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HOUSING MARKET BLACK PILL: Or why housing prices will continue to rise until the complete collapse of the system.

 
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Disclaimer: I am not a licensed financial advisor and this is not financial advice. This information provided is just the opinion of an old mountain man.

TLDR: "my people perish for lack of knowledge" "the easy things in life make you fat, sick and dumb."

I'm going to start at the bottom floor because unfortunately too many people are completely unaware of how the housing market works. See the below picture:

[link to investors-corner.bnpparibas-am.com (secure)]

When you buy a house with a mortgage, most likely that mortgage is not just a debt sitting on a ledger at the bank. Your mortgage, along with the mortgages of thousands, or even tens of thousands of other people, have been bundled together into a financial instrument called a Mortgage Backed Security (MBS). The theory behind these securities is that if you have 1,000 mortgages bundled and then sliced into 1,000 parts if one mortgage defaults, it is only a .1% loss over the entire security.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

These security instruments gained a lot of press in the 2007 financial crisis when it was discovered that "toxic" mortgages were rolled within these complex securities and spread around the financial industry.

Many people are unaware of how this systemic problem was "solved." One of the primary ways was through the Federal Reserve, who began to buy up these toxic MBS in order to restore confidence in the MBS industry.

[link to www.federalreserve.gov (secure)]

"Well what the heck is this post about Bob? The housing market recovered, so what's the big deal?"

Well, here is the dirty little secret, they never stopped buying them. Even after the supposed "recovery" the Federal Reserve just kept buying and buying and buying...

[link to thetradable.com (secure)]

[link to www.federalreserve.gov (secure)]

As of last month the Fed held $2,184,684,000,000 in mortgage backed securities.

Step back and ask yourself, if the economy recovered from the financial crisis, why didn't the fed accelerate their purchasing of MBS' dramatically in the last 10 years?

This is the black pill: These actions by the Fed aren't going to stop or reverse in the foreseeable future, in fact it's not so much a "won't" as it a "can't". Their actions have injected $2 TRILLION dollars into the housing market, and made housing a GOVERNMENT GUARANTEED asset.

[link to www.theatlantic.com (secure)]

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]


This direct intervention into the market (not to mention their $4 trillion dollars in t-bills) is fast-tracking us back to a serfdom economic model where the wealthy lords own all the property and the non-elite class "own nothing and love it."

But I fear that we'll have a full scale revolution on our hands before this happens. The looting that we have been witnessing on the streets has also been happening in our government and wall street, the only difference is the media reports the $200 shoe thief, but not the $100 million hedge fund robber baron.

"Prepare ye the way of the LORD."
 Quoting: russianbot2020


Good analysis from OP. Also the early millennials have a higher population due to baby population rise during that era, which will create artificially high demand for some time to come, as they've all reached their 30's.

This is a perfect storm of slavery and unaffordability.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79816948


This is not a good analysis at all. The guy is repeating tropes from 10 years ago.

They have printed trillions of paper dollars....the price of Real Estate is just relative to the value of all that paper.

When interest rates are near zero....that is the exact opposite of the housing crisis...when balloon payments caused by rising interest rates increased faster than the value of a property making a person with no equity tied to the home decide to abandon a falling asset.

This OP's post is literally the gibberish of a complete know-nothing.
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Most people under 30 seem to want to be slaves so they don't have to think or work.

Similar to ex-cons who get institutionalized in prison and don't know how to function when they get out.

What they did was institutionalize an entire generation of children to be dependent on the government and have no actual trade skills and be in tremendous debt from their mostly worthless college degree's.

Now there's almost no way for the youngest generations to be able to sustain themselves without UBI and debt forgiveness, which the government will trade for their freedom, privacy, and property rights.

What's happened seems to be a very old plan, and so well done at times I do believe there's a spiritual/occult aspect behind it.
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Housing prices rise= Asian money-laundering
Asians smell trouble--& want to park their stolen money in the West
They keep housing prices up by buying & selling to one another
Happening here in Australia
Housing properties remain empty--while Australian citizens live in shoe boxes
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And there's more.people living in the streets as it is.

