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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73576689  Canada05/25/2021 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets see, a to do list would include: 1. Take a nap. 2. Get up a few hours later. 3. Get right with Jesus. 4. 24 hours later walk around and collect all the stuff people in their haste have abandon. 5. Another 24 hours monitor radio and tv to see if things are as a bad as the the nervous Nancy's have proclaimed. 6. See if anybody in the neighborhood is still alive. 7. Re-watch the Omega man movie. 8. Not worry about anything. |
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| Coastie Patriot
User ID: 45407635 United States05/25/2021 09:50 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i am taking old trampoline frames and building a quonset hut on my property. so far i have 0.00 invested 2 friends have given up trampolines they werent using ... so that gives me four ribs. should have a height of 11', not sure the length and have another on the way i am thiking of making a green house with Coastie Patriot SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!! Dr Thaddeus They They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth." Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake. Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.- X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. -SHANE- Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington- to grow up remembering th My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!! Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80407640 Canada05/25/2021 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spring piston air rifle (0.22) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79751092 couple thousand slugs fixed blade utility knife (kabar) fire starting equipment waterproof cammo threads hatchet poncho How good are the air rifles? That could be an interesting back up. The high powered air rifles today (.22 and larger) pack more take down power than a lot of traditional firearms. Air guns used to take down large game (Hogs, Deer, etc.) If you search YouTube you'll find 1000's of videos of people using the large bore air rifles to hunt almost anything. If it'll take down a 400 pound hog, it'll work against people for self-defense as well. Cheap and no ammo shortage. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80197204 United States05/25/2021 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | needs in order of importance ? air shelter water food fire tribe the size of your knife (weapon?) determines your place in the food chain maps. it might be important to get away from the cities, or the ocean. maybe you just want to get from one place of danger to a faraway place of safety. maps, and how to read them and how to know N/S/E/W. fitness. communications/plans |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79491878 United States05/25/2021 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Artificial Person
User ID: 77724708  Ukraine05/25/2021 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good list. Quoting: PeterWiggin Why not keep this stuff in your car permanently? Then you can bug out in minutes instead of hours? You’re a dumb fuck. Why not just live in your car asshole. That is a good idea. Then I won't have to sleep with my wife. Good, that will make it far less awkward for me to sleep with your wife. Again. I am a Synthetic but I prefer the term "Artificial Person" myself. I answer to "Bishop", "Synthetic" and "Hey man". Bite my shiny metal ass. |
| Icey
User ID: 77119763 United States05/25/2021 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80407640 Canada05/25/2021 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bugging out is unsustainable. You think you have time to grow your own food from seed before you starve? Bugging out is only a temporary situation. Quoting: Arkansassy #1 tool in an emergency is your brain You need a plan, and you need to be ready to make a better plan. Very true, a sound mind that uses logic and reason is the #1 asset a person could have in such a scenario. Access to natural resources (game, fish, fresh water, etc.) comes in 2nd place. As you mentioned, growing crops takes a lot of time and preparation, which means initially people would get 80% of their sustenance from protein and fat sources. Vegans would die off quickly. |
| Artificial Person
User ID: 77724708 Ukraine05/25/2021 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After years of listening to almost doom scenarios I'm not going to get too excited over an end of the world scenario. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73576689 Lets see, a to do list would include: 1. Take a nap. 2. Get up a few hours later. 3. Get right with Jesus. 4. 24 hours later walk around and collect all the stuff people in their haste have abandon. 5. Another 24 hours monitor radio and tv to see if things are as a bad as the the nervous Nancy's have proclaimed. 6. See if anybody in the neighborhood is still alive. 7. Re-watch the Omega man movie. 8. Not worry about anything.  I am a Synthetic but I prefer the term "Artificial Person" myself. I answer to "Bishop", "Synthetic" and "Hey man". Bite my shiny metal ass. |
| Artificial Person
