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How to respond to someone else that has your wireless device, LOUIS STYLE! | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78523258  Germany04/18/2021 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | looks like it was resold without reinstalling windows or factory resetting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78523258 You were supposed to factory reset before turning it over, everybody knows that except government workers apparently. This is why government workers get the reputation they do. you would know, Limelove what does that mean? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24190996  United States04/18/2021 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | looks like it was resold without reinstalling windows or factory resetting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78523258 You were supposed to factory reset before turning it over, everybody knows that except government workers apparently. This is why government workers get the reputation they do. you would know, Limelove what does that mean? BS |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80086217 United States04/18/2021 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all have broken or lost a phone or tablet, sometimes even a laptop!!! I'm a nice guy, an old man. I have never hidden I have a gov job--I work for you the tax payers, and I believe in justice delivered without warning where appropriate. Quoting: Louis in Richmond When my Samsung tablet was returned for replacement / destruction a few years ago AT&T gave me a new one. That should have been it, right? It was now gone forever. Then six months later I received an email from Samsung stating someone was trying to access my account via that tablet from the Ukraine. The email contained links that gave me a choice to disable alerts or permanently disable that tablet so it could not be reloaded with any OS or ever used. So I nuked it of course. Lets fast forward to today. I'm trying to use my laptop as the controller and 'secondary display over wireless' of any type for my old phone as I await the new one arriving. I noticed my network connected Surface 3 LTE appeared twice in my devices. The first one whose screen was shattered was returned to M$ for a replacement, which they sent to me. Again I was assured the broken device would be destroyed. While it no longer has access to my accounts it could still accept commands from me. I see this logged into my MS Gov Admin account... [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] There is only one possible response to such an afront by another daring to access a device I maintained control over. HAPPY MONDAY MORNING WHEN YOU TRY TO USE IT TOMORROW YOU CHEAP EXCUSE FOR GHANDI... [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] And yes, I have locked the device to prevent their using it again. Good luck using it to provide 'Offshore' customer support in their job tomorrow.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79982017 04/18/2021 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You said you turned it in perhaps it was legitimately sold a sscrap? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77376498 It would have been a legitimate sale had I not been assured it would be destroyed. They chose to not destroy either device so I used the built-in hardware back door that is present in every device to permanently render them useless. You do not need to register your personal devices so that you may control them if they are no longer in your possession. I am certain almost no one does. Engineering administrative backdoors exist in every device. This is not bragging. In my own and the careers of others we have learned the backdoors for numerous OS's, SCADA systems [I could pump 10,000 gallons of raw sewage onto Atlantic Avenue in Virginia Beach from this laptop if I chose], or shut down the power to various Naval Shipyard docks in the US. What matters is that people who will not do that are placed into those positions that could most abuse it. Even every brand of copier has an backdoor admin account and password. My cat is the background on the touch screen control panel of one gov copier nearest my office in the building I have not worked in for over a year behind COVID. Does your office have a building security system that reads your ID badge? It also has a backdoor username and password with full admin access; I have them committed to memory. The security scan badges can be imitated with a cell phone utilizing NFC, where do you think they came from? Perhaps the best lesson here is do not ever lose custody of any device or cell phone you have used and NEVER trade one in for a 'discount' on a new device as a factory reset removes NONE of your information from the device. Backdoors are tied to the CPU serial numbers so they may be found and accessed and controlled remotely regardless of their name or the network they are on. I'm simply sharing. Others may use the information as they choose. Admin accounts are not backdoors, and if there were backdoors to every device and OS we would not have a working system anywhere in the world because people would just abuse the hell out of them. You are making shit up dude, locking up a remote device is no brainer nowadays, plenty of inbuilt or 3rd party tools to do this. So you're not a genious, just an idiot who wants to be one. I've seen your other posts, who controls you? You're a deep shill talking bs You know, I've always wondered the same about the guy... Every post he makes about technology is complete misdirection. Not sure which agency exactly is running this puppet. |
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| Louis in Richmond
