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Hebrews 12:2 Embellishes Jesus as "Author" - Yet the Plan for Salvation is Father God's - Bible Study

 
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Jesus is 100% Man and 100% God.

That is the nature of Messiah.
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The Messiah's nature is GOD, he isn't an eternal "half man half god".

This is why no one believes in Jesus. Because of people like you.
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If He is not Man, then He cannot pay the price for your sins as a kinsmen Redeemer.


This is a critical part of Redemption that you miss.
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You're missing an even more critical part: only God can save you.
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He MUST be human in order to be our kinsmen Redeemer.

As a human, He was sinless ... unlike us.

This qualified Him to be our Savior.
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Messiah was to be Divine (God), as foretold in the Old Testament.
He was also born miraculously to a virgin as a MAN.

The MAN Christ Jesus is Messiah AND is God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


Nope. He isn't a man anymore.
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Nowhere in scripture does He lay down His humanity.

That is a figment of your imagination.

He Bridges the gap between God and Man ... for He is both.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


2 Cor 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

1 Cor 15:50
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
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You're missing an even more critical part: only God can save you.
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No one is missing that.

That is the Point.

He did it.

Done.

Paid in full.

TETELESTAI.

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Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing."
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He said that right before He ascended.
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Yet He was STILL human and had a body.

He ascended BODILY to Heaven.
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The Messiah's nature is GOD, he isn't an eternal "half man half god".

This is why no one believes in Jesus. Because of people like you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



If He is not Man, then He cannot pay the price for your sins as a kinsmen Redeemer.


This is a critical part of Redemption that you miss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


You're missing an even more critical part: only God can save you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



He MUST be human in order to be our kinsmen Redeemer.

As a human, He was sinless ... unlike us.

This qualified Him to be our Savior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


naughty

Isaiah 41:14
Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.

Hosea 11:9
I will not carry out my fierce anger,
nor will I devastate Ephraim again.
For I am God, and not a man
the Holy One among you
.
I will not come against their cities.
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2 Cor 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

1 Cor 15:50
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


After His Ascension, He was transformed.

As we will be.

Do you not understand this?


So, you die and get Resurrected in your new immortal glorified body like His

OR

A MYSTERY

Behold!


Some will be transformed in an instant...


.
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Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83777731


He said that right before He ascended.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



Yet He was STILL human and had a body.

He ascended BODILY to Heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


1 Cor 15:50
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
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2 Cor 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

1 Cor 15:50
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


After His Ascension, He was transformed.

As we will be.
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I agree. He transformed from a man back to God.

Amen.
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Messiah was to be Divine (God), as foretold in the Old Testament.
He was also born miraculously to a virgin as a MAN.

The MAN Christ Jesus is Messiah AND is God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


Nope. He isn't a man anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



Nowhere in scripture does He lay down His humanity.

That is a figment of your imagination.

He Bridges the gap between God and Man ... for He is both.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


2 Cor 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

1 Cor 15:50
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



You just misinterpreted both of these verses.

Typical of the cults.

We know Christ no more after the flesh because He is now in Heaven.
ie- We can't go knock on His Door and have tea and a chat with Him. because He ascended BODILY to heaven.

Because Jesus is sinless, He is Imperishable.

This verse has to do with us .. the perishable.

Poor Bible skills attributable to someone who does not possess the Holy Spirit. Unregenerate and dead in your sins.
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And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth.


Revelation 5:6
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Nope. He isn't a man anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



Nowhere in scripture does He lay down His humanity.

That is a figment of your imagination.

He Bridges the gap between God and Man ... for He is both.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


2 Cor 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

1 Cor 15:50
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



You just misinterpreted both of these verses.

Typical of the cults.

We know Christ no more after the flesh because He is now in Heaven.
ie- We can't go knock on His Door and have tea and a chat with Him. because He ascended BODILY to heaven.

Because Jesus is sinless, He is Imperishable.

This verse has to do with us .. the perishable.

Poor Bible skills attributable to someone who does not possess the Holy Spirit. Unregenerate and dead in your sins.
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It appears we have reached the end of our discussion then.
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And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders,
stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth.



Revelation 5:6
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And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth.


Revelation 5:6
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Oooh
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2 Cor 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

1 Cor 15:50
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


After His Ascension, He was transformed.

As we will be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83777731


I agree. He transformed from a man back to God.

Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



A man cannot become God.

That is Mormonism.

Jesus has ALWAYS been God.
He was only a man ON EARTH for 33 years.
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Nowhere in scripture does He lay down His humanity.