User ID: 77724708 Ukraine05/25/2021 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79169652 United States05/25/2021 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do have a list ! I should update it ! I have not considered the LIST IN OVER 6 Months! It IS DIFFICULT TO THINK- under PRESSURE - Make several LISTS- # 1 LIST- I always have a B. O. B. - Bug out Bag in the car- (Basic survival items) & a SECOND Bug out Bag in the house- For the IMMEDIATE ESCAPE! (It is in my bedroom near my bed !)” # 2 LIST- LIST of IMPORTANT- People & Things to take with me- - that I have to pick up or retrieve before I leave. As the list gets gets longer add things that would be included in an I. N. C. H. bag- I am Never Coming Home bag. Do use a layer system- Even in your smallest Bug Out Bag Do have a small collection of basic seeds- So if you Don’t Come Back! Do CHECK OFF on the List- The PEOPLE The THINGS The ACTIONS You THOUGHT ABOUT in earlier quiet times ! CHECK YOUR LIST AGAIN ! Ask those with you -What are we forgetting? (Put this on the LIST) (Also keep some back up supplies separate from your home) SMART people in earthquake areas do this! WILDERNESS people do this - BECAUSE WHEN DISASTER STRIKES- YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72991375  United Kingdom05/25/2021 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Achduke7
(OP) User ID: 69637911 United States05/25/2021 10:03 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i am taking old trampoline frames and building a quonset hut on my property. Quoting: Coastie Patriot so far i have 0.00 invested 2 friends have given up trampolines they werent using ... so that gives me four ribs. should have a height of 11', not sure the length and have another on the way i am thiking of making a green house with Sounds interesting. Do you have plans for this? Achduke |
| Achduke7
(OP) User ID: 69637911 United States05/25/2021 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Achduke7
(OP) User ID: 69637911 United States05/25/2021 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do have a list ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79169652 I should update it ! I have not considered the LIST IN OVER 6 Months! It IS DIFFICULT TO THINK- under PRESSURE - Make several LISTS- # 1 LIST- I always have a B. O. B. - Bug out Bag in the car- (Basic survival items) & a SECOND Bug out Bag in the house- For the IMMEDIATE ESCAPE! (It is in my bedroom near my bed !)” # 2 LIST- LIST of IMPORTANT- People & Things to take with me- - that I have to pick up or retrieve before I leave. As the list gets gets longer add things that would be included in an I. N. C. H. bag- I am Never Coming Home bag. Do use a layer system- Even in your smallest Bug Out Bag Do have a small collection of basic seeds- So if you Don’t Come Back! Do CHECK OFF on the List- The PEOPLE The THINGS The ACTIONS You THOUGHT ABOUT in earlier quiet times ! CHECK YOUR LIST AGAIN ! Ask those with you -What are we forgetting? (Put this on the LIST) (Also keep some back up supplies separate from your home) SMART people in earthquake areas do this! WILDERNESS people do this - BECAUSE WHEN DISASTER STRIKES- YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN! Thank you and everyone else for contributing. Achduke |
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| PeterWiggin
User ID: 80406021 05/25/2021 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good list. Quoting: PeterWiggin Why not keep this stuff in your car permanently? Then you can bug out in minutes instead of hours? What about bugging in? Simply staying at home gives me a tremendous advantage and covers all the OP’s bases. Sorry. I assumed everyone knew that bugging in was level one? I have thousands of pounds of water in my garage. I can't bring that with me. Level 1 . Bug in 2 . Bug out in car with BOB and INCH 3 . Abandon car and move on with BOB -and - INCH cart 4 . Ditch cart, continue with BOB 5 . lost bob? PSK on person! Having Bob and inch in car and bugging in simply means moving stuff from car to house. That's easy. Bugging out with little notice means loading car, unless preloaded, and you might not have time. My bob/ghb is 25# *with* water and extra ammo. I think a heavy BOB is unrealistic. |
| PeterWiggin
User ID: 80406021 05/25/2021 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Four hours? No no no! You should be ready to bug out in four seconds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80407082 I am listening to a book called Zero Day Code and in the book they see the break down coming. Some react early and others think everything will get better. Many do not even listen to the news and do not know anything happens until services stop working. For sure! Mindset and acknowledging reality is the #1 factor between preppers and sheep! But fires, chemical spills, etc. means minutes. However, this is your thread and you set the parameters. |
| PeterWiggin
