Smoke em if you DON'T got em. Biden's plan to ban nicotine and menthol cigarettes | |
BirdMom
User ID: 79834879 Panama 04/21/2021 03:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The anti tobacco lobby was basically 100 percent all about second hand smoke. Then they started on the no vaping in public spaces and flavored tobacco anything. You are not allowed to take a chew of redman on a airplane. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80257323 So, if it is about the smoke then Marijuana should also be banned from apartments like tobacco smoking is right??? but oh no, marijuana is not the same until they say so. Honestly I think you should be able to smoke a banana peel in your own space or a cigar but it shows how stupid these anti freedom people are. It isn't anti-tobacco, people can smoke all they want, but just without the nicotine. Look it as a freedom movement: The United States is a free country and is going to be nicotine free also. :) This proves that all along they didn't want people receiving the benefits of nicotine, and that their anti-smoking campaign had nothing at all to do with health. Under the new rules, people can still trash their health from smoking, they just can't get the beneficial nicotine from it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79899633 United States 04/21/2021 03:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.wsj.com (secure)] Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface The Biden administration is considering requiring tobacco companies to lower the nicotine in all cigarettes sold in the U.S. to levels at which they are no longer addictive, according to people familiar with the matter. Administration officials are considering the policy as they approach a deadline for declaring the administration’s intentions on another tobacco question: whether or not to ban menthol cigarettes. The Food and Drug Administration must respond in court by April 29 to a citizens’ petition to ban menthols by disclosing whether the agency intends to pursue such a policy. The Biden administration is weighing whether to move forward on a menthol ban or a nicotine reduction in all cigarettes—or both, the people familiar with the matter said. The White House and the FDA didn’t immediately comment Monday. Great way for dems to lose black votes ban menthol madness |
Helios Maximus
User ID: 74772411 United States 04/21/2021 03:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All that will do is drive people to illegal tobacco, much like what happen here in Australia caus they upped the tax on cigarettes so much a pack of 20 costs like 30+ dollars & a pouch of 25 grams costs 50-60 dollars. I just buy illegal tobacco now which costs me 50 dollars for 100 grams & the scum bag government does not get a cent! Quoting: Billy-X Good on you, my friend. Prohibition yields a strong black market. In these times, the 'black' market is the true 'Free Market'. Since my first cigarette, prices have gone from $6 a carton to over $100/carton in New Jersey. Yeah, there's no inflation.....save for TAXATION. Tar & Nicotine has saved many lives from COVID-19. Us smokers have finely tuned ACE receptors which laughs off common respiratory viruses like SARS-COV2. A Turkish king was once beheaded by the people when he tried to ban tobacco. History tends to repeat itself.... or just suck on a carrot. Last Edited by Helios Maximus on 04/21/2021 03:36 AM The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object. ~ Thomas Jefferson, Inaugural Address, 1801 It is not only vain, but wicked, in a legislator to frame laws in opposition to the laws of nature, and to arm them with the terrors of death. This is truly creating crimes in order to punish them. ~ Thomas Jefferson, 1779 |
rainstormy
I watch the weather. User ID: 78163295 United States 04/21/2021 03:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vaping is a great thing if used properly and with good oils. I quit tobacco cigs thanks to vaping pens in one year. For years I couldn't let go of those one or two cigarettes at night. I'd have puffs at a time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79422414 Thing is I alwasy would pop some gum in my mouth before I would light it, the taste it so disgusting. the smell of the smoke is nice, but the taste yuck. Menthols are just horrible in tobacco, but in vape flavors, wow, mint is great and really helps you to get off the nicotine. No awful smells or tastes. Now if I have a craving I just use nicotine free vape oil, except I haven't used any in months. CBD pot helps you quit nicotine also but it does make you sleepy. They're coming after nicotine vaping next. In fact it's already been subject to a partial crackdown as well as regional bans in blue areas and I expect this will only intensify in the coming months. They'll use the argument that it's too appealing to kids and then throw in some pseudo-science about it being a public health threat. rainstormy |
Helios Maximus
