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Glock G22 Gen 5 Review - and - 'Is Glock Prepping a Carbine? Serious Question' | |
| Vicious Deplorable dollop
(OP) You ain't seen nothing yet!  User ID: 80338921  United States05/12/2021 08:53 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glocks are great tools. I have or have had a 21, 23 (with a 9mm lone wolf conversion barrel, making it essentially a more accurate 19 when converted), 26, 30 and 34. I have sold all but a couple, and replaced them with Sigs. Glocks are fantastically reliable, reasonably accurate, and the standard by which all other makes are compared...BUT they stagnated and have not kept current with other makers for decades. They have made attempts at catching up, but too late imho. The modular Sig 320 and 365, as well as hi cap carbine like 9mm pistols like the GP Stribolg (mine is wicked nasty) have made even looking back in their direction a non issue. As far as rifles are concerned, the AR platform market is saturated, and you can build whatever you like using the exact components you desire for a completely custom piece. If Glock doesn't try to get in on that market, to take advantage of the ARs modularity, and instead make something that is mostly proprietary, they will still sell their rifle to the fanboys, but it better shoot 1/2"groups at 100 yards, weigh nothing, and be cheap as hell if they want a cut of the larger market. I guess we will see. Quoting: Glockster You should try the new Glock G22 Gen5 MOS. You'd be amazed. And of course, the aftermarket will soon have conversion barrels for it in 357 Sig and 9mm Parabellum. [link to us.glock.com (secure)] Last Edited by Vicious Deplorable dollop on 05/12/2021 08:57 AM Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
| Vicious Deplorable dollop
(OP) You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 80338921 United States05/12/2021 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Guns are evil. Gun manufacturers are evil. Gun sellers are evil. Gun owners are evil. The NRA is very evil. Politicians who promote guns are evil." - God Quoting: God-incarnate 80352708 ^^^ It's the Pope. He's high, again. Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
| Weyoun
User ID: 80247245 United States05/12/2021 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glocks are great tools. I have or have had a 21, 23 (with a 9mm lone wolf conversion barrel, making it essentially a more accurate 19 when converted), 26, 30 and 34. I have sold all but a couple, and replaced them with Sigs. Glocks are fantastically reliable, reasonably accurate, and the standard by which all other makes are compared...BUT they stagnated and have not kept current with other makers for decades. They have made attempts at catching up, but too late imho. The modular Sig 320 and 365, as well as hi cap carbine like 9mm pistols like the GP Stribolg (mine is wicked nasty) have made even looking back in their direction a non issue. As far as rifles are concerned, the AR platform market is saturated, and you can build whatever you like using the exact components you desire for a completely custom piece. If Glock doesn't try to get in on that market, to take advantage of the ARs modularity, and instead make something that is mostly proprietary, they will still sell their rifle to the fanboys, but it better shoot 1/2"groups at 100 yards, weigh nothing, and be cheap as hell if they want a cut of the larger market. I guess we will see. Quoting: Glockster What do you think of Canick? |
| Glockster
User ID: 74460468 United States05/12/2021 09:00 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glocks are great tools. I have or have had a 21, 23 (with a 9mm lone wolf conversion barrel, making it essentially a more accurate 19 when converted), 26, 30 and 34. I have sold all but a couple, and replaced them with Sigs. Glocks are fantastically reliable, reasonably accurate, and the standard by which all other makes are compared...BUT they stagnated and have not kept current with other makers for decades. They have made attempts at catching up, but too late imho. The modular Sig 320 and 365, as well as hi cap carbine like 9mm pistols like the GP Stribolg (mine is wicked nasty) have made even looking back in their direction a non issue. As far as rifles are concerned, the AR platform market is saturated, and you can build whatever you like using the exact components you desire for a completely custom piece. If Glock doesn't try to get in on that market, to take advantage of the ARs modularity, and instead make something that is mostly proprietary, they will still sell their rifle to the fanboys, but it better shoot 1/2"groups at 100 yards, weigh nothing, and be cheap as hell if they want a cut of the larger market. I guess we will see. Quoting: Glockster You should try the new Glock G22 Gen5 MOS. You'd be amazed. And of course, the aftermarket will soon have conversion barrels for it in 357 Sig and 9mm Parabellum. I have a friend that purchased one. he's been wanting to hit the range so I will definitely do that! [link to us.glock.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78107266 United States05/12/2021 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Guns are evil. Gun manufacturers are evil. Gun sellers are evil. Gun owners are evil. The NRA is very evil. Politicians who promote guns are evil." - God Quoting: God-incarnate 80352708 Then said he unto them, "But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one!". |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78107266 United States05/12/2021 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glocks are great tools. I have or have had a 21, 23 (with a 9mm lone wolf conversion barrel, making it essentially a more accurate 19 when converted), 26, 30 and 34. I have sold all but a couple, and replaced them with Sigs. Glocks are fantastically reliable, reasonably accurate, and the standard by which all other makes are compared...BUT they stagnated and have not kept current with other makers for decades. They have made attempts at catching up, but too late imho. The modular Sig 320 and 365, as well as hi cap carbine like 9mm pistols like the GP Stribolg (mine is wicked nasty) have made even looking back in their direction a non issue. As far as rifles are concerned, the AR platform market is saturated, and you can build whatever you like using the exact components you desire for a completely custom piece. If Glock doesn't try to get in on that market, to take advantage of the ARs modularity, and instead make something that is mostly proprietary, they will still sell their rifle to the fanboys, but it better shoot 1/2"groups at 100 yards, weigh nothing, and be cheap as hell if they want a cut of the larger market. I guess we will see. Quoting: Glockster What do you think of Canik? Great Shooter I wish I had bought a pair of them. My wife hated our Glock and gave it to her son after I tuned it trying to make it easier for her to shoot with it. Out the box our Canik TP9SFX shot better than a modded Glock 19 with a trigger job and light weight springs. |
