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The CREATION and ENSLAVEMENT of HUMANITY | The SECRET Gospel of John (Gnosticism)

 
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"Behind your thoughts and feelings,
there stands a mighty ruler.
An unknown sage – whose name is Self."

— Nietzsche

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Looked that book up for the umpteenth time an hour ago.

I don't believe in archons as evil gremlins. "He" shared that they represent human behaviors that caused humanity to fall into our current state.

Humans sure do need their boogeymen. It's easier to blame something outside of themselves than to take responsibility for their own behavior.
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Looked that book up for the umpteenth time an hour ago.

I don't believe in archons as evil gremlins. "He" shared that they represent human behaviors that caused humanity to fall into our current state.

Humans sure do need their boogeymen. It's easier to blame something outside of themselves than to take responsibility for their own behavior.
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"Behind your thoughts and feelings,
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An unknown sage – whose name is Self."

— Nietzsche

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Gnosticism is a lie and that's not at all what the Gospel of John is. But you surely know that and are just trying to schill for Satan and prep people to be fooled by the " alien " Antichrist.

Secondly , that video is automatically refuted due to lack of eyebrows.
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Don't go towards the light, jus sayin
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Gnosticism is a lie and that's not at all what the Gospel of John is. But you surely know that and are just trying to schill for Satan and prep people to be fooled by the " alien " Antichrist.

Secondly , that video is automatically refuted due to lack of eyebrows.
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I am the devil after all..it is my job to plant doubt in you ....perhaps for deception, perhaps for truth ..

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"Behind your thoughts and feelings,
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An unknown sage – whose name is Self."

— Nietzsche

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Don't go towards the light, jus sayin
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Yep that is truth ...

"Behind your thoughts and feelings,
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An unknown sage – whose name is Self."

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Don't go towards the light, jus sayin
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Yep that is truth ...

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A man that chooses being in the dark for fear of himself is wise, he then carries the light.

A man that chooses being in the light out of ignorance of himself will perish, the light will absolve him.
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There is your reincarnation trap.
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"Behind your thoughts and feelings,
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— Nietzsche

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Looked that book up for the umpteenth time an hour ago.

I don't believe in archons as evil gremlins. "He" shared that they represent human behaviors that caused humanity to fall into our current state.

Humans sure do need their boogeymen. It's easier to blame something outside of themselves than to take responsibility for their own behavior.
 Quoting: Esther Wright


Then why did Jesus tell his followers to reject them when they told you that you had to reincarnate?

Why it is every time they say, you have to reincarnate again because you made more mistake in this lifetime you need to account for.

They say the same thing everything. Great Deceivers. If their way was correct why do people have to keep reincarnating?

Humans were created by them, the Body, as recorded in the Nag Hammadi in several books. They were trying to Trap the Spirit of God in a vessel they controlled so they could try and obtain power over him/her.

God tricked them into doing it if you read it right. Told the Humans would be their downfall and would take over their creation and kick them out of it. (part of my current task)

God appeared before than in the form of a man (or women it was implied. You make a man to attract a women so they made Adam.) They intended to defile humans and therefore God to try and obtain power over God.

In reality God tricked them. Played them for suckers.

In their reality we dwell under their Rules. Embrace your Spirit, the spark of God and you can defy them at will.

They only have what power over you that you give them. So all they do is tell stories you want to believe. Tricking people in incarnating over and over for no good reason and lots of bad reasons.

Now is the point in time we flip the tables on them. But too many people have been sucked into thinking the archons and their servants are their friends.

They are The Agent Smiths of the world. When you sell your soul you are selling to them because they control the reality.

They will give you what you want, if you bow down and Obey them.

They are good deceivers. Ask them what God they serve. Ask them why God is is capable of guiding every human being at once needs them to do anything and why Jesus taught his followers to reject them.
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Gnosticism is a lie and that's not at all what the Gospel of John is. But you surely know that and are just trying to schill for Satan and prep people to be fooled by the " alien " Antichrist.

Secondly , that video is automatically refuted due to lack of eyebrows.
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Gnosticism is not a lie. My Cathars were burned at the stake by the antichrist Catholic "church". True gnostics believe that the world is evil and the last thing you want is to be reincarnated here.

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usurping a word only adds to confusion ... gnosticism is... knowledge... of them tools you be usin.

definitions are like cubes... they look nice on the surface... but at the end of the day ... they're just boxes.

boxes are nice for containing things.

