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Biden Admin Wins ‘Immediate Possession’ Of Private Land To Expand Border Wall

 
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Biden Admin Wins ‘Immediate Possession’ Of Private Land To Expand Border Wall
The federal government won the right to take immediate possession of private land along the United States-Mexico border in order to continue construction of the border wall — and it does not appear the Biden administration is giving it back to landowners.

“The federal government can take ‘immediate possession’ of a Texas family’s land along the US-Mexico border after a years-long court battle, a federal judge has ruled — a move at odds with President Joe Biden’s pledge to halt wall construction,” CNN reported Wednesday. “Tuesday’s ruling from Judge Micaela Alvarez of the Texas Southern District Court was a blow to the Cavazos family, who for years have been fighting to keep the land that’s been passed down for generations.”

Previously, most of the border wall had been constructed on land owned by the federal government, but during the Trump administration, the government sought to take control of swaths of private land so that it could build in missing segments of the border wall; eventually, then-President Donald Trump wanted a wall across the full southern border.

Although President Joe Biden halted construction on the border wall with an executive order, signed on the first day of his presidency, the federal government did not drop the lawsuit, the landowners — who told CNN they voted for the Democrat — said.

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I skimmed the article, it didn't say how much the family was paid for the land

was it above or below market?
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I skimmed the article, it didn't say how much the family was paid for the land

was it above or below market?
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Does it matter? What matters is if the wall construction continues.
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true, I'm all for the Wall

but citizens deserve fair compensation when imminent domain is invoked

and a tad more

edit: Eminent domain, been drinkin'

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I skimmed the article, it didn't say how much the family was paid for the land

was it above or below market?
 Quoting: Tobie


Does it matter? What matters is if the wall construction continues.
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How much you want to bet the wall is not continued but still owned & used by the government? Only instead of the wall, there’ll be the construction of more “processing centers” for the illegals.
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true, I'm all for the Wall

but citizens deserve fair compensation when imminent domain is invoked

and a tad more

edit: Eminent domain, been drinkin'
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Is it for the wall? That's a whole lotta personal property, over 6,000 acres! WTF?
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true, I'm all for the Wall

but citizens deserve fair compensation when imminent domain is invoked

and a tad more

edit: Eminent domain, been drinkin'
 Quoting: Tobie


It's called an 'Easement.' I've got one on my own land. The government gets to access a significantly minor portion of my land in order to maintain public services.
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Now we know exactly what the border wall is AND WAS designed for. A one way gate. The roach motel, Hotel Americana.
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Now we know exactly what the border wall is AND WAS designed for. A one way gate. The roach motel, Hotel Americana.
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Not sure what you mean by that, but are you aware there are 50 LEGAL border crossings from Mexico into the USA? Thousands/millions of people come and go every single day....driving vehicles or walking.

Mexican kids go to school in the USA and walk/drive back to their homes in Mexico. There are paved roads and sidewalks at these crossings.. ID is needed to cross back and forth.

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Re: Biden Admin Wins ‘Immediate Possession’ Of Private Land To Expand Border Wall
true, I'm all for the Wall

but citizens deserve fair compensation when imminent domain is invoked

and a tad more

edit: Eminent domain, been drinkin'
 Quoting: Tobie


Is it for the wall? That's a whole lotta personal property, over 6,000 acres! WTF?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80034181


yah big money big deals. Gates is now the largest landowner in America.
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To hell with the wall. . .
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I skimmed the article, it didn't say how much the family was paid for the land

was it above or below market?
 Quoting: Tobie


Does it matter? What matters is if the wall construction continues.
 Quoting: Where Eagles Dare


Eminent Domain means government only pays market value for the land. Myself, being an appraiser, all sorts of shit can happen in an appraisal. The key is Highest and Best Use of the Land. There are four tests an appraiser must determine in a H&B use analysis. An appraiser must determine what is physically possible (ie is the intended use even possible given the geophysical properties of the land), legally permissible (ie zoning -- is a 20 foot wall allowed per zoning), financially feasible -- (well anything the government does is -- they spend money like it don't matter), and maximally productive. This last test maximally productive means is the wall financially beneficial to the owner-- in this case the USA. I think it can easily be argued how many millions, or billions it may SAVE (not earn) to the legal owner.

Having said that and being in the field 30+ years, different appraisers most likely will vary by an extreme margin. The government needs therefore to make a very specific "scope of work" assignment, laying out the conditions involved in the assignment. From a comparable sales standpoint, I'm sure the Trump administration purchased several linear miles (and acreage) along the border. Of course the most useful "unit of comparison" would be the price per linear foot of wall area. Hopefully that data will be made to several appraisers the government will likely retain to come up with a "market value" to compensate for the taking.
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They have to build a wall

They know Mexico will collapse within the next 4 or 5 years

They also know Latin America will never get rid of Covid-19 and its many mutations down there...which will end up mutating into a Latino MERS; if it hasn’t already

That will trigger the biggest refugee crisis the world has ever seen as they all flood to our Southern border to gain entry into the US

Lol you guys haven’t seen anything yet
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It's probably for a tiny wall above ground but tunnels below ground. It will look like we are trying above but below we're giving them an air conditioned tunnel to come here.
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Re: Biden Admin Wins ‘Immediate Possession’ Of Private Land To Expand Border Wall
Let's hope they drop those lawsuits. At least now the Feds will not continue seizing private ranch land through imminent domain.
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Re: Biden Admin Wins ‘Immediate Possession’ Of Private Land To Expand Border Wall
Wait. I thought the wall was "racist".

Is it not racist anymore?


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Wonder if there’s any uranium on that land?
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Wonder if there’s any uranium on that land?
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Continue the wall after 100,000 illegals already entered . Now they want to finish it to try and win over conservatives.
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This is classic. Just like all the preppers who think they will be so ready for a SHTF scenario with their cute little homesteads on the sides of the highways, the ZOG will come COG your shit up in a jiffy. No one is free.
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I skimmed the article, it didn't say how much the family was paid for the land

was it above or below market?
 Quoting: Tobie


Does it matter? What matters is if the wall construction continues.
 Quoting: Where Eagles Dare


How much you want to bet the wall is not continued but still owned & used by the government? Only instead of the wall, there’ll be the construction of more “processing centers” for the illegals.
 Quoting: KokoLoco


That sounds about right.
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Walls bad! Except when Insurrection happens! So walls good? Only if we take from lawful citizens! Build Wall and lie to American citizens!
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Re: Biden Admin Wins ‘Immediate Possession’ Of Private Land To Expand Border Wall
They have to build a wall

They know Mexico will collapse within the next 4 or 5 years

They also know Latin America will never get rid of Covid-19 and its many mutations down there...which will end up mutating into a Latino MERS; if it hasn’t already

That will trigger the biggest refugee crisis the world has ever seen as they all flood to our Southern border to gain entry into the US

Lol you guys haven’t seen anything yet
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You sound retarded
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Re: Biden Admin Wins ‘Immediate Possession’ Of Private Land To Expand Border Wall
They have to build a wall

They know Mexico will collapse within the next 4 or 5 years

They also know Latin America will never get rid of Covid-19 and its many mutations down there...which will end up mutating into a Latino MERS; if it hasn’t already

That will trigger the biggest refugee crisis the world has ever seen as they all flood to our Southern border to gain entry into the US

Lol you guys haven’t seen anything yet
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This has to be the dumbest thing i've read today.





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