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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67904014 United States 05/05/2021 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The logic behind an hourly rate is absurd: Quoting: BRIEF A lazy unskilled dildo will end up making you more than a professional if you charge by the hour... Flat rate is still considered hourly, just not chronological. If a job pays 4 hours. You get 4 hours. If your good and get it done in 2 you will make money. If you suck and it takes you 6 hours youll be looking for work soon. If a technician applies with me and is afraid to work flat rate I wont even consider him because I know hes a dud. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67904014 United States 05/05/2021 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I own an auto shop with 20+ employees and we were closed from March 28 - the first week of June last year. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39164599 When we did come back half the employees stayed out citing fear of Covid...Meanwhile they're home collecting more money in unemployment than they made in salary..Now we are packed to the rafters w/ no one here to work. -This is COMMUNISM people better wake the fuck up and organize its time. Working for shops is too much. You demand too much of their time and there is NO EXCEPTIONS. 20 min late your fired. Well fuck you Il go work for myself. Fuck auto shop bosses never met one who was not a greedy big mouth mean asshole. . Bet you cant fix shit in a reasonable time. Probably never beat flat rate time. I treat my guys who are good like kings. Literally. Gave one guy a 4 wheeler as a bonus last xmas. Gave 3 other guys 2k$ each bonus.....alot of other guys got 50$ gift cards to the grocery. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80319674 United States 05/05/2021 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I once was a service writer for the local muffler shop in town (I’ve done just about everything) Quoting: Golfcart 77110102 My kid started as a auto tech at 17 at the dealership in town, he’s 21 now, he’s got more money than me... Here's the kick. If you are the best, you can fix a car in ten minutes, but why should you only charge ten minutes labor? No, the skill and talent that allows me to diagnose and fix a car in just a few minutes, where the other guys are scratching their head trying to figure it out, allows me to charge MORE... I spent 12 years practicing the skill and buying the tools to enable me to do the job in ten minutes.....your paying for the years not the minutes. When I was doing this kind of work I would tell the customer what was actually wrong and give him a price for labor. For instance replacing a throttle position sensor or O2 sensor would take me five minutes, but I would charge 100 dollars. Just to move the car around is a pain in the ass, and deal with the customers. I told them what was wrong from the get go and that was FREE. They could always try to do it themselves but most are afraid to. If he didn't like the quote he could always go somewhere else. It's not just the work you are paying for , its the knowledge you dont have yourself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50331143 United States 05/05/2021 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nobody wants to work Quoting: CharlieFoxtrot he has work backed up the employees I saw were over 50 years old I am contemplating quitting my IT job and going to work in a muffler shop, at least my work will have some meaning. Anyone see the new Tom and Jerry movie ? Not the tweaker version but the sober version Oh wait there isn’t a sober version of Tom and Jerry There all tweakers I’m a speedy Gonzalez guy my self They should have named his Pedro Gonzalez |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79094956 05/05/2021 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A good mechanic who knows his shit and has the proper tools and setup can EASILY make 300 grand per year these days. A muffler shop hire will be lucky to afford the basic needs, mainly because people like Brief own them Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80319674 . 1000 a day minimum. Most trained mechanics get 50-80 dollars an hour WORKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE. If they work for themselves it can amount to 200 an hour easily. Same with a welder or a carpenter. A welder with his own equipment can contract out for half a million / year in some cases. On the other hand, a trained IT worker will be lucky to top 40 grand to start. Everyone wants to go into IT these days, or some job connected to it thinking it is the wave of the future. In the meantime their cars have to be fixed, their bridges built and their buildings constructed, and none of them have the skills to pour piss out of a leaky boot.. I have a degree in mechanical engineering and training in electrical engineering, but to be honest with you I made twice as much actually working with my hands AND my mind. And it's a lot more rewarding work. Nope Trained mechanics these days are topping out 100k in the dealership, thats having years of experience and certifications and doing warranty work. Working for a private guy you can expect maybe 20 an hour, maybe more after working for him several years. Its the overhead of a shop that drives up the cost of repairs. But heres the thing, people are too cheap today. They would rather drive their car into the ground and get a new one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75830552 United States 05/05/2021 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79094956 So