Vitamin D: the best kept secret to immunity & THE silver bullet. Mega Doses used safely in studies (post 14)

Eggs and small oily fish (such as sardines) are probably best, for various reasons (high quality protein, high D content).

Right now I'm taking 3.800 IU.

Yeah, I bought 3.000 IU soft gels, but I still had some 800's.

When they are used, I'm gonna start taking 6.000 IU I think.

I didn't read the thread before posting but the fact another poster mentioned calcium is a positive thing.

It can't be stressed enough that your body is a complex biological machine. Just like a simple machine, say a car, it has requirements.

Now if you replaced or ladened the oil, water and petrol for your car with other chemicals, although it would run, it would be sluggish and break down sooner.

Though more complex we are no different.

In the face of something like covid. Hyper doses of Vitamin D are not going to do a huge amount. Its about the systems and chemicals working in synergy for the optimum working of your body machine that make the difference.

Thankfully the human body has lots of good filters and uses a broad spectrum of raw materials to gain the things it needs. But it does need those essentials. Your body can only create so much of what it need without the ingredient being added to it.

It was once believed the human body could not produce its own vitamin b. Today we have found those with a certain type of gut flora do create their own vitamin B.

Poo transplant anyone?

Eat well, do exercise, get fresh air and out in the sun. Indulge a little but don't over do it.

Opinions are like buttholes. Everyone has one.

Valid opinions are harder to come by. Not everybody has one. This 60 year old Pharmacist turned Functional Medicine Practitioner has one that matters.

7 Reasons Not to Take Vitamin K with D

each of the 7 reasons are expounded upon at length in the article at link below.

1. Vitamin K is beyond easy to get in your diet!
2. You manufacture K2 in your gut
3. It can cause excessive calcium (hypercalcemia)
4. Vitamin K supplements cause blood to thicken
5. My vitamin D isn’t a bone formula
6. You Only Need D to Raise Blood Levels of D, adding K1 or K2 doesn’t raise levels of D any faster
7. K deficiencies are extremely rare

PLUS A BONUS: How is the D measured? And how is K measured?

[link to suzycohen.com (secure)]

Last Edited by Augmentalist on 05/05/2021 10:16 AM

I take 12000ui when I feel I’m about to get sick, and the next day I feel 100%. Didn’t even catch the influenza in years!

lol in a typical lefty derpie fashion you turned the truth upside down it's now obvious what your agenda here is

what I said is not an opinion
I have lab results as proof you have bullshit you copy pasted and sprinkled some of your own

1. FAIL
Unless you ferment your stuff you get ZERO vitamin K2 in your mainstream grocery store or restaurant food ZERO

2. FAIL
what you manufacture in your gut is k2mk4 not 7
and for that to happen you have to have healthy gut with lots of good bacteria
One can of coca cola and POOF they're gone.
one taco bell mystery meat (soy) and POOF they're gone
etc

3. FAIL
this is the stupidest one yet
Excessive calcium is exactly impossible when k2mk7 is taken as it redirects all the calcium from soft tissues into the bones teeth etc
You have created an outrageous LIE
the exact opposite of your assertion is true

4. FAIL
Vitamin K2mk7 does not have anything to do whatsoever with blood thickening
only vitamin K1 improves coagulation
and things like apixaban/ elliquis diminish the K1
takes an extra LIAR to present it backwards like you

5. FAIL
irrelevant non-sequitur
nobody cares about your bullshit formula
especially after you demonstrated you're braindead with the first 4 points

6. FAIL
exactly wrong
taking D alone is very very slow in raising the 25OH level because your liver has to convert it
taking D2 is several times less effective in comparison to D3
vit K1 has nothing to do with any of this whatsoever as mentioned in point 4.

K2 mk7 MULTIPLIES conversion of D3 into 25 Hydroxy
and your levels go up several times faster

7. FAIL
vitamin K2mk7 deficiencies are common, widespread and alarming as virtually no unpasteurized naturally fermented (by anaerobic bacteria) foods are sold or made in households anymore hence the epidemic of D3 deficiency even by those spending time in the sun.

