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Virgin Galactic proves the Earth is a sphere.

 
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Fat earthers can't handle the truth of the earth being spherical!
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Hey, at least it's comedic fodder for us!
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Explain Sigma Octantis, the south star.
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also rotates

and is barely visible by the way

are you going to try and answer my question yet?

or you want to move the goalpost some more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


I haven't moved anything, we are still dealing with the same argument.

Why do people in the southern hemisphere all see the night sky revolve around Sigma Octantis when looking magnetic south?

Barely visible how?

You can always increase the exposure of your camera to catch lower-light scenarios so that's a non-issue.

 Quoting: BFD


Have you personally gone anywhere in southern hemisphere and actually photographed it and tracked it?

no, no you haven't.

you are getting stuck on this one unprovable thing and declaring that's all the evidence you need

there are many many many other angles and issues involved with this debate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


You really think everyone that lives below the Equator is lying to us?

Maybe there is no one that lives below the Equator?

Maybe there is no South America?

Where do you draw the line?
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The real and easiest proof is in the time it takes a Vendee Globe sail boat to circumnavigate Antarctica.

If the flat Earther map was true, the journey would take around 6 months I think.

But they do it in around 20 days. Typing the times by memory, but the point is, the sailboats have a well understood speed and making the much longer journey of a flat Earth map, in the times they post would be impossible.

But it doesn't matter how much proof you show them. They just shove their fingers in their ears and go La La La. :)
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


1) the fastest time the vendee was completed was 74 days and change

2) they don't travel near Antarctica, they travel closer to the equator, so 24000 miles seems right, they also go north after crossing south america

so you come here with assumptions and reference a race you don't even understand, then you tell others they won't listen to reason

interesting

spock
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Your stupidity is showing.

They drive south from France, All the way to their closest approach to Antarctica possible within the rules and the iceberg hazards.

Then they travel right around Antarctica. Here is the tracking map.

Then they sail North back to France.

I have been a sailor for 30 fucking years.
And I used to work for BOC.

[link to www.vendeeglobe.org (secure)]

You might have to adjust the view magnification to see the entire route. I trust you know how to use a mouse.

You can see the date and time of each boat as it circumnavigates Antarctica. Proving your flat earth bullshit is pure bullshit.
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


they dont travel "right around Antarctica"

they are also restricted to above the 46 the line of latitude

that's not even close to antarctica

looking at this route on a flat earth it makes sense the 24000 estimated distance and record time of 74 days
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


I said they sail as close to Antarctica as the rules allow.
I guess you can't read as well as can't think.
You also have the times wrong.
There is a slider at the bottom of the tracking chart that advances the time of the race and the boats move position.

I took note of the lead boat, the Apivia.
It completed its Southern leg on Nov 27, 2020 at 23:12 UTC and had completed 7159 nm.
This began its circumnavigation of Antartica.
It ended its circumnavigation of Antartica 40 days later on Jan 6, 2021 at 17:35 UTC and it logged 21.677 nm at that point in the race.

So in 40 days it traveled 14,500 nm to circumnavigate Antarctica. And averaged 15 knots for that leg.
ANd of course, his route is not a perfect straight line for lots of reasons. So the straight line distance for that route would be considerably less than the 14,500 nm.

Now, if your dumb assed theory of a flat Earth were true, that circumnavigation would have been the same as the circumference of the Earth, or 21,600 nm. And his journey would have the same sorts of deviations to optimize speed made good vs wind speed.

So that would put his average boat speed at an average 22 knots, which as you can see, none of the boats were capable of sustaining as an average speed.

Therefore it is proven, the Earth is a spherical object.
QED = Quite Easily Done, as my old calc. professor used to say.

ALso, their line of travel looks to be between 50 and 60 deg S Latitude, not 40.

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5* beautiful!