That is a figment of your imagination.

He Bridges the gap between God and Man ... for He is both.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


2 Cor 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

1 Cor 15:50
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



You just misinterpreted both of these verses.

Typical of the cults.

We know Christ no more after the flesh because He is now in Heaven.
ie- We can't go knock on His Door and have tea and a chat with Him. because He ascended BODILY to heaven.

Because Jesus is sinless, He is Imperishable.

This verse has to do with us .. the perishable.

Poor Bible skills attributable to someone who does not possess the Holy Spirit. Unregenerate and dead in your sins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


It appears we have reached the end of our discussion then.
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Yay!

5a


No more deception from you!
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2 Cor 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

1 Cor 15:50
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


After His Ascension, He was transformed.

As we will be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83777731


I agree. He transformed from a man back to God.

Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



A man cannot become God.

That is Mormonism.

Jesus has ALWAYS been God.
He was only a man ON EARTH for 33 years.
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I don't even believe Jesus is a man. Cool your jets eddy.
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Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83777731


He said that right before He ascended.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



Yet He was STILL human and had a body.

He ascended BODILY to Heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


1 Cor 15:50
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


Luke 17:21 explains why

20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the
kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The
kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for,
behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Surfs up John 8:32
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And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth.


Revelation 5:6
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Oooh
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Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.

You missed that eh???
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What do you want in eternity in God's Paradise Kingdom?
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After His Ascension, He was transformed.

As we will be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83777731


I agree. He transformed from a man back to God.

Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



A man cannot become God.

That is Mormonism.

Jesus has ALWAYS been God.
He was only a man ON EARTH for 33 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


I don't even believe Jesus is a man. Cool your jets eddy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



You claimed a few posts back that He is a man,

And that a man can become God.

That is satanism ... from the garden of Eden.

Go pound sand on your fake planet Kolob, mormon.
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bump for SotL

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2 Cor 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

1 Cor 15:50
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


After His Ascension, He was transformed.

As we will be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83777731


I agree. He transformed from a man back to God.

Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



No, a man cannot become/transform into a god.

That is Mormonism, a pseudo-Christian cult.
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I agree. He transformed from a man back to God.

Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



A man cannot become God.

That is Mormonism.

Jesus has ALWAYS been God.
He was only a man ON EARTH for 33 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


I don't even believe Jesus is a man. Cool your jets eddy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



You claimed a few posts back that He is a man,

And that a man can become God.

That is satanism ... from the garden of Eden.

Go pound sand on your fake planet Kolob, mormon.
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Brain dead moron.. I've been arguing that Jesus ISN'T a man for 3 pages.
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2 Cor 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

1 Cor 15:50
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


After His Ascension, He was transformed.

As we will be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83777731


I agree. He transformed from a man back to God.

Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



No, a man cannot become/transform into a god.

That is Mormonism, a pseudo-Christian cult.
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I agree a man cannot become God but God can become a man and then become God again.
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bump for SotL

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He's watching but not posting.
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bump for SotL

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There's another jackoff cultist whose ass I've kicked numerous times with Holy Scripture.

He does not believe that Jesus is God.
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After His Ascension, He was transformed.

As we will be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83777731


I agree. He transformed from a man back to God.

Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



No, a man cannot become/transform into a god.

That is Mormonism, a pseudo-Christian cult.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


I agree a man cannot become God but God can become a man and then become God again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



I'll let you in on a big secret ... He was ALWAYS God.
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I agree. He transformed from a man back to God.

Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



No, a man cannot become/transform into a god.

That is Mormonism, a pseudo-Christian cult.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


I agree a man cannot become God but God can become a man and then become God again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



I'll let you in on a big secret ... He was ALWAYS God.
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Exactly. Always God. Not man.
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And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth.


Revelation 5:6
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Oooh
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Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.

You missed that eh???
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Is God a lamb now not a man? Make up your dang mind.
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A man cannot become God.

That is Mormonism.

Jesus has ALWAYS been God.
He was only a man ON EARTH for 33 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


I don't even believe Jesus is a man. Cool your jets eddy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



You claimed a few posts back that He is a man,

And that a man can become God.

That is satanism ... from the garden of Eden.

Go pound sand on your fake planet Kolob, mormon.
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Brain dead moron.. I've been arguing that Jesus ISN'T a man for 3 pages.
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Listen jackoff ... you said Jesus was a man who became God.

Bullshit cultist.

Jesus was ALWAYS God .. who became the perfect man for our salvation.

He is now BODILY in Heaven, seated at the right hand of the Throne.





GLP