you think he's gonna hire you with no experience? go on ask him what the requirements are to start working what's the name of this shop and where's it located? I think he would hire anyone who would consistently show up, be willing to learn, I check those boxes all day long. you are delusional first off you have 0 experience its going to take time for you to learn the audacity of you to think you can just waltz in and start doing that kind of work You said you do IT, well i can just show up to work consistently and be willing to learn, so where's the IT firm that's going to hire me with no experience? holy crap the ego on you but i would be entertained to watch you actually tell him you would like the job I would love to watch your face as he explains how he needs someone who can start work right away , not someone that will spend weeks to months learning, and then years perfecting the art holy shit "first off you have 0 experience" WTF do you know about me? other than I work in IT now. It is just some idiot who thinks auto mechanics are special Most i ever seen are half ass and liars to boot My mother been going to same one for years wbo owns a shop and teaches at university They charged her so much money to repair a problem they never repaired I took a few minutes to figure it out. The rubber intake boot was cracked and some idiot put electrical tape around it I bought a new rubber boot for 50$ a fixed problem with engine rpm Idiots |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80319674 United States 05/05/2021 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody respects mechanics. Everyone wants it done now for free. Fuk working on cars and I am an expert with all the tools. No way everyone is a pain in the ass in those shops esp the bosses. ASSHOLES. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72553316 my car was leaking exhaust from the engine compartment. I had a mechanic check it out and he said an exhaust manifold had a crack in it. The cost to fix it could easily be $1000 or more. I decided i would learn how to do it myself. I spent 100s of hours watching how-to videos. When i was ready, i open the hood to inspect the manifold and what i found shocked me! The manifold was missing nuts on two of the studs. I replaced the nuts and the leak was sealed. I suppose the mechanic who replaced my engine a couple of years earilier did not tighten them properly. The mechanic who checked it out was incompetent or a liar - maybe both. So you are damned right! Nobody repects a fcuking mechanic! They are low IQ liars and thieves! Yea some are. But so are the people who made that phone or computer you are using. So are most doctors. The world is profit driven and thats the true issue. A good mechanic has a valuable skill that no machine or computer can replace. A computer can plug into a car and show the mechanic how things are functioning but it still takes an experienced human mind to unravel the information. And for those of you who insist mechanics are dumb monkeys, these days they have to basically be electronic engineers and computer IT techs just to diagnose all of the complex electrical systems of a modern car. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73325610 United States 05/05/2021 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nobody wants to work Quoting: CharlieFoxtrot he has work backed up the employees I saw were over 50 years old I am contemplating quitting my IT job and going to work in a muffler shop, at least my work will have some meaning. I heard that kind of work is exhausting... HIYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80319674 United States 05/05/2021 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A good mechanic who knows his shit and has the proper tools and setup can EASILY make 300 grand per year these days. A muffler shop hire will be lucky to afford the basic needs, mainly because people like Brief own them Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80319674 . 1000 a day minimum. Most trained mechanics get 50-80 dollars an hour WORKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE. If they work for themselves it can amount to 200 an hour easily. Same with a welder or a carpenter. A welder with his own equipment can contract out for half a million / year in some cases. On the other hand, a trained IT worker will be lucky to top 40 grand to start. Everyone wants to go into IT these days, or some job connected to it thinking it is the wave of the future. In the meantime their cars have to be fixed, their bridges built and their buildings constructed, and none of them have the skills to pour piss out of a leaky boot.. I have a degree in mechanical engineering and training in electrical engineering, but to be honest with you I made twice as much actually working with my hands AND my mind. And it's a lot more rewarding work. Nope Trained mechanics these days are topping out 100k in the dealership, thats having years of experience and certifications and doing warranty work. Working for a private guy you can expect maybe 20 an hour, maybe more after working for him several years. Its the overhead of a shop that drives up the cost of repairs. But heres the thing, people are too cheap today. They would rather drive their car into the ground and get a new one. yeah, working for someone else.... A smart mechanic doesnt work for someone else. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78901097 United States 05/05/2021 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When my house was built they installed wiring for an alarm system and left the tails loose in each room. I got a quote from the sparks who did the installation for competing the system. 