That’s hilarious how all the flat earthers think it’s a fisheye lens even though nothing is distorted. Obviously they have never seen anything filmed with a fisheye lens.
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1) the fastest time the vendee was completed was 74 days and change

2) they don't travel near Antarctica, they travel closer to the equator, so 24000 miles seems right, they also go north after crossing south america

so you come here with assumptions and reference a race you don't even understand, then you tell others they won't listen to reason

interesting

spock
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


Your stupidity is showing.

They drive south from France, All the way to their closest approach to Antarctica possible within the rules and the iceberg hazards.

Then they travel right around Antarctica. Here is the tracking map.

Then they sail North back to France.

I have been a sailor for 30 fucking years.
And I used to work for BOC.

[link to www.vendeeglobe.org (secure)]

You might have to adjust the view magnification to see the entire route. I trust you know how to use a mouse.

You can see the date and time of each boat as it circumnavigates Antarctica. Proving your flat earth bullshit is pure bullshit.
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


they dont travel "right around Antarctica"

they are also restricted to above the 46 the line of latitude

that's not even close to antarctica

looking at this route on a flat earth it makes sense the 24000 estimated distance and record time of 74 days
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


I said they sail as close to Antarctica as the rules allow.
I guess you can't read as well as can't think.
You also have the times wrong.
here is a slider at the bottom of the tracking chart that advances the time of the race and the boats move position.

I took not of the lead boat, the Apivia.
It completed its Southern leg on Nov 27, 2020 at 23:12 UTC and had completed 7159 nm.
This began its circumnavigation of Antartica.
It ended its circumnavigation of Antartica 40 days later on Jan 6, 2021 at 17:35 UTC and it logged 21.677 nm at that point in the race.

So in 40 days it traveled 14,500 nm to circumnavigate Antarctica. And averaged 15 knots for that leg.
ANd of course, his route is not a perfect straight line for lots of reasons. So the straight line distance for that route would be considerably less than the 14,500 nm.

Now, if your dumb assed theory of a flat Earth were true, that circumnavigation would have been the same as the circumference of the Earth, or 21,600 nm. And his journey would have the same sorts of deviations to optimize speed made good vs wind speed.

So that would put his average boat speed at an average 22 knots, which as you can see, none of the boats were capable of sustaining as an average speed.

Therefore it is proven, the Earth is a spherical object.
QED = Quite Easily Done, as my old calc. professor used to say. .
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


as close as the rules allow, following what line of latitude as the southern boundary?
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also rotates

and is barely visible by the way

are you going to try and answer my question yet?

or you want to move the goalpost some more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


I haven't moved anything, we are still dealing with the same argument.

Why do people in the southern hemisphere all see the night sky revolve around Sigma Octantis when looking magnetic south?

Barely visible how?

You can always increase the exposure of your camera to catch lower-light scenarios so that's a non-issue.

 Quoting: BFD


Have you personally gone anywhere in southern hemisphere and actually photographed it and tracked it?

no, no you haven't.

you are getting stuck on this one unprovable thing and declaring that's all the evidence you need

there are many many many other angles and issues involved with this debate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


You really think everyone that lives below the Equator is lying to us?

Maybe there is no one that lives below the Equator?

Maybe there is no South America?

Where do you draw the line?
 Quoting: BFD


well i do find it interesting that pretty much every country in the southern hemisphere is third world.

as far as "everyone is lying" i don't see everyone posting footage of the southern cross or sigma octanis being tracked, just some opinion articles
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Re: Virgin Galactic proves the Earth is a sphere.
Why don't people understand that all lenses are "fish eye" lenses?

Take ANY camera with ANY lense and point it squarely at a piece of paper with a grid pointed at it and then tell me how straight that grid is lol.

The only camera that lacks this quality is a pinhole camera free of lenses entirely.
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I haven't moved anything, we are still dealing with the same argument.

Why do people in the southern hemisphere all see the night sky revolve around Sigma Octantis when looking magnetic south?

Barely visible how?

You can always increase the exposure of your camera to catch lower-light scenarios so that's a non-issue.

