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Do you believe in Free Will?

 
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Do you believe in Free Will?
I question Free Will because it seems as though one could believe that we are in full control of our own lives and, by the same token, are not. Which one is it?
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Depends how you define it.

The Distinction Between Free Will and Free Agency
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
We are mostly creatures of habit, so I think we are nowhere near as "Free" as we would perhaps like to think.

Only God truly has "Free Will."

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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Depends how you define it.

The Distinction Between Free Will and Free Agency
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I don't believe in sin so Free Will,for me, is a choice.
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
I question Free Will because it seems as though one could believe that we are in full control of our own lives and, by the same token, are not. Which one is it?
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Yes because i can use it to time travel and wisk you away in a ufo lol
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Sin is real and has eternal ramifications.
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Free Will or Free Grace?
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
We are mostly creatures of habit, so I think we are nowhere near as "Free" as we would perhaps like to think.

Only God truly has "Free Will."

drevil
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What is the connection between habit and Free Will? If only God has Free Will then why would he have created Earth? It seems sinister to think that one is not in full control of one's own life.
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
I question Free Will because it seems as though one could believe that we are in full control of our own lives and, by the same token, are not. Which one is it?
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You can identify with whatever you want: liberalism. Just avoid reality checks. lolsign
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Sin is real and has eternal ramifications.
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Sin is real only if you believe in it.
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
If you think about it - all of your decisions are conditioned by conditions and dispositions.

So did you decide to eat, or bodily conditions such as empty stomach (And having such a body) led you to make that “decision” and willed you to eat?
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Sin is real and has eternal ramifications.
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Sin is real only if you believe in it.
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Like gravity?
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Sin is real and has eternal ramifications.
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Sin is real only if you believe in it.
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Like gravity?
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Gravity conforms to the laws of physics and cannot be disputed that it does, in fact, exist.
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Sin is real and has eternal ramifications.
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Sin is real only if you believe in it.
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Mortality is very much real.
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Sin is real and has eternal ramifications.
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Sin is real only if you believe in it.
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Mortality is very much real.
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Morality is only real if you believe in duality. On the highest plane of existence, there is only One Love. Unconditional love is the answer. Thus, morality holds no water in the paradigm of non-duality.
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Sin is real and has eternal ramifications.
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Sin is real only if you believe in it.
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Mortality is very much real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75544390


Morality is only real if you believe in duality. On the highest plane of existence, there is only One Love. Unconditional love is the answer. Thus, morality holds no water in the paradigm of non-duality.
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MorTality, not morality duh
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Pretty sure you gotta pay some kind of fee or even a lawyer for a Will.
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Sin is real and has eternal ramifications.
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Sin is real only if you believe in it.
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Like gravity?
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Gravity conforms to the laws of physics and cannot be disputed that it does, in fact, exist.
 Quoting: Alex75


Gravity, defined as being mutual mass attraction, is bullshit.

Relative density, and a "downward" bias in direction, created by the electrostatic gradient from the positive sky, to the negative earth, accounts for what people call "gravity."

drevil
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Conscience works like a magic gravity you make all the choices untill someone asks you to make a decision lol
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Sin is real and has eternal ramifications.
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Sin is real only if you believe in it.
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Like gravity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78230975


chuckle
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Gosh...well that is something,when we were born everything was nicely balanced qua forrest and sahara deserts warming up the planet instead of playing starwars.
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
In Science there is no place for free will because of determinism. Physicians have "invented" the so called "La'Place Demon". Not really a demon but an imaginary beeing which knows the position and impulse of all particles in the universe and can also calculate with infinite speed.

That means the demon can calculate the paths of all the particles of your body. He knows where your particles will be tomorrow, therefore he knows what you will do tomorrow and what you will say tomorrow.
A free will can only exist if you would be able to change the paths of your particles. But you can't, laws of nature define the paths of your particles.

I believe into free will but it's absolutely clear for me that I have to believe into the supernatural for this. In science there is no place for free will.
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
And the life pusher on which we all enjoy to hang and use,is still going awire in the morning as if it payed attention to school for the second time to build dubai up instead of the rest?
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
In science there is no place for free will.
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Except in Quantum mechanics eyeroll2 The observer changes the observed.
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
Maybe its gravity getting nicer later l:
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
In science there is no place for free will.
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Except in Quantum mechanics eyeroll2 The observer changes the observed.
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Nice try. Quantum mechanics has three interpretations for the double slit-experiment: Kopenhagener Interpretation, De'Broglie-Bohm Interpretation and Many-Worlds-Interpretation.

Sorry, but I think you don't have much clue about this. You just throw the buzzword "quantum mechanics" into the room and you think you would have won because of this. But you just showed how clueless you are.
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
I question Free Will because it seems as though one could believe that we are in full control of our own lives and, by the same token, are not. Which one is it?
 Quoting: Alex75


We do have free will. However, the mind control programming is so strong, only the few really exercise it.
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
If you think about it - all of your decisions are conditioned by conditions and dispositions.

So did you decide to eat, or bodily conditions such as empty stomach (And having such a body) led you to make that “decision” and willed you to eat?
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Admittedly, eating and drinking is our only means of survival. Without it, we would cease to live. However, humans have blurred the line between want, need, and desire. In order to clarify any misconceptions you may have regarding the aforementioned three, I suggest you watch my video entitled, "Want, Need, and Desire."



Don't you desire to thrive in this world? What if I told you that without desire, your soul's evolution would end at the level of primal instinct?
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
And the life pusher on which we all enjoy to hang and use,is still going awire in the morning as if it payed attention to school for the second time to build dubai up instead of the rest?
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Like the bird wakes up at 6:00 in the morning finding civilisation a bit boring i guess,so it squeeks the whole city part awake until everybody goes to work l:
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Re: Do you believe in Free Will?
In science there is no place for free will.
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Except in Quantum mechanics eyeroll2 The observer changes the observed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75544390


chuckle

(And anywhere involving consciousness.) Which is pretty much everywhere.





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