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My family doctor tried to Bully me into getting the vaccine
So I live in Montreal, Canada. My family doctor wanted to make sure that, since I work at a pharmacy and the Pfizer vaccine is available to me (I'm only 42 by the way), that I should not hesitate to go for it. In fact, he made sure to let me know that if I DON'T get the vaccine, I'm a danger to society and would "never forgive myself" if I gave it to a member of my family or community. He even said that my chances of dying are pretty high! He literally kept saying "you could die!!"
When I voiced concerns about side effects and the whole thing happening so fast, he called me silly and called my "skeptical" opinions ignorant and "uneducated". I decided to switch family doctors, even if I'm on a waiting list for years. Fuck this guy. He literally had a whole list of statistics and logistics and talked down to me for even having concerns. He barely let me speak. I can only imagine what all doctors are being told to tell their patients on a daily. With this bullying technique I truly believe he's getting to 99% of his patients. I was fuming after my appointment. I want to fire him as my Doctor, but I feel certain he's one of many who think like this and feel that it's their job to convince people to take it.

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You're the smart one OP
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I've got a physical scheduled in a couple of weeks. I hope like hell mine doesn't start the crap. I really like her and have had her for quite a while.

But like you I won't be bullied into taking the "jab".
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Me and my mom had the same experience with a hematologist pushing the shot on her.
Never have I seen any doctor so arrogant and over the line. We immediately switched to a Trama Center doctor.
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doctors are dumb you dont need them unless you break something
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You're the smart one OP
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It scares me that it's getting to a point where it'll be harder and harder for people not wanting the vaccine to live life without being mocked, gaslighted and shunned from society. Almost everyone I know has gotten it. Some are close to 20 years younger than me as well. I hope we don't reach a point where I may have to choose between my job or getting vaccinated.
Like I'm okay with not traveling any time soon in the next few years, I don't need to go to events or concerts or rush into "getting back to normal" when we all know we won't. No matter what.
It's getting real, folks.

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So I live in Montreal, Canada. My family doctor wanted to make sure that, since I work at a pharmacy and the Pfizer vaccine is available to me (I'm only 42 by the way), that I should not hesitate and go for it. In fact, he made sure to let me know that if I DON'T get the vaccine, I'm a danger to society and would "never forgive myself" if I gave it to a member of my family or community. When I voiced concerns about side effects and the whole things happening so fast, he called me silly and called my "skeptical" opinions ignorant and "uneducated". I decided to switch family doctors, even if I'm on a waiting list for years. Fuck this guy. He literally had a whole list of statistics and logistics and talked down to me for even having concerns. He barely let me speak. I can only imagine what all doctors are being told to tell their patients on a daily. With this bullying technique I truly believe he's getting to 99% of his patients. I was fuming after my appointment. I want to fire him as my Doctor, but I feel certain he's one of many who think like this and feel that it's their job to convince people to take it.
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Good to know what’s coming down, Thanks.
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You're the smart one OP
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It scares me that it's getting to a point where it'll be harder and harder for people not wanting the vaccine to be gaslighted and shunned from society. Almost everyone I know has gotten it. Some are close to 20 years younger than me as well. I hope we don't reach a point where I may have to choose between my job or getting vaccinated.
Like I'm okay with not traveling any time soon in the next few years, I don't need to go to events or concerts or rush into "getting back to normal" when we all know we won't. No matter what.
It's getting real, folks.
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It is time to figure out a way to be self employed and out of the city. Yes, it is getting real.
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I've got a physical scheduled in a couple of weeks. I hope like hell mine doesn't start the crap. I really like her and have had her for quite a while.

But like you I won't be bullied into taking the "jab".
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I've been with this doctor for 15 plus years. I've always found him a little condescending, he has a "know-it-all" attitude and a superior aura about him in general. He always rubbed me the wrong way but I saw him once a year for checkups and blood work.
It's like he has a whole "selling pitch" ready but uses a rather aggressive approach in convincing you that he is 100% right and all knowing, and I'm just a crazy loon for not lining up like sheep to be jabbed with something I won't know its effects on my body.
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You should have looked directly into his eyes and calmly lied and told him you got it.

That is what I do to kill all conversations about the vaccine.
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Most doctors aren't particularly bright.

They're mostly just smart enough to regurgitate the material in medical school and pass. Think ~115 IQ which has a rarity of 1 in 6.

They're also mostly after money and prestige and status; which means they really have no incentive to "go against the grain" while they're still getting handsomely paid, even when they have quiet reservations about the safety or efficacy of something.

