Natural COVID Immunity 'Waning': Bullshit! | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70904430 United States 06/08/2021 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yep horseshit, they purposely conflate terms and and types of immunity. rona infection = immune cells specified to all parts of the virus vaccine infection = immune cells specified to spike protein and you have 2 main types of acquired immunity cells that remember pathogens, killer t-cells which kill virally infected cells and memory b cells that release anti-bodies and the main tests that look for immunity are usually targeting antibody producing cells and only being tested against the spike protein. natural infection confers a more broad immunity and i believe it was found that killer t cells have greater affinity for the nuclear protein of the virus which you don't get with the vax. when the virus is in ur cell cranking out copies, all the proteins it makes get presented on the outside of your cell, and killer t cells recognize the foreign proteins and kill the cell. and these killer t memory cells have been found 17 years after infection with sars 1, so natural immunity is fine. somewhere down the line you may get coronavirus again because immunity does slowly fade, but guess what, it'll be less severe than before because your body still remembers, and will kick into action quicker than if you never had it before. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70904430 United States 06/08/2021 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Immunity lasts for six months, but to be on the safe side, it's best to take the two shots anyways, you have to think of your loved ones, friends and co-workers first. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78592066 uh no, if they are tubby, old in poor health or sick, they can get the vax to protect themselves i had the disease in december, so i'm not getting the vax. Why would i want to fudge with my comprehensive superior natural immunity and have my body prioritize immune recognition of only the spike protein of the over 1 year old strain of the virus??? the very same spike protein which is now under immense evolutionary pressure to mutate to overcome the vaxxed ppl's immunity. that'd be retarded. if you are willing to settle, as my booster dose, i'll volunteer to be exposed/infected with the virus again. even israel acknowledged that first time infection is equivalent to 1 dose of vax so only 1 pfizer vax is needed for already infected. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80460696 United States 06/08/2021 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Immunity lasts for six months, but to be on the safe side, it's best to take the two shots anyways, you have to think of your loved ones, friends and co-workers first. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78592066 uh no, if they are tubby, old in poor health or sick, they can get the vax to protect themselves i had the disease in december, so i'm not getting the vax. Why would i want to fudge with my comprehensive superior natural immunity and have my body prioritize immune recognition of only the spike protein of the over 1 year old strain of the virus??? the very same spike protein which is now under immense evolutionary pressure to mutate to overcome the vaxxed ppl's immunity. that'd be retarded. if you are willing to settle, as my booster dose, i'll volunteer to be exposed/infected with the virus again. even israel acknowledged that first time infection is equivalent to 1 dose of vax so only 1 pfizer vax is needed for already infected. Really? Because my wife and I are chubby former college athletes and we are both over 45. We got COVID and had mild symptoms and were back on the beat in four days. Yet, this dipshit vegan triathlete cardiologist we know was in the hospital for two weeks and they almost put his ass on a vent. Then he took the vaxx and had serious reaction and still hasn't fully recovered. We walk 12K each a day. I row, lift, and do a lot of boxing and Muay Thai bag work. Explain that shit! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79635880 United States 06/08/2021 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The part I struggle with... If you get the vaccine, you can still get COVID. What part of the equation do people not understand? Natural Immunity is the best part of the conversation because you cannot get it. Nobody is talking about it or putting commercials out there for the education. Even if you had it, you survived... You will survive again. Variants.... Show me one that immunity doesn't work for. Until then, it is a made up scenario that doesn't exist. Length of immunity... You can say the same about the vaccine, so this issue is nullified. If anything, there is more data to support it is longet lasting than the vaccine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78592066 06/08/2021 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The part I struggle with... If you get the vaccine, you can still get COVID. What part of the equation do people not understand? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79635880 Natural Immunity is the best part of the conversation because you cannot get it. Nobody is talking about it or putting commercials out there for the education. Even if you had it, you survived... You will survive again. Variants.... Show me one that immunity doesn't work for. Until then, it is a made up scenario that doesn't exist. Length of immunity... You can say the same about the vaccine, so this issue is nullified. If anything, there is more data to support it is longet lasting than the vaccine. It's simple, don't gamble with your life and that of others, take the two jabs to be on the safe side. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70904430 United States 06/08/2021 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Immunity lasts for six months, but to be on the safe side, it's best to take the two shots anyways, you have to think of your loved ones, friends and co-workers first. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78592066 uh no, if they are tubby, old in poor health or sick, they can get the vax to protect themselves i had the disease in december, so i'm not getting the vax. Why would i want to fudge with my comprehensive superior natural immunity and have my body prioritize immune recognition of only the spike protein of the over 1 year old strain of the virus??? the very same spike protein which is now under immense evolutionary pressure to mutate to overcome the vaxxed ppl's immunity. that'd be retarded. if you are willing to settle, as my booster dose, i'll volunteer to be exposed/infected with the virus again. even israel acknowledged that first time infection is equivalent to 1 dose of vax so only 1 pfizer vax is needed for already infected. Really? Because my wife and I are chubby former college athletes and we are both over 45. We got COVID and had mild symptoms and were back on the beat in four days. Yet, this dipshit vegan triathlete cardiologist we know was in the hospital for two weeks and they almost put his ass on a vent. Then he took the vaxx and had serious reaction and still hasn't fully recovered. We walk 12K each a day. I row, lift, and do a lot of boxing and Muay Thai bag work. Explain that shit! i was just stating israel's policy regarding already infected ppl, theyll count it as one dose. you guys sound active and healthy, if you already had it once, it shouldn't be a big deal again, unless you have some kind of massive overwhelming exposure to the pathogen or enter an immunocompromised state in the future. i'm pretty sure most people that acquire the infection naturally are set and don't need any follow up for at least 17 years. for most ppl, the worst that might happen is you experience very mild to mild symptoms if exposed again. now ppl that are old like 70+, sick or suffer from some sort of immunodeficiency, then corona is still something for them to worry about, it could kill them. believe the military said that among their ppl, reinfection of already infected ppl was 10%. but out of those cases the overwhelming majority had 000 symptoms which means they just tested positive, 0 were serious and just a handful of mild cases. |
Save America From Politicians
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78592066 06/08/2021 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can get away with this by simply saying that the antibodies fade after a few months or year which is accurate but T-cell and B-cell immunity last most likely a lifetime. T-cell immunity is the strongest immunity one can have. Quoting: Save America From Politicians Not exactly true, take the two jabs and get free beer I say, don't take unnecessary chances and stay safe. |
Save America From Politicians
User ID: 79987073 United States 06/08/2021 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can get away with this by simply saying that the antibodies fade after a few months or year which is accurate but T-cell and B-cell immunity last most likely a lifetime. T-cell immunity is the strongest immunity one can have. Quoting: Save America From Politicians Not exactly true, take the two jabs and get free beer I say, don't take unnecessary chances and stay safe. Its 100% true. I'll buy my own beer and keep my natural immunity. |
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DOOM WALKER
User ID: 78674873 United States 06/08/2021 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those that claim they had covid, were you tested? If no, how do you know you had covid? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79432422 because you think the pcr test for covid?? it test for a rare genetic mutation aka satan dna My whole family has had it.My sister in law died from it.My wife had it and went to the hospital they gave her blood from Chattanooga from someone that already had it.she came home a week later.I had it as well but didnt go to the hospital i just toughed it out |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78592066 06/08/2021 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can get away with this by simply saying that the antibodies fade after a few months or year which is accurate but T-cell and B-cell immunity last most likely a lifetime. T-cell immunity is the strongest immunity one can have. Quoting: Save America From Politicians Not exactly true, take the two jabs and get free beer I say, don't take unnecessary chances and stay safe. Its 100% true. I'll buy my own beer and keep my natural immunity. Too bad!, Corona's are best, this time of the year! |