What are you attempting to contain?
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oh wow, yeah i'm gonna watch that for an HOUR, ridiculous
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usurping a word only adds to confusion ... gnosticism is... knowledge... of them tools you be usin.

definitions are like cubes... they look nice on the surface... but at the end of the day ... they're just boxes.

boxes are nice for containing things.

What are you attempting to contain?
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many aren't ready to pass the gate so they keep them here in an un-evolved state

the true enlightened figured out the rainbow bridge, enlightenment, nirvana, heaven, etc...

they walk up the enlightenment staircase while they keep the TRUTH from you

little do they know they get to wait there for us to finish
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it is very simple

pleasure (non sexual) , success, achievement of one's goals makes one enjoy, desire to be part of this reality.

that results in sexual development. this is a philosphy which coordinates and meshes perfectly with what we objectively observe in nature, in truth. unlike most other fake philosophies which are nothing more than attempted escape from truth and reality.

i can help you understand it all, and that understanding in and of itself can give you life, an abundance of life energy, more than money or domination or achievement can, understanding the grand design is a sense of fullfillment unlike anything you can buy or any excitement you can experience because it is a tremendous sense of relief, it is a psychic kind of relief, akin to resolution of a intense yearning that brings healing and ILLUMINATION of the body and soul.
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"Behind your thoughts and feelings,
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it is very simple

pleasure (non sexual) , success, achievement of one's goals makes one enjoy, desire to be part of this reality.

that results in sexual development. this is a philosphy which coordinates and meshes perfectly with what we objectively observe in nature, in truth. unlike most other fake philosophies which are nothing more than attempted escape from truth and reality.

i can help you understand it all, and that understanding in and of itself can give you life, an abundance of life energy, more than money or domination or achievement can, understanding the grand design is a sense of fullfillment unlike anything you can buy or any excitement you can experience because it is a tremendous sense of relief, it is a psychic kind of relief, akin to resolution of a intense yearning that brings healing and ILLUMINATION of the body and soul.
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the reason everyone is such a psycho about getting their way, is because one is mindlessly agitated to achieve one's goals. even adults are still for the most part petulant children, when they become adults many of them learn they can't have what they want, but some people with money actually CAN have everything that they want and desire so that learning to deal with frustration of one's unformed intents is not necessarily universal psychology
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Gnosticism is a lie and that's not at all what the Gospel of John is. But you surely know that and are just trying to schill for Satan and prep people to be fooled by the " alien " Antichrist.

Secondly , that video is automatically refuted due to lack of eyebrows.
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Gnosticism is not a lie. My Cathars were burned at the stake by the antichrist Catholic "church". True gnostics believe that the world is evil and the last thing you want is to be reincarnated here.


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Reincarnation is a lie too , thank you for proving the point. Anyone who thinks they are a reincarnation has either been deceived by false spirits who showed them a dream or vision which they wrongly interpreted as their previous life.

This world is indeed run by the devil , for now , as is written.

Why would anyone want to be reincarnated anywhere in the universe though , when they have the chance to make it to eternal paradise and the Heavenly Kingdom?

That is unless they simply love creation more than God , like most Gnostics.

And while I don't agree with burning at the stake, Gnostics deny the resurrection and true power of God while trying to put Him in a box and 'within' , which is very misleading and limiting.
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Gen 1:26
And God (H430 elohim Plural of H433 eloah, angels of the supreme God)
said, Let us make man in our image (H6754 tselem, phantom, illusion, idol),
after our likeness (H1823 demuth, similitude, to assimilate):
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Psa 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods (H430 elohim Plural of H433 eloah, angels of the supreme God); and all of you are children of the most High.

John 10:34
Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said “Ye are gods”’?
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So when you say... "prove your eternal"...

proof is a vague concept?

and eternity is 5 minutes?
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we see the world as evil because our we are struggling.

why are there these other people, these other creatures who are against us? why do they oppose us?? what is THAT all about??

we are constantly at war with eachother, most of our 'socializing'is to achieve power.

so what is this power dynamic and why is it the primary agency of creation?

why must we suffer? why can't we just have what we want?

why do others enjoy our suffering so much?
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it is very simple

pleasure (non sexual) , success, achievement of one's goals makes one enjoy, desire to be part of this reality.

that results in sexual development. this is a philosphy which coordinates and meshes perfectly with what we objectively observe in nature, in truth. unlike most other fake philosophies which are nothing more than attempted escape from truth and reality.

