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So... everything that can possibly be a "receiver" now is and needs serialized...


Hmmmm....


how's this for a thought folks. They LOVE their paperwork.. how bout 3.5 million folks around the country start serializing ALL of their shit that could be construed as a "receiver".. You pickin up what I am putting down?

I think the ATF needs about 3.5 million people sending forms to have 20 things serialized each..

Literally tons of paperwork.. lets get them BUSY!
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If your main stash isn't under some dirt by now you're falling behind.
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Sadly when its time to hide them

Its way past the time they should of been used
Never regret anything,for at one time its exactly what you wanted
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If your main stash isn't under some dirt by now you're falling behind.
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Fuck that, loaded and in reach 24/7 they will die trying and so will I. Send them straight to hell where they belong.
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rules arent laws, see you in court commies
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That's why they won't stop till after they stack the Supreme Court with Anti American judges.
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The COVID vaccine is the Mark of the Beast
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bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

Because there’s no triple 6 involved with the vaccine.
It’s clear the mark has triple 6s.
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Check out the patent number. lol
060606
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So... everything that can possibly be a "receiver" now is and needs serialized...


Hmmmm....


how's this for a thought folks. They LOVE their paperwork.. how bout 3.5 million folks around the country start serializing ALL of their shit that could be construed as a "receiver".. You pickin up what I am putting down?

I think the ATF needs about 3.5 million people sending forms to have 20 things serialized each..

Literally tons of paperwork.. lets get them BUSY!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80254080


im going to get a 4x4 and serilalize every 8 inches of it as an ar lower. this will pay off when they ban them and i have 350 ar lowers. will ust need to get some billet and fire up the mill at that point
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rules arent laws, see you in court commies
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uhhh maybe you missed it but the courts are corrupt as fuck. GL there buddy.
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rules arent laws, see you in court commies
 Quoting: TheTruthNeverLies


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This right here.... and throughout all this cv19 shit as well, just rules, not law.

This amendment is meant to be used in case of the government trying to take it from us.

I found it interesting Ozzies don't understand this, as it is with most around the world I suspect. The world really doesn't understand Americans at all I think, just view us instead by THEIR own standards, which are not all about freedom, as we are or used to be, here.

I have heard Mao being quoted with.... power comes from the barrel of a gun. I believe the first person to say that was T. Jefferson. Mao quoted him. I seem to remember this from when that was a "thing" and people were carrying their little red books of Chairman Mao around.. Thinking this would help them get laid or something. Even the Beatles said you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow... remember?

Getting carried away here, but you all know what I'm saying.

God bless America.

Pray for..peace

Prepare for....yoda
J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil.

Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves.
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If your main stash isn't under some dirt by now you're falling behind.
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Fuck that, loaded and in reach 24/7 they will die trying and so will I. Send them straight to hell where they belong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80250221


Keep a reliable rifle and sidearm ready for each adult, of course, & maybe a shotgun or two as well depending on your living situation. A few extra mags and 1000 loose rifle rounds each. Of course, don't bury all of it, you need to defend yourself daily.

You'd better be a pretty hard target if that's your plan though. You'd better be the one doing the ambushing & not the other way around if you're going to keep EVERYTHING in your house.

Plan an escape route. Let them have your house and bait guns. Recover your stash and live in hiding. You'll make more of an impact hitting unexpectedly & where they're weak instead of resisting an assault.


“Nobody ever defended anything successfully, there is only attack and attack and attack some more” ― George S. Patton Jr.
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First couple of minutes he mentions "unlicensed manufacturers".

There is NO SUCH THING as an "unlicensed manufacturer". Under the Law NOW, if a person is manufacturing firearms for sale without a Federal License, he is committing a crime. So he is a "criminal" not an "unlicensed manufacturer".

Under the Law NOW, a person can legally make a firearm for his personal use. He must keep it and not sell it. The firearm must be marked with his name and place it was made, i.e., "Joe Bloe, Wilson, KS".

If a person wants to take a piece of aluminum and machine it into an AR-15 type receiver, then assemble a parts kit on it, he can do that. It is legal as long as he marks it as above. If he wants to take another block of aluminum and machine it into an AR-10 type receiver and assemble a parts kit on it, he can do that too. The above applies.

Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

A Person may make all the firearms he wants for personal use under the above guidelines, however, only one copy of each different gun he makes. He must NEVER sell them.

Now ATF wants to change the definition of "receiver" and make the upper half of an AR type rifle into the serialized part, the "firearm", instead of the lower. Change the primary thing they have been regulating for over fifty years. Yeah, that makes sense. Now your AR is two firearms, instead of one.

How about this... If you buy a new barrel and install it, the barrel must have a serial number on it also. Is the barrel now a "firearm"? Who is responsible for serializing all these individual parts? The parts maker, who doesn't manufacture "firearms", or the end user who installs them?

Does all this sound like nonsense? It is nonsense. These "gun control" laws are nonsense.

All this junk talk about "Ghost Guns" is nonsense.

The agenda is about CONTROL.

It is "People Control", not "Gun Control".
 Quoting: seekinginformation


clappahesright
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So...one day you’re a law abiding free citizen, and the next you’re a felon who can do nothing but relinquish your expensive property to the government or pay huge taxes on every numbered part you own?

This is kind of backing a lot of people into a corner. I bet there will be a lot of dead ATF agents.
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So... everything that can possibly be a "receiver" now is and needs serialized...


Hmmmm....


how's this for a thought folks. They LOVE their paperwork.. how bout 3.5 million folks around the country start serializing ALL of their shit that could be construed as a "receiver".. You pickin up what I am putting down?

I think the ATF needs about 3.5 million people sending forms to have 20 things serialized each..

Literally tons of paperwork.. lets get them BUSY!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80254080


Don't forget to double staple and glue to bottom of envelope
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second amendment

use it or lose it

awww

too late bitch
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Just come out and say it.

America is overthrown. You are occupied.. You are the enemy.
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First couple of minutes he mentions "unlicensed manufacturers".

There is NO SUCH THING as an "unlicensed manufacturer". Under the Law NOW, if a person is manufacturing firearms for sale without a Federal License, he is committing a crime. So he is a "criminal" not an "unlicensed manufacturer".

Under the Law NOW, a person can legally make a firearm for his personal use. He must keep it and not sell it. The firearm must be marked with his name and place it was made, i.e., "Joe Bloe, Wilson, KS".

If a person wants to take a piece of aluminum and machine it into an AR-15 type receiver, then assemble a parts kit on it, he can do that. It is legal as long as he marks it as above. If he wants to take another block of aluminum and machine it into an AR-10 type receiver and assemble a parts kit on it, he can do that too. The above applies.

Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

A Person may make all the firearms he wants for personal use under the above guidelines, however, only one copy of each different gun he makes. He must NEVER sell them.

Now ATF wants to change the definition of "receiver" and make the upper half of an AR type rifle into the serialized part, the "firearm", instead of the lower. Change the primary thing they have been regulating for over fifty years. Yeah, that makes sense. Now your AR is two firearms, instead of one.

How about this... If you buy a new barrel and install it, the barrel must have a serial number on it also. Is the barrel now a "firearm"? Who is responsible for serializing all these individual parts? The parts maker, who doesn't manufacture "firearms", or the end user who installs them?

Does all this sound like nonsense? It is nonsense. These "gun control" laws are nonsense.

All this junk talk about "Ghost Guns" is nonsense.

The agenda is about CONTROL.

It is "People Control", not "Gun Control".
 Quoting: seekinginformation

It does not need serial numbers or marks as you call them if it’s for your personal use.
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My state says otherwise. Unless I plan on selling or willing, then I'm in compliance with my state's laws. Changing rules after the fact will only bring about court proceedings and possible rebellion of some sort.
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Using an analogy, wouldn't this be the equivalent of saying anyone having certain plumbing supplies could be considered being in possession of Bxmb making materials?

Or am I making more of it than I should?
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God forbid you grow hydroponic tomatos.
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rules arent laws, see you in court commies
 Quoting: TheTruthNeverLies


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This right here.... and throughout all this cv19 shit as well, just rules, not law.

This amendment is meant to be used in case of the government trying to take it from us.

I found it interesting Ozzies don't understand this, as it is with most around the world I suspect. The world really doesn't understand Americans at all I think, just view us instead by THEIR own standards, which are not all about freedom, as we are or used to be, here.

