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The entire Bible falls flat on its head because it uses the cosmos as a template or analogy to convey to us higher meanings. Take for instance the following:

Jhn 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

We know the above is inspired by celestial light shining into the darkness of space and reaching us. But the author, John, adds a caveat. He claims that the darkness does not understand the light. Such a bold statement, he makes. Walk with me a little as I unpack this revelation for you.

It is quite apparent, John draws from earlier writing found in genesis, here:


Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


God saw the light and judged it good. John used this fact to state that the darkness or those who could not see or "comprehend" the light remained in darkness. And because of this deemed those people in darkness or children of darkness, fit to be meted with a veil called division/divided/firmament.

Here is where the Bible's doctrine on light becomes problematic. Remember, nature and the cosmos are used as a template or analogy to describe the higher realms.

Science tells us light that reaches us is indicative of a star that has already died. This fact is important as it bears out the fact the light of Christ is a false light. Why? because it is conveyed TO US AFTER THE FACT, THAT IS, AFTER THE FACT OF HIS DEATH.

See the problem with this? It is no longer a living doctrine but, rather, a dead one. Why dead? Because it came to us after his death and not during his life. Those who walked with Christ inherited the true Light. We, on the other hand, are inheritors of the dead letter.

There is much much more to this. But suffice to say, we are received the doctrine of the principalities.

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You are confusing yourself trying to deceive others .
I have been dead . I was killed in an industrial accident many years ago.
It's a fool errand for anyone to try to convince a Christian such as myself that God doesn't exist .
Pathetic as your argument is however , you may actually end up deceiving the less intelligent than yourself . Your responsible for that .
You clearly have never been dead . I have . And I'm calling you a fool . Because you are .
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I have never yet seen science come against the "Word". and win.

Science doesn't even know what light is... comprehends it not... science is darkness.
J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil.

Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves.
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You are confusing yourself trying to deceive others .
I have been dead . I was killed in an industrial accident many years ago.
It's a fool errand for anyone to try to convince a Christian such as myself that God doesn't exist .
Pathetic as your argument is however , you may actually end up deceiving the less intelligent than yourself . Your responsible for that .
You clearly have never been dead . I have . And I'm calling you a fool . Because you are .
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Jesus the person died a long time ago, my friend. What you have currently is a dead letter (Bible) or letter from a dead man. It ain't rocket science. Your experience with death falls outside the periphery of that dead letter. You actually met Jesus where he is, in death that is. But that is another topic for discussion. I am specifically referring to the book called the Bible
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I have never yet seen science come against the "Word". and win.

Science doesn't even know what light is... comprehends it not... science is darkness.
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okay you have your opinion , I have mine. We are at an empasse. We can agree to disagree.
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The entire Bible falls flat on its head because it uses the cosmos as a template or analogy to convey to us higher meanings. Take for instance the following:

Jhn 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

We know the above is inspired by celestial light shining into the darkness of space and reaching us. But the author, John, adds a caveat. He claims that the darkness does not understand the light. Such a bold statement, he makes. Walk with me a little as I unpack this revelation for you.

It is quite apparent, John draws from earlier writing found in genesis, here:


Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


God saw the light and judged it good. John used this fact to state that the darkness or those who could not see or "comprehend" the light remained in darkness. And because of this deemed those people in darkness or children of darkness, fit to be meted with a veil called division/divided/firmament.

Here is where the Bible's doctrine on light becomes problematic. Remember, nature and the cosmos are used as a template or analogy to describe the higher realms.

Science tells us light that reaches us is indicative of a star that has already died. This fact is important as it bears out the fact the light of Christ is a false light. Why? because it is conveyed TO US AFTER THE FACT, THAT IS, AFTER THE FACT OF HIS DEATH.

See the problem with this? It is no longer a living doctrine but, rather, a dead one. Why dead? Because it came to us after his death and not during his life. Those who walked with Christ inherited the true Light. We, on the other hand, are inheritors of the dead letter.