i can help you understand it all, and that understanding in and of itself can give you life, an abundance of life energy, more than money or domination or achievement can, understanding the grand design is a sense of fullfillment unlike anything you can buy or any excitement you can experience because it is a tremendous sense of relief, it is a psychic kind of relief, akin to resolution of a intense yearning that brings healing and ILLUMINATION of the body and soul.
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enjoyment is certainly what we would like to achieve but there is a path to enlightenment we must encourage and it isn't always enjoyable, but necessary...i suppose to the truly ascended just doing your duty would be enjoyment among many feelings simultaneously

it will be another trip around for most of them. I don't plan on staying for next time so I'm certainly going to finish up. I might just make it in time if i keep at it
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Gnosticism is a lie and that's not at all what the Gospel of John is. But you surely know that and are just trying to schill for Satan and prep people to be fooled by the " alien " Antichrist.

Secondly , that video is automatically refuted due to lack of eyebrows.
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Gnosticism is not a lie. My Cathars were burned at the stake by the antichrist Catholic "church". True gnostics believe that the world is evil and the last thing you want is to be reincarnated here.


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Reincarnation is a lie too , thank you for proving the point. Anyone who thinks they are a reincarnation has either been deceived by false spirits who showed them a dream or vision which they wrongly interpreted as their previous life.

This world is indeed run by the devil , for now , as is written.

Why would anyone want to be reincarnated anywhere in the universe though , when they have the chance to make it to eternal paradise and the Heavenly Kingdom?

That is unless they simply love creation more than God , like most Gnostics.

And while I don't agree with burning at the stake, Gnostics deny the resurrection and true power of God while trying to put Him in a box and 'within' , which is very misleading and limiting.
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Reincarnation is misleading because its supposed to be. Like others have said, this knowledge was buried and people were murdered over it.
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we see the world as evil because our we are struggling.

why are there these other people, these other creatures who are against us? why do they oppose us?? what is THAT all about??

we are constantly at war with eachother, most of our 'socializing'is to achieve power.

so what is this power dynamic and why is it the primary agency of creation?

why must we suffer? why can't we just have what we want?

why do others enjoy our suffering so much?
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Your greatest joy will be equal to your greatest pain.

Contrast is necessary for discernment.

discernment is necessary for choice.

choice is necessary for life.

Life is necessary for You.

You are necessary for what?
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Looked that book up for the umpteenth time an hour ago.

I don't believe in archons as evil gremlins. "He" shared that they represent human behaviors that caused humanity to fall into our current state.

Humans sure do need their boogeymen. It's easier to blame something outside of themselves than to take responsibility for their own behavior.
 Quoting: Esther Wright


Then why did Jesus tell his followers to reject them when they told you that you had to reincarnate?

Why it is every time they say, you have to reincarnate again because you made more mistake in this lifetime you need to account for.

They say the same thing everything. Great Deceivers. If their way was correct why do people have to keep reincarnating?

Humans were created by them, the Body, as recorded in the Nag Hammadi in several books. They were trying to Trap the Spirit of God in a vessel they controlled so they could try and obtain power over him/her.

God tricked them into doing it if you read it right. Told the Humans would be their downfall and would take over their creation and kick them out of it. (part of my current task)

God appeared before than in the form of a man (or women it was implied. You make a man to attract a women so they made Adam.) They intended to defile humans and therefore God to try and obtain power over God.

In reality God tricked them. Played them for suckers.

In their reality we dwell under their Rules. Embrace your Spirit, the spark of God and you can defy them at will.

They only have what power over you that you give them. So all they do is tell stories you want to believe. Tricking people in incarnating over and over for no good reason and lots of bad reasons.

Now is the point in time we flip the tables on them. But too many people have been sucked into thinking the archons and their servants are their friends.

They are The Agent Smiths of the world. When you sell your soul you are selling to them because they control the reality.

They will give you what you want, if you bow down and Obey them.

They are good deceivers. Ask them what God they serve. Ask them why God is is capable of guiding every human being at once needs them to do anything and why Jesus taught his followers to reject them.
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Used to believe as you until he showed me otherwise.

Thoughts forms, entities which humans created, only have power if we keep believing in them.

Reincarnation is a choice. We choose to incarnate as expressions of creator because matter is the only way for creator to experience this sensory level.

Those scrolls were written decades to centuries after he lived in physical body. Meaning lost through oral teachings not written down at first, just like the Bible. Hidden meanings in parables was his way. Portraying human nature through creatures. He was saying reject those behaviors. Do not be like those who act like that.

