Derek Chauvin Trial - VERDICT IS IN - Guilty On All Three Counts

Right, but when they are called up by a governor, unless nationalized by the president, they answer to the governor and his adjutant general. In Minnesota, that guy is Brig. Gen. Shawn Manke.

Last Edited by Revbo™ on 04/20/2021 11:46 AM

Yes. On paper it looks good.

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This is a very good point. In both this case and the 2019 arrest, the officers pulled their guns for no good reason.

Well no legal reason in my opinion. If I go knock on some guy's window to tell him he has a flat tire and his hands are briefly not visible I can't stick a gun in his face, I would go to jail.

I understand this is a shit neighborhood but in neither case were the police responding to a violent crime. Actually in the 2019 case I'm not even sure if there was a crime.

Having a cop pull a gun on you isn't fun, and they're a bit too willy nilly about it. I was working in Boston one time and couldn't find anywhere to take a piss, so I ended up using an empty bottle as nobody was around and I was in a tall truck where you couldn't really see in.

Cop came across the street to tell me I couldn't park there and when he saw me reaching down fumbling with something he drew on me... almost got shot over a parking issue.

Just goes to show they don't only do that to black people.

yes, still under state control.

You truly are blaming the victim. Society was the victim of George Floyd due to his life a crime.

The Joint Chiefs can still do things on their own Initiative (and i use that term dubiously.)

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Imagine the crimes that will be committed besides just looting. I sure as hell don't want my wife or daughter to be there.

I just don't see this ending nicely in any way. More blood will be shed most likely because people do not know how to show restraint.

Cops do sometimes pull a gun too quickly. Then again cops have to deal with career criminals like George Floyd.

In your case there was less reason to pull a gun. In Floyd’s he was known to have committed a crime and been highly intoxicated. It was also a bad neighborhood. When approached Floyd didn’t comply and show his hands in a car where a person could have a access to a gun.

Its going to be a shit show no matter the verdict. I would rather be in bagdad... honest.

All the analysts are correct here... hung jury.

Keep your powder dry.

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Don’t remember testimony about under the influence being included in call to police. The judge did remind the jury that assertions made during closing arguments are not to be considered evidence.

The store clerk testified he initially planned to just replace the bill if it really was phony, then changed his mind and reported it to the store manager, who insisted they try to get Floyd to make it good, and when that didn’t work, called the police. The store manager did not accept or want the clerk to replace the phony $20 with his own money.
And after this testimony the store issued a statement that employees are NOT required to pay back phony bills if they accept them. So maybe it was an unofficial policy or threat, to motivate employees to be more vigilant of counterfeit bills.

There have been no questions so far from the jury. I’m not sure if that means anything. Questions at least give some insight into what they may be thinking.

Sorry, but that jury room is going to be brutal.

Probably with one, maybe two that have enough integrity to see reasonable doubt enough to acquit.

Some of them want to just go home in peace and saftey so, what ever the majority wants, that is where their vote will be.

A few, are just biased from the get go as to the guilt of the defendant and no facts can change that. (Some for some against.)

The rest just frigging scared for their lives and their families.

Anyone holding out for real justice in this jury pool will be pressured beyond belief to bring about the justice that the mob demands.

The Jury has been deliberating for 7 hours now.

No questions for the Judge yet.

OJ Simpson jury only deliberated for 4 hours.

16 hours for the George Zimmerman trial.

or too slowly... either way, it's easier for us to say that, when we aren't the ones engaged in police business.

You are correct -- the perp has always been George Floyd and society has paid a price for his existence.

However, I am not a victim and I never see myself as one. I stand my ground against the George Floyds of this world. Bring your worst shit... we will overcome.

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Last Edited by Whatever It Takes on 04/20/2021 12:12 PM

That’s because Johnny Cochran had a better line than Blackwell. Blackwell’s, “George Floyd didn’t die of a big heart. He died because Chauvin’s heart was too small” was lame.

I appreciate the effort! No need for the cash for me but let's all have a celebratory beer!!

Today is an 11 day. There will most likely be a verdict later today.

I don't understand why people so frightened would even be on the jury. It's pretty easy to answer initial questions in a way to get yourself struck/dismissed as a potential juror- just present yourself as prejudiced in some way- against cops, already knowing things about Floyd's criminal background that has prejudiced you in that way, that it is against you beliefs to judge your fellow man in any way, etc.

Ha you caught that too?

I almost yakked when he said that.

doubted but never know

I'm thinking it will be somewhere between those two - my guess is tomorrow morning about 10am-ish cst

jurors will come to conclusions that they will nto be able to come together on a single decision but decide to sleep on it and rediscuss in morning - then by 10 they will decide its hung

I am myself hoping for acquittal - period

I think people who end up on a high profile jury like this fall into 1 of 3 categories:

1. Too stupid to get out of jury duty

2. Biased by strong personal beliefs and feel need to effect outcome of trial

3. Seeking payout from media for story when trial is over

Sounds like a good summation.

A non-sequestered jury with this kind of exposure and media bias, blasted 24/7 on their phones, fb accounts and tv.

Yep, the judge instructed them not to look, when has that stopped anyone from peeking?

I watched the Jury selection. Also, whole trial.

Based on answers some potential jurists gave. I'm convinced a few went in with possible lucrative book deals in mind. Or hefty interview fees from MSM.



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I wasn’t aware of an incident from 2017 where Chauvin apparently used a similar restraint (knee in the back) against a fourteen year old for seventeen minutes. That is a really long time!

What I find interesting is that the kid survived. So, doesn’t that suggest the technique isn’t deadly? If the Minneapolis police knew about this use of force, and didn’t discipline or fire Chauvin, that would suggest it was an approved technique, despite what they say now.

I do have a concern about how police sometimes subdue a person. If you put a knee on someone’s back it is natural to squirm around because it is uncomfortable. The same is true for other uses of force. It seems to me police will sometimes interpret natural body reactions to restraint as resisting.

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