There is much much more to this. But suffice to say, we are received the doctrine of the principalities.
 Quoting: Revelation Black dude


OK but they're gnostic metaphoric and hidden meaninings. And the controllers who passed these messages from sumar to the kings of the land, that seemed to be what these were to start with, also can't limit truth. So while they have a dark side message in the religions, a code for themselves, its multidimensional and has layers of meaning. They pass old messages on, but the Good inspires you today and now with inner insights.


Most things aren't physical, the bible takes place within you in the gnostic.

So the Light isn't the Light of the Universe, its the Soul Light, Spiritual, Higher Light than the physical universe. We come from Beyond it, its a school, a simulation, we're real from Beyond it.


The darkness can be many things, ignorance, programmed people, also selfishness or beast, giving into body suit instincts, or the "elites" and dark hats and ritual murderers, ie the monsters, they represent the dark as well.

When light shines it goes against their programs, and the limits they're buying into, they don't see it.

When light shines, true light, true light from true light, what is beyond the physical universe, what is beyond the light of a star, its often not shining from a privileged or wealthy position either and so they again disregard it believing that the poor are lesser.



Basically years ago, a wise man once asked me what infinity was, and after he nudged me to comprehend what this meant, got days and weeks of downloads from my Higher Self, from my Soul, on what this was.

Then was in a conversation with my son who was around 18 at the time and we were stuck on why something exists, not nothing, and we had a shared vision. An old man, like a huge angel university professor, filled up the sky, clapped his hands and laughed with delight. And I knew it was because we were the only people on earth discussing this, and he was delighted.

My son leapt in shock at the moment I saw this vision literally so suspected that we had shared that. But didn't want to lead him, so merely said: He Laughed! and my son nodded over and over again. Then I sat beside him and shared with him what I had seen and he concurred.


YOU CAN'T SHARE A VISION. 2 people stoned on something, hallucinating, see 2 different distorted things. They don't see the same thing, unless its real.



Now, the Wise man told me: You are an infinite part of infinity, infinity within and without all things. You are equal to the infinity all around you. They are not bigger than you, no cosmic bad guy is bigger than you, you are Equal to the infinity within and without the universe, within and without the star.

If YOU AN INFINITE LIGHT, comes into a world of darkness WHERE EVERYONE IS LOST AND DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR TRUTH, HOW CAN YOU FAIL? NOTHING IS BIGGER THAN YOU. DO THE MISSION YOU CAME TO DO.



That is the Light, and that is my guidance and what I see in this passage.

Shine your light. Do not put a lampshade it on, or obscure it. Shine. Shine truth. Shine love. Shine equality. Shine freedom. Shine. From your infinite soul shine light.


note there are other mysteries concerning the universe and stars, because stars shine multidimensional light and we only comprehend a small portion of it, what we can decode in our brains, on 98.7 fm for example, but it shines all the channels light, and stars shine physical universe light, but flow the light from Beyond as well, so they flow Higher Soul Love Light and Healing.

A metaphor for the simulated universe is that your soul is your spirit's body and its been given the bells and whistles and abilities to turn on the simulation. Ie like a computer, you push the on button, load to the desktop and open a program, and voila, there is the universe.

But its taking place within you.

Therefore you are the sun, the moon, the stars, the universe, and so everyone else, and you are more than this.

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Interesting selection of passages.. Now take those and imagine they are metaphors for something going on within your own consciousness, then look inside yourself deeply to see for yourself if that is the case.
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“Science tells us light that reaches us is indicative of a star that has already died.” That statement right there shows you have very little understanding of science. Science tells us no such thing. When you go outside and look up in the sky every one of those stars you see are still there. Some may be 300 or 600 light years away, most are closer, but in no way are they stars that are already dead. Only very sophisticated astronomical instruments can detect stars that are billions of light years away and yes some of those may have already died. But none of that has anything to do with the light of Christ and Gods love. If you don’t believe, you don’t believe, but don’t make up false analogies to make yourself feel better about it. I don’t believe in Islam, but I don’t go around manufacturing nonsensical, false analogies to try to prove I’m right or to convince someone who’s uncertain about it.
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The multilayered meanings are really a reconfiguring of the falsehood to draw out the truth. Similar to what I am doing. They coded it so that the layman could not uncover the truth as they were considered unworthy. Parables are an example of hiding the truth in plain view. So we can at least agree that the lettered Bible on its surface is falsehood. And to be quite frank, it is the lettered Bible that Christendom received.


