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Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization

 
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Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization
"Bogdan Matei
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"Years ago, anthropologist Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization in a culture.

The student expected Mead to talk about fishhooks or clay pots or grinding stones.

But no.

Mead said that the first sign of civilization in an ancient culture was a femur (thighbone) that had been broken and then healed.

Mead explained that in the animal kingdom, if you break your leg, you die.

You cannot run from danger, get to the river for a drink or hunt for food. You are meat for prowling beasts.

No animal survives a broken leg long enough for the bone to heal.

A broken femur that has healed is evidence that someone has taken time to stay with the one who fell, has bound up the wound, has carried the person to safety and has tended the person through recovery.

Helping someone else through difficulty is where civilization starts, Mead said."

We are at our best when we serve others.

Be civilized.

- Ira Byock."

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Re: Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization
Neanderthals did this, so it's allot earlier than civilization. Neanderthals hunted large mammals in coordinated groups and had large clan gatherings.
But it does show that human empathy is inborn from the need to cooperate, not from a book of rules.
Temporary settlements near the vast Near Eastern grain fields are the first sign of civilization. Fermented gruel (beer) was the first civilized food.
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Re: Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization
very interesting!

also of note:

the femurs of hunter-gatherers were denser, sometimes longer, and had better defined holes where tendons and ligaments joined.

this means that person had stronger muscles and joints, and ate a diet that supported tall growth.

later, agriculture came into being.

bones became shorter, with less defined imprints of musscles and tendons. This indicated a shorter, less healthy life -

the gain was that agriculture enabled more people to live than hunting/gathering did.


tradeoffs, I guess.
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Re: Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization
"Bogdan Matei
26 March 2020 " ·


"Years ago, anthropologist Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization in a culture.

The student expected Mead to talk about fishhooks or clay pots or grinding stones.

But no.

Mead said that the first sign of civilization in an ancient culture was a femur (thighbone) that had been broken and then healed.

Mead explained that in the animal kingdom, if you break your leg, you die.

You cannot run from danger, get to the river for a drink or hunt for food. You are meat for prowling beasts.

No animal survives a broken leg long enough for the bone to heal.

A broken femur that has healed is evidence that someone has taken time to stay with the one who fell, has bound up the wound, has carried the person to safety and has tended the person through recovery.

Helping someone else through difficulty is where civilization starts, Mead said."

We are at our best when we serve others.

Be civilized.

- Ira Byock."

sweet
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Wow! That certainly makes sense. Have not heard her name (Margaret Mead) in ages hf
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Re: Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization
Great post OP
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Lovely post, thank you.
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Ahhhh, nice and something to think about over a cold glass of mead
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Great post!
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Re: Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization
Bull!
animals do this all the time.
this week I sore a vid of a wolf with a plastic
bottle big, asking humans for help to get it off.
the pack was not far off, to see they did not hurt it.
tell me would primitive humans ask other animals for help?

another one. a woman was being attackt by some men.
a Pack of lions run the men off!!!
then stay near by to keep her safe.
untill a pack of humans come to save her.
the lions then walk off.

not all animals are evil.
but most of the humans are.
They Know the harm they are doing....





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