1,000 euro. I bought the necessary hardware from a box store for 60 euro and fitted it myself, took a weekend. I'm in the wrong job.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79094956 05/05/2021 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A good mechanic who knows his shit and has the proper tools and setup can EASILY make 300 grand per year these days. A muffler shop hire will be lucky to afford the basic needs, mainly because people like Brief own them Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80319674 . 1000 a day minimum. Most trained mechanics get 50-80 dollars an hour WORKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE. If they work for themselves it can amount to 200 an hour easily. Same with a welder or a carpenter. A welder with his own equipment can contract out for half a million / year in some cases. On the other hand, a trained IT worker will be lucky to top 40 grand to start. Everyone wants to go into IT these days, or some job connected to it thinking it is the wave of the future. In the meantime their cars have to be fixed, their bridges built and their buildings constructed, and none of them have the skills to pour piss out of a leaky boot.. I have a degree in mechanical engineering and training in electrical engineering, but to be honest with you I made twice as much actually working with my hands AND my mind. And it's a lot more rewarding work. Nope Trained mechanics these days are topping out 100k in the dealership, thats having years of experience and certifications and doing warranty work. Working for a private guy you can expect maybe 20 an hour, maybe more after working for him several years. Its the overhead of a shop that drives up the cost of repairs. But heres the thing, people are too cheap today. They would rather drive their car into the ground and get a new one. yeah, working for someone else.... A smart mechanic doesnt work for someone else. Yea so you pay what 3k or more a month to rent a shop and then pray people come to you ? Seen many shops start and close in the first year due to lack of business. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79094956 05/05/2021 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A good mechanic who knows his shit and has the proper tools and setup can EASILY make 300 grand per year these days. A muffler shop hire will be lucky to afford the basic needs, mainly because people like Brief own them Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80319674 . 1000 a day minimum. Most trained mechanics get 50-80 dollars an hour WORKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE. If they work for themselves it can amount to 200 an hour easily. Same with a welder or a carpenter. A welder with his own equipment can contract out for half a million / year in some cases. On the other hand, a trained IT worker will be lucky to top 40 grand to start. Everyone wants to go into IT these days, or some job connected to it thinking it is the wave of the future. In the meantime their cars have to be fixed, their bridges built and their buildings constructed, and none of them have the skills to pour piss out of a leaky boot.. I have a degree in mechanical engineering and training in electrical engineering, but to be honest with you I made twice as much actually working with my hands AND my mind. And it's a lot more rewarding work. Nope Trained mechanics these days are topping out 100k in the dealership, thats having years of experience and certifications and doing warranty work. Working for a private guy you can expect maybe 20 an hour, maybe more after working for him several years. Its the overhead of a shop that drives up the cost of repairs. But heres the thing, people are too cheap today. They would rather drive their car into the ground and get a new one. yeah, working for someone else.... A smart mechanic doesnt work for someone else. To be fair theres a difference between a good business man and a good mechanic. The good business man has others do the work for him, but he himself cant efficiently fix cars. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67904014 United States 05/05/2021 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody respects mechanics. Everyone wants it done now for free. Fuk working on cars and I am an expert with all the tools. No way everyone is a pain in the ass in those shops esp the bosses. ASSHOLES. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72553316 my car was leaking exhaust from the engine compartment. I had a mechanic check it out and he said an exhaust manifold had a crack in it. The cost to fix it could easily be $1000 or more. I decided i would learn how to do it myself. I spent 100s of hours watching how-to videos. When i was ready, i open the hood to inspect the manifold and what i found shocked me! The manifold was missing nuts on two of the studs. I replaced the nuts and the leak was sealed. I suppose the mechanic who replaced my engine a couple of years earilier did not tighten them properly. The mechanic who checked it out was incompetent or a liar - maybe both. So you are damned right! Nobody repects a fcuking mechanic! They are low IQ liars and thieves! Yea some are. But so are the people who made that phone or computer you are using. So are most doctors. The world is profit driven and thats the true issue. A good mechanic has a valuable skill that no machine or computer can replace. A computer can plug into a car and show the mechanic how things are functioning but it still takes an experienced human mind to unravel the information. And for those of you who insist mechanics are dumb monkeys, these days they have to basically be electronic engineers and computer IT techs just to diagnose all of the complex electrical systems of a modern car. ^ This is 100 % true. You arent just hooking up a DRB and its tells you cam sensor.....misfire #3..... thats 90s tech. your looking at sign waves and readouts of impulse blips from multiple sensors. They arent labeled. You need to know what its supposed to look like for the car your working on to see what is wrong. |
