BOTH IN THE SKY AT THE SAME TIME AT DAWN AND SUNSET (according to Michanowski.) Your pictures even reflect its reality. Michanowski reports that at the time of the last micro-nova event TWO SUNS graced the heaven. Our SOL STAR and a 2nd sun...the red giant Vela. The Galactic Super Wave TRIGGERED the red giant Vela to supernova just as all the in-bound energy from our own sun's solar micro-nova happened --a ONE=TWO-PUNCH! This picture SHOWS the 2 suns with the arrows most likely the energies coming from the "gods" that caused/triggered her explosion and disappearance from the Egyptian horizon. :ANKHatSUNSET: as a TAT: :KhepriAnkh: Vela even had her own GODDESS at that time..It was called Khepra and her avatar was THE BEETLE. She is the central avatar animal in the King Tut artifact below: Some believe we have 2 suns today in the Heavens. What we have is the pre-micro nova sun...and the EXPANDING CENTRAL CORE STAR of the milky way that will (and maybe is even presently) throwing out the Galactic Super Wave! (My "take" but I stick by it!) The Oracle's Cookie Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 06/17/2021 06:53 PM "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: SNAKE-in Bank of America Mural? SYMBOLISM/code NOW Revisited W/CURRENT NEWS! Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79875786 United States 06/17/2021 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video To those of you that mentioned the nuclear power plants worldwide. The grid going down for any reason could be the worst event in historical memory. Interestingly enough all the authors on the subject focus of food shortage, infrastructure breakdown as connected to transportation etc. i.e medicine , food, law and order. And of the lists of most dangerous difficulties, I never once read nuclear power plants ,once th backup gens fail. I myself always thought this very odd |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79875786 United States 06/17/2021 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video 12,000 year extinction events are just SO short in the scheme of things… I have a hard time with that only because of all the fossils of Neanderthal’s, and even us that have been found that long outlast the 12k extinction cycle let alone the dinosaurs… the dinosaurs (and the same species) have been around for literally millions of years and this is fact… I’ve listened to and watched almost all of Diebolds videos and I don’t know if anyone’s watched the “How to survive the event” series but it’s f’n almost impossible. How the hell are dumb as rocks dinosaurs who existed for literally millions of years at a time able to withstand a cataclysm every 12,000 years? Especially of this magnitude…? I mean it’s a good question worth thinking about ya? Quoting: $ebC@in Exactly, there is a processional cycle, as many others , sometimes they overlap to create superflares for various reasons. The science is most likely speculation at this point, and never successfully predicted via telescopes , gravity waves etc. just a hunch |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79875786 United States 06/17/2021 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video micro nova could be fake just as nasa observatory and mars landing gear Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77906400 who knows they are controlled by the Nazis Not likely, A.C.6400. This announcement and the "featured videos" are coming from "citizen scientist researchers"--AND NOT THE GOVERNMENT --these guys have no skin in the game to TRICK YOU and in fact are letting you in on what was classified information to give you a "running chance" to get ready as best you can manage. It's not "fake" as there's no reason for them to run a scam on you for this info. No Nazis here, thank goodness! The Oracle's Cookie Are you claiming fear based doom videos are not monetized as an industry ? These people are not monetizing videos ? Are you claiming monetizing does not create incentive to produce such videos ? I am confused |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80498115 Spain 06/17/2021 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video Oracle, I have been following Ben's videos as well as studying in depth his latest book "The Next End of the World". Quoting: darth He provides some evidence that we are actually seeing the effects of the galactic wave that is impacting our solar system. What is startling is to realize that a micro nova of our own star is possible, not in decades or hundreds of years, but SHOON. The book "Cataclysm" details how HUNDREDS of myths and legends around the world talk about the last micro nova/pole shift and how they survived it. Like the Bible advised, "flee to the mountains". It describes how people will survive in caves in the mountains. I am not sure how much warning we will get of such an event. Still studying..... There is no evidence of an event called 'micronova'. In the Solar System, such event would left such amount of residues that it would be easy to detect their signatures: 1. The ground, where the plants live, would be so radioactive, that the silicates would be