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Tracking a SpaceX launch over the internet

 
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This past weekend I performed another test of my telescope tracking software and a friend was able to track the launch over the internet from out of state. He had a bandwidth issue on his end that dropped his frame rate to one frame per second, but with predictive tracking using trajectory data from flightclub.io he was still able to keep up with the launch.
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you can track spaceship from earth with some bad ass telescope , but you have bandwidth issues?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80459482

Actually the bandwidth issue was on my friend's end of the connection.
Pathetic, how much bandwidth do you really need? Why do you even need bandwidth record to local SD card upload later, none is watching you live anyway.
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No one was watching me live? Apparently you didn't read the opening post.
This past weekend I performed another test of my telescope tracking software and a friend was able to track the launch over the internet from out of state. He had a bandwidth issue on his end that dropped his frame rate to one frame per second,
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It was recorded to the SD card. It was also streamed to him over the internet so that he could see what the camera was seeing and steer his telescope mount remotely with a joystick.
Elon flies his shit only 12.5km up not really space. All his rockets are joke, you like it or not, using 1065 Russian engines.

This is NASA 2 for millennials to believe.
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That is false. The Falcon 9 uses Merlin engines designed and built right here in the US by SpaceX. If anything, the Merlin engine shares a design legacy with the Apollo lunar module descent propulsion system with its use of a pintle injector for throttle control. Northrop even sued SpaceX over their use of the technology since their lead engine designer took the technology from his time at TRW, the same company that built the descent propulsion system (and then reused the tech in their TR-106 design). And yes, their rockets' payloads really are going to space.



I plan to track this satellite tomorrow night. It's a Sirius XM satellite and once it's in its geostationary orbit it will be providing satellite radio.

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Just tell me why Polaris never moves
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It does move.
Lol, so what constellations would that be? The same ones we have now? Because if were moving 483,000 miles per hour pretty sure after the fucking stars would have changed by now, thousands of years ago. Funny how only doom comes from fake ass space. Sheep porn
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Proper motion is real and can be measured, but it's incredibly slow in human terms.
Quite right, proper motion is relative to our movement. Anybody else find it incredibly divine a star can line up to celestial North with all this movement going.
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Here's "all the movement" of Polaris over about a half century of time. It's just barely detectable in old photographic sky surveys. The high resolution measurements of the proper motion of Polaris come from the 2007 reduction of the Hipparcos data:
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The proper motion of Polaris can be independently verified using ground-based telescopes; since proper motion builds up over time, using high resolution images taken decades apart you can see its effect from one image to the next. For example, you can detect the proper motion of Polaris in images from the first and second Palomar Sky Survey that were taken using the same telescope almost 50 years apart. I used the following photographic film plates:

Plate XO001 (A2TX) photographed Aug 22, 1952 5:20 UT
Astrometrically solved image:
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Plate XJ896 (A2NG) photographed Jan 17, 1998 5:12 UT
Astrometrically solved image:
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The images 46 years apart should have a total motion of Polaris of about 2.1 arcseconds according to the hipparcos data (44.48 x 11.85 mas = combined vector of 46 milliarcseconds per year = 0.046 arcseconds per year * 46 years = 2.1 arcseconds).

For diffraction centroiding of Polaris, I measured the intersection of the diffraction spikes to find the position of Polaris in each image:
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Zooming in on the difference between the intersection points in the diffraction spikes, and drawing a line between those intersection points, you can see that Polaris has moved about 2 arcseconds between 1952 and 1998, just as expected according to the Hipparcos data. And just as expected, the direction of motion is positive in right ascension and negative in declination (resulting in a higher right ascension value and slightly lower declination value in the 1998 image):
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So yes, Polaris has proper motion and does move over time, but due to the vast distance between our solar system and Polaris it takes years for these motions to become noticeable even in telescopic images at arcsecond resolution. Even over tens of thousands of years that it takes precession to cycle through, it would only move a fraction of a degree.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


46 milliarcseconds per year * about 13,0000 years = about 598 arcseconds or 10 arcminutes, about 1/3rd the diameter of the full moon. Even if you could hop through time and go back tens of thousands of years, Polaris would barely seem to move by eye. It's very far away, so much so that even with a relative motion of at least 48,000 mph to our solar system, the motion is too small to see by eye over human time spans. Precession does mean that Polaris has not always been the north star in human history though, but that's due to the earth's axis of rotation, rather than a motion of Polaris itself.