I half expect them to start renting wooded areas beside interstates out to people and there to be a bidding war over a space to erect a tent.
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It looks like the people who decided not to start a family were right after all. I can't imagine what a kids today's life will be like when they come of age. I don't see any graceful way out of this.
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Think of the parents who lied to them all these years

Telling them everything is okie dokie

Going to have a lot of explaining to do
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I am a pessimistic person and even I didn't expect it to get this bad. Now I'm afraid the matching property tax will become unaffordable. People who already own homes will have to either go back to work, sell, or work until they are over 85 if they are working now.
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Reflect on the results of intentional depopulation on the price of average grade properties not to mention the average Americans inability to find higher level employement and compensation to keep up with immigrant labor and underlying costs of integrating the unintegratable seeking complete dependency of the dwindling tax base.
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Disclaimer: I am not a licensed financial advisor and this is not financial advice. This information provided is just the opinion of an old mountain man.

TLDR: "my people perish for lack of knowledge" "the easy things in life make you fat, sick and dumb."

I'm going to start at the bottom floor because unfortunately too many people are completely unaware of how the housing market works. See the below picture:

[link to investors-corner.bnpparibas-am.com (secure)]

When you buy a house with a mortgage, most likely that mortgage is not just a debt sitting on a ledger at the bank. Your mortgage, along with the mortgages of thousands, or even tens of thousands of other people, have been bundled together into a financial instrument called a Mortgage Backed Security (MBS). The theory behind these securities is that if you have 1,000 mortgages bundled and then sliced into 1,000 parts if one mortgage defaults, it is only a .1% loss over the entire security.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

These security instruments gained a lot of press in the 2007 financial crisis when it was discovered that "toxic" mortgages were rolled within these complex securities and spread around the financial industry.

Many people are unaware of how this systemic problem was "solved." One of the primary ways was through the Federal Reserve, who began to buy up these toxic MBS in order to restore confidence in the MBS industry.

[link to www.federalreserve.gov (secure)]

"Well what the heck is this post about Bob? The housing market recovered, so what's the big deal?"

Well, here is the dirty little secret, they never stopped buying them. Even after the supposed "recovery" the Federal Reserve just kept buying and buying and buying...

[link to thetradable.com (secure)]

[link to www.federalreserve.gov (secure)]

As of last month the Fed held $2,184,684,000,000 in mortgage backed securities.

Step back and ask yourself, if the economy recovered from the financial crisis, why didn't the fed accelerate their purchasing of MBS' dramatically in the last 10 years?

This is the black pill: These actions by the Fed aren't going to stop or reverse in the foreseeable future, in fact it's not so much a "won't" as it a "can't". Their actions have injected $2 TRILLION dollars into the housing market, and made housing a GOVERNMENT GUARANTEED asset.

[link to www.theatlantic.com (secure)]

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]


This direct intervention into the market (not to mention their $4 trillion dollars in t-bills) is fast-tracking us back to a serfdom economic model where the wealthy lords own all the property and the non-elite class "own nothing and love it."

But I fear that we'll have a full scale revolution on our hands before this happens. The looting that we have been witnessing on the streets has also been happening in our government and wall street, the only difference is the media reports the $200 shoe thief, but not the $100 million hedge fund robber baron.

"Prepare ye the way of the LORD."
 Quoting: russianbot2020


Good analysis from OP. Also the early millennials have a higher population due to baby population rise during that era, which will create artificially high demand for some time to come, as they've all reached their 30's.

This is a perfect storm of slavery and unaffordability.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79816948


This is not a good analysis at all. The guy is repeating tropes from 10 years ago.

They have printed trillions of paper dollars....the price of Real Estate is just relative to the value of all that paper.

When interest rates are near zero....that is the exact opposite of the housing crisis...when balloon payments caused by rising interest rates increased faster than the value of a property making a person with no equity tied to the home decide to abandon a falling asset.

This OP's post is literally the gibberish of a complete know-nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78803971


Being called a know-nothing by an AC is a badge of honor for the GLP crowd.

Between 2001 and 2009 mortgage rates averaged a mean delta of no greater than 1%, peaking in 2006 at 6.41% and tumbled every year until bottoming out at 3.66% in 2012.