 Quoting: BFD


Have you personally gone anywhere in southern hemisphere and actually photographed it and tracked it?

no, no you haven't.

you are getting stuck on this one unprovable thing and declaring that's all the evidence you need

there are many many many other angles and issues involved with this debate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


You really think everyone that lives below the Equator is lying to us?

Maybe there is no one that lives below the Equator?

Maybe there is no South America?

Where do you draw the line?
 Quoting: BFD


well i do find it interesting that pretty much every country in the southern hemisphere is third world.

as far as "everyone is lying" i don't see everyone posting footage of the southern cross or sigma octanis being tracked, just some opinion articles
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


There was a dude here that was stationed at McMurdo Station in Antarctica a few years back, that was cool as shit.

I have a piece of postage that was stamped from Little America, Antarctica on one of Robert Byrd's voyages.
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Your stupidity is showing.

They drive south from France, All the way to their closest approach to Antarctica possible within the rules and the iceberg hazards.

Then they travel right around Antarctica. Here is the tracking map.

Then they sail North back to France.

I have been a sailor for 30 fucking years.
And I used to work for BOC.

[link to www.vendeeglobe.org (secure)]

You might have to adjust the view magnification to see the entire route. I trust you know how to use a mouse.

You can see the date and time of each boat as it circumnavigates Antarctica. Proving your flat earth bullshit is pure bullshit.
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


they dont travel "right around Antarctica"

they are also restricted to above the 46 the line of latitude

that's not even close to antarctica

looking at this route on a flat earth it makes sense the 24000 estimated distance and record time of 74 days
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


I said they sail as close to Antarctica as the rules allow.
I guess you can't read as well as can't think.
You also have the times wrong.
here is a slider at the bottom of the tracking chart that advances the time of the race and the boats move position.

I took not of the lead boat, the Apivia.
It completed its Southern leg on Nov 27, 2020 at 23:12 UTC and had completed 7159 nm.
This began its circumnavigation of Antartica.
It ended its circumnavigation of Antartica 40 days later on Jan 6, 2021 at 17:35 UTC and it logged 21.677 nm at that point in the race.

So in 40 days it traveled 14,500 nm to circumnavigate Antarctica. And averaged 15 knots for that leg.
ANd of course, his route is not a perfect straight line for lots of reasons. So the straight line distance for that route would be considerably less than the 14,500 nm.

Now, if your dumb assed theory of a flat Earth were true, that circumnavigation would have been the same as the circumference of the Earth, or 21,600 nm. And his journey would have the same sorts of deviations to optimize speed made good vs wind speed.

So that would put his average boat speed at an average 22 knots, which as you can see, none of the boats were capable of sustaining as an average speed.

Therefore it is proven, the Earth is a spherical object.
QED = Quite Easily Done, as my old calc. professor used to say. .
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


as close as the rules allow, following what line of latitude as the southern boundary?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


It is not a constant line. You can see the "Exclusion zone" clearly marked on the chart.

Looks like most of their route was between 50 and 60 deg S Latitude. The zone is set by the latest iceberg observations, and they are not uniformly scattered as you might imagine.
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Cool video, not a flat earther by any means, but that wasn't exactly crystal clear evidence of anything
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The actual curve of the earth for one; it clearly seen from various angles and by multiple cameras onboard the spacecraft.

Flat earthers want to believe that every camera has a fisheye lens despite the fact that the curve of the earth is in a different direction than a fisheye lens would capture it.

I have proven that fisheye lens do not curve the image to show the earth as a sphere, at their best they can only show the earth's horizon as a bowl.
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Hahahahhaaa exactly!!! These people are complete dumbasses
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Have you personally gone anywhere in southern hemisphere and actually photographed it and tracked it?

no, no you haven't.

you are getting stuck on this one unprovable thing and declaring that's all the evidence you need

there are many many many other angles and issues involved with this debate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


You really think everyone that lives below the Equator is lying to us?

Maybe there is no one that lives below the Equator?

Maybe there is no South America?