Furthermore, they're all quite certain that they're way smarter than you.


So yeah, fuck that guy. Never go back.
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So I live in Montreal, Canada. My family doctor wanted to make sure that, since I work at a pharmacy and the Pfizer vaccine is available to me (I'm only 42 by the way), that I should not hesitate and go for it. In fact, he made sure to let me know that if I DON'T get the vaccine, I'm a danger to society and would "never forgive myself" if I gave it to a member of my family or community. When I voiced concerns about side effects and the whole things happening so fast, he called me silly and called my "skeptical" opinions ignorant and "uneducated". I decided to switch family doctors, even if I'm on a waiting list for years. Fuck this guy. He literally had a whole list of statistics and logistics and talked down to me for even having concerns. He barely let me speak. I can only imagine what all doctors are being told to tell their patients on a daily. With this bullying technique I truly believe he's getting to 99% of his patients. I was fuming after my appointment. I want to fire him as my Doctor, but I feel certain he's one of many who think like this and feel that it's their job to convince people to take it.
 Quoting: SweetDee


I'll bet there are lots of people who have had this happen, as well.

His arrogance is evidence that he knows he doesn't know what he's talking about so he's over-compensating. Fuck him.
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Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

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Re: My family doctor tried to Bully me into getting the vaccine
So I live in Montreal, Canada. My family doctor wanted to make sure that, since I work at a pharmacy and the Pfizer vaccine is available to me (I'm only 42 by the way), that I should not hesitate and go for it. In fact, he made sure to let me know that if I DON'T get the vaccine, I'm a danger to society and would "never forgive myself" if I gave it to a member of my family or community. When I voiced concerns about side effects and the whole things happening so fast, he called me silly and called my "skeptical" opinions ignorant and "uneducated". I decided to switch family doctors, even if I'm on a waiting list for years. Fuck this guy. He literally had a whole list of statistics and logistics and talked down to me for even having concerns. He barely let me speak. I can only imagine what all doctors are being told to tell their patients on a daily. With this bullying technique I truly believe he's getting to 99% of his patients. I was fuming after my appointment. I want to fire him as my Doctor, but I feel certain he's one of many who think like this and feel that it's their job to convince people to take it.
 Quoting: SweetDee


In Canada, the docs get $$ for every vaccine 'sold' (paid for by tax $$)
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I would have ask him how much he’s being paid.

Push our Vaxx ur dr. loans disappear.
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Me and my mom had the same experience with a hematologist pushing the shot on her.
Never have I seen any doctor so arrogant and over the line. We immediately switched to a Trama Center doctor.
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Good on you! I want to do the same.
My mother, sister, brother in law and in laws have all taken the jab as well. They know how I feel about it, and they have remained silent on the matter. I never tried to convince my family not to take it (even tough I suggested they wait a bit) but everyone should do what they feel is right. It's scary what this world is becoming.
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As Nancy Reagan told us to do... Just say no. If you had stopped at just no, you would now not have find a new Doc. People in general from a Doc to an employer deserve nothing more than a no or perhaps a no thank you...
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You should have looked directly into his eyes and calmly lied and told him you got it.

That is what I do to kill all conversations about the vaccine.
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My elderly mother had to start lying to doctors to tell them she got the flu shot so that they wouldn't bully her. I was standing right there when one of them said "its a good thing that you already got it otherwise I would have forced you."
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You're the smart one OP
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It scares me that it's getting to a point where it'll be harder and harder for people not wanting the vaccine to be gaslighted and shunned from society. Almost everyone I know has gotten it. Some are close to 20 years younger than me as well. I hope we don't reach a point where I may have to choose between my job or getting vaccinated.
Like I'm okay with not traveling any time soon in the next few years, I don't need to go to events or concerts or rush into "getting back to normal" when we all know we won't. No matter what.
It's getting real, folks.
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It is time to figure out a way to be self employed and out of the city. Yes, it is getting real.
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I live in the English suburbs in Montreal, but I may have to go further west and away from this bullshit eventually. I guess it's time to reasses what's really important here.
Blessings
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doctors are dumb you dont need them unless you break something
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Re: My family doctor tried to Bully me into getting the vaccine
You should have looked directly into his eyes and calmly lied and told him you got it.

That is what I do to kill all conversations about the vaccine.
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My elderly mother had to start lying to doctors to tell them she got the flu shot so that they wouldn't bully her. I was standing right there when one of them said "its a good thing that you already got it otherwise I would have forced you."
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Yo I swear if they can't check this bullshit I'd just lie and get on with my life
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You could always play dumb...