[link to www.freddiemac.com]

Yes, there were people walking away from homes due to ARMs, but this was a very small part of the problem. The issue was that the institutional lenders were scared shirtless of the ticking timebombs in the MBSs that were being bundled and sold at the time.

[link to www.insurancejournal.com (secure)]

When the Fed jumped in the game by buying the bad assets they signaled to the industry that mortgage backed securities were a guaranteed asset that would be bought up by the fed if anything ever looked like it was going to go south.

I sure liked it when ACs were banned! :)

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Where are all these people getting the money to overbid on houses? Isn't there like a lot of people out of work now?
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I've wondered this same thing over the last year.

Housing sales are at RECORD highs, and the prices are through the roof.

Yet most of the people on my block are home every day, only leaving their house for grocery shopping, etc...

Most of them are out of work, yet the housing market is on fire.
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With inflation everything goes up but you will still get zero interest on savings at the bank.

Part two will be digital only money, no floorboard cash and then you will see negative interest rates on your savings.

Now you know why COVID has been used to introduce "Card Only" checkout counters at super stores and base rates are close to zero.

Physical gold/silver will save me so what's your plan and please don't say gambling on Bitcoin because thats set to implode and create a money black hole
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80195790


Why does everyone think that's the answer? It's basically a ponzi controlled by whales and the banks and the fed are letting it be for now, but they can nix it at anytime.

Physical gold and silver is not so easy to take.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78349802


They can take your gold and silver easier than your Bitcoin
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Another imaginary "money" investor ^^^
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With inflation everything goes up but you will still get zero interest on savings at the bank.

Part two will be digital only money, no floorboard cash and then you will see negative interest rates on your savings.

Now you know why COVID has been used to introduce "Card Only" checkout counters at super stores and base rates are close to zero.

Physical gold/silver will save me so what's your plan and please don't say gambling on Bitcoin because thats set to implode and create a money black hole
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80195790


Why does everyone think that's the answer? It's basically a ponzi controlled by whales and the banks and the fed are letting it be for now, but they can nix it at anytime.

Physical gold and silver is not so easy to take.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78349802


They can take your gold and silver easier than your Bitcoin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77808606


That is the most stupid thing I've ever read on the Internet, not this site, but the entire internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78349802


He's a Canuckturd.

Cut the moron some slack.

He's already has his guns taken, so he figure everyone will hand over their gold and silver too.
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Well in a year, millions are going to be dropping dead.

This inoculation campaign is going to change the market. They will blame it on another hoax virus of course.

I see the market plummeting due to mass vacancies.

Hopefully less liberals will be around next year?

Shrug will see soon enough.
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Yes, the good news is, that it's mostly idiots and fools that are getting themselves injected with this garbage. The same ones who actually believe the COVID nonsense.

The wold could (and should) do without them.
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world ^^^
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We are headed for a crash alright.

It will crash STRAIGHT UP. Like Weimar Germany and Zimbabwe. They didn't think it would happen there either.

This is actually really similar to Japan's rise, through the 80s, but the difference was that the Bank of Japan wasn't intent on destroying the currency, nor was the population so reliant on government handouts.
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Michigan Population grew 5X . It is the elite doing it. You have to swallow it whatever they give you. People in the know, they can see we are being robbed. But try to convince your fellow Americans.
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Welcome back to the 2008 bubble
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New and improved version, now with even bigger consequences!

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...


Why does everyone think that's the answer? It's basically a ponzi controlled by whales and the banks and the fed are letting it be for now, but they can nix it at anytime.

Physical gold and silver is not so easy to take.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78349802


They can take your gold and silver easier than your Bitcoin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77808606


That is the most stupid thing I've ever read on the Internet, not this site, but the entire internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78349802


He's a Canuckturd.

Cut the moron some slack.

He's already has his guns taken, so he figure everyone will hand over their gold and silver too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80237374


He would probably come back later with the "cold wallet" and it's not hooked up to any computer. But bitcoin is literally nothing, all any country has to do is not accept it or recognize it. Can't do that with gold or silver that actually does have an intrinsic value and uses.
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Welcome back to the 2008 bubble
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New and improved version, now with even bigger consequences!

rex
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The 2008 one gave us this bitcon garbage. Let's see how that factors into this one.
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Where are all these people getting the money to overbid on houses? Isn't there like a lot of people out of work now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78349802


I've wondered this same thing over the last year.