poison to the oxigen producters: thanks to the aerobics organisms, you can be here. 2. To be an eukariotic cell, requires time. To be a multicellular and brained human requires the solar system stability to be able to think about it. Do not be a fool in your last years: The glass in the Moon is due to the stones at ballistic velocity: 1000 º C - 1500 º C is enought to cristalize a rock. I have a furnace in mi family house where all the mamas have been firing up all the wood, the wasted stuff. The stone, down to the trash, is always hot, always being summer. La gente, desde tiempos inmemoriales, calentaba las piedras en el fuego, para que, cuando estuvieran calientes, las metiera en la cama, para calentarse. Unas piedras calientes, al lado de la cama, calientan, incluso, al más pintado... When the winter is cold, the furnace is cold, but it has wood, garbage and our get back to the fire the junkie. How much do I need to fire my house, if my home is in my loved? Do not be a fool in your last years, engineer... Humbly Dod |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79875786 United States 06/17/2021 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video One more thought.... although plasma filaments are isotopic in perspective at certain scales, the density varies greatly. For all stars to superflare in sequence would take something truly rare and amazing..Any reconnection event triggered by the sorrounding plasma filaments would be be different in scale, magnitude , and event timing, fervent ferocity, and effect on earth via suns reaction otherwise; as comparing inter systems . Just a thought. It would take a massive event from intergalactic interactions or a plasmoid in the center of the galaxy , or both, to produce such a thing at first thought , and would not be dependent on the earth processional cycle . This is my instinct ...... Galaxies interacting could become constant at a point of galaxy cannibalizing, or group interactions , these are things I think we are not good viewing or understanding . Who has watched the entire process of galaxies merging? Galaxies interacting in groups for milllions or even billions of years ? |
This Is Not Me
User ID: 46559905 United States 06/17/2021 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video Oracle, I have been following Ben's videos as well as studying in depth his latest book "The Next End of the World". Quoting: darth He provides some evidence that we are actually seeing the effects of the galactic wave that is impacting our solar system. What is startling is to realize that a micro nova of our own star is possible, not in decades or hundreds of years, but SHOON. The book "Cataclysm" details how HUNDREDS of myths and legends around the world talk about the last micro nova/pole shift and how they survived it. Like the Bible advised, "flee to the mountains". It describes how people will survive in caves in the mountains. I am not sure how much warning we will get of such an event. Still studying..... There is no evidence of an event called 'micronova'. In the Solar System, such event would left such amount of residues that it would be easy to detect their signatures: 1. The ground, where the plants live, would be so radioactive, that the silicates would be poison to the oxigen producters: thanks to the aerobics organisms, you can be here. 2. To be an eukariotic cell, requires time. To be a multicellular and brained human requires the solar system stability to be able to think about it. Do not be a fool in your last years: The glass in the Moon is due to the stones at ballistic velocity: 1000 º C - 1500 º C is enought to cristalize a rock. I have a furnace in mi family house where all the mamas have been firing up all the wood, the wasted stuff. The stone, down to the trash, is always hot, always being summer. La gente, desde tiempos inmemoriales, calentaba las piedras en el fuego, para que, cuando estuvieran calientes, las metiera en la cama, para calentarse. Unas piedras calientes, al lado de la cama, calientan, incluso, al más pintado... When the winter is cold, the furnace is cold, but it has wood, garbage and our get back to the fire the junkie. How much do I need to fire my house, if my home is in my loved? Do not be a fool in your last years, engineer... Humbly Dod Wrong. Impacts don't create radioactive isotopes nor the fission tracks found here and on the moon. There is plenty of evidence throughout the solar system. Last Edited by This Is Not Me on 06/17/2021 06:34 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79875786 United States 06/17/2021 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video One more thought.... although plasma filaments are isotopic in perspective at certain scales, the density varies greatly. For all stars to superflare in sequence would take something truly rare and amazing..Any reconnection event triggered by the sorrounding plasma filaments would be be different in scale, magnitude , and event timing, fervent ferocity, and effect on earth via suns reaction otherwise; as comparing inter systems . Just a thought. It would take a massive event from intergalactic interactions or a plasmoid in the center of the galaxy , or both, to produce such a thing at first thought , and would not be dependent on the earth processional cycle . This is my instinct ...... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79875786 Galaxies interacting could become constant at a point of galaxy cannibalizing, or group interactions , these are things I think we are not good viewing or understanding . Who has watched the entire process of galaxies merging? Galaxies interacting in groups for milllions or even billions of years ? So let's say plasmodia are at the center of galaxies, and two merge ? I could see that doing it, to every star in both galaxies in sequence...but how would that have anything to do where the earth was in its precessional cycle ? Like are you claiming all stars are in a processional cycle that are synchronized ? Isotropically , throughout the galaxy ? Because this just is not true. Logic output, how could all stars micro nova due to process in sequence when the processions are not in sequence? |
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(OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 06/17/2021 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video My question though OC is that every time a pole shift or micro nova event thread is posted no one discusses the fact that there are 400+ nuclear power plants around the globe that will all become Fukushima events. Quoting: G3 They were not around 12,000 years ago. So even if there are pole shift survivors I don't see how they would survive the radiation from those plants. Maybe you have discussed this in the past so I apologize in advance if you have, I missed it. That is a very good question about the NUKE PLANTS and how this very dangerous technology during a global disaster might work against our survival chances... The government--as Doug Vogt has POINTED OUT at the 8-13 minute mark in that video he hosts in my intro--HAS KNOWN about the sun's cycle at least since the LATE 1950'S altho this was never made public and was "classified." They most likely will BEGIN TO DECOMMISSION the nuke plants as we get closer to the actual event (and to be sure they know even BETTER THAN OUR "CITIZEN SCIENTISTS" when this will happen precisely)...so that is ONE THING to watch for with regard to how close this is to happening. I wouldn't have even though to LOOK AT THE NUKE PLANTS and what the gov. does with them (not all at once, of course as that would cause panic) for your "heads-up." That's a really important point! Thanks for that question! The Oracle's Cookie Interesting take TOC, but I don't think they'll care. It's the end of the world as they know it. The gov't DUMBS are poorly positioned and designed anyway. There was a gov't RFQ for snow melting (laser)systems because they realized(a recent Doug Vogt vid) there will be miles of snow over their locations, blocking ventilation. If it didn't read like a f'ing GREEK TRAGEDY that all this TIME AND MONEY was wasted building THE WRONG DESIGN ...IN THE WRONG PLACE...it would be funny. Vogt really must have them shaken up with his report. The Oracle's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: SNAKE-in Bank of America Mural? SYMBOLISM/code NOW Revisited W/CURRENT NEWS! Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, |
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User ID: 79524545 United States 06/17/2021 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video And the thought of all stars going superflare in perfect sequence would have to be a very rare event indeed, and would potentially wipe out all life in the galaxy. I mean would something like this also trigger actual novas as well ? Why not, black hole formations ? Why not...Leading to gamma ray burts from our own galaxy why not ? if you really like your doom porn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79875786 Let's crank it uo More like a network reboot. We are talking about an advanced dimension being here, not with the limitations of our dimension. The suns/stars are connection points/energy vectors for the other dimensions programming and control of this dimension. Every so often there is a system clean up(nova), to what extent?, a file, a process, a program, the whole operating system? I think its a interesting theory. |
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User ID: 28178764 United States 06/17/2021 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video Oracle, I just got back from the VA hospital where I had some minor surgery this afternoon. I really wanted to drop a pain pill and hit a couple of shots of whiskey, but.... I decided to watch the first Vogt video you posted. My critiques: 1. He injects a lot of his own theories into the discussion. For example, he says that the evaporation of the oceans happens in one day. How does he KNOW this? 2. He makes a lot of assumptions and uses religious references such as "God is both male and female" which also detracts from his credibility. 