Reality is controlled by the collective. You can leave at the end of your life. Simple as saying at any point from now until then that you don't want to come back.
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we see the world as evil because our we are struggling.

why are there these other people, these other creatures who are against us? why do they oppose us?? what is THAT all about??

we are constantly at war with eachother, most of our 'socializing'is to achieve power.

so what is this power dynamic and why is it the primary agency of creation?

why must we suffer? why can't we just have what we want?

why do others enjoy our suffering so much?
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Your greatest joy will be equal to your greatest pain.

Contrast is necessary for discernment.

discernment is necessary for choice.

choice is necessary for life.

Life is necessary for You.

You are necessary for what?
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lots of living things suffer their whole lives and there's not much pleasure or fun. all living things reject death, pain suffering. all living things are drawn to success, effortlessness, pleasure vibe.

if you are 'genetically' defective , the universe will hate you and persecute you, all people will humiliate you and want you to go away and die or even torment you if you refuse to kill yourself.

the God of this world takes much greater pleasure in tormenting you than killing you
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Looked that book up for the umpteenth time an hour ago.

I don't believe in archons as evil gremlins. "He" shared that they represent human behaviors that caused humanity to fall into our current state.

Humans sure do need their boogeymen. It's easier to blame something outside of themselves than to take responsibility for their own behavior.
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Then why did Jesus tell his followers to reject them when they told you that you had to reincarnate?

Why it is every time they say, you have to reincarnate again because you made more mistake in this lifetime you need to account for.

They say the same thing everything. Great Deceivers. If their way was correct why do people have to keep reincarnating?

Humans were created by them, the Body, as recorded in the Nag Hammadi in several books. They were trying to Trap the Spirit of God in a vessel they controlled so they could try and obtain power over him/her.

God tricked them into doing it if you read it right. Told the Humans would be their downfall and would take over their creation and kick them out of it. (part of my current task)

God appeared before than in the form of a man (or women it was implied. You make a man to attract a women so they made Adam.) They intended to defile humans and therefore God to try and obtain power over God.

In reality God tricked them. Played them for suckers.

In their reality we dwell under their Rules. Embrace your Spirit, the spark of God and you can defy them at will.

They only have what power over you that you give them. So all they do is tell stories you want to believe. Tricking people in incarnating over and over for no good reason and lots of bad reasons.

Now is the point in time we flip the tables on them. But too many people have been sucked into thinking the archons and their servants are their friends.

They are The Agent Smiths of the world. When you sell your soul you are selling to them because they control the reality.

They will give you what you want, if you bow down and Obey them.

They are good deceivers. Ask them what God they serve. Ask them why God is is capable of guiding every human being at once needs them to do anything and why Jesus taught his followers to reject them.
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Used to believe as you until he showed me otherwise.

Thoughts forms, entities which humans created, only have power if we keep believing in them.

Reincarnation is a choice. We choose to incarnate as expressions of creator because matter is the only way for creator to experience this sensory level.

Those scrolls were written decades to centuries after he lived in physical body. Meaning lost through oral teachings not written down at first, just like the Bible. Hidden meanings in parables was his way. Portraying human nature through creatures. He was saying reject those behaviors. Do not be like those who act like that.

Reality is controlled by the collective. You can leave at the end of your life. Simple as saying at any point from now until then that you don't want to come back.
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Very Nice. this^

Thank You Esther.
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reincarnation occurs through sex. only living things that have sufficient quantity of life force , achieve sustainable happiness, to where life is worth living.

if a living thing does not have sufficient chi, it will generally be killed and eaten, either metaphysically or physically.

the real question is , how does Chi manifest? where does it come from? I know, we are taught the boring stupid science of physiology, testosterone, hormones, thyroid,insulin but the organizing intelligence that co-ordinates and carries out all those processes through concentrated effort.. and memory. where does THAT come from? that is the science of demons, how they control our reality. They of course will NEVER teach you those things, that's why they maintain such an iron grip over the medical field of knowledge, the medical field holds the key to understanding not only health, healing but our own magical powers.
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the ultimate question is, where did these gods come from?

we are so obsessed with the idea of where man came from. the theory of evolution, or the creation story but what is far more concerning is where did the gods come from that rule over our planet?

how did humans, evolve from apes, and then evolve into gods? by what mechanism?

well I'll never get to tell you that obviously. they wouldn't want you to know that for fairly obvious fucking reasons.

the world is full of legends of demi gods who felt pity for humans and tried to tell mortals what they are, why they are here and were horribly punished by the gods for it, as I was.

Even Jesus was yet another one of these Prometheus figures, and it's not just western mythologies, it's the same thing in EAstern legends, of China and Buddhism






GLP