Where do you draw the line?
 Quoting: BFD


well i do find it interesting that pretty much every country in the southern hemisphere is third world.

as far as "everyone is lying" i don't see everyone posting footage of the southern cross or sigma octanis being tracked, just some opinion articles
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


There was a dude here that was stationed at McMurdo Station in Antarctica a few years back, that was cool as shit.

I have a piece of postage that was stamped from Little America, Antarctica on one of Robert Byrd's voyages.
 Quoting: BFD


sounds cool but really doesn't prove anything
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Cool video, not a flat earther by any means, but that wasn't exactly crystal clear evidence of anything
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76495839


The actual curve of the earth for one; it clearly seen from various angles and by multiple cameras onboard the spacecraft.

Flat earthers want to believe that every camera has a fisheye lens despite the fact that the curve of the earth is in a different direction than a fisheye lens would capture it.

I have proven that fisheye lens do not curve the image to show the earth as a sphere, at their best they can only show the earth's horizon as a bowl.
 Quoting: GORGLESNARGLE


Hahahahhaaa exactly!!! These people are complete dumbasses
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There is no curve in that footage.

But, the Earth is still round.

False dichotomy.
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they dont travel "right around Antarctica"

they are also restricted to above the 46 the line of latitude

that's not even close to antarctica

looking at this route on a flat earth it makes sense the 24000 estimated distance and record time of 74 days
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


I said they sail as close to Antarctica as the rules allow.
I guess you can't read as well as can't think.
You also have the times wrong.
here is a slider at the bottom of the tracking chart that advances the time of the race and the boats move position.

I took not of the lead boat, the Apivia.
It completed its Southern leg on Nov 27, 2020 at 23:12 UTC and had completed 7159 nm.
This began its circumnavigation of Antartica.
It ended its circumnavigation of Antartica 40 days later on Jan 6, 2021 at 17:35 UTC and it logged 21.677 nm at that point in the race.

So in 40 days it traveled 14,500 nm to circumnavigate Antarctica. And averaged 15 knots for that leg.
ANd of course, his route is not a perfect straight line for lots of reasons. So the straight line distance for that route would be considerably less than the 14,500 nm.

Now, if your dumb assed theory of a flat Earth were true, that circumnavigation would have been the same as the circumference of the Earth, or 21,600 nm. And his journey would have the same sorts of deviations to optimize speed made good vs wind speed.

So that would put his average boat speed at an average 22 knots, which as you can see, none of the boats were capable of sustaining as an average speed.

Therefore it is proven, the Earth is a spherical object.
QED = Quite Easily Done, as my old calc. professor used to say. .
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


as close as the rules allow, following what line of latitude as the southern boundary?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


It is not a constant line. You can see the "Exclusion zone" clearly marked on the chart.

Looks like most of their route was between 50 and 60 deg S Latitude. The zone is set by the latest iceberg observations, and they are not uniformly scattered as you might imagine.
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


[link to www.sailingscuttlebutt.com (secure)]

This is agreed between the Australian authorities and the Race Direction in particular following the rescue of injured Yann Eliès in 2008. These four points are located at latitude 46° 00 South and run from 105° to 120° East longitude.
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also rotates

and is barely visible by the way

are you going to try and answer my question yet?

or you want to move the goalpost some more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


I haven't moved anything, we are still dealing with the same argument.

Why do people in the southern hemisphere all see the night sky revolve around Sigma Octantis when looking magnetic south?

Barely visible how?

You can always increase the exposure of your camera to catch lower-light scenarios so that's a non-issue.

 Quoting: BFD


Have you personally gone anywhere in southern hemisphere and actually photographed it and tracked it?

no, no you haven't.

you are getting stuck on this one unprovable thing and declaring that's all the evidence you need

there are many many many other angles and issues involved with this debate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


You really think everyone that lives below the Equator is lying to us?

Maybe there is no one that lives below the Equator?

Maybe there is no South America?

Where do you draw the line?
 Quoting: BFD


There definitely is a South America, and the women are amazing! :) And the coffee runs a close second. :)
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You really think everyone that lives below the Equator is lying to us?

Maybe there is no one that lives below the Equator?

Maybe there is no South America?

Where do you draw the line?
 Quoting: BFD


well i do find it interesting that pretty much every country in the southern hemisphere is third world.

as far as "everyone is lying" i don't see everyone posting footage of the southern cross or sigma octanis being tracked, just some opinion articles
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


There was a dude here that was stationed at McMurdo Station in Antarctica a few years back, that was cool as shit.

I have a piece of postage that was stamped from Little America, Antarctica on one of Robert Byrd's voyages.
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sounds cool but really doesn't prove anything
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It's supposed to sound cool and not prove anything.

Sigma Octantis proves it all... there's no FE model where Polaris and Sigma Octantis can coexist... unless you believe the Southern Hemisphere and it's inhabitants are a lie.
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well i do find it interesting that pretty much every country in the southern hemisphere is third world.

as far as "everyone is lying" i don't see everyone posting footage of the southern cross or sigma octanis being tracked, just some opinion articles
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


There was a dude here that was stationed at McMurdo Station in Antarctica a few years back, that was cool as shit.

I have a piece of postage that was stamped from Little America, Antarctica on one of Robert Byrd's voyages.
 Quoting: BFD


sounds cool but really doesn't prove anything
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


It's supposed to sound cool and not prove anything.

Sigma Octantis proves it all... there's no FE model where Polaris and Sigma Octantis can coexist... unless you believe the Southern Hemisphere and it's inhabitants are a lie.
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so you base your entire premise on one unprovable point?
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I said they sail as close to Antarctica as the rules allow.
I guess you can't read as well as can't think.
You also have the times wrong.
here is a slider at the bottom of the tracking chart that advances the time of the race and the boats move position.

I took not of the lead boat, the Apivia.
It completed its Southern leg on Nov 27, 2020 at 23:12 UTC and had completed 7159 nm.
This began its circumnavigation of Antartica.
It ended its circumnavigation of Antartica 40 days later on Jan 6, 2021 at 17:35 UTC and it logged 21.677 nm at that point in the race.

So in 40 days it traveled 14,500 nm to circumnavigate Antarctica. And averaged 15 knots for that leg.
ANd of course, his route is not a perfect straight line for lots of reasons. So the straight line distance for that route would be considerably less than the 14,500 nm.

Now, if your dumb assed theory of a flat Earth were true, that circumnavigation would have been the same as the circumference of the Earth, or 21,600 nm. And his journey would have the same sorts of deviations to optimize speed made good vs wind speed.

So that would put his average boat speed at an average 22 knots, which as you can see, none of the boats were capable of sustaining as an average speed.

Therefore it is proven, the Earth is a spherical object.
QED = Quite Easily Done, as my old calc. professor used to say. .
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


as close as the rules allow, following what line of latitude as the southern boundary?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


It is not a constant line. You can see the "Exclusion zone" clearly marked on the chart.

Looks like most of their route was between 50 and 60 deg S Latitude. The zone is set by the latest iceberg observations, and they are not uniformly scattered as you might imagine.
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


[link to www.sailingscuttlebutt.com (secure)]

This is agreed between the Australian authorities and the Race Direction in particular following the rescue of injured Yann Eliès in 2008. These four points are located at latitude 46° 00 South and run from 105° to 120° East longitude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


Dude, it is shown on the fucking map for the Vendee Globe race.
IF you stayed at 46 degrees, you would not be able to round South America for chrissakes. Unless you can sail on land.
Is that part of your theory as well?
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well i do find it interesting that pretty much every country in the southern hemisphere is third world.

as far as "everyone is lying" i don't see everyone posting footage of the southern cross or sigma octanis being tracked, just some opinion articles
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


There was a dude here that was stationed at McMurdo Station in Antarctica a few years back, that was cool as shit.

I have a piece of postage that was stamped from Little America, Antarctica on one of Robert Byrd's voyages.
 Quoting: BFD


sounds cool but really doesn't prove anything
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


It's supposed to sound cool and not prove anything.

Sigma Octantis proves it all... there's no FE model where Polaris and Sigma Octantis can coexist... unless you believe the Southern Hemisphere and it's inhabitants are a lie.
 Quoting: BFD


what if there is more than one sigma octanis?
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as close as the rules allow, following what line of latitude as the southern boundary?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


It is not a constant line. You can see the "Exclusion zone" clearly marked on the chart.

Looks like most of their route was between 50 and 60 deg S Latitude. The zone is set by the latest iceberg observations, and they are not uniformly scattered as you might imagine.
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


[link to www.sailingscuttlebutt.com (secure)]

This is agreed between the Australian authorities and the Race Direction in particular following the rescue of injured Yann Eliès in 2008. These four points are located at latitude 46° 00 South and run from 105° to 120° East longitude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


Dude, it is shown on the fucking map for the Vendee Globe race.
IF you stayed at 46 degrees, you would not be able to round South America for chrissakes. Unless you can sail on land.
Is that part of your theory as well?
 Quoting: Justme C'est Moi


well don't get mad at me, email the people who wrote that article

the checkpoints run along the 46th line of latitude

i told you they go north after crossing the southern tip of south america
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Looks pretty flat to me.
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Flatter than a pancake.

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There was a dude here that was stationed at McMurdo Station in Antarctica a few years back, that was cool as shit.

I have a piece of postage that was stamped from Little America, Antarctica on one of Robert Byrd's voyages.
 Quoting: BFD


sounds cool but really doesn't prove anything
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


It's supposed to sound cool and not prove anything.

Sigma Octantis proves it all... there's no FE model where Polaris and Sigma Octantis can coexist... unless you believe the Southern Hemisphere and it's inhabitants are a lie.
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so you base your entire premise on one unprovable point?
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I have never personally recreated the Cavendish Experiment, but I trust the gravitational constant when I run simulations based in Newtonian physics... and the results turn out as expected.
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sounds cool but really doesn't prove anything
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It's supposed to sound cool and not prove anything.

Sigma Octantis proves it all... there's no FE model where Polaris and Sigma Octantis can coexist... unless you believe the Southern Hemisphere and it's inhabitants are a lie.
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so you base your entire premise on one unprovable point?
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I have never personally recreated the Cavendish Experiment, but I trust the gravitational constant when I run simulations based in Newtonian physics...
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ok?
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sounds cool but really doesn't prove anything
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It's supposed to sound cool and not prove anything.

Sigma Octantis proves it all... there's no FE model where Polaris and Sigma Octantis can coexist... unless you believe the Southern Hemisphere and it's inhabitants are a lie.
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so you base your entire premise on one unprovable point?
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I have never personally recreated the Cavendish Experiment, but I trust the gravitational constant when I run simulations based in Newtonian physics... and the results turn out as expected.
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post an example then
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It is not a constant line. You can see the "Exclusion zone" clearly marked on the chart.

Looks like most of their route was between 50 and 60 deg S Latitude. The zone is set by the latest iceberg observations, and they are not uniformly scattered as you might imagine.
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This is agreed between the Australian authorities and the Race Direction in particular following the rescue of injured Yann Eliès in 2008. These four points are located at latitude 46° 00 South and run from 105° to 120° East longitude.
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Dude, it is shown on the fucking map for the Vendee Globe race.
IF you stayed at 46 degrees, you would not be able to round South America for chrissakes. Unless you can sail on land.
Is that part of your theory as well?
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well don't get mad at me, email the people who wrote that article

the checkpoints run along the 46th line of latitude

i told you they go north after crossing the southern tip of south america
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You referenced an article dated 2008. The race in question was run 6 months ago. The exclusion zone follows the jagged line shown on the tracking chart for the race in question. It doesn't get any plainer than that.
The line jags around between 50 and 60 deg S Latitude. Period.