3. More mistakes on his part which my befuddled brain is not regurgitating right now....so That said, he makes some interesting points. Bravo! He was one of the pioneers in understanding the pole flip/micro nova and assorted catastrophic events. Despite the fact that he is a retired accountant, I still find his work very valuable. I should not criticize his credentials too much. My first degree was in military engineering, my masters in Econ, my first career was aerospace engineering, and now I am a metal surface finishing engineer for almost 20 years. I am still not much of an accountant. I can think of alternatives to explain some of the phenomena, e.g., massive volcanoes would be awakened all over the world including subsea ones. There is enough energy there to account for the evaporation of the oceans. This could have taken centuries, not hours or days. BTW, while in the VA waiting room I reviewed the book "Cataclysm" again. That book forecast a return of Phaeton/Nibiru in 2012 which obviously did not happen. However, the strength of that author was in his incredible footnotes and listing of phenomena and oral traditions world-wide. For instance, he documents the Alaskan and Siberian "muck" pits. Did you know that not only do those pits have Arctic and megafauna remains, but also hold bits of insects and plant material from tropical regions? How the hell did tropical insects get swept up to Alaska and deposited with shredded mammoths? That must have been one hell of a windstorm....just like Vogt forecasts. When you dig that shelter, brethren, did DEEP! |
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(OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 06/17/2021 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video micro nova could be fake just as nasa observatory and mars landing gear Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77906400 who knows they are controlled by the Nazis Not likely, A.C.6400. This announcement and the "featured videos" are coming from "citizen scientist researchers"--AND NOT THE GOVERNMENT --these guys have no skin in the game to TRICK YOU and in fact are letting you in on what was classified information to give you a "running chance" to get ready as best you can manage. It's not "fake" as there's no reason for them to run a scam on you for this info. No Nazis here, thank goodness! The Oracle's Cookie Are you claiming fear based doom videos are not monetized as an industry ? These people are not monetizing videos ? Are you claiming monetizing does not create incentive to produce such videos ? I am confused I doubt you are confused. Your post is to PURELY DEBUNK and disrupt the thread. Of course, money is to be made...but I doubt these guys (after I have watched them for years and fact-checked their material would make this up. You can do your own research on Dr. Laviolette who has co-signed on Ben Davidson's "Catastrophe Series" his material is credible. Don't post anymore B.S. please The Oracle's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: SNAKE-in Bank of America Mural? SYMBOLISM/code NOW Revisited W/CURRENT NEWS! Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, |
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(OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 06/17/2021 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video Oracle, I have been following Ben's videos as well as studying in depth his latest book "The Next End of the World". Quoting: darth He provides some evidence that we are actually seeing the effects of the galactic wave that is impacting our solar system. What is startling is to realize that a micro nova of our own star is possible, not in decades or hundreds of years, but SHOON. The book "Cataclysm" details how HUNDREDS of myths and legends around the world talk about the last micro nova/pole shift and how they survived it. Like the Bible advised, "flee to the mountains". It describes how people will survive in caves in the mountains. I am not sure how much warning we will get of such an event. Still studying..... There is no evidence of an event called 'micronova'. In the Solar System, such event would left such amount of residues that it would be easy to detect their signatures: 1. The ground, where the plants live, would be so radioactive, that the silicates would be poison to the oxigen producters: thanks to the aerobics organisms, you can be here. 2. To be an eukariotic cell, requires time. To be a multicellular and brained human requires the solar system stability to be able to think about it. Do not be a fool in your last years: The glass in the Moon is due to the stones at ballistic velocity: 1000 º C - 1500 º C is enought to cristalize a rock. I have a furnace in mi family house where all the mamas have been firing up all the wood, the wasted stuff. The stone, down to the trash, is always hot, always being summer. La gente, desde tiempos inmemoriales, calentaba las piedras en el fuego, para que, cuando estuvieran calientes, las metiera en la cama, para calentarse. Unas piedras calientes, al lado de la cama, calientan, incluso, al más pintado... When the winter is cold, the furnace is cold, but it has wood, garbage and our get back to the fire the junkie. How much do I need to fire my house, if my home is in my loved? Do not be a