I have heard Mao being quoted with.... power comes from the barrel of a gun. I believe the first person to say that was T. Jefferson. Mao quoted him. I seem to remember this from when that was a "thing" and people were carrying their little red books of Chairman Mao around.. Thinking this would help them get laid or something. Even the Beatles said you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow... remember?

Getting carried away here, but you all know what I'm saying.

God bless America.

Pray for..peace

Prepare for....yoda
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Communists literally relitigate reality into some version of their intended enslavement and abuse of the majority to benefit a small very particular minority that lives wildly outside the limitations and control they impose on all others.

They will reinterpret and redefine even the most ubiquitous concepts into some reinterpretation that only they can apply and make any honest dialogue impossible in order to dominate and destroy anyone that refuses serve their malignant agenda.
They control the entire process, and only they are the beneficiaries of it.
Thats not a society or culture, its an oppressive theocracy and its intentional.
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Sadly when its time to hide them

Its way past the time they should of been used
 Quoting: Jynxx96


Agree 100%

There is absolutely no reason to hide your firearms. What good will they do you buried somewhere at the moment that you need to be using them?
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Pardon my french but the ATF can suck on my big fat hairy balls.

micdrop

Edit: Stay Arms has uppers in stock. It's a family owned manufacture out of Wyoming. Great quality, reasonable prices.

dance

Last Edited by DangerClose on 04/21/2021 02:56 PM
My posts that can be misconstrued as "extreme" and/or "radical" are satirical.

#NoHymenNoDiamond #PoppedCherryDontMarry
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The COVID vaccine is the Mark of the Beast
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79261903


bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

Because there’s no triple 6 involved with the vaccine.
It’s clear the mark has triple 6s.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70707278


Au Contraire

In the Experimental Grne Therapy there is an Enzyme which is based in Quantum Fot RFID a form of Mark/ Tattoo that will be au dermal

FDA already has approved...
It will make it possible to use a scanner (EMF?)
To read the BIOLUMINESCENCE. That will be forever in your body...

Luciferine

Look Up LUCIFERASE

As this is GatesOfHell critical action

Luciferase is basically 2020 #060606


So you may want to investigate as your DNA already receives Light Photonic Energy naturally and it emits Light


Why do such a stupid thing as inject poisons/heavy metals/fragments of pathogens, deadly neurotoxins, aborted fetal cells (human) and diseased blood components of various animals
Why do that to an Influenza A or Influenza B variant that normally has a 99.8% recovery...

Bells Palsy isn't too cool either or dying for an experimental concoction
That may not work or may kill you or may allow you to shed virus for 2-3 weeks sickening others even those with much higher risk:

75+ and 2-3 co-morbidities like Diabetes, Cancer, and High Z Blood Pressure


The paranoia has jumped the shark...
Hell, scalene is in it too
Dead sharks?!?!? And exactly how is that going to kill "covid19"

Fraudchi even stated in an article in 2005
"Chloroquines destroy CoronaVirus..."
Seems Ivermectin does too
But if tgat info was allowed to be heard... The approval for
"Experimental Gene Therapy" would not and could not of been used in this scamDEMic PlanDEMic


Research to grasp how mislead most are...

Fireflies I hear, to achieve the Luciferase...
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* Quantum Dot*
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Bun chalk oh mys.
Not anutter cig nature.
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What is a receiver?
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Sadly when its time to hide them

Its way past the time they should of been used
 Quoting: Jynxx96


Agree 100%

There is absolutely no reason to hide your firearms. What good will they do you buried somewhere at the moment that you need to be using them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75681556


You only have one gun? Three? Bottom line is you can only use one at a time. If you believe you'll be defending in a month-lomg siege, then sure keep all 12 of your rifles by the windows.

I don't disagree we are way past the time they should've been used. Well, we didn't. So now we're here and have to deal with the reality that well-armed agents may come to take our guns.

When they do, don't do something stupid and die. Stay alive to take care of your family or fight back; and fight back in a meaningful way, not just suicide by cop. Keeping a stash of weapons gives you that option: you can still fight back if you escape/comply, but not if you're dead.





GLP