The entire Bible falls flat on its head because it uses the cosmos as a template or analogy to convey to us higher meanings. Take for instance the following:

Jhn 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

We know the above is inspired by celestial light shining into the darkness of space and reaching us. But the author, John, adds a caveat. He claims that the darkness does not understand the light. Such a bold statement, he makes. Walk with me a little as I unpack this revelation for you.

It is quite apparent, John draws from earlier writing found in genesis, here:


Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


God saw the light and judged it good. John used this fact to state that the darkness or those who could not see or "comprehend" the light remained in darkness. And because of this deemed those people in darkness or children of darkness, fit to be meted with a veil called division/divided/firmament.

Here is where the Bible's doctrine on light becomes problematic. Remember, nature and the cosmos are used as a template or analogy to describe the higher realms.

Science tells us light that reaches us is indicative of a star that has already died. This fact is important as it bears out the fact the light of Christ is a false light. Why? because it is conveyed TO US AFTER THE FACT, THAT IS, AFTER THE FACT OF HIS DEATH.

See the problem with this? It is no longer a living doctrine but, rather, a dead one. Why dead? Because it came to us after his death and not during his life. Those who walked with Christ inherited the true Light. We, on the other hand, are inheritors of the dead letter.

There is much much more to this. But suffice to say, we are received the doctrine of the principalities.
 Quoting: Revelation Black dude


OK but they're gnostic metaphoric and hidden meaninings. And the controllers who passed these messages from sumar to the kings of the land, that seemed to be what these were to start with, also can't limit truth. So while they have a dark side message in the religions, a code for themselves, its multidimensional and has layers of meaning. They pass old messages on, but the Good inspires you today and now with inner insights.


Most things aren't physical, the bible takes place within you in the gnostic.

So the Light isn't the Light of the Universe, its the Soul Light, Spiritual, Higher Light than the physical universe. We come from Beyond it, its a school, a simulation, we're real from Beyond it.


The darkness can be many things, ignorance, programmed people, also selfishness or beast, giving into body suit instincts, or the "elites" and dark hats and ritual murderers, ie the monsters, they represent the dark as well.

When light shines it goes against their programs, and the limits they're buying into, they don't see it.

When light shines, true light, true light from true light, what is beyond the physical universe, what is beyond the light of a star, its often not shining from a privileged or wealthy position either and so they again disregard it believing that the poor are lesser.



Basically years ago, a wise man once asked me what infinity was, and after he nudged me to comprehend what this meant, got days and weeks of downloads from my Higher Self, from my Soul, on what this was.

Then was in a conversation with my son who was around 18 at the time and we were stuck on why something exists, not nothing, and we had a shared vision. An old man, like a huge angel university professor, filled up the sky, clapped his hands and laughed with delight. And I knew it was because we were the only people on earth discussing this, and he was delighted.

My son leapt in shock at the moment I saw this vision literally so suspected that we had shared that. But didn't want to lead him, so merely said: He Laughed! and my son nodded over and over again. Then I sat beside him and shared with him what I had seen and he concurred.


YOU CAN'T SHARE A VISION. 2 people stoned on something, hallucinating, see 2 different distorted things. They don't see the same thing, unless its real.



Now, the Wise man told me: You are an infinite part of infinity, infinity within and without all things. You are equal to the infinity all around you. They are not bigger than you, no cosmic bad guy is bigger than you, you are Equal to the infinity within and without the universe, within and without the star.