User ID: 74772411 United States 04/21/2021 03:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me clue you in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74575773 You like a nice chicken dinner? Well how would you like it if that chicken smoked a pack a day? Not as much, right? So aside from Hillary Clinton, who's eating people? Let me clue you in. The greys feed by putting a batch of human organs in fluid then they basically take a bath in it, absorbing through their skin. Why do you think in China they remove the organs of concentration camp prisoners (without anaesthetic?) Where do you think those organs are going, for medical use? Wakey wakey. ~~~~~ It certainly is an era of disgusting realities. Add aborted baby parts sold for a variety of repulsive purposes. This is why they push pushing for 3rd Trimester & POST BIRTH as in New York! So in China they have more nauseating practices. The Bat Soup & Scorpions on a stick was nasty enough... Ewwww!! Nothing would surprise me anymore. Some things are better left unknown. HEY, you're one of the folks I despise about this website. Your post is nonsensical. Hillary Clinton? Smoking chickens?!? Organ harvesting? 'Grey' Aliens?!? Can't you stick to a relevant commentary? The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object. ~ Thomas Jefferson, Inaugural Address, 1801 It is not only vain, but wicked, in a legislator to frame laws in opposition to the laws of nature, and to arm them with the terrors of death. This is truly creating crimes in order to punish them. ~ Thomas Jefferson, 1779 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80222785 Australia 04/21/2021 03:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The anti tobacco lobby was basically 100 percent all about second hand smoke. Then they started on the no vaping in public spaces and flavored tobacco anything. You are not allowed to take a chew of redman on a airplane. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80257323 So, if it is about the smoke then Marijuana should also be banned from apartments like tobacco smoking is right??? but oh no, marijuana is not the same until they say so. Honestly I think you should be able to smoke a banana peel in your own space or a cigar but it shows how stupid these anti freedom people are. It isn't anti-tobacco, people can smoke all they want, but just without the nicotine. Look it as a freedom movement: The United States is a free country and is going to be nicotine free also. :) And next time I see any of you do gooders doing something I don't approve of, I reserve the right to snatch it out of your fucking hands and smash it on the ground. Mobile phone radiation springs to mind. It's bad for you. I think I will randomly smash some mobile phones. |
Saint Lance the Odd from BC
User ID: 77547432 Canada 04/21/2021 04:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every new law creates a new black market..er never mind...is that 'persons of colour market' lets just blame them folks, or never mind. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78481499 United States 04/21/2021 04:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lowering nicotine levels to "non-addictive" levels means current smokers will need to buy and smoke 20 packs of cigarettes per smoke break to get their fix. This is a boon to both the big tobacco industry and to the cancer industry. Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface Banning menthols primarily impacts black people. Watch what happens if that plan succeeds. Can we say riots bigger than if Chauvin gets acquitted? The average tax on a pack of gigs is over six dollars. Who gets the boon? |
thesoundsofspace
User ID: 79099224 United States 04/21/2021 04:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Efficacy of Nicotine in Preventing COVID-19 Infection (NICOVID-PREV) [link to clinicaltrials.gov (secure)] Personally I think lowering nicotine just makes the 'gene therapy' more effective. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74019340 United States 04/21/2021 04:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice, he'll create a brand new black market! I'll start growing tobacco in the summer, and sell delicious high-nicotine content cigi's all winter, and it will be organic. Way better than that shit big tobacco is pushing on everyone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6262286 Tobacco is a great pesticide all by itself. Good for getting rid of garden bugs and can be dosed for internal parasites. I might have to grow some as well for medicinal purposes. |
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Saint Lance the Odd from BC
User ID: 77547432 Canada 04/21/2021 04:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just fuckin ban em everywhere. I wish the UK government would ban them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72084094 :cpp2: If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
rob2
User ID: 80246755 United States 04/21/2021 04:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't grow your own tobacco, it's against the law. Only big tobacco companies can row tobacco in a couple of states. NC and VA I think. Why is this place so full of blithering idiots?! Of course you can grow all the tobacco you want for yourself! You just can't sell it without license and taxation. How do you idiots even get through the day without hurting yourselves? Please go get your vaxx and get sterilized. [link to paymentcloudinc.com (secure)] i was going to mention this, just not in a mean way. |
Hadriana
