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Christians, do you have the true gospel message?

 
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that 2nd paragraph was supposed to begin as "one of..." etc. Arthritis and poor lighting strike again. Not a conspiracy, other than perhaps the arthritis. Yes, I belong here.
signatures so often represent submission to criminal authority, so I am averse to signatures in any designation.
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In the end, if you want to believe the Holy Spirit == Jesus, I suppose it doesn't change much of your salvation, the gospel or the idea that every knee will bow to Jesus. If that makes you feel better, then I suppose it doesn't really matter what interpretation you like the best.
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Trinitarians believe that a "third person" who is DISTINCT from Jesus LIVES IN THEM in Jesus' place.

That's the spirit of the antichrist.

Scripture makes it clear that Jesus Himself lives in us, as opposed to "the third person of the trinitt" who is distinct from and NOT Jesus.

Big difference.
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In other words.. you cannot say that Jesus *IS NOT* Jehovah like you are trying to do. Scripture clearly reveals that Jesus IS Jehovah. Again.. you are DENYING what Scripture REVEALS.
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Thread: Father God is the "I AM' / God Almighty / Jehovah in Exodus. Not Jesus. Bible Study Scriptural Proof.
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Re: Christians, do you have the true gospel message?
Father God - Jehovah - "a voice from heaven,"
SON of God - Jesus Yashua
Holy Spirit - "the Spirit of God"

Thread: The Lord's Prayer - The ONLY Prayer Given the Apostles - Declares the Father as Sovereign - KJV Bible Study

"Holy Spirit Jesus impregnated Mary with Himself".

"Holy Spirit God Jesus spoke from heaven...
...then Holy Spirit Jesus landed on his own shoulder...
...filled himself WITH himslef...
...then LED himself into the wilderness"

"Holy Spirit Jesus danced on the heads of His disciples"

So...have you prayed to the

Holy Spirit Flaming Sword God Jesus

today???


Thread: Jesus is NOT The Holy Spirit / Holy Ghost / Spirit of God - NOR is it His Own Spirit - Bible Study
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Why lie?

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Why lie?
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I didn't lie you dumbass.
I NEVER called the Holy Spirit...
..."the third entity".

That's YOUR phrase.

Ignoramus.
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Why lie?
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I didn't lie you dumbass.
I NEVER called the Holy Spirit...
..."the third entity".

That's YOUR phrase.

Ignoramus.
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Why lie?

3 entities
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Why lie?
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I didn't lie you dumbass.
I NEVER called the Holy Spirit...
..."the third entity".

That's YOUR phrase.

Ignoramus.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Why lie?

3 entities
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You have a poor reading comprehension.

BIG difference between...

...3 entities...

...and...

..."the third entity".

IDIOT
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Why lie?
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I didn't lie you dumbass.
I NEVER called the Holy Spirit...
..."the third entity".

That's YOUR phrase.

Ignoramus.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Why lie?

3 entities
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75195347

You have a poor reading comprehension.

BIG difference between...

...3 entities...

...and...

..."the third entity".

IDIOT
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No "third entity".

No "trinity".

Deal with it.
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No "third entity".
No "trinity".
Deal with it.
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Deal with it.

Father God - Jehovah - "a voice from heaven,"
SON of God - Jesus Yashua was Baptised
Holy Spirit - "the Spirit of God" lamded ON Jesus

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No "third entity".
No "trinity".
Deal with it.
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Deal with it.


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Only 1 Mediator
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No "third entity", no "second mediator", no "name of the third entity", etc.
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hut up, that's precisely what you do.
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Yes, Jesus is the Holy Spirit, stop lying about what I claim.
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Then you are creating your OWN
VERSION of scripture.

If someone writes an article about
Prime Minister Trudeau, there may be
places in the article where they
simply write either "the Prime Minister"...
...OR "Trudeau".

Either one actually means "Prime Minister Trudeau".

....

You CLAIM "Jesus is the Holy Spirit"

You END UP with "Holy Spirit Jesus"

Which MEANS that wherever in scripture you see
either "Jesus" OR "the Holy Spirit"...
...you can REPLACE them with...

"Holy Spirit Jesus"

Here's what happens to Matthew 1...

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ "Holy Spirit Jesus" was on
this wise: When as his mother Mary was
espoused to Joseph, before they came
together, she was found with child
of the Holy Ghost. "Holy Spirit Jesus"


20 But while he thought on these things,
behold, the angel of the Lord appeared
unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph,
thou son of David, fear not to take unto
thee Mary thy wife: for that which is
conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
"Holy Spirit Jesus"


How is it that you CANNOT SEE this????
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No "third entity", no "second mediator", no "name of the third entity", etc.
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Father God - Jehovah - "a voice from heaven,"
SON of God - Jesus Yashua was Baptised
Holy Spirit - "the Spirit of God" lamded ON Jesus

YEP - that's THREE.
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Father God - Jehovah - "a voice from heaven,"
SON of God - Jesus Yashua was Baptised
Holy Spirit - "the Spirit of God" lamded ON Jesus

YEP - that's THREE.
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Nope. I read the same texts as you and I don't see three anything.

Are you delusional?
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Is God a God of confusion? Surely NOT.
Lt's take a look at the scriptural evidence.

"Jesus is God" proponents post these scriptures all the time.

1. John 1

2. Jesus in John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

3. Thomas in John 20:28 "My Lord and my God!"

4. Isaiah 9:6 "he will be called" - which is NOT the same as "he will BE" nor "he IS".

5. Revelation passages - which can easily be argued as Jesus merely "repeating" what the Father TOLD Him.

...

Now let's look at what the Father and Jesus said.

A. The Father said "I am God there is no one else." - Isaiah 46:9 and many other verses.

B. Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God" - John 17:3

C. Jesus said the Father is "My God" - John 20:17 and Revelation 3:12

D. Jesus and the Apostles use the phrase "Son of God" 46 times in the New Testament.

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E. Jesus NEVER says the phrases"I am God" OR "call me God".

F. No Apostle says the phrase "Jesus is God".

These last 2 ARE important - as IF it was to be "human" understanding of such - those phrases would have been SAID and written.
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Nope. I read the same texts as you and I don't see three anything.

Are you delusional?
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Can you READ???
Here's Jesus, the Holy Spirit and the Father
at the Baptism of Jesus.


Matthew 3

15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

17 - And lo a voice from heaven, saying,Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

2 Peter 1:16-18 CONFIRMS the Father SPOKE from Heaven

16 - For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

17 - For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

18 - And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
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Nope. I read the same texts as you and I don't see three anything.

Are you delusional?
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Can you READ???
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Can you?

2 Samuel 23:2
The Spirit of the Lord spoke through me;
His Word was on my tongue.

Ps 33:6
By the Word of the Lord the heavens were established; and all the power of them by the Spirit of his mouth

Ephesians 6:17
And take ye the helmet of health, and the sword of the Spirit, that is, the Word of God.

The Word (John 1:1) is the Spirit,

Same entity. Not two distinct entities, as YOU teach.
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Ez 1:3
the Word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the power of the LORD was there upon him.

Job 26:13
His Spirit made the heavens beautiful, and his power pierced the gliding serpent.
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Jesus and God were at times the same person because God was with Jesus, he is the Son of God, and this is no different than God himself said, I will send my Son. Now, take it up with The Lord God, he said they would call him Emanuel God is with us. The word was with Jesus and he spoke it, the word went forth from the being, Jesus said he was before others from the Old Testament, understand he came down from Heaven. You are making it harder than it is, he is the price that was paid for your sins, if you are not born and then you will not receive the Holy Spirit. God is all and all is God or part of him. He said I will send my Son, and he did. Except he was walking the earth because God gave a promise and he is not a lair.
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These are the times that tries men's and
women's souls!

May we come though it victorious!
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Bibles make good wood stove fuel.

The advent of Christianity was the beginning of THE end for the non-hew.
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Bibles make good wood stove fuel.

The advent of Christianity was the beginning of THE end for the non-hew.
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So you wouldn't want to go to be with God, would you?
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Also, if any believers out there have any doctrinal questions I will point you to what the Bible says if I am aware of the answer.
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When will the Rapture occur?
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#1) The "gathering" at the Lord's return will only include the wise Christians (those sound in doctrine).

#2) It cannot happen until the 6th seal of Revelation has broken. This includes a massive worldwide earthquake which will be unmistakable, followed by a full solar eclipse and a full lunar eclipse.



Solar and lunar eclipses are cyclical. If you look into the cycles of upcoming years, there are a handful which takeplace pretty close to one another.

But, if a massive earthquake has not preceded those celestial signs, they are not an indication of the Lord's soon return.
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It seems your position is both either a Mid-Trib or Pre-Wrath rapture, AND a Partial rapture. I haven't seen both of these theories merged into one theory before. Is this a unique position you have taken, or do you speak for a certain sect that believes this way?

Either way, I believe that neither are likely to be true. I believe all true Christians will be spared from the time of Jacob's Trouble; all of it, not just some of it. For it will be a time of testing for the nation that has taken Jacob's name, and for the rest of the unbelieving world. But not for Christians, and not particularly for some unrighteous Christians.

Just like the free gift of salvation, the rapture will also be a free gift. We deserve neither salvation nor the rapture. But Jesus has taken care of all of this with His free and sacrificial gifts to us. How can we improve upon His free gifts to us with our own human works? We can't. No amount of good works will earn us a seat at the Wedding Ceremony in heaven. And no amount of good works will earn us a ticket off this rock. It's completely up to God as what to do with us.

And He has decreed in His word that Jesus will come and collect his bride when the time is right. Our good or not-so-good works notwithstanding. When it is time to join our Savior, we will be taken. We have no control over whether we will go or not go. It's not our call to 'work' out. It's God's call. And He has spoken on the matter. The bride, the 'body' of Christ will not be torn apart. We will all go together as 1 body and 1 bride.

If you think it not fair for the backsliders to get a free ticket to heaven, there's no need to be jealous, or feel that an injustice will happen. Rest assured that such issues will be resolved at the Bema Seat of Judgment once we get to heaven. God is a just God, and will take care of such things when our rewards in heaven are handed out to some, and not handed out to others. Some will be greatly rewarded, while others will receive no rewards at all, and will arrive in heaven by the skin of their teeth. There should be no concern, everything will be justly sorted.

Maranatha!
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The New Testament warns that there are wrong gospels being preached. It also warns that the wrong Jesus is being preached. The true gospel message can be distilled into three fundamental components: Believe, repent, and follow Jesus.

The video below clearly, and simply teaches what those fundamental components mean:



The gospel message is cognitive. You hear it with your ears, understand it with your mind, and believe it with all your heart. Reject anything that goes against it as you walk out your faith according to His word.

The apostasy, or falling away from sound faith, prophesied in the Bible by Paul is now complete. There are no formal gatherings outside of small family households. If there is an organization claiming to represent God today, they are lying. It is the antichrist's kingdom pretending to represent God so they can trap anyone who would follow Jesus and keep them under control until they are counted a foolish Christian at Christ's return and then they would have to go through the hour of testing where the anticrhist's kingdom is unrestrained. The wise Christians who have avoided their schemes will be harvested and attend the marriage supper of the Lamb.

The word of God is very, very important in these last moments before Christ's return. Why? Because the Bible teaches that God, Himself, sends a strong delusion upon the world because people did not love the truth. The word of God is that truth, and it has wonderful knowledge that will train you in righteousness and give you promises to hold fast by faith as God delivers, protects, provides, and fights for you. There are a lot of bad translations out there, but the (NASB) New American Standard Bible is a solid translation.