(OP) That is my arm now; broken for 7 months User ID: 77416134 United States04/18/2021 05:40 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you wipe a device such as a phone or tablet since factory reset in the standard menu doesn't actually do so? Quoting: Beyond I have not abandoned the thread, another GLPer called me and we were on the phone an hour or so. Other than installing an OS other than what the manufacturer or cell carrier has installed, I do not know how to wipe it. I now know to destroy devices. My new phone I ordered last week costs me over $700 more than it would had I turned in my old one. Instead I'll use it as a WiFi video camera overlooking my yard from a window. And that will be times two as I bought my wife a new one as well. Both have been used on government network. This post below explains how to best [edit] delete the data. Until we found a vendor that would physically destroy hard drives, phones, and tablets I gave them to a pair of coworkers that used them as targets when they did their weekend shooting. Thread: How to respond to someone else that has your wireless device, LOUIS STYLE! As for the 'there are no backdoors post', backdoors exist in Canon, Ricoh, and Kyocera copiers. Probably in many others. That is why their hard drives may be removed in their carriers with a key to place them in a safe overnight. A backjdoor exists in Johnson Controls SCADA systems which control public utilities such as water and sewage as well as building security systems. The backdoor may simply reset the Admin account password to default, but then you are in once you have done that. I wonder how many Naval Shipyards the 'poster without backdoors' has been called in to troubleshoot the SCADA system controlling power distribution? Or how many pumping station control systems he has repaired? How about how many Capitol security systems he has built, created the SQL database for, loaded the services and applications that control it, and the client software on the Police terminals as he built it? Last Edited by Louis in Richmond on 04/18/2021 05:55 PM Until your military service has required you neutralize enemy combatants and invaders in the defense of your country, don't presume to tell us that have defended you that you don't support every shot we fired to eliminate that enemy. |
| Paranoiaaaaa
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| beeches
User ID: 78973486 United States04/18/2021 05:41 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | looks like it was resold without reinstalling windows or factory resetting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78523258 You were supposed to factory reset before turning it over, everybody knows that except government workers apparently. This is why government workers get the reputation they do. you would know, Limelove what does that mean? a nickname for people born and whose ancestors were born in England... a scurvy cure... new to you? Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
| Alpacalips
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80073096 United States04/18/2021 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Louis in Richmond
(OP) That is my arm now; broken for 7 months User ID: 77416134 United States04/18/2021 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe they bought it used and didn't know the seller was selling a stolen device. Maybe it was bought used from a big store like Best Buy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80247245 . You Missed HIS POINT. He WAS Told by the MFG the Devices WOULD BE DESTROYED. This is Why I Buy Dell Computers with the Keep your Hard Drive Option. Although I have Kept ALL of my Devices I have purchased and Just put them in a Drawer. If/When I should decide to get rid of any of them, I Will take a Hammer to them to Assure they ARE Not Usable In any way Once they Leave MY Possession It's the Only Way to Assure they Will Not Ever be Used by Anyone. OP Is there a possibility that the Companies involved Have Liability in the Non-Destruction and Resale of your Devices, A big Enough Law Suite might Prevent those Co.'s from this practice in the Future, Also if these Devices were Used for Government Business then The full Weight of the Government can be brought down on them. I have over 15yrs Civil Service and It's not a Good Idea for a MFG or Provider to Refurbish and Resell Equipment a Complete Data Deletion and Re-image. OP did/are you going to let your Department Know of these Corrupt actions by the Involved Company's. The Government takes Data Security Very Seriously.(Unless U R Hillary) You DID THE Right Thing. Good on You.  . Thank you, they actually already know. I have 'pissed off' numerous vendors (actually their sales people) removing and destroying the hard drives from copiers. They resell them after the $65,000 lease runs out after 30 months. Until their technician installs a new drive and loads the LINUX OS they run back onto them they are useless and often cannot even make copies until serviced after destroying the hard drive. Until your military service has required you neutralize enemy combatants and invaders in the defense of your country, don't presume to tell us that have defended you that you don't support every shot we fired to eliminate that enemy. |
| Louis in Richmond
(OP) That is my arm now; broken for 7 months User ID: 77416134 United States04/18/2021 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | looks like it was resold without reinstalling windows or factory resetting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78523258 You were supposed to factory reset before turning it over, everybody knows that except government workers apparently. This is why government workers get the reputation they do. Read comprehension low? They had broken screens so could not be accessed by me the user. We have six phones with broken screens the AT&T store would not take back in trade because we could not wipe them. We would not have traded them anyway. To be specific: it was Microsoft that resold my Surface that was supposed to be destroyed and it was Asurion, the U.S. insurer of cell phones and tablets for all carriers that resold my Samsung tablet. AT&T would not take them back as they were [as my current devices are] on government accounts. Until your military service has required you neutralize enemy combatants and invaders in the defense of your country, don't presume to tell us that have defended you that you don't support every shot we fired to eliminate that enemy. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77376498 United States04/18/2021 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You said you turned it in perhaps it was legitimately sold a sscrap? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77376498 It would have been a legitimate sale had I not been assured it would be destroyed. They chose to not destroy either device so I used the built-in hardware back door that is present in every device to permanently render them useless. You do not need to register your personal devices so that you may control them if they are no longer in your possession. I am certain almost no one does. Engineering administrative backdoors exist in every device. This is not bragging. In my own and the careers of others we have learned the backdoors for numerous OS's, SCADA systems [I could pump 10,000 gallons of raw sewage onto Atlantic Avenue in Virginia Beach from this laptop if I chose], or shut down the power to various Naval Shipyard docks in the US. What matters is that people who will not do that are placed into those positions that could most abuse it. Even every brand of copier has an backdoor admin account and password. My cat is the background on the touch screen control panel of one gov copier nearest my office in the building I have not worked in for over a year behind COVID. Does your office have a building security system that reads your ID badge? It also has a backdoor username and password with full admin access; I have them committed to memory. The security scan badges can be imitated with a cell phone utilizing NFC, where do you think they came from? Perhaps the best lesson here is do not ever lose custody of any device or cell phone you have used and NEVER trade one in for a 'discount' on a new device as a factory reset removes NONE of your information from the device. Backdoors are tied to the CPU serial numbers so they may be found and accessed and controlled remotely regardless of their name or the network they are on. I'm simply sharing. Others may use the information as they choose. Interesting !I did military physical and technical securityinthe 80's& 90s (scifs)( pre internet). |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79971444  Luxembourg04/18/2021 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ~Sloane~
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74453562 United States04/18/2021 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Happy in Nature
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80191328 United States04/18/2021 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all have broken or lost a phone or tablet, sometimes even a laptop!!! I'm a nice guy, an old man. I have never hidden I have a gov job--I work for you the tax payers, and I believe in justice delivered without warning where appropriate. Quoting: Louis in Richmond When my Samsung tablet was returned for replacement / destruction a few years ago AT&T gave me a new one. That should have been it, right? It was now gone forever. Then six months later I received an email from Samsung stating someone was trying to access my account via that tablet from the Ukraine. The email contained links that gave me a choice to disable alerts or permanently disable that tablet so it could not be reloaded with any OS or ever used. So I nuked it of course. Lets fast forward to today. I'm trying to use my laptop as the controller and 'secondary display over wireless' of any type for my old phone as I await the new one arriving. I noticed my network connected Surface 3 LTE appeared twice in my devices. The first one whose screen was shattered was returned to M$ for a replacement, which they sent to me. Again I was assured the broken device would be destroyed. While it no longer has access to my accounts it could still accept commands from me. I see this logged into my MS Gov Admin account... [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] There is only one possible response to such an afront by another daring to access a device I maintained control over. HAPPY MONDAY MORNING WHEN YOU TRY TO USE IT TOMORROW YOU CHEAP EXCUSE FOR GHANDI... [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] And yes, I have locked the device to prevent their using it again. Good luck using it to provide 'Offshore' customer support in their job tomorrow. Yikes! You need to toss things like that in a bin in your attic with a lock on it. Keep your old devices in there until you die. That way stuff like this doesn't happen. heh.... once you are dead, then, what do you care what happens to it?  Or do step #2 get a big sledge hammer and some safety glasses and take out your frustrations on it.  Just don't let people get your old devices.... Those are the only sure way. (*to keep your devices out of other people's hands.) :jay: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80191328 United States04/18/2021 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | looks like it was resold without reinstalling windows or factory resetting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78523258 You were supposed to factory reset before turning it over, everybody knows that except government workers apparently. This is why government workers get the reputation they do. Read comprehension low? They had broken screens so could not be accessed by me the user. We have six phones with broken screens the AT&T store would not take back in trade because we could not wipe them. We would not have traded them anyway. To be specific: it was Microsoft that resold my Surface that was supposed to be destroyed and it was Asurion, the U.S. insurer of cell phones and tablets for all carriers that resold my Samsung tablet. AT&T would not take them back as they were [as my current devices are] on government accounts. Well, if you are the suing kind, you seem to have all of the evidence to hold Microsoft accountable. Maybe seek damages and restitution.... :jay: This isn't legal advice. Just an opinion on the topic. I am not a lawyer. |
| PinkOrchid-#ALLSTOP
User ID: 80239049  Australia04/18/2021 06:17 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmmmm deeper implications to this wee discovery. What if all Government devices have been backdoored and are being sent eventually to buyers who can source all material ever added to the device. Last Edited by PINKORCHID- In the Light on 04/18/2021 06:19 PM Warning proceeding to read this may cause anxiety, poster is indemnified if you proceed. I can't give you the ultimate truth ,it's all a matter of perspective and spin. So I empower you with the gift of discernment. SEE THE TRUTH , KNOW THE TRUTH, FEEL THE TRUTH |