If YOU AN INFINITE LIGHT, comes into a world of darkness WHERE EVERYONE IS LOST AND DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR TRUTH, HOW CAN YOU FAIL? NOTHING IS BIGGER THAN YOU. DO THE MISSION YOU CAME TO DO.



That is the Light, my guidance.
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1 drop bible
2 understand bible is junk
3 understand there are 2500 religions and all are wrong
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1 drop bible
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3 understand there are 2500 religions and all are wrong
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you are light
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Bible is a very important tool. It is the tool of the Western World. Ain't no way it can be ignored as our institutions and social structure are built upon it in some form or another.
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Jesus is the Light John was referring to. The understanding of the Gospel, the Good News.
The darkness that didn't comprehend it are the lost souls.
It has nothing whatever to do with star light.
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I have never yet seen science come against the "Word". and win.

Science doesn't even know what light is... comprehends it not... science is darkness.
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Right as rain.

"Science" eventually catches up to the Bible.

Along with archeology proving that historical accuracy of the Bible.
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Jesus is the Light John was referring to. The understanding of the Gospel, the Good News.
The darkness that didn't comprehend it are the lost souls.
It has nothing whatever to do with star light.
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Obviously you didn't read the intro with comprehension. Please do.
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I have never yet seen science come against the "Word". and win.

Science doesn't even know what light is... comprehends it not... science is darkness.
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Right as rain.

"Science" eventually catches up to the Bible.

Along with archeology proving that historical accuracy of the Bible.
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The universe is built on lies and truths. So, yea, in that regard, the science and pseudoscience do catch up Lmfao.
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The entire Bible falls flat on its head because it uses the cosmos as a template or analogy to convey to us higher meanings. Take for instance the following:

Jhn 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

We know the above is inspired by celestial light shining into the darkness of space and reaching us. But the author, John, adds a caveat. He claims that the darkness does not understand the light. Such a bold statement, he makes. Walk with me a little as I unpack this revelation for you.

It is quite apparent, John draws from earlier writing found in genesis, here:


Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


God saw the light and judged it good. John used this fact to state that the darkness or those who could not see or "comprehend" the light remained in darkness. And because of this deemed those people in darkness or children of darkness, fit to be meted with a veil called division/divided/firmament.

Here is where the Bible's doctrine on light becomes problematic. Remember, nature and the cosmos are used as a template or analogy to describe the higher realms.

Science tells us light that reaches us is indicative of a star that has already died. This fact is important as it bears out the fact the light of Christ is a false light. Why? because it is conveyed TO US AFTER THE FACT, THAT IS, AFTER THE FACT OF HIS DEATH.

See the problem with this? It is no longer a living doctrine but, rather, a dead one. Why dead? Because it came to us after his death and not during his life. Those who walked with Christ inherited the true Light. We, on the other hand, are inheritors of the dead letter.

There is much much more to this. But suffice to say, we are received the doctrine of the principalities.
 Quoting: Revelation Black dude


God laid out his plans long ago. Things get revealed in their proper time.
Just as the star has long passed its light still shines on to reveal its majesty
To those that see it, it is still with them.
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The entire Bible falls flat on its head because it uses the cosmos as a template or analogy to convey to us higher meanings. Take for instance the following:

Jhn 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

We know the above is inspired by celestial light shining into the darkness of space and reaching us. But the author, John, adds a caveat. He claims that the darkness does not understand the light. Such a bold statement, he makes. Walk with me a little as I unpack this revelation for you.

It is quite apparent, John draws from earlier writing found in genesis, here:


Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


God saw the light and judged it good. John used this fact to state that the darkness or those who could not see or "comprehend" the light remained in darkness. And because of this deemed those people in darkness or children of darkness, fit to be meted with a veil called division/divided/firmament.

Here is where the Bible's doctrine on light becomes problematic. Remember, nature and the cosmos are used as a template or analogy to describe the higher realms.