Understanding these important points, I will now show you exactly what it means to be a Christian:


Christianity, after all, isn't something we do, it's something God does inside us, and through us when we follow Jesus' simple teachings on the gospel.
So what did Jesus teach? Well, he used agricultural metaphors a lot because true Christianity is organic growth.
What does a plant need to grow and flourish?

- seed
- water
- food
- light

Did Jesus equate these things with Christian practices? He sure did.

The Gospel Message = Seed (Matt. 13:1-9)

Faith = water (John 7:38)

Food = the word of God (Matt. 4:4)

Light = having a humble, repentant, teachable attitude as we all come across Biblical truth which outshines the current state of being of our soul (1 John 1:6-7).

Have you ever seen a plant that grew properly when lacking any one of those components above? If it grows at all, it grows all wonky and weird. It certainly won't be healthy. Christians need all of those components regularly to grow big and strong in the Lord.

A balanced Christian organic life would look like this:

- Understanding the true gospel message.
- Exercising your faith through regular prayer, trusting God's word when making decisions in life, and leaning on His grace when we are weak or faltering
- Eating true food by reading the word of God regularly and getting sound doctrine from true teachers
- Remaining humble and teachable as we walk out our faith and see how high God's standard is for us
In regards to prayer: Beware of outlandish dreams, visions, or "revelations" that come into your mind. These are the lying signs and wonders Jesus warned would come at the end. God stopped speaking directly to humanity when the New Testament was completed.

And thank God for being merciful to His children. It's now very easy to tell whether a dream, vision, or revelation is of God or not. It's not! And this, my friend, is coming from someone who has had some of the most incredible "experiences" of visions and dreams and lying prophetic utterances you could imagine. Thank You, Jesus for saving me from the lies of Satan!

Paul also teaches that "watering" is teaching people sound doctrine, like what this teaching does here. By God's grace I'm watering all the Christians who are going to pass by this thread. And let us never forget, it is God who gives the growth.

I also recommend sharply limiting exposure to mass media, as it is a trick of the devil to confuse and control Christians and distract them from the power of doing things God's way.
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It seems that we are getting closer to the end with events continuing to come faster and faster. Im fearful being on the wrong side when Jesus died return or upon my death. I grew up on church and I do believe that Jesus died for my sins and is the only way to God.t I continue to sin and I hate myself for it. I need to get back in church or at least start reading the bible again. I actually did download it today. I'm just worried.
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Bibles make good wood stove fuel.

The advent of Christianity was the beginning of THE end for the non-hew.
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So you wouldn't want to go to be with God, would you?
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Which god? There are probably millions and some seem to to be so pleasant as evidenced on this hell planet.

I certainly have no desire to be ruled with an iron rod either. By an incalculably malevolent bloodthirsty wrathful vengeful avaricious misanthropic misogynist Jealous bigoted sensitive to insult and criticism parasitic tribal war god of some old primitive tribes.

Thanks for you offer but no thank you.

I’ll choose for myself when I get to meet them in person and I will chooses then whom I wish to visit with, until then....
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Bibles make good wood stove fuel.

The advent of Christianity was the beginning of THE end for the non-hew.
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So you wouldn't want to go to be with God, would you?
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Which god? There are probably millions and some seem to be not so pleasant as evidenced on this hell planet.

I certainly have no desire to be ruled with an iron rod either by an incalculably malevolent bloodthirsty wrathful vengeful avaricious misanthropic misogynist Jealous bigoted sensitive to insult and criticism parasitic tribal war god of some ancient primitive tribes.

Thanks for you offer but no thank you.

I’ll choose for myself when I get to meet them in spirit and I will choose then whom I wish to visit with, until then....
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Edit Meet them in spirit.
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Why lie?
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I didn't lie you dumbass.
I NEVER called the Holy Spirit...
..."the third entity".

That's YOUR phrase.

Ignoramus.
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Out of all the phonies on GLP, this ^^^ is probably the most lost soul of all.

Servant of the Devil would be a far more apropos username.





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