User ID: 77936235 United States 04/21/2021 04:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't grow your own tobacco, it's against the law. Only big tobacco companies can row tobacco in a couple of states. NC and VA I think. People think that, but it's not true. Called the ATF myself before I planted it in my home garden in Georgia. |
Saint Lance the Odd from BC
User ID: 77547432 Canada 04/21/2021 04:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't grow your own tobacco, it's against the law. Only big tobacco companies can row tobacco in a couple of states. NC and VA I think. People think that, but it's not true. Called the ATF myself before I planted it in my home garden in Georgia. It is (ex-tobacco picker) an awesome plant really. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80005397 United Kingdom 04/21/2021 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They already banned Menthols in UK last year. It was the reason I quit smoking because i can't smoke normal cigarettes. Best thing that happened to me. They cost £8.50-£10.00 a pack for 20 in UK, was costing me a fortune as i smoked a pack a day and i only smoked menthols so before the law was introduced I quit. from 20 a day to none. There is absolutely nothing good at all about smoking, health issues, stained teeth, smell, the cost... Anything to get rid of people smoking is a good thing. |
Saint Lance the Odd from BC
User ID: 77547432 Canada 04/21/2021 05:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They already banned Menthols in UK last year. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80005397 It was the reason I quit smoking because i can't smoke normal cigarettes. Best thing that happened to me. They cost £8.50-£10.00 a pack for 20 in UK, was costing me a fortune as i smoked a pack a day and i only smoked menthols so before the law was introduced I quit. from 20 a day to none. There is absolutely nothing good at all about smoking, health issues, stained teeth, smell, the cost... Anything to get rid of people smoking is a good thing. Shall we bow to your whims then nonce? If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47275706 United States 04/21/2021 06:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.wsj.com (secure)] Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface The Biden administration is considering requiring tobacco companies to lower the nicotine in all cigarettes sold in the U.S. to levels at which they are no longer addictive, according to people familiar with the matter. Administration officials are considering the policy as they approach a deadline for declaring the administration’s intentions on another tobacco question: whether or not to ban menthol cigarettes. The Food and Drug Administration must respond in court by April 29 to a citizens’ petition to ban menthols by disclosing whether the agency intends to pursue such a policy. The Biden administration is weighing whether to move forward on a menthol ban or a nicotine reduction in all cigarettes—or both, the people familiar with the matter said. The White House and the FDA didn’t immediately comment Monday. What... How the fuck can that do that. I'm all for a smoke free world, but that's nuts. It will make some people go insane. Ohhhh waaaiiittt.... |
BluRain508
User ID: 46894513 United States 04/21/2021 07:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Menthol and all flavored nicotine products including vape juice has already been banned here in Massachusetts under the guise that they encourage kids to smoke. Everyone just goes up to NH or RI to get theirs. And they're cheaper. I personally switched to organic tobacco. But if they want something that'll unite the left and right and black and white around a common goal, this would be it. Nothing like a bunch of angry, pissed off smokers who can't get their fix. It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77905128 United States 04/21/2021 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.wsj.com (secure)] Quoting: BoatyMcBoatface The Biden administration is considering requiring tobacco companies to lower the nicotine in all cigarettes sold in the U.S. to levels at which they are no longer addictive, according to people familiar with the matter. Administration officials are considering the policy as they approach a deadline for declaring the administration’s intentions on another tobacco question: whether or not to ban menthol cigarettes. The Food and Drug Administration must respond in court by April 29 to a citizens’ petition to ban menthols by disclosing whether the agency intends to pursue such a policy. The Biden administration is weighing whether to move forward on a menthol ban or a nicotine reduction in all cigarettes—or both, the people familiar with the matter said. The White House and the FDA didn’t immediately comment Monday. Great way for dems to lose black votes ban menthol madness That's OK, they just use more dead people and illegals instead. |
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Saint Lance the Odd from BC
User ID: 77547432 Canada 04/21/2021 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pretty much...lol...if you are a smoker (41 years at least a pack a day), make sure you have some Indian friends. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |