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I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?

 
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I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
I am frankly mystified because this psychiatrist is a very intelligent man who clearly knows what it means to be delusional, and I will quote him directly to prove the point.

This is what he says about my ability to understand and appreciate "evidence".

"I think he would have trouble being able to in a reasonable and rational manner deal with these issues. The best analogy I can make is that - to someone who has delusions, is that they're wearing - they have on coloured glasses but they don't know the glasses are on and they see things differently, a different colour. Say the glasses are green, so they see things as green, but not being aware that something is altering their perception, they therefore believe it's green, and you're not going to be able to persuade them that it's anything else, because that is what they believe they see and this is what they - their perception, they're not aware that something is interfering with it."

That synopsis appears to be true of most people but I am a researcher who investigates and exposes bias and am therefore immune to being influenced by "coloured glasses". Fact-driven conclusions are based on evidence, not coloured glasses.

Needless to say, the diagnosis that I am delusional is consequently perplexing, and I suspect that the psychiatrist in question is clearly aware of that fact because he further indicates as follows; "He can understand. There's nothing wrong with his input, it's the processing that's kind of skeweed, and that's where the problem lies...so yes, he could understand that evidence is such, but he would not be able to weigh it the way a rational person would be able to consider it and to give - to come to some conclusion as to its credibility. A person who is deluded cannot change their beliefs."

What a clever con artist. On the one hand, he claims I am as delusional as most people are and on the other, he claims that I am too delusional to understand that I am delusional.

Have I missed anything?
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
What is the specific delusion?
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
May I ask as to why you started to see this doctor? Do you have medical/psychological history or diagnosis?
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
Consider his viewpoint.

Also, this forum is not a valid venue to use to deconstruct the therapy you are paying this guy for.

If your position was easy, you would not have the conflicts that plague you.

Give him a shot. If not, consider his viewpoint as a starting place.
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
May I ask as to why you started to see this doctor? Do you have medical/psychological history or diagnosis?
 Quoting: Missy918


It's in the context of civil litigation. He is a hired gun who was successfully used to appoint a legal guardian for the purpose of derailing a jury trial.

There is no doctor/patient relationship with this hired gun.
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
Consider his viewpoint.

Also, this forum is not a valid venue to use to deconstruct the therapy you are paying this guy for.

If your position was easy, you would not have the conflicts that plague you.

Give him a shot. If not, consider his viewpoint as a starting place.
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Where the fuck did you get the impression that I am "plagued"?

I am certainly disturbed by bastards who manipulate the judicial process, but that's not something that should plague me, is it?
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
What is the specific delusion?
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You would have to be delusional to have a specific delusion.
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
Doc Sounds like doublespeak to me.
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
Consider his viewpoint.

Also, this forum is not a valid venue to use to deconstruct the therapy you are paying this guy for.

If your position was easy, you would not have the conflicts that plague you.

Give him a shot. If not, consider his viewpoint as a starting place.
 Quoting: Swamprat


Where the fuck did you get the impression that I am "plagued"?

I am certainly disturbed by bastards who manipulate the judicial process, but that's not something that should plague me, is it?
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Delusion is like denial.
In stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance.

So if your situation that brought you to the psych is domestic violence (for instance) and you are forgiving your assailant then you are in denial or delusional.

In this stage you will blame others for the assailants actions, casting blame on the judicial process or other bastards and anyone except the assailant.

Hope this makes sense.
Then next step is to be angry at the assailant for the pain and suffering you are in. And it's ok to be angry, you need to be angry. This is part of the process to recovery.

Next you will make excuses for the assailant and yourself and this is a sign that you are recovering.

If your psych isn't asking the right questions you have to ask him better questions, and not be angry at him, but the process.
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
Warning, usually these "delusions" come from childhood trauma. This trauma happens when our young emotions are developing and we learn to hide our thoughts in a deep dark place and never let them out.

EVERYONE does this. Watch the movie Inside Out and it explains the normal human mind and trauma and emotion.

Delusions are a defense mechanism, we all use defense mechanisms, but when they become overpowering or not being used in regulation then we become a little psychotic and inhibit us from living healthy and happy lives.

So psychaitrist is there to help you discover you, deep inside you brain. It's a cool journey if you are brave enough to take it.

Also if you are in physical danger from a parent, sibling, neighbor, uncle, stranger then you need to tell someone. Even if this person has threatened your safety. Another person making you keep a deep dark secret is not a healthy relationship and criminal in many cases. Use your resources to get help.
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
May I ask as to why you started to see this doctor? Do you have medical/psychological history or diagnosis?
 Quoting: Missy918


It's in the context of civil litigation. He is a hired gun who was successfully used to appoint a legal guardian for the purpose of derailing a jury trial.

There is no doctor/patient relationship with this hired gun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80084708


Well, perhaps his monetary compensation for his "opinion" was what was purchased as you say he is a "hired gun". Since its a civil litigation, the party who hired him for his opinion will want it skewed to THEIR viewpoit and position. Your recourse- hire your own gun to give your position a perspective from your side. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Regarding view points and colored glasses- we are all unique and see things differently. It doesn't necessarily mean its wrong. Its a viewpoint.
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
Doc Sounds like doublespeak to me.
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I agree.
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
Psychiatry is not a real Science.
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
May I ask as to why you started to see this doctor? Do you have medical/psychological history or diagnosis?
 Quoting: Missy918


It's in the context of civil litigation. He is a hired gun who was successfully used to appoint a legal guardian for the purpose of derailing a jury trial.

There is no doctor/patient relationship with this hired gun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80084708


Well, perhaps his monetary compensation for his "opinion" was what was purchased as you say he is a "hired gun". Since its a civil litigation, the party who hired him for his opinion will want it skewed to THEIR viewpoit and position. Your recourse- hire your own gun to give your position a perspective from your side. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Regarding view points and colored glasses- we are all unique and see things differently. It doesn't necessarily mean its wrong. Its a viewpoint.
 Quoting: Missy918


That's right Missy, we are all entitled to our opinion. The problem is when people seek to impose theirs on others.

For example, I have the right to believe in God whether he exists or not.

Hired guns are delusional because they think they have the power to prove anything, including the preposterous claim that murder is a pre-existing medical condition.
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
Consider his viewpoint.

Also, this forum is not a valid venue to use to deconstruct the therapy you are paying this guy for.

If your position was easy, you would not have the conflicts that plague you.

Give him a shot. If not, consider his viewpoint as a starting place.
 Quoting: Swamprat


Where the fuck did you get the impression that I am "plagued"?

I am certainly disturbed by bastards who manipulate the judicial process, but that's not something that should plague me, is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80084708


Delusion is like denial.
In stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance.

So if your situation that brought you to the psych is domestic violence (for instance) and you are forgiving your assailant then you are in denial or delusional.

In this stage you will blame others for the assailants actions, casting blame on the judicial process or other bastards and anyone except the assailant.

Hope this makes sense.
Then next step is to be angry at the assailant for the pain and suffering you are in. And it's ok to be angry, you need to be angry. This is part of the process to recovery.

Next you will make excuses for the assailant and yourself and this is a sign that you are recovering.

If your psych isn't asking the right questions you have to ask him better questions, and not be angry at him, but the process.
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Actual delusion is mental illness honey, wtf are you talking about?
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Psychiatry is not a real Science.
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It can be real science if the practitioner is scientific.
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
The psychiatrist is a clown. They all are.

We on GLP know that this is a Clown World run by Satan.

The goal of life is to "merge" with THE MOST HIGH GOD of INFINITE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE who is outside of "Satans Dark Matrix Prison Planet Earth Simulation".

hf
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1rof1 you came to GLP to ask for a psychiatric evaluation?

Defintely. Bat. Sh*t. Crazy.
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The psychiatrist is a clown. They all are.

We on GLP know that this is a Clown World run by Satan.

The goal of life is to "merge" with THE MOST HIGH GOD of INFINITE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE who is outside of "Satans Dark Matrix Prison Planet Earth Simulation".

hf
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You are really fucked up !!!!
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1rof1 you came to GLP to ask for a psychiatric evaluation?

Defintely. Bat. Sh*t. Crazy.
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Some people who post here are very intelligent --needless to say, you are not one of them.
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they call you delusional to discredit you.gas lighting 101.
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they call you delusional to discredit you.gas lighting 101.
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Exactly.
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1rof1 you came to GLP to ask for a psychiatric evaluation?

Defintely. Bat. Sh*t. Crazy.
 Quoting: President of TABTX


Some people who post here are very intelligent --needless to say, you are not one of them.
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Well that may be true but it didn't take me having a PHD to figure out you're either simply an attention-wh0re or as previously mentioned, bat-sh*t crazy. Or both. 50/50 chance you're a female.
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
Consider his viewpoint.

Also, this forum is not a valid venue to use to deconstruct the therapy you are paying this guy for.

If your position was easy, you would not have the conflicts that plague you.

Give him a shot. If not, consider his viewpoint as a starting place.
 Quoting: Swamprat


Where the fuck did you get the impression that I am "plagued"?

I am certainly disturbed by bastards who manipulate the judicial process, but that's not something that should plague me, is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80084708


Disturbed, then.
We aren't cut out to be socialists.We are the people who couldn't be constrained by Europe. We are the malcontents, idealists, speculators, dreamers, inventors, debtors and criminals who would not be chained. We don't play well with others, we are brash, outlandish and cunning. let us do what we do best; let us be Americans.
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Psychiatry is not a real Science.
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Yep.
We aren't cut out to be socialists.We are the people who couldn't be constrained by Europe. We are the malcontents, idealists, speculators, dreamers, inventors, debtors and criminals who would not be chained. We don't play well with others, we are brash, outlandish and cunning. let us do what we do best; let us be Americans.
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
Delusion seems to be the foundation on which human endeavor is built. Look no further than say, religion... Or the economy, or politics. The machinations of the "left" and the "right" is all delusion.

Tell the "doctor" to go fuck himself.
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Lots of GLPers are delusional. Your doc may have a point.
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Re: I have a serious question about a psychiatrist who claims that I am delusional. Can you please assess his diagnosis for the sake of clarity?
it was to vague,
did he get to the real cause or not then ?
you know many errors happen in our brains
it is not a super machine while hooked on a human,
he only used analogies which is not the solution for you at all
you just should express yourself in whatever manner your curiosity guides you, the energy must go ut and be recognized..
moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds
we make errors in between
perception->relation->behaviour
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Lots of GLPers are delusional. Your doc may have a point.
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The fact that you are there proves you are under the delusion that Doctors are good for something--rather than con artists.
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They are trying to control you.





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