fool in your last years, engineer... Humbly Dod You can answer your own questions (if they are in fact questions and not rhetorical statements) by watching at least the FIRST IN THE SERIES OF DR. VOGT'S PRESENTATIONS. I will even be so patient with your rant as to post the video you should avail yourself--but I won't just hold your hand...you need to do the HOMEWORK like so many others following this topic have done on GLP: [link to youtu.be (secure)] I'm not going to take the time myself to even answer those questions or respond to your "old school science" if you haven't at least looked over the material for the topic. You may have classic "cognitive dissonance" --being in the sciences yourself and having ascribed to the "official narrative" that you can't open your mind to new ideas and theories. Vogt, Davidson and LaViolette--JUST THREE YOU CAN RESEARCH --OFFER IDEAS that can connect-the-dots where so much is speculation and disinformation in current science. It resonates with me--and at least one of the threads on this material is approaching over 100,000 views... so I suspect OTHERS are finding this credible. Sorry it bothers you so much. The Oracle's Cookie Last Edited by The Oracle's Cookie on 06/17/2021 07:07 PM "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: SNAKE-in Bank of America Mural? SYMBOLISM/code NOW Revisited W/CURRENT NEWS! Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, |
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(OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 06/17/2021 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video Oracle, I just got back from the VA hospital where I had some minor surgery this afternoon. Quoting: darth I really wanted to drop a pain pill and hit a couple of shots of whiskey, but.... I decided to watch the first Vogt video you posted. My critiques: 1. He injects a lot of his own theories into the discussion. For example, he says that the evaporation of the oceans happens in one day. How does he KNOW this? 2. He makes a lot of assumptions and uses religious references such as "God is both male and female" which also detracts from his credibility. 3. More mistakes on his part which my befuddled brain is not regurgitating right now....so That said, he makes some interesting points. Bravo! He was one of the pioneers in understanding the pole flip/micro nova and assorted catastrophic events. Despite the fact that he is a retired accountant, I still find his work very valuable. I should not criticize his credentials too much. My first degree was in military engineering, my masters in Econ, my first career was aerospace engineering, and now I am a metal surface finishing engineer for almost 20 years. I am still not much of an accountant. I can think of alternatives to explain some of the phenomena, e.g., massive volcanoes would be awakened all over the world including subsea ones. There is enough energy there to account for the evaporation of the oceans. This could have taken centuries, not hours or days. BTW, while in the VA waiting room I reviewed the book "Cataclysm" again. That book forecast a return of Phaeton/Nibiru in 2012 which obviously did not happen. However, the strength of that author was in his incredible footnotes and listing of phenomena and oral traditions world-wide. For instance, he documents the Alaskan and Siberian "muck" pits. Did you know that not only do those pits have Arctic and megafauna remains, but also hold bits of insects and plant material from tropical regions? How the hell did tropical insects get swept up to Alaska and deposited with shredded mammoths? That must have been one hell of a windstorm....just like Vogt forecasts. When you dig that shelter, brethren, dig DEEP! Geeze, sorry to hear about your health problems. Dropping a pain pill with whiskey...o.k. Yes, he is FLAWED in many areas...but over all his theory is well supported by what he offers in his presentation. I personally believe VELIKOVSKY and that there is, in fact, a PHYSICAL pole shift and the tsunami's which accompany that event DO SWEEP ANIMALS, INSECTS AND MEGAFAUNA TO ALASKA! Just take what you want and leave the rest. At least you come away WITH SOME CRUMBS OF INFORMATION...THAT IS MORE THAN YOU WILL GET ON THIS TOPIC FROM NASA! Be happy! The Oracle's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: SNAKE-in Bank of America Mural? SYMBOLISM/code NOW Revisited W/CURRENT NEWS! Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, |
darth