Science tells us light that reaches us is indicative of a star that has already died. This fact is important as it bears out the fact the light of Christ is a false light. Why? because it is conveyed TO US AFTER THE FACT, THAT IS, AFTER THE FACT OF HIS DEATH.

See the problem with this? It is no longer a living doctrine but, rather, a dead one. Why dead? Because it came to us after his death and not during his life. Those who walked with Christ inherited the true Light. We, on the other hand, are inheritors of the dead letter.

There is much much more to this. But suffice to say, we are received the doctrine of the principalities.
 Quoting: Revelation Black dude


God laid out his plans long ago. Things get revealed in their proper time.
Just as the star has long passed its light still shines on to reveal its majesty
To those that see it, it is still with them.
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It is a false light as the origin is from a dead star. The light in the Bible is false. Sorry.
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You are mixing science with religion...

Even though the so called light from a so called dead star can still be seen? what does that tell you?

The light (soul) still exist... even though the star (body) is dead...


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You are mixing science with religion...

Even though the so called light from a so called dead star can still be seen? what does that tell you?

The light (soul) still exist... even though the star (body) is dead...


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The soul cannot live without a body. If the body (star) is dead, so is the soul (light). What you see is the ghost (light of the star) of the soul. Hence what you have in the Bible is the holy GHOST. Get it, now? Why do you think they inserted that word in the anglicized version of the scripture? A ghost is the light of the dead living a lie (thinking it is still alive). Follow?
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The entire Bible falls flat on its head because it uses the cosmos as a template or analogy to convey to us higher meanings. Take for instance the following:

Jhn 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

We know the above is inspired by celestial light shining into the darkness of space and reaching us. But the author, John, adds a caveat. He claims that the darkness does not understand the light. Such a bold statement, he makes. Walk with me a little as I unpack this revelation for you.

It is quite apparent, John draws from earlier writing found in genesis, here:


Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


God saw the light and judged it good. John used this fact to state that the darkness or those who could not see or "comprehend" the light remained in darkness. And because of this deemed those people in darkness or children of darkness, fit to be meted with a veil called division/divided/firmament.

Here is where the Bible's doctrine on light becomes problematic. Remember, nature and the cosmos are used as a template or analogy to describe the higher realms.

Science tells us light that reaches us is indicative of a star that has already died. This fact is important as it bears out the fact the light of Christ is a false light. Why? because it is conveyed TO US AFTER THE FACT, THAT IS, AFTER THE FACT OF HIS DEATH.

See the problem with this? It is no longer a living doctrine but, rather, a dead one. Why dead? Because it came to us after his death and not during his life. Those who walked with Christ inherited the true Light. We, on the other hand, are inheritors of the dead letter.

There is much much more to this. But suffice to say, we are received the doctrine of the principalities.
 Quoting: Revelation Black dude


The darkness and light at hand, is not (in my opinion) what we know as light / dark.. It's a higher form of good/evil.
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You are mixing science with religion...

Even though the so called light from a so called dead star can still be seen? what does that tell you?

The light (soul) still exist... even though the star (body) is dead...


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The soul cannot live without a body. If the body (star) is dead, so is the soul (light). What you see is the ghost (light of the star) of the soul. Hence what you have in the Bible is the holy GHOST. Get it, now? Why do you think they inserted that word in the anglicized version of the scripture? A ghost is the light of the dead living a lie (thinking it is still alive). Follow?
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You can still see it with your eyes and feel it in your bones... It still exist.

Perhaps it may seem dead (unconscious) in this physical realm but it never the less... It still exist.
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Re: Revelation: If the light of a star which reaches us is from one that has already died, then...
You are mixing science with religion...

Even though the so called light from a so called dead star can still be seen? what does that tell you?

The light (soul) still exist... even though the star (body) is dead...


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The soul cannot live without a body. If the body (star) is dead, so is the soul (light). What you see is the ghost (light of the star) of the soul. Hence what you have in the Bible is the holy GHOST. Get it, now? Why do you think they inserted that word in the anglicized version of the scripture? A ghost is the light of the dead living a lie (thinking it is still alive). Follow?
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You can still see it with your eyes and feel it in your bones... It still exist.