"I was thinking about getting the J&J shot, but then I saw they were shutting down multiple sites due to adverse reactions. So I looked in to it and found they also had quality control issues at the factory as well.

All of this on the heels of AstraZeneca being banned across Europe, and Pfizer vaccine being banned in India? Now I'm concerned? How do we know that all of the vaccines don't cause dangerous blood clotting?

The CDC even says the vaccine doesn't prevent you from catching or spreading covid to others? Now I'm really confused. None of these vaccines are approved by the FDA either?

You're the expert Doctor. What do you think?"
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A few hundred years ago, the same type of dr. would have been trying to sell you on the virtues of bloodletting and leeches.


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You should have looked directly into his eyes and calmly lied and told him you got it.

That is what I do to kill all conversations about the vaccine.
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My elderly mother had to start lying to doctors to tell them she got the flu shot so that they wouldn't bully her. I was standing right there when one of them said "its a good thing that you already got it otherwise I would have forced you."
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Were you too shocked by his response to give him shit for saying that to your mom?
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The whole medical profession is based on lies and theory. Don't go to a doctor and you won't get sick. You can listen to your own body better than a doctor will listen to you. Unless you break something or need emergency surgery...stay away from them!
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Good on you, stick to your guns.

People like that are going bye bye soon anyway. Too bad they will take some good people with them. What a mess.
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You should have looked directly into his eyes and calmly lied and told him you got it.

That is what I do to kill all conversations about the vaccine.
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My elderly mother had to start lying to doctors to tell them she got the flu shot so that they wouldn't bully her. I was standing right there when one of them said "its a good thing that you already got it otherwise I would have forced you."
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Were you too shocked by his response to give him shit for saying that to your mom?
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When spouting statistics, you should have asked him to let you see the medium and long term studies and effects from this vaccine. He can’t, there are none. Some say that’s what they are doing now. Possible, but I think this either job security for big pharma/government or just straight out genocide. Maybe some of both.
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The whole medical profession is based on lies and theory. Don't go to a doctor and you won't get sick. You can listen to your own body better than a doctor will listen to you. Unless you break something or need emergency surgery...stay away from them!
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I'm with you.

Otherwise, if you have to go, then take your fucking balls with you and remain in charge of your own health.

Don't cower or defer.
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When people really irritate me I just get flippant. I might have said something like, “well actually I endanger society in far worse and possibly illegal ways”.

It doesn’t really bother me when people push things on me. And while I listen to doctors I don’t worry much about their advice. It is usually half right. But that is true for most professionals.
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Re: My family doctor tried to Bully me into getting the vaccine
So I live in Montreal, Canada. My family doctor wanted to make sure that, since I work at a pharmacy and the Pfizer vaccine is available to me (I'm only 42 by the way), that I should not hesitate and go for it. In fact, he made sure to let me know that if I DON'T get the vaccine, I'm a danger to society and would "never forgive myself" if I gave it to a member of my family or community. When I voiced concerns about side effects and the whole things happening so fast, he called me silly and called my "skeptical" opinions ignorant and "uneducated". I decided to switch family doctors, even if I'm on a waiting list for years. Fuck this guy. He literally had a whole list of statistics and logistics and talked down to me for even having concerns. He barely let me speak. I can only imagine what all doctors are being told to tell their patients on a daily. With this bullying technique I truly believe he's getting to 99% of his patients. I was fuming after my appointment. I want to fire him as my Doctor, but I feel certain he's one of many who think like this and feel that it's their job to convince people to take it.
 Quoting: SweetDee


I've told my employees that we will not require the jab for them to work. I implied that if we become pressured, the company might say no need for the jab, we have all been jabbed already.

My company has been through the wringer from the Kung Flu. We were declared critical in March of 2020, and we kept working, and growing, even when things were pretty sketchy and it was a bit scary for all of us. Travel documents, empty highways, strange looks because we were still 'doing the things'.

The result is a tight group of folks that have shared the experience, and it has brought us closer, tighter, and actually made us a better team.

One of our older workers had his wife in a care facility after she had a third stroke. She was improving and due to come home, so he was building a handicapped ramp on their house and installing handicapped rails in the bathrooms...

Three weeks ago, she got the jab. No warning, no permission, no choice. He found out afterwards, and she is non-verbal and unable to protest.

She died unexpectedly a week later.

Now he wears a locket of her hair in a little silver heart around his neck.

TPTB will have a tough time getting my peeps to subject to their experiment.





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