User ID: 28178764 United States 06/17/2021 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video Oracle, I have been following Ben's videos as well as studying in depth his latest book "The Next End of the World". Quoting: darth He provides some evidence that we are actually seeing the effects of the galactic wave that is impacting our solar system. What is startling is to realize that a micro nova of our own star is possible, not in decades or hundreds of years, but SHOON. The book "Cataclysm" details how HUNDREDS of myths and legends around the world talk about the last micro nova/pole shift and how they survived it. Like the Bible advised, "flee to the mountains". It describes how people will survive in caves in the mountains. I am not sure how much warning we will get of such an event. Still studying..... There is no evidence of an event called 'micronova'. In the Solar System, such event would left such amount of residues that it would be easy to detect their signatures: 1. The ground, where the plants live, would be so radioactive, that the silicates would be poison to the oxigen producters: thanks to the aerobics organisms, you can be here. 2. To be an eukariotic cell, requires time. To be a multicellular and brained human requires the solar system stability to be able to think about it. Do not be a fool in your last years: The glass in the Moon is due to the stones at ballistic velocity: 1000 º C - 1500 º C is enought to cristalize a rock. I have a furnace in mi family house where all the mamas have been firing up all the wood, the wasted stuff. The stone, down to the trash, is always hot, always being summer. La gente, desde tiempos inmemoriales, calentaba las piedras en el fuego, para que, cuando estuvieran calientes, las metiera en la cama, para calentarse. Unas piedras calientes, al lado de la cama, calientan, incluso, al más pintado... When the winter is cold, the furnace is cold, but it has wood, garbage and our get back to the fire the junkie. How much do I need to fire my house, if my home is in my loved? Do not be a fool in your last years, engineer... Humbly Dod Dod, if that is your handle, I am not a fool. No soy estipdo. Usted esta confusado. Pienso que yo tengo much mas educacion que usted en sciencia. Your words are a bit confusing. I assume that Spanish is your primary language. So, the part of your message which WAS clear was that people used heated stones in their beds. What does that have to do with the subject at hand? Why do you assume that a micro nova would have sterilized the earth down to microbes? Clearly that did not occur at any time in our history. As for evidence of a micro nova, Ben Davidson and others explained that very well in their videos and books. For example, the micro tektites on both Earth and Luna have radioactive elements such as Aluminum 26 which astronomers tell us are ONLY produced in novae. However, if the nova was distant, the elements would have decayed before they could have arrived. If the nova was another nearby star and a normal nova, it would have sterilized our planet. Therefore, it looks like it was Sol that has the micro nova. The glass surfaces on Luna could not have been made by impactors. Those surfaces show evidence of great solar heat. BTW, if you are insulting, I think OC will shortly remove you. Shalom |
darth
User ID: 28178764 United States 06/17/2021 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video My question though OC is that every time a pole shift or micro nova event thread is posted no one discusses the fact that there are 400+ nuclear power plants around the globe that will all become Fukushima events. Quoting: G3 They were not around 12,000 years ago. So even if there are pole shift survivors I don't see how they would survive the radiation from those plants. Maybe you have discussed this in the past so I apologize in advance if you have, I missed it. That is a very good question about the NUKE PLANTS and how this very dangerous technology during a global disaster might work against our survival chances... The government--as Doug Vogt has POINTED OUT at the 8-13 minute mark in that video he hosts in my intro--HAS KNOWN about the sun's cycle at least since the LATE 1950'S altho this was never made public and was "classified." They most likely will BEGIN TO DECOMMISSION the nuke plants as we get closer to the actual event (and to be sure they know even BETTER THAN OUR "CITIZEN SCIENTISTS" when this will happen precisely)...so that is ONE THING to watch for with regard to how close this is to happening. I wouldn't have even though to LOOK AT THE NUKE PLANTS and what the gov. does with them (not all at once, of course as that would cause panic) for your "heads-up." That's a really important point! Thanks for that question! The Oracle's Cookie Interesting take TOC, but I don't think they'll care. It's the end of the world as they know it. The gov't DUMBS are poorly positioned and designed anyway. There was a gov't RFQ for snow melting (laser)systems because they realized(a recent Doug Vogt vid) there will be miles of snow over their locations, blocking ventilation. If it didn't read like a f'ing GREEK TRAGEDY that all this TIME AND MONEY was wasted building THE WRONG DESIGN ...IN THE WRONG PLACE...it would be funny. Vogt really must have them shaken up with his report. The Oracle's Cookie OC, I was in the military and aerospace for a long time. The original purpose of DUMBS was to survive and win nuke wars, not pole flips, etc. I suspect that few even knew about Chan Thomas, et al, back when they started the DUMBs. |
uscrusader1