Housing sales are at RECORD highs, and the prices are through the roof.

Yet most of the people on my block are home every day, only leaving their house for grocery shopping, etc...

Most of them are out of work, yet the housing market is on fire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80237374


I’m advising a young couple now on their first home purchase. They are consumers and can’t save or budget. But, they do have 3 kids and just got a Load of cash from Corona Stimulus, so they thin’ they can be homeowners. Now and they are right. Almost nothing down, low interest payments, their mortgage will be a couple hundred less than their double-wide rent
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Can someone give me advice. Should I buy a home now? Should I wait? This was my year to get back into a house after a divorce that took everything from me. I keep seeing these threads and I am unsure what direction is best.
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Can someone give me advice. Should I buy a home now? Should I wait? This was my year to get back into a house after a divorce that took everything from me. I keep seeing these threads and I am unsure what direction is best.
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Probably, yes.
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We are headed for a crash alright.

It will crash STRAIGHT UP. Like Weimar Germany and Zimbabwe. They didn't think it would happen there either.

This is actually really similar to Japan's rise, through the 80s, but the difference was that the Bank of Japan wasn't intent on destroying the currency, nor was the population so reliant on government handouts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80187691


This is what Austrian economists call the crack up boom just before the complete debasement and eventual rejection of the currency.

A new digital currency will have to replace it, shame everyone will get a 90% haircut on all their assets after the 'revaluation'.

This is their plan, this is why they don't give a fig about deficits and are spraying the money around like a drunken sailor. I'm sure Americans are already feeling the effects of Janet Yellen's largesse by the sticker shock they are getting compared to even just a year ago.

Expect more and more inflation in your daily purchases.

If you really want to go into depth and understand how the actual plumbing of the financial system works and how it is programmed to blow up by the PTB then watch this.

WARNING : Requires 30 min of intense focus to understand and probably watching twice to fully get it.

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I don't know about your area, but in my area houses are expensive because flippers and renters scoop them up immediately

It's been this way for 12 years

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Just one thing to say...


China.
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With inflation everything goes up but you will still get zero interest on savings at the bank.

Part two will be digital only money, no floorboard cash and then you will see negative interest rates on your savings.

Now you know why COVID has been used to introduce "Card Only" checkout counters at super stores and base rates are close to zero.

Physical gold/silver will save me so what's your plan and please don't say gambling on Bitcoin because thats set to implode and create a money black hole
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80195790


Why does everyone think that's the answer? It's basically a ponzi controlled by whales and the banks and the fed are letting it be for now, but they can nix it at anytime.

Physical gold and silver is not so easy to take.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78349802


They can take your gold and silver easier than your Bitcoin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77808606


That is the most stupid thing I've ever read on the Internet, not this site, but the entire internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78349802


I guess you are too young and ignorant to have heard of Exec. Order 6102.

Who is the stupid one now??? Hmmm?
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Most people under 30 seem to want to be slaves so they don't have to think or work.

Similar to ex-cons who get institutionalized in prison and don't know how to function when they get out.

What they did was institutionalize an entire generation of children to be dependent on the government and have no actual trade skills and be in tremendous debt from their mostly worthless college degree's.

Now there's almost no way for the youngest generations to be able to sustain themselves without UBI and debt forgiveness, which the government will trade for their freedom, privacy, and property rights.

What's happened seems to be a very old plan, and so well done at times I do believe there's a spiritual/occult aspect behind it.
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It would seem so.
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Disclaimer: I am not a licensed financial advisor and this is not financial advice. This information provided is just the opinion of an old mountain man.

TLDR: "my people perish for lack of knowledge" "the easy things in life make you fat, sick and dumb."