| Hacked Again User ID: 74854347 United States04/18/2021 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These devices have to be personal items and not job related for if they were you don't deserve to be handling 'sensitive' information on any device as shown here. It sounds like they were turned over to a local computer shop for disposal which is just stupid in the first place. |
| Hacked Again User ID: 74854347 United States04/18/2021 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obviously you don't have a clearance type Gubment job or just have minimal access to sensitive information. Also no encryption involved to prevent these things from happening. Quoting: Hacked Again 74854347 These devices have to be personal items and not job related for if they were you don't deserve to be handling 'sensitive' information on any device as shown here. It sounds like they were turned over to a local computer shop for disposal which is just stupid in the first place. Correction, the Gubment contractor that handles these devices apparently only handles lower level information. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79928222 United States04/18/2021 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73890877 United States04/18/2021 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77495226 United States04/18/2021 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all have broken or lost a phone or tablet, sometimes even a laptop!!! I'm a nice guy, an old man. I have never hidden I have a gov job--I work for you the tax payers, and I believe in justice delivered without warning where appropriate. Quoting: Louis in Richmond When my Samsung tablet was returned for replacement / destruction a few years ago AT&T gave me a new one. That should have been it, right? It was now gone forever. Then six months later I received an email from Samsung stating someone was trying to access my account via that tablet from the Ukraine. The email contained links that gave me a choice to disable alerts or permanently disable that tablet so it could not be reloaded with any OS or ever used. So I nuked it of course. Lets fast forward to today. I'm trying to use my laptop as the controller and 'secondary display over wireless' of any type for my old phone as I await the new one arriving. I noticed my network connected Surface 3 LTE appeared twice in my devices. The first one whose screen was shattered was returned to M$ for a replacement, which they sent to me. Again I was assured the broken device would be destroyed. While it no longer has access to my accounts it could still accept commands from me. I see this logged into my MS Gov Admin account... [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] There is only one possible response to such an afront by another daring to access a device I maintained control over. HAPPY MONDAY MORNING WHEN YOU TRY TO USE IT TOMORROW YOU CHEAP EXCUSE FOR GHANDI... [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] And yes, I have locked the device to prevent their using it again. Good luck using it to provide 'Offshore' customer support in their job tomorrow. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80256462 United States04/18/2021 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You said you turned it in perhaps it was legitimately sold a sscrap? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77376498 It would have been a legitimate sale had I not been assured it would be destroyed. They chose to not destroy either device so I used the built-in hardware back door that is present in every device to permanently render them useless. You do not need to register your personal devices so that you may control them if they are no longer in your possession. I am certain almost no one does. Engineering administrative backdoors exist in every device. This is not bragging. In my own and the careers of others we have learned the backdoors for numerous OS's, SCADA systems [I could pump 10,000 gallons of raw sewage onto Atlantic Avenue in Virginia Beach from this laptop if I chose], or shut down the power to various Naval Shipyard docks in the US. What matters is that people who will not do that are placed into those positions that could most abuse it. Even every brand of copier has an backdoor admin account and password. My cat is the background on the touch screen control panel of one gov copier nearest my office in the building I have not worked in for over a year behind COVID. Does your office have a building security system that reads your ID badge? It also has a backdoor username and password with full admin access; I have them committed to memory. The security scan badges can be imitated with a cell phone utilizing NFC, where do you think they came from? Perhaps the best lesson here is do not ever lose custody of any device or cell phone you have used and NEVER trade one in for a 'discount' on a new device as a factory reset removes NONE of your information from the device. Backdoors are tied to the CPU serial numbers so they may be found and accessed and controlled remotely regardless of their name or the network they are on. I'm simply sharing. Others may use the information as they choose. You're pretty naive for a fed. The same back door you use to access it can be used by "others". ANd they can change or prevent you ability to access it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80256462 United States04/18/2021 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] I have said something like I know who you are and where you are and I am coming for you.  |
| No Clue User ID: 74854347 United States04/18/2021 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Things like this when handling information is sloppy and could be used for many reasons from gaining access to internal systems to blackmailing Government people is very poor security to say the least. If any device that is Government property that handles sensitive information should have a failsafe back door that can be accessed by the IT that originally formatted the system and can be shut down immediately by encryption rendering it useless to anyone who will try to gain access to the programs in case of such issues, not once it's repaired be able to gain any type of access. There's too many variables here that have gone wrong in many ways. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75534551 United States04/18/2021 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| rewind
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