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User ID: 77829313 United Kingdom 05/05/2021 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nobody wants to work Quoting: CharlieFoxtrot he has work backed up the employees I saw were over 50 years old I am contemplating quitting my IT job and going to work in a muffler shop, at least my work will have some meaning. Thats with all these kind of jobs, nobody wants to be a repair man. loop. ldx #$09 dly. dex nop bne. dly stx. $c030 jmp. loop |
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User ID: 79848633 United States 05/05/2021 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nobody wants to work Quoting: CharlieFoxtrot he has work backed up the employees I saw were over 50 years old I am contemplating quitting my IT job and going to work in a muffler shop, at least my work will have some meaning. I am in IT too and I know in my heart I am just helping all this AI bs move forward |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80318429 United States 05/05/2021 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nobody wants to work Quoting: CharlieFoxtrot he has work backed up the employees I saw were over 50 years old I am contemplating quitting my IT job and going to work in a muffler shop, at least my work will have some meaning. I heard that kind of work is exhausting... I saw 2 overweight old dudes getting it done. The job requires a little more whit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77232625 Argentina 05/05/2021 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75032015 You spent hundreds of hours learning how to tighten two nuts and you call mechanics low IQ cretins? If you were REALLY smarter than they were you wouldn't have had a whole engine replaced because it had a bad MAF sensor Yes, there are dishonest mechanics, and they see a Mc Mansion type cubical class retard coming from a mile away in his fancy fucking crossover SUV. Most of them would never rip off a fellow working man, but there are exceptions to every rule. That mechanic probably took a newer engine in better shape out of his car, replaced it with a much higher mileage POS and sold his engine. And if I knew his attitude, it's what I would have done as soon as I learned how to operate a screwdriver. Air rachets scare me so it's been hard for me to stay in the garage for more than 2-3 minutes at a time. Think about that, folks, I'm an unskilled laborer, pretending to be a mechanic, working on the car that can kill you or your family any time you drive it. You sound like a complete idiot, which is why you're unemployed and posting on GLP all day Mon-Fri. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78459304 United States 05/05/2021 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nobody wants to work Quoting: CharlieFoxtrot he has work backed up the employees I saw were over 50 years old I am contemplating quitting my IT job and going to work in a muffler shop, at least my work will have some meaning. I heard that kind of work is exhausting... Pipe down with your negativity and back pressure! At least his message resonates with some of us. Relax, I'm just kidding. Don't blow a gasket. (muffled laughter) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14616612 United States 05/05/2021 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody respects mechanics. Everyone wants it done now for free. Fuk working on cars and I am an expert with all the tools. No way everyone is a pain in the ass in those shops esp the bosses. ASSHOLES. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72553316 my car was leaking exhaust from the engine compartment. I had a mechanic check it out and he said an exhaust manifold had a crack in it. The cost to fix it could easily be $1000 or more. I decided i would learn how to do it myself. I spent 100s of hours watching how-to videos. When i was ready, i open the hood to inspect the manifold and what i found shocked me! The manifold was missing nuts on two of the studs. I replaced the nuts and the leak was sealed. I suppose the mechanic who replaced my engine a couple of years earilier did not tighten them properly. The mechanic who checked it out was incompetent or a liar - maybe both. So you are damned right! Nobody repects a fcuking mechanic! They are low IQ liars and thieves! You spent hundreds of hours learning how to tighten two nuts and you call mechanics low IQ cretins? If you were REALLY smarter than they were you wouldn't have had a whole engine replaced because it had a bad MAF sensor Yes, there are dishonest mechanics, and they see a Mc Mansion type cubical class retard coming from a mile away in his fancy fucking crossover SUV. Most of them would never rip off a fellow working man, but there are exceptions to every rule. you must be a mechanic. You have no reading compehension skill. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80319674 United States 05/05/2021 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A good mechanic who knows his shit and has the proper tools and setup can EASILY make 300 grand per year these days. A muffler shop hire will be lucky to afford the basic needs, mainly because people like Brief own them Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80319674 . 