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 Quoting: Astromut


So you ask a question, I debunk the premise of the question directly, and your response is to hit me with anonymous red karma without even leaving a message? Pathetic. If you're going to respond, at least try to rub your last two brain cells together to form a sentence.
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is musk going to take all the excess people on earth over to mars ?
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is musk going to take all the excess people on earth over to mars ?
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mars is smaller than earth 1dunno1
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Does Musk pay you for this Astromutt? What about the night launches out of Dreamland and from the Malibu Canyon? Do you ever track those or just the 1950’s Buck Rogers style rockets? Do you really believe these rockets are the cutting edge of going into orbit and beyond in 2021? Unless you are a shill you can’t be that naive. sheep
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fake and gay just like astromut. its over dude retire from the bs
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So true. But, don't provoke him. He's a Mod, you know.

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fake and gay just like astromut. its over dude retire from the bs
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Nope. It's not BS.
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fake and gay just like astromut. its over dude retire from the bs
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So true. But, don't provoke him. He's a Mod, you know.

drevil
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If it's fake, then how would I be able to track the satellite in orbit? I'm going to set up a live stream for tomorrow night. You're welcome to come on the stream with me and explain to my audience how I'm faking it.
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Don't let their imaginations form your reality
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Yeah, the young folks and the over 50s space cadets still get fooled by NASA and Space X but too many have woken up. I mean just look at ANY footage from NASA and tell me it is 100% real. If even ONE minute of footage was fake that would be a smoking gun you could use in court in a class action suit against the government like when those people sued the tobacco industry for saying cigarettes were harmless. But who would take on the government these days? They massacred over 3000 innocent people on 9/11/2001 almost twenty years ago and got away with it.

The ISS is so fake and ghey in 2021. It was fake and ghey in 2011. The fakery is actually WORSE in 2021 than in 1998, I think they just don't care anymore, they WANT people to wake up is my inclination. Dudes, the movie Gravity with the reluctant, untrained, unsuitable, unstable astronaut Sandra Bullock was a million times more real-looking than what NASA gives us. The China footage? That looks like CGI from a 1990s video game! Same with Japan, there moon footage looks like something from South Park.

Oh man, I could go on all day, write a 1000 page book, make a 100 hour TV series on how NASA has been fake for 60 years. But at this point it isn't necessary as enough people have woken up, almost a herd immunity to the bullshit. A better use of my time is to try and find out what IS UP THERE. The Firmament? Heaven? That would be amazing, imagine proving that to the world? The religions would be proved right. It could unite humanity. Or what is at the Arctic? What is there at or beyond the Antarctic?

Maybe you CAN fly beyond the Firmament. The Bible speaks of openings in the Firmament, no one seems to ever mention this in the flat Earth community. So is it possible that there is a secret program that goes through the "windows and doors to Heaven" as the Bible states?

I hate shitting on things, but NASA has done 60 years of shitting. I just want them to stop shitting and start confessing, we'll all feel better after it and have a world party!
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Yeah, the young folks and the over 50s space cadets still get fooled by NASA and Space X but too many have woken up. I mean just look at ANY footage from NASA and tell me it is 100% real.
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Okie dokie.

Yup, looks real to me.
The ISS is so fake and ghey in 2021. It was fake and ghey in 2011.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong.
isscrew1

It's real. I've confirmed it myself.
The fakery is actually WORSE in 2021 than in 1998, I think they just don't care anymore, they WANT people to wake up is my inclination. Dudes, the movie Gravity with the reluctant, untrained, unsuitable, unstable astronaut Sandra Bullock was a million times more real-looking than what NASA gives us.
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No, it wasn't. Maybe you think it's more realistic if an astronaut is buzzing around a delicate space telescope in an MMU like he's Buzz Fucking Lightyear, but that is not how it works in real life.
Oh man, I could go on all day, write a 1000 page book, make a 100 hour TV series on how NASA has been fake for 60 years.
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You couldn't prove a bit of it fake if your miserable life depended on it. I bet you think that the moon transiting the earth from DSCOVR is fake too, I bet you even think the clouds aren't moving in the time lapse. I bet you think there should be stars visible next to the earth.

Your false preconceived notions and piss poor observational mistakes are not evidence of anything being fake.
I hate shitting on things,
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No you don't. You get off on it.

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And when cornered, you fucking losers try to porn bomb my thread. Try it one more time asshole, I fucking dare you. I will end your ability to post as an AC on any of my threads. Go on, make my day, I fucking dare you.
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ASS-TROLL-SLUT
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Annnnnd you're done. No more posting on my threads and switching your IP won't help you.

