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Simple question to anti-vaxxers

 
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


I am not afraid of vaccines. I am smart enough not to trust the people who are hyping experimental gene therapy who ask for immunity for any and all wrongdoings and mistakes they commit yet ask me to submit to a shot they do not have enough data on to make a proper package insert listing all ingredients, contraindications, and short and long term side effects.
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


How about go fu$k yourself idiot.
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
Propaganda
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


Why do you care?
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Because misery loves company
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too
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No. The Virus is just a common cold.
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
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Your car eventually breaks down. Then you fix it.

Get it?
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You are an idiot.... Get it?
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05/08/2021 10:44 AM
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
Where is the logic in allowing verifiable psychopaths, who don't give a fuck about me, to inject me with something that alters my DNA?
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


the so called vaccine DOES NOT PREVENT INFECTION

you dumb, dumb, fucking, fuck. s226
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I know several who had covid and had none of that
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


There's no way for us to believe the governments aren't putting something nefarious into these injections.

They aren't trustworthy.

If I die from the 99.9% survivability virus, so be it.
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


To start with no virus that causes any disease in humans has been isolated.

and then there is this.

Vaccine does NOT prevent infection
Vaccine does NOT stop the spread
Vaccine MAY lessen symptoms

which is pretty much what not getting the 'vaccine' does
without the risk of having foreign substances injected into my body.

A foreign substance manufactured by companies who have put dangerous drugs on the market before and who accept no liability for the product.

You want to be part of the experiment go for it but I and many others want no part of it
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
everyone wants the hope that vaccines present

everyone also knows that everything man-made is for crappie lately
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


I am not afraid of vaccines. I am smart enough not to trust the people who are hyping experimental gene therapy who ask for immunity for any and all wrongdoings and mistakes they commit yet ask me to submit to a shot they do not have enough data on to make a proper package insert listing all ingredients, contraindications, and short and long term side effects.
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clappa
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05/08/2021 10:53 AM
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
THis is fucking stupid. If you are healthy this virus does nothing to you, if you even get it to begin with. I supposedly got it back in January of this year, so the test said, but I felt like it was just a seasonal cold. Why? Cuz I'm not a lard ass, smoker, sedentary piece of shit. So, I can either deal with it like this, or take some frankenstein bullshit into my body that will do God knows what to me? Good logic, Moran.

BTW, I only got tested because my work made me. I came to work one morning with an elevated temp, 99.5, they sent me home and said I could quarantine for 14 days, of which I only had 1 week of "Covid Pay", or get the test and come back if negative. Either way, I missed two weeks of work, and only got paid for 1. Fucking pissed me off, since I work a ton of overtime and "Covid Pay" didn't cover any of that, just a straight 40 hours. So, I missed out on a bunch of money, just over some common cold. Bunch Pussies everyone is.
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
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The NON-VAXXED GET TO RECOVER, The VAXXED DON’T!!!
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


So, you are saying you would choose spongiform encephalopathy over a virus with a 98% survival rate? You're most certainly a GENIUS!

It's called reading. Give it a whirl.
 Quoting: Gnarlin

But wait? Which part of the vaccine is supposed to give you spongiform encephalopathy?

Oh, yes, the spike protein, which is in the f*cking virus in the first place!

So again, where is the logic?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642

Ivermectin is the logic... If you look at real world evidence the experimental vaccines actual effectiveness is no greater than that of all the ivermectin studies only ivermectin works by keeping covid from multiplying it keeps covid from producing spike proteins where as the experimental vaccine produces those spike proteins... Ivermectin is known to be safe, has few side effects and as effective as the vacs so why are the vaca being pushed over it? $$$$$$$ only answer there is... Now extrapolate that line of thinking... Money is more important than people's health lives and stopping this so called pandemic... No do you still trust an experimental vaccine?
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


So, you are saying you would choose spongiform encephalopathy over a virus with a 98% survival rate? You're most certainly a GENIUS!

It's called reading. Give it a whirl.
 Quoting: Gnarlin

But wait? Which part of the vaccine is supposed to give you spongiform encephalopathy?

Oh, yes, the spike protein, which is in the f*cking virus in the first place!