Perhaps it may seem dead (unconscious) in this physical realm but it never the less... It still exist.
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I never said it does not exist smdh. Did you read what I wrote without the filters? I said the book is a dead letter. If you dig deep enough you can trace it back to its root or truth, but that requires considerable spiritual effort. I would liken it to forensic science using DNA to uncover hidden things in a dead body/ Do you get it now?

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Re: Revelation: If the light of a star which reaches us is from one that has already died, then...
The entire Bible falls flat on its head because it uses the cosmos as a template or analogy to convey to us higher meanings. Take for instance the following:

Jhn 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

We know the above is inspired by celestial light shining into the darkness of space and reaching us. But the author, John, adds a caveat. He claims that the darkness does not understand the light. Such a bold statement, he makes. Walk with me a little as I unpack this revelation for you.

It is quite apparent, John draws from earlier writing found in genesis, here:


Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


God saw the light and judged it good. John used this fact to state that the darkness or those who could not see or "comprehend" the light remained in darkness. And because of this deemed those people in darkness or children of darkness, fit to be meted with a veil called division/divided/firmament.

Here is where the Bible's doctrine on light becomes problematic. Remember, nature and the cosmos are used as a template or analogy to describe the higher realms.

Science tells us light that reaches us is indicative of a star that has already died. This fact is important as it bears out the fact the light of Christ is a false light. Why? because it is conveyed TO US AFTER THE FACT, THAT IS, AFTER THE FACT OF HIS DEATH.

See the problem with this? It is no longer a living doctrine but, rather, a dead one. Why dead? Because it came to us after his death and not during his life. Those who walked with Christ inherited the true Light. We, on the other hand, are inheritors of the dead letter.

There is much much more to this. But suffice to say, we are received the doctrine of the principalities.
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Oh you believe science over your CREATOR?

And use science to explain your hopeful hypothesis that GOD'S WORD is wrong because of man's "science"?

Same science that brought us the shots?

Same science that NASA uses to fake moon trips and landings and can't produce any non CGI images of "space"? Space- not the night time "dark sky" images people like one in particular in here peddle as real honest to goodness space shots of ISS- but only at night?

Same science that swore we would never see snow again by 2000 due to global warming?

Same science that cannot predict daily weather unless it is controlled- on Earth- by HAARP, seeding, and cloud machines?

In other words- the ever EARTHBOUND "science" that proves to be wrong in so many ways and is constantly moving its own goal posts? All scientists do is "discover" the mechanisms of the creation of GOD or lie their satanic butts off making outrageous claims like somehow this reality was created out of a random "big bang" and yet left us with all this absolute perfection and mind blowing complexity...by random cataclysmic occurance.

Show us PROOF that stars many light years away "burn out" before their light reaches us. I will wait...and wait...and wait...

And you have the nerve to quote Scripture of His Word so you can badly interpret it to fit your pitiful hypothesis?

Good luck with that.

Now let's see how long it takes for this post to get deleted because this is the last bastion of free speech.

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Re: Revelation: If the light of a star which reaches us is from one that has already died, then...
Jesus is the Light John was referring to. The understanding of the Gospel, the Good News.
The darkness that didn't comprehend it are the lost souls.
It has nothing whatever to do with star light.
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Obviously you didn't read the intro with comprehension. Please do.
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I've seen people attempt to debunk the Bible.
Your attempt isn't even remotely compelling.
I comprehend quite a lot. I understand the cognitive dissonance of the atheist. I see it around here every day.
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Jesus is the Light John was referring to. The understanding of the Gospel, the Good News.
The darkness that didn't comprehend it are the lost souls.
It has nothing whatever to do with star light.
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Re: Revelation: If the light of a star which reaches us is from one that has already died, then...
Nothing is faster than light because light is instant. Think about it





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