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ASS-TROLL-SLUT
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Annnnnd you're done. No more posting on my threads and switching your IP won't help you.
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Somebody really doesn't like the credibility you bring to this forum to have this many trolls attacking every thread you post.

This is the sad world we live in. Hope it doesn't discourage you.

Great thread as always.

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ASS-TROLL-SLUT
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Annnnnd you're done. No more posting on my threads and switching your IP won't help you.
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Somebody really doesn't like the credibility you bring to this forum to have this many trolls attacking every thread you post.

This is the sad world we live in. Hope it doesn't discourage you.

Great thread as always.
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Thanks. It doesn't discourage me, but it harms other ACs who play by the rules and just want to discuss or even argue with me. I enjoy that, but we can't have people repeatedly porn bombing my threads. Whatever that troll's motivation is, he's done doing it to my threads.

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Imagine if we explored the Firmament and beyond using NASA technology. Imagine footage of Heaven. It would unite humanity. That's why this stuff is the ultimate taboo. You can call Oscar winning actors of doing evil to children which could get Trinity sued for $100 million, but you can't point out NASA fakery, or what the Earth really is? Why is that?

There's a lot of dumb stuff in the "flat Earth" movement, but not all of it. If we stick to the facts, the verifiable then we'll be fine.

Imagine a world where we knew the truth about the world...
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Imagine if we explored the Firmament and beyond using NASA technology. Imagine footage of Heaven. It would unite humanity. That's why this stuff is the ultimate taboo. You can call Oscar winning actors of doing evil to children which could get Trinity sued for $100 million, but you can't point out NASA fakery, or what the Earth really is? Why is that?

There's a lot of dumb stuff in the "flat Earth" movement, but not all of it. If we stick to the facts, the verifiable then we'll be fine.

Imagine a world where we knew the truth about the world...
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It's not fake.
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You tried to BS the wrong person, bud.
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Great job Doc, as always.

I have a question please: there appear to be three or four fiberglass encased antennas surrounding the launch pad atop the towers beside the rocket.

Are those in fact antennas used prior to the launch or are they a different component / serve a different purpose?
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Great question, those are actually lightning masts for protecting the rocket.
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Thanks brother!
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Imagine if we explored the Firmament and beyond using NASA technology. Imagine footage of Heaven. It would unite humanity. That's why this stuff is the ultimate taboo. You can call Oscar winning actors of doing evil to children which could get Trinity sued for $100 million, but you can't point out NASA fakery, or what the Earth really is? Why is that?

There's a lot of dumb stuff in the "flat Earth" movement, but not all of it. If we stick to the facts, the verifiable then we'll be fine.

Imagine a world where we knew the truth about the world...
 Quoting: Destroy All Evil


It's not fake.
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You tried to BS the wrong person, bud.
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Imagine building something like that in "space" and not making one photo of the building process.
You make all the photos, wouldn't that be something you would do?
It makes no sense.
Imagine knowing how to get to the moon with a calculator for a computer and then losing the arguably most significant information because you're recycling tapes or whatever their story is...
Just step outside it all and come to the story fresh... for sure you'd have to call BS.
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Imagine if we explored the Firmament and beyond using NASA technology. Imagine footage of Heaven. It would unite humanity. That's why this stuff is the ultimate taboo. You can call Oscar winning actors of doing evil to children which could get Trinity sued for $100 million, but you can't point out NASA fakery, or what the Earth really is? Why is that?

There's a lot of dumb stuff in the "flat Earth" movement, but not all of it. If we stick to the facts, the verifiable then we'll be fine.

Imagine a world where we knew the truth about the world...
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It's not fake.
isscrew1
You tried to BS the wrong person, bud.
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Imagine building something like that in "space" and not making one photo of the building process.
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Too bad for you that's not what happened. Imagine not being able to do an ounce of research before making such an ignorant claim, and then making the claim to someone who proceeds to drown you in links showing that you're completely wrong?
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You make all the photos, wouldn't that be something you would do?
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Yes, I did. I recorded a variety of videos of the station under construction. I saw the space shuttle coming and going to and from the station, expanding it on each flight.
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Just step outside it all and come to the story fresh... for sure you'd have to call BS.
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Translation: Ignore any evidence proving this idiot wrong and you might think for a moment that it's all BS.
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