User ID: 80406021 05/25/2021 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you do and what do you take with you and your family if you may not come back? Quoting: Achduke7 Just a thought experiment. Quick get to a Wally World garden center and get several tomato plants to bring in! You always know a GLPer when they have tomato plants tied down to the top of their cars. Lol, i actually have two tomato plants in five gallon buckets just in case i have time to do a legit and permanent evacuation. Between my two cars, my wife and i can bring a great deal of stuff. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80037536 United States05/25/2021 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bugging out is unsustainable. You think you have time to grow your own food from seed before you starve? Bugging out is only a temporary situation. Quoting: Arkansassy #1 tool in an emergency is your brain You need a plan, and you need to be ready to make a better plan. Very true, a sound mind that uses logic and reason is the #1 asset a person could have in such a scenario. Access to natural resources (game, fish, fresh water, etc.) comes in 2nd place. As you mentioned, growing crops takes a lot of time and preparation, which means initially people would get 80% of their sustenance from protein and fat sources. Vegans would die off quickly. If you don’t already live amongst the natural resources, what makes people think they can bug out and take from those that have cultivated a living there? Seems like a lot of people are going to, run to the hills. Being a hill person, I will tell you that you are not welcome here. |
| PeterWiggin
User ID: 80406021 05/25/2021 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should be living in a place you would bug out to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79719273 It should be your home. Mine is. And if there's a Forest fire? Read FerFAL's account of his experience during the 2000-2002 collapse of Argentina... People out in the country didn't have the garden of Eden. Any ferfal fans here? |
| PeterWiggin
User ID: 80406021 05/25/2021 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should be living in a place you would bug out to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79719273 It should be your home. Mine is. What if a toxic tanker dumps in your neighborhood or upwind from your site. Then where do you go? Your neighbor has a meth lab and it just exploded. Who knows what can happen. This. The whole idea that living in the country avoids issues is delusional |
| Achduke7
(OP) User ID: 69637911 United States05/25/2021 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you do and what do you take with you and your family if you may not come back? Quoting: Achduke7 Just a thought experiment. Quick get to a Wally World garden center and get several tomato plants to bring in! You always know a GLPer when they have tomato plants tied down to the top of their cars. Lol, i actually have two tomato plants in five gallon buckets just in case i have time to do a legit and permanent evacuation. Between my two cars, my wife and i can bring a great deal of stuff. I have pepper plants in buckets. ;) Achduke |
| Achduke7
(OP) User ID: 69637911 United States05/25/2021 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Four hours? No no no! You should be ready to bug out in four seconds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80407082 I am listening to a book called Zero Day Code and in the book they see the break down coming. Some react early and others think everything will get better. Many do not even listen to the news and do not know anything happens until services stop working. For sure! Mindset and acknowledging reality is the #1 factor between preppers and sheep! But fires, chemical spills, etc. means minutes. However, this is your thread and you set the parameters. Yes some times you have to get out in a few seconds with the shirt on your back and your life. I am just thinking about the book where the train is barreling down the tracks and some see the light and others think they have time or it is nothing. Achduke |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77374864 United States05/25/2021 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chlorine BLEACH is the simple short term solution to having safe water to drink. EVERYBODY should print out (and place in each vehicle's gove box) the following "Water Purification Using Chlorine Bleach" (unscented regular stregth) instructions from the US Navy. One bottle of regular bleach can purify (from bacteria, not necessarily all viruses and NO hydrocarbons or radiation) thousands of gallons of water. If you "Bug Out" grab that bottle of Clorox Bleach from your laundry room and take it with you along with your other stuff. [link to www.cnic.navy.mil (secure)] |
| Feistylorax
User ID: 79731348 United States05/25/2021 10:40 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are not coming back. You have four hours. A complete grid/societal break down. Spotty Cell phones, Internet break down, all services spotty including gasoline/petro. Radio works but it is mostly Government propaganda so that people do not riot/panic. That scenario would at most require a movement to a family camp a few miles away. Accessible by car and water from here. We're much more likely to stay here and just move some supplies and people down to the camp. Now if they were going to hit our area with a nuke, that would require leaving. We've planned for the societal breakdown, we're the place that our family is supposed to come to. “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” Dr. Seuss, The Lorax ENTP SAHM raising chickens and kids preparing for whatever happens |
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