The boat travelled at 15 knots on average and circumnavigated that course as shown and the boat logged his distance sailed as 14,500 nautical miles. Period the end. There were like 30 boats all doing the same thing with a flesh and blood captain on them. Every nuance of the journey was logged by the wonders of modern navigation and communications.


The flat Earth distance for that trip would have been well over 21,000 NM. Hence the Earth isn't flat.

If you want me not to get mad at you, admit you lost the argument and that I proved the Earth is a Sphere-ish object and I will buy you a beer sometime. :)
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It's supposed to sound cool and not prove anything.

Sigma Octantis proves it all... there's no FE model where Polaris and Sigma Octantis can coexist... unless you believe the Southern Hemisphere and it's inhabitants are a lie.
 Quoting: BFD


so you base your entire premise on one unprovable point?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

I have never personally recreated the Cavendish Experiment, but I trust the gravitational constant when I run simulations based in Newtonian physics... and the results turn out as expected.
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post an example then
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Yep, gravitational constant works over here.

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[link to www.sailingscuttlebutt.com (secure)]

This is agreed between the Australian authorities and the Race Direction in particular following the rescue of injured Yann Eliès in 2008. These four points are located at latitude 46° 00 South and run from 105° to 120° East longitude.
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Dude, it is shown on the fucking map for the Vendee Globe race.
IF you stayed at 46 degrees, you would not be able to round South America for chrissakes. Unless you can sail on land.
Is that part of your theory as well?
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well don't get mad at me, email the people who wrote that article

the checkpoints run along the 46th line of latitude

i told you they go north after crossing the southern tip of south america
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722


You referenced an article dated 2008. The race in question was run 6 months ago. The exclusion zone follows the jagged line shown on the tracking chart for the race in question. It doesn't get any plainer than that.
The line jags around between 50 and 60 deg S Latitude. Period.

The boat travelled at 15 knots on average and circumnavigated that course as shown and the boat logged his distance sailed as 14,500 nautical miles. Period the end. There were like 30 boats all doing the same thing with a flesh and blood captain on them. Every nuance of the journey was logged by the wonders of modern navigation and communications.


The flat Earth distance for that trip would have been well over 21,000 NM. Hence the Earth isn't flat.

If you want me not to get mad at you, admit you lost the argument and that I proved the Earth is a Sphere-ish object and I will buy you a beer sometime. :)
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this is an assumption

I don't really care if you get mad at me and you haven't proven anything.

other than boats can travel around the bottom of continents
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Richard Branson, billionaire Island trafficking Crew, with Epstein, Gates, Peter NY gardens and others.
He produces SHIT to the public in order to affect leveraging more money and power to worship himself, oh and there benevolent master Rothschild Corp
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so you base your entire premise on one unprovable point?
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I have never personally recreated the Cavendish Experiment, but I trust the gravitational constant when I run simulations based in Newtonian physics... and the results turn out as expected.
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post an example then
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Yep, gravitational constant works over here.


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cool simulation

still doesn't prove anything though
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Virgin Galactic FRAUD
3 separate video tracks

(1) exhaust looks CGI simulated
the background could be superimposed using video manipulation software overlays
not difficult, (see DEEPFAKE)

(2) @0:26 second mark abrupt scene change. here again the plane itself looks fake. the surfaces appear strangely model-like without appropriate detail. background again can be superimposed, not difficult

(3) @1:04 abrupt scene change, CGI

So, we have 3 very separate and distinct video tracks. We have no seamless entry into "space" from the lower atmosphere. Why is that ? Because it's faked.
CGI.

Frankly, these videos aren't even faked well.
Poor fakes.
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Richard Branson, billionaire Island trafficking Crew, with Epstein, Gates, Peter NY gardens and others.
He produces SHIT to the public in order to affect leveraging more money and power to worship himself, oh and there benevolent master Rothschild Corp
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Peter Nygard





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