User ID: 79524545 United States 06/17/2021 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video Oracle, I just got back from the VA hospital where I had some minor surgery this afternoon. Quoting: darth I really wanted to drop a pain pill and hit a couple of shots of whiskey, but.... I decided to watch the first Vogt video you posted. My critiques: 1. He injects a lot of his own theories into the discussion. For example, he says that the evaporation of the oceans happens in one day. How does he KNOW this? 2. He makes a lot of assumptions and uses religious references such as "God is both male and female" which also detracts from his credibility. 3. More mistakes on his part which my befuddled brain is not regurgitating right now....so That said, he makes some interesting points. Bravo! He was one of the pioneers in understanding the pole flip/micro nova and assorted catastrophic events. Despite the fact that he is a retired accountant, I still find his work very valuable. I should not criticize his credentials too much. My first degree was in military engineering, my masters in Econ, my first career was aerospace engineering, and now I am a metal surface finishing engineer for almost 20 years. I am still not much of an accountant. I can think of alternatives to explain some of the phenomena, e.g., massive volcanoes would be awakened all over the world including subsea ones. There is enough energy there to account for the evaporation of the oceans. This could have taken centuries, not hours or days. BTW, while in the VA waiting room I reviewed the book "Cataclysm" again. That book forecast a return of Phaeton/Nibiru in 2012 which obviously did not happen. However, the strength of that author was in his incredible footnotes and listing of phenomena and oral traditions world-wide. For instance, he documents the Alaskan and Siberian "muck" pits. Did you know that not only do those pits have Arctic and megafauna remains, but also hold bits of insects and plant material from tropical regions? How the hell did tropical insects get swept up to Alaska and deposited with shredded mammoths? That must have been one hell of a windstorm....just like Vogt forecasts. When you dig that shelter, brethren, did DEEP! Hey darth, We're both engineers. What do YOU think are the chances of a 12K year cycle happening with 'days' tolerances. And Vogt is so 'sure' he's got it nailed down even to even the target continent... If this is all being orchestrated by a supreme being in another more sophisticated dimension, maybe shot us some clues through the ages, I guess I'll have to 'buy it'. But I'd start worrying within decades or years of the target year. :) Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 06/17/2021 07:26 PM |
darth
User ID: 28178764 United States 06/17/2021 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video Ref the nuke plant problems, YES, that is a major concern. However, I have been surprised at how little the Fukushima disaster has actually affected the ocean. The oceans are HUGE and the radiation becomes dispersed. I had a friend die of lung cancer right after Fuku. She was a health fanatic vegetarian yet died in six weeks. I suspect she breathed in a hot particle that came over on the jet stream. If Vogt and others are correct, most of the nuke plants will be buried under hundreds of feet of mud or washed into the oceans. Perhaps people will mysteriously die of cancer for thousands of years afterward. The only good news is that the hottest radioactive elements give up their energy quickly. In 500 years you could hold hot waste in your hand (although you should not put it on your breakfast cereal). If I were Sec of Energy, I would start stockpiling boric acid and concrete to bury those reactors if we face such a disaster. Boric stops the neutron chain reactions. I will never understand why Fuku did not have a basement full of boric bags below the reactors. That stuff is dirt cheap. |
The Oracle's Cookie
(OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 06/17/2021 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video And the thought of all stars going superflare in perfect sequence would have to be a very rare event indeed, and would potentially wipe out all life in the galaxy. I mean would something like this also trigger actual novas as well ? Why not, black hole formations ? Why not...Leading to gamma ray burts from our own galaxy why not ? if you really like your doom porn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79875786 Let's crank it uo More like a network reboot. We are talking about an advanced dimension being here, not with the limitations of our dimension. The suns/stars are connection points/energy vectors for the other dimensions programming and control of this dimension. Every so often there is a system clean up(nova), to what extent?, a file, a process, a program, the whole operating system? I think its a interesting theory. Good one! Always thought GhostBusters clips would be a good emphasis for making a point but never could find the right thread! lolo! The Oracle's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: SNAKE-in Bank of America Mural? SYMBOLISM/code NOW Revisited W/CURRENT NEWS! Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, |