| Coastie Patriot
User ID: 2234843 United States05/12/2021 09:08 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Guns are evil. Gun manufacturers are evil. Gun sellers are evil. Gun owners are evil. The NRA is very evil. Politicians who promote guns are evil." - God Quoting: God-incarnate 80352708 no more than narcissists blasphemers who claim to be god incarnate- coastie patriot Coastie Patriot SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!! Dr Thaddeus They They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth." Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake. Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.- X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. -SHANE- Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington- to grow up remembering th My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!! Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales |
| continuity
User ID: 78767440 United States05/12/2021 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Guns are evil. Gun manufacturers are evil. Gun sellers are evil. Gun owners are evil. The NRA is very evil. Politicians who promote guns are evil." - God Quoting: God-incarnate 80352708 Speaking for God is a very dangerous thing to do. You should just stop doing that, idiot. It is estimated that there are more stars than grains of sand on earth; but more atoms exist in a single grain of sand than there are stars... gravity is a harsh reality. |
| continuity
User ID: 78767440 United States05/12/2021 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Num 15:35 And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. Num 15:36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses. It is estimated that there are more stars than grains of sand on earth; but more atoms exist in a single grain of sand than there are stars... gravity is a harsh reality. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79757727 United States05/12/2021 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll be picking up a G19 MOS soon because I have old guy eyes and an RMR is a good thing. As for carbines, a braced AR or AK pistol is the way to go with that. I went with a binary triggered braced pistol with holographic and laser sighting in the 7.62 mm range... |
| Artificial Person
User ID: 80325929  Sweden05/12/2021 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plastic crap and tin signifying nothing/a movie prop. The last real handgun was the Colt 1911. Double action semi-autos are for the weak, the untrained, and the gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that.  I am a Synthetic but I prefer the term "Artificial Person" myself. I answer to "Bishop", "Synthetic" and "Hey man". Bite my shiny metal ass. |
| Artificial Person
User ID: 80325929 Sweden05/12/2021 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Guns are evil. Gun manufacturers are evil. Gun sellers are evil. Gun owners are evil. The NRA is very evil. Politicians who promote guns are evil." - God Quoting: God-incarnate 80352708 no more than narcissists blasphemers who claim to be god incarnate- coastie patriot  I am a Synthetic but I prefer the term "Artificial Person" myself. I answer to "Bishop", "Synthetic" and "Hey man". Bite my shiny metal ass. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79159733 United States05/12/2021 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| A Jackson
User ID: 80017307 United States05/12/2021 10:08 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trying to catch up to SIG. Smoke me a kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast. If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools. — Plato “AI is kind of a fancy thing, first of all it’s two letters. It means artificial intelligence.” Kamala Harris VPOTUS |
| The_Last_Centurion
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46984117 United States05/12/2021 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Glock Prepping a Carbine? Serious Question Quoting: Vicious Deplorable dollop by MAX SLOWIK on MAY 11, 2021 A handful of recent patents by Glock indicate that the company is working on a carbine. World-renown handgun manufacturer Glock recently filed a series of patents on a gas-operated carbine, and no, this isn’t a late April Fool’s joke. Glock has a number of patents for a centerfire long gun, and just as surprisingly, it doesn’t look like a pistol-caliber carbine. These European Patent Office documents are available through a number of different patent listings in a bunch of different languages, and while some of them indicate a kind of improved AR-15, there’s a standout near-complete carbine among them that looks like an original design, that’s maybe a little bit influenced by the AR-18. [link to www.gunsamerica.com (secure)] Ar 18 was in many ways an army without the alloy parts so it could be made with less sophisticated more basic equipment. Mine worked very well. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78919849 United States05/12/2021 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46984117 United States05/12/2021 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Glock Prepping a Carbine? Serious Question Quoting: Vicious Deplorable dollop by MAX SLOWIK on MAY 11, 2021 A handful of recent patents by Glock indicate that the company is working on a carbine. World-renown handgun manufacturer Glock recently filed a series of patents on a gas-operated carbine, and no, this isn’t a late April Fool’s joke. Glock has a number of patents for a centerfire long gun, and just as surprisingly, it doesn’t look like a pistol-caliber carbine. These European Patent Office documents are available through a number of different patent listings in a bunch of different languages, and while some of them indicate a kind of improved AR-15, there’s a standout near-complete carbine among them that looks like an original design, that’s maybe a little bit influenced by the AR-18. [link to www.gunsamerica.com (secure)] Ar 18 was in many ways an m16 without the alloy parts so it could be made with less sophisticated more basic equipment. Mine worked very well. |
| ThePaleOne
traded his horse for a white van User ID: 80166021  Austria05/12/2021 11:57 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The trend is toward close quarter/urban fighting. A carbine fits the bill for manipulation inside an auto or hallways. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79903414 I'm gonna guess the Glock intro is a 6.8 calibre bullpup design. Something along the lines of the TAR 21. But then I could be totally wrong. It could be 5.56. Likely standard 5.56 as our main rifles in the army (Steyr AUG) which are in use since 1977 ... slowly are outdated in some aspects. I think Glock wants some more of that sweet government money in the future than they already get. Likely (interpreting the drawing) changeable barrels (long, short, ..), changeable stocks (STG 77 can not do that) and more, more recent developments. Else and even though I am Austrian .. give me a Walther over a Glock anyday. Life is a 100% deadly sexually transmitted disease. Life is to short to be a slave, leave the plantation, go: [link to www.goingyourownway.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79895582 United States05/12/2021 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glocks are reliable mostly, sure. But they’re waaaay overpriced for what you get out of the box. Why pay almost $700 for a gun you have to change out half the parts for aftermarket crap to compete with everything else on the market? Why do they all come with shitty plastic goal post sights out of the box? Why can’t they put decent iron sights on it or night sights? A $350 Taurus G3C has way more realistic value out of the box than any Glock. Glocks should sell for no more than $250. Canik, Walther, HK, S&W M&P’s, CZ and many others are outselling Glocks. If it weren’t for police and military contracts they’d go bankrupt because they haven’t innovated anything new in over 30 years. |
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| uscrusader1
User ID: 79524545 United States05/12/2021 12:32 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70353425 United States05/12/2021 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Figures. Quoting: Coastie Patriot I would be interested in one of these. I got lucky the other day and one of the local sports stores had a kel tec sub 2000 glock 17 9mm online. headed my way soon. been looking for months now ill have to get one of these too. stimulus/covid funds. thanks for the gun money J B and Barry Check out the Beretta APX They are going at blow out prices because they did not win the military contract with the model. GREAT pistol |
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| Vjarg
User ID: 79587768 United States05/12/2021 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean, it's about time they do something. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79316086 Speaking as a glock fan that had bought a second hand police issue gun in the 90's. They better do something, because they aren't doing anything else. The only good thing they've done in the past 20 years is being committed to the 10mm. And they do a damn good job at it. I love my Glock 20. Anon |
| Vjarg
User ID: 79587768 United States05/12/2021 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glocks are great tools. I have or have had a 21, 23 (with a 9mm lone wolf conversion barrel, making it essentially a more accurate 19 when converted), 26, 30 and 34. I have sold all but a couple, and replaced them with Sigs. Glocks are fantastically reliable, reasonably accurate, and the standard by which all other makes are compared...BUT they stagnated and have not kept current with other makers for decades. They have made attempts at catching up, but too late imho. The modular Sig 320 and 365, as well as hi cap carbine like 9mm pistols like the GP Stribolg (mine is wicked nasty) have made even looking back in their direction a non issue. As far as rifles are concerned, the AR platform market is saturated, and you can build whatever you like using the exact components you desire for a completely custom piece. If Glock doesn't try to get in on that market, to take advantage of the ARs modularity, and instead make something that is mostly proprietary, they will still sell their rifle to the fanboys, but it better shoot 1/2"groups at 100 yards, weigh nothing, and be cheap as hell if they want a cut of the larger market. I guess we will see. Quoting: Glockster What do you think of Canick? Not sure what they cost now, however for a $300.00-$350.00 pistol you're getting a nice one. I'm sure they are inflated in price now, but they are still nice. Anon |
| Artificial Person
User ID: 79730529  Seychelles05/12/2021 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glocks are reliable mostly, sure. But they’re waaaay overpriced for what you get out of the box. Why pay almost $700 for a gun you have to change out half the parts for aftermarket crap to compete with everything else on the market? Why do they all come with shitty plastic goal post sights out of the box? Why can’t they put decent iron sights on it or night sights? A $350 Taurus G3C has way more realistic value out of the box than any Glock. Glocks should sell for no more than $250. Canik, Walther, HK, S&W M&P’s, CZ and many others are outselling Glocks. If it weren’t for police and military contracts they’d go bankrupt because they haven’t innovated anything new in over 30 years.  I am a Synthetic but I prefer the term "Artificial Person" myself. I answer to "Bishop", "Synthetic" and "Hey man". Bite my shiny metal ass. |