Skin makes D3 from Cholesterol so if you sheepishly lower your cholesterol with evil pharma drugs your skin has nothing to make d3 from

high fructose corn syrup greatly reduces 25oh levels as well


8.FAIL

suzy cohen america's most trusted pharmacist is just as stupid
it's a mystery whether she got her disinfo from you or whether you got the disinfo from her
it's the same stupidity never the less

you found some website read the bullshit and now you go around spreading it

everything you read at that link is WRONG

you lose shill

you're a pathetic liar or misinformed moran with opinion derived from a lying pharmacist

"mega doses" are a bad idea unless you have been diagnosed with low vitamin D.

On the other hand, a healthy dose of vitamin D3 daily is a VERY good idea. 4000iu - 8000iu should be the range you're looking at. You probably shouldn't go over that for any length of time unless you have actually been diagnosed.

op is a paid shill or a cretin

make sure you understand the minefield you're stepping into

Don't mega dose the Vitamin D without the magnesium. Lest you get some painful calcium kidney stones. Let me tell you they hurt. So take magnesium with the Vitamin D.

I'm glad I've been getting to do my paint work outside lately. For the past month, at least 2-3 days a week I've been working outside for a good portion of the day.

Today I just got done painting outside all day long. I was in the sun starting at 10am. It felt nice wearing a tank top and flip flops. Then later into the evening I changed into socks and shoes and put on a hoodie and , until the sun started setting and I was still painting in shaded areas and my fingers started to get chilled to the bone.

Vitamin D has been on my mind a lot lately, especially after seeing it in the suppressed covid info, etc.

magnesium is helpful but by far not a main factor

the most important is vitamin K2mk7

taking D3 (even in mega doses) with enough K2mk7 makes kidney stones or any other calcium deposits in sof tissue IMPOSSIBLE

D3 always with K2mk7 !

and no so called "toxicity" can occur

I should have been more careful to read what your recommendation was, it was late at night. You were only recommending mk-7.

I agree that it is a good idea to supp with mk-7 when taking high dose D3. It can't hurt, and could only help.

You are wrong in that ALL the menaquinones are produced by gut bacteria, not just #4. Although some people have bodies don't transport them easily from the gut into the bloodstream depending on condition of the health of the cilia. So again, MK-7 supplementation can't hurt.

your answer to #6 was wrong. Conversion of D3 to 25(OH)D3 is always done via the liver after the D3 leaves the digestive tract and the presence of k2-mk7 has nothing to do with that. From there, 25(OH)D3 converts in the kidney to the metabolite 1,25-(OH)2-D3 which mobilizes Calcium BUT the kidney only initiates this further hyroxylation if the body signals a need for more calcium. Only then does that 1,25-(OH)2-D3 circulate back to the digestive tract to mobilize calcium.

So, there is some fearmongering to say that all one's dietary calcium is going to wind up in conglomerating in the endothelium and soft tissues just because one increases their Vitamin D by high dose for a short period without enough mk-7 present.

Unless a person has compromised renal function, the kidneys know how much Calcium the body needs and will flush out what is not necessary.

Low dose vitamin D studies have shown correlation with increased kidney stone risk, while some high dose studies did not. So there is much more going on, which is why all supplementation should be done under the close watch of a competent healthcare provider.

FYI, Kidney stones are quite easy to deal with and even prevent using prophylactic means, so there is NO reason to compromise and reject a life-saving high dose vitamin D treatment with that as an excuse.

In addition, atherosclerotic lesions do not form simply from excess Calcium. That calcium must conglomerate with oxidized Linoleic acid and white blood cells mobilized by the inflammation caused by inflammatory prostaglandins triggered by Omega 6 fatty acids.

So there is another way to avoid "calcemia" without worrying about K2mk-7 being a make or break factor.

lol
the opie shil does an about face and fllps a 180 again

you have no credibility now

go away you don't know what you're talking about

you've been exposed

moran!

Well... there are those who go on the internet not to inform, but to wage their wars.... lol

For HBP, nothing beats Vit. C imo.

I do take a good amount of Vit. D but if I go a week without it, I don't really notice a difference. That's not the case with Vit. C.

I also find garlic helps with arthritis more than anything else I take.

What about vitamin d increasing artery calcification?

Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) is another gold nugget one should include in their daily health regimen !

approx. 6,000 IUs per day during the winter months.......along with Vitamin K2 and Magnesium Glycinate (or mag L-Threonate)


During the summer..........30 minutes or so with your shirt off in the sun.......no sunscreen allowed during that period of time.

That is why you need to take Vitamin K2 with it.

This! I never take D3 without K2mk7!