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(OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 06/17/2021 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video Ref the nuke plant problems, YES, that is a major concern. Quoting: darth However, I have been surprised at how little the Fukushima disaster has actually affected the ocean. The oceans are HUGE and the radiation becomes dispersed. I had a friend die of lung cancer right after Fuku. She was a health fanatic vegetarian yet died in six weeks. I suspect she breathed in a hot particle that came over on the jet stream. If Vogt and others are correct, most of the nuke plants will be buried under hundreds of feet of mud or washed into the oceans. Perhaps people will mysteriously die of cancer for thousands of years afterward. The only good news is that the hottest radioactive elements give up their energy quickly. In 500 years you could hold hot waste in your hand (although you should not put it on your breakfast cereal). If I were Sec of Energy, I would start stockpiling boric acid and concrete to bury those reactors if we face such a disaster. Boric stops the neutron chain reactions. I will never understand why Fuku did not have a basement full of boric bags below the reactors. That stuff is dirt cheap. I think they should begin decommissioning ALL the nuke plants ASAP. I have a suspicion and it is just from years of seeing various prejudice show its ugly face over and over in many forms. When the U.S. set up Japan's Nuke plants it was post WWII. There was no "love loss" between the Japanese and the Americans and it would NOT surprise me a great deal if when considering the "safety issues" of these plants they TURNED A BLIND EYE...almost as if they hoped there would be an actual nuke accident so their buried feelings of retribution for our many lives lost to Japan could be realized later on. I know it sounds strange, but there is no explaining the subconscious motivations of people in these positions of power. Certainly placing nuke plants which are unsafe on an "enemy's beachfront" would be no great worry for them...only they didn't think it to the FULL IMPACT such an accident would also have on future countries. Let's face it...Nuke power has been an "experiment" since day 1 and they will phase out this dangerous energy technology just as soon as new forms of power generation are perfected. People's lives and safety never really figure into their equations. The Oracle's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: SNAKE-in Bank of America Mural? SYMBOLISM/code NOW Revisited W/CURRENT NEWS! Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, |
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(OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 06/17/2021 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yes, Elizabeth...There IS such a thing as a "Micro-Nova" and Orion's Betelegeuse just had ONE! video ... Quoting: The Oracle's Cookie That is a very good question about the NUKE PLANTS and how this very dangerous technology during a global disaster might work against our survival chances... The government--as Doug Vogt has POINTED OUT at the 8-13 minute mark in that video he hosts in my intro--HAS KNOWN about the sun's cycle at least since the LATE 1950'S altho this was never made public and was "classified." They most likely will BEGIN TO DECOMMISSION the nuke plants as we get closer to the actual event (and to be sure they know even BETTER THAN OUR "CITIZEN SCIENTISTS" when this will happen precisely)...so that is ONE THING to watch for with regard to how close this is to happening. I wouldn't have even though to LOOK AT THE NUKE PLANTS and what the gov. does with them (not all at once, of course as that would cause panic) for your "heads-up." That's a really important point! Thanks for that question! The Oracle's Cookie Interesting take TOC, but I don't think they'll care. It's the end of the world as they know it. The gov't DUMBS are poorly positioned and designed anyway. There was a gov't RFQ for snow melting (laser)systems because they realized(a recent Doug Vogt vid) there will be miles of snow over their locations, blocking ventilation. If it didn't read like a f'ing GREEK TRAGEDY that all this TIME AND MONEY was wasted building THE WRONG DESIGN ...IN THE WRONG PLACE...it would be funny. Vogt really must have them shaken up with his report. The Oracle's Cookie OC, I was in the military and aerospace for a long time. The original purpose of DUMBS was to survive and win nuke wars, not pole flips, etc. I suspect that few even knew about Chan Thomas, et al, back when they started the DUMBs. Sorry...that information was known if you will watch the whole Vogt and Davidson presentations. Remember the solar info began to be obvious as early as 1958. Listen to that 8 to 13 minute time marker on the video I shot the guy who wanted to know about the Postage Stamp they printed in May 1958. That was well before any dumb drilling technology was even invented! The Oracle's Cookie "An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu"...."DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!" Thread: SNAKE-in Bank of America Mural? SYMBOLISM/code NOW Revisited W/CURRENT NEWS! Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, |