1000 a day minimum. Most trained mechanics get 50-80 dollars an hour WORKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE. If they work for themselves it can amount to 200 an hour easily. Same with a welder or a carpenter. A welder with his own equipment can contract out for half a million / year in some cases. On the other hand, a trained IT worker will be lucky to top 40 grand to start. Everyone wants to go into IT these days, or some job connected to it thinking it is the wave of the future. In the meantime their cars have to be fixed, their bridges built and their buildings constructed, and none of them have the skills to pour piss out of a leaky boot.. I have a degree in mechanical engineering and training in electrical engineering, but to be honest with you I made twice as much actually working with my hands AND my mind. And it's a lot more rewarding work. Nope Trained mechanics these days are topping out 100k in the dealership, thats having years of experience and certifications and doing warranty work. Working for a private guy you can expect maybe 20 an hour, maybe more after working for him several years. Its the overhead of a shop that drives up the cost of repairs. But heres the thing, people are too cheap today. They would rather drive their car into the ground and get a new one. yeah, working for someone else.... A smart mechanic doesnt work for someone else. Yea so you pay what 3k or more a month to rent a shop and then pray people come to you ? Seen many shops start and close in the first year due to lack of business. There are losers in every line of work, usually because they're not any good or dont have any fuckin brains. First of all, you dont RENT a shop, you build one, on your own fuckin land in a location that is not to hard to find or get to, and you pay off your debts as soon as you are able to financially even if you have to scrimp. This cuts down on INTEREST, which is often 30 percent of any kind of business development THEN, you actually work yourself. You are there in the shop ramrodding anyone you hire and doing the hardest and most profitable jobs YOURSELF, and you pay employees based on their ability TO MAKE YOU MONEY Mkay?. You dont have to be a certified public accountant to run a business either, you just need to know some old alcoholic who hates the government and is good with numbers |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80320372 India 05/05/2021 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nobody wants to work Quoting: CharlieFoxtrot he has work backed up the employees I saw were over 50 years old I am contemplating quitting my IT job and going to work in a muffler shop, at least my work will have some meaning. I take your IT job you American you find new job as day laborer while I work the cloud. Dumb Americans can't do IT work! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79343232 United States 05/05/2021 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nobody wants to work Quoting: CharlieFoxtrot he has work backed up the employees I saw were over 50 years old I am contemplating quitting my IT job and going to work in a muffler shop, at least my work will have some meaning. I heard that kind of work is exhausting... I saw 2 overweight old dudes getting it done. Did you feel the wind as that went over your head? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80319674 United States 05/05/2021 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14616612 my car was leaking exhaust from the engine compartment. I had a mechanic check it out and he said an exhaust manifold had a crack in it. The cost to fix it could easily be $1000 or more. I decided i would learn how to do it myself. I spent 100s of hours watching how-to videos. When i was ready, i open the hood to inspect the manifold and what i found shocked me! The manifold was missing nuts on two of the studs. I replaced the nuts and the leak was sealed. I suppose the mechanic who replaced my engine a couple of years earilier did not tighten them properly. The mechanic who checked it out was incompetent or a liar - maybe both. So you are damned right! Nobody repects a fcuking mechanic! They are low IQ liars and thieves! You spent hundreds of hours learning how to tighten two nuts and you call mechanics low IQ cretins? If you were REALLY smarter than they were you wouldn't have had a whole engine replaced because it had a bad MAF sensor Yes, there are dishonest mechanics, and they see a Mc Mansion type cubical class retard coming from a mile away in his fancy fucking crossover SUV. Most of them would never rip off a fellow working man, but there are exceptions to every rule. you must be a mechanic. You have no reading compehension skill. Uh huh. I am a mechanic among many other things. I can basically do anything, including your job, better than you can. I'm not the one who had an engine replaced and got ripped off by the guy that did it. YOU ARE. And I understood every word you wrote. I wonder if you did. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80319674 United States 05/05/2021 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nobody wants to work Quoting: CharlieFoxtrot he has work backed up the employees I saw were over 50 years old I am contemplating quitting my IT job and going to work in a muffler shop, at least my work will have some meaning. I heard that kind of work is exhausting... I saw 2 overweight old dudes getting it done. Did you feel the wind as that went over your head? I bet you twenty dollars he voted for Trump, twice |