So again, where is the logic?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


Accordingly to the mainstream official fake science they never isolated the virus (to avoid to say what's in it and that it's clearly a product of a lab if not that Russia, Indua and Japan did isolated it but they were then push to silence) so under their own fake science they created a fully synthetic spike...that it so designed to mime other important human proteins

once you have a immune reaction your body will attack similar spikes every where in the body...brain,blood vessels, genitals, lungs, heart, liver, kidneys etc
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
Is op still here? I want to know where h comes up with the assumption that people who recovered from covid will face long term complications?
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


Where is it shown that SARS-CoV-2 causes infertility???
The natural antibodies, for an example in this context, do not cross over into fetus. The antobodies induced by the experimental treatment, however, do. With so far unknown effect. Might as well render all vaccinated women infertile.

How many young people died of cerebral venous thrombosis due to SARS-CoV-2 versus the experimental treatment?

Your logic: some X is bad -> use some Y even worse to destroy yourself so you will not suffer from X.
Get vaxxed ASAP idiot!
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05/08/2021 11:12 AM
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
Not anti vax and not afraid.

I trust God and live without fear.

I had covid twice, thought I was going to die. It wasn't my time.

When your number's up your number's up. The HOW is just a small detail.

I've sought help from the medical industry various times in my life- and aside from helping me through two childbirths they harmed me instead of helped me.

I'll take my chances and leave it up to God. He is bigger than any virus.

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*Simple Question to Pro-Vaxxers*

If a virus has a 98% survival rate and further statistical data shows that the vast majority of deaths, around 80%, are occuring in only about 20% of the population (age demographic 65+), AND of those deaths, less than 6% of which are tied directly to the virus alone (i.e. not in tandem with 2 or more other pre-existing and advanced comorbid conditions)

(Which equals to roughly 35,000 people in the US or about .0001% of the population since the "pandemic" began)

THEN what exactly is the hasty reasoning in mass vaccinating an entire population which is neither likely to contract or succumb to said virus based on the mountains of statical data already provided to us by the CDC itself?

And furthermore, why are we pretending a blanket vaccine should be the only answer to this problem when, again, the virus is largely only detrimentally affecting individuals with comorbidities? Should we not stress equal importance on health and life style choices that might lead to diabetes or heart disease, illnesses which apparently reinforce the virus's deadliness?

Please answer these simple common sense questions.
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


The NON-VAXXED GET TO RECOVER, The VAXXED DON’T!!!
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This is the source of my hesitancy, one cannot get unvaxxed. This is unlike traditional vaccines when you are injected with an attenuated form of the virus so your body can create antibodies to fight it.This is new technology of which long term effects are unknown.

I have been trying to find a easy to understand video of the role of messaging RNA in cell mitosis but this will have to do.

[link to ocw.mit.edu (secure)]
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


The NON-VAXXED GET TO RECOVER, The VAXXED DON’T!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80158225


This is the source of my hesitancy, one cannot get unvaxxed. This is unlike traditional vaccines when you are injected with an attenuated form of the virus so your body can create antibodies to fight it.This is new technology of which long term effects are unknown.

I have been trying to find a easy to understand video of the role of messaging RNA in cell mitosis but this will have to do.

[link to ocw.mit.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78439945


Ok here is a more accessible video. 20 years I had been intrigued by the use of Microbiology to create nano sized protein folded structures. This plays a key role.
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*Simple Question to Pro-Vaxxers*

If a virus has a 98% survival rate and further statistical data shows that the vast majority of deaths, around 80%, are occuring in only about 20% of the population (age demographic 65+), AND of those deaths, less than 6% of which are tied directly to the virus alone (i.e. not in tandem with 2 or more other pre-existing and advanced comorbid conditions)

(Which equals to roughly 35,000 people in the US or about .0001% of the population since the "pandemic" began)

THEN what exactly is the hasty reasoning in mass vaccinating an entire population which is neither likely to contract or succumb to said virus based on the mountains of statical data already provided to us by the CDC itself?

And furthermore, why are we pretending a blanket vaccine should be the only answer to this problem when, again, the virus is largely only detrimentally affecting individuals with comorbidities? Should we not stress equal importance on health and life style choices that might lead to diabetes or heart disease, illnesses which apparently reinforce the virus's deadliness?

Please answer these simple common sense questions.
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So you're just saying if they die they die, screw them, they were unhealthy bastards anyway.

Makes sense, considering like 60% of the US adult population has one or more "comorbidities".

You're just antisocial scum.

Old people - fuck them, they are only a burden,
Sick people - fuck them, they are only a burden
Anybody who isn't in "perfect health" - yuck, let them die

Too bad it's majority of the Western population,

Hahaha, morons
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*Simple Question to Pro-Vaxxers*

If a virus has a 98% survival rate and further statistical data shows that the vast majority of deaths, around 80%, are occuring in only about 20% of the population (age demographic 65+), AND of those deaths, less than 6% of which are tied directly to the virus alone (i.e. not in tandem with 2 or more other pre-existing and advanced comorbid conditions)

(Which equals to roughly 35,000 people in the US or about .0001% of the population since the "pandemic" began)

THEN what exactly is the hasty reasoning in mass vaccinating an entire population which is neither likely to contract or succumb to said virus based on the mountains of statical data already provided to us by the CDC itself?

And furthermore, why are we pretending a blanket vaccine should be the only answer to this problem when, again, the virus is largely only detrimentally affecting individuals with comorbidities? Should we not stress equal importance on health and life style choices that might lead to diabetes or heart disease, illnesses which apparently reinforce the virus's deadliness?

Please answer these simple common sense questions.
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So you're just saying if they die they die, screw them, they were unhealthy bastards anyway.

Makes sense, considering like 60% of the US adult population has one or more "comorbidities".

You're just antisocial scum.

Old people - fuck them, they are only a burden,
Sick people - fuck them, they are only a burden
Anybody who isn't in "perfect health" - yuck, let them die

Too bad it's majority of the Western population,

Hahaha, morons
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


So you found the reply you were looking for?

But:
Vaccinated elderly people die AFTER the experimental treatment.
Diseased people die AFTER the experimental treatment.
This experimental treatment actually accelerates death.
Now what?

"Hahaha"
Yeah, YOUR kind of humor.

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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
*Simple Question to Pro-Vaxxers*

If a virus has a 98% survival rate and further statistical data shows that the vast majority of deaths, around 80%, are occuring in only about 20% of the population (age demographic 65+), AND of those deaths, less than 6% of which are tied directly to the virus alone (i.e. not in tandem with 2 or more other pre-existing and advanced comorbid conditions)

(Which equals to roughly 35,000 people in the US or about .0001% of the population since the "pandemic" began)

THEN what exactly is the hasty reasoning in mass vaccinating an entire population which is neither likely to contract or succumb to said virus based on the mountains of statical data already provided to us by the CDC itself?

And furthermore, why are we pretending a blanket vaccine should be the only answer to this problem when, again, the virus is largely only detrimentally affecting individuals with comorbidities? Should we not stress equal importance on health and life style choices that might lead to diabetes or heart disease, illnesses which apparently reinforce the virus's deadliness?

Please answer these simple common sense questions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77668801

So you're just saying if they die they die, screw them, they were unhealthy bastards anyway.

Makes sense, considering like 60% of the US adult population has one or more "comorbidities".

You're just antisocial scum.

Old people - fuck them, they are only a burden,
Sick people - fuck them, they are only a burden
Anybody who isn't in "perfect health" - yuck, let them die

Too bad it's majority of the Western population,

Hahaha, morons
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80338642


So I presume you've been doing equal advocating for healthy life style choices, eating right, avoiding sugar etc? Because clearly the virus does not affect those in good health on the same level, so why the silence over comorbidities?

And I am not anti-social but numbers do matter. It might seem Cold but I see no compelling logic treat 100% of the population for something that's only negatively affecting a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a single percentage point of the population. And yes, Covid or not those individuals are probably not far off anyway. We already know that deaths have been marked Covid deaths just in the simple fact that said individuals tested positive for Covid prior to their passing, so can you even prove without a shadow of a doubt that Covid is indeed the culprit for any deaths involving multiple other advanced comorbidities being present?
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The "vaccine" was not created for COVID.

COVID was created for the vaccine.

WHAT?

The "vaccine" was not created for COVID.

COVID was created for the vaccine.

Problem

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Solution
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
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If you have a chance of being hit by a car and dying, why not jump in front of a smaller car today?5a
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What kind of a retard thinks we are scared of the vaccine?

I simply read the ingredients list and I think a person would be a fool to inject this into their bloodstream.
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Re: Simple question to anti-vaxxers
If you are afraid of the vaccines, because spike protein, blood clots, infertility, any other long-term side-effects,

then the virus causes all this and you get actual disease too

So basically by avoiding vaccine, you are exposing yourself to infection, which will give you the same side effects as the vaccine and then COVID disease on top of that

Where is the logic in that?
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I'll make you a deal. Learn how to construct a cohesive sentence and the we can discuss logic.





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