I'm going to start at the bottom floor because unfortunately too many people are completely unaware of how the housing market works. See the below picture:

[link to investors-corner.bnpparibas-am.com (secure)]

When you buy a house with a mortgage, most likely that mortgage is not just a debt sitting on a ledger at the bank. Your mortgage, along with the mortgages of thousands, or even tens of thousands of other people, have been bundled together into a financial instrument called a Mortgage Backed Security (MBS). The theory behind these securities is that if you have 1,000 mortgages bundled and then sliced into 1,000 parts if one mortgage defaults, it is only a .1% loss over the entire security.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

These security instruments gained a lot of press in the 2007 financial crisis when it was discovered that "toxic" mortgages were rolled within these complex securities and spread around the financial industry.

Many people are unaware of how this systemic problem was "solved." One of the primary ways was through the Federal Reserve, who began to buy up these toxic MBS in order to restore confidence in the MBS industry.

[link to www.federalreserve.gov (secure)]

"Well what the heck is this post about Bob? The housing market recovered, so what's the big deal?"

Well, here is the dirty little secret, they never stopped buying them. Even after the supposed "recovery" the Federal Reserve just kept buying and buying and buying...

[link to thetradable.com (secure)]

[link to www.federalreserve.gov (secure)]

As of last month the Fed held $2,184,684,000,000 in mortgage backed securities.

Step back and ask yourself, if the economy recovered from the financial crisis, why didn't the fed accelerate their purchasing of MBS' dramatically in the last 10 years?

This is the black pill: These actions by the Fed aren't going to stop or reverse in the foreseeable future, in fact it's not so much a "won't" as it a "can't". Their actions have injected $2 TRILLION dollars into the housing market, and made housing a GOVERNMENT GUARANTEED asset.

[link to www.theatlantic.com (secure)]

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]


This direct intervention into the market (not to mention their $4 trillion dollars in t-bills) is fast-tracking us back to a serfdom economic model where the wealthy lords own all the property and the non-elite class "own nothing and love it."

But I fear that we'll have a full scale revolution on our hands before this happens. The looting that we have been witnessing on the streets has also been happening in our government and wall street, the only difference is the media reports the $200 shoe thief, but not the $100 million hedge fund robber baron.

"Prepare ye the way of the LORD."
 Quoting: russianbot2020


Good analysis from OP. Also the early millennials have a higher population due to baby population rise during that era, which will create artificially high demand for some time to come, as they've all reached their 30's.

This is a perfect storm of slavery and unaffordability.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79816948


This is not a good analysis at all. The guy is repeating tropes from 10 years ago.

They have printed trillions of paper dollars....the price of Real Estate is just relative to the value of all that paper.

When interest rates are near zero....that is the exact opposite of the housing crisis...when balloon payments caused by rising interest rates increased faster than the value of a property making a person with no equity tied to the home decide to abandon a falling asset.

This OP's post is literally the gibberish of a complete know-nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78803971


Being called a know-nothing by an AC is a badge of honor for the GLP crowd.

Between 2001 and 2009 mortgage rates averaged a mean delta of no greater than 1%, peaking in 2006 at 6.41% and tumbled every year until bottoming out at 3.66% in 2012.

[link to www.freddiemac.com]

Yes, there were people walking away from homes due to ARMs, but this was a very small part of the problem. The issue was that the institutional lenders were scared shirtless of the ticking timebombs in the MBSs that were being bundled and sold at the time.

[link to www.insurancejournal.com (secure)]

When the Fed jumped in the game by buying the bad assets they signaled to the industry that mortgage backed securities were a guaranteed asset that would be bought up by the fed if anything ever looked like it was going to go south.

I sure liked it when ACs were banned! :)
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Don't be so touchy. The additional exposition was helpful and would not have arisen without the ac.

This complement wouldn't have either.
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MOON

buy now or u gonna be priced out forever
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Can anyone define "crash"?
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I bought a house in the fall of 2019...I felt I overpaid even then, but now it looks like an incredible deal!

Regular houses without nice finishes on small lots of being listed for $250,000 and there are bidding wars on them. Mine was that price, but on 7.5 acres and nice finishes, finished basement, etc. animal barns an additional storage and infrastructure.

I've also built a 30x56 polebarn. I bet I could see for $400,000+ but I couldn't get a replacement for cheaper.
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buy now or u gonna be priced out forever
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i did, thanks





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