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Anonymous Coward User ID: 340279 Australia 12/17/2007 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What exactly does it mean to ascend? Quoting: the_travelerit means you are no longer in the conflict of duality and you have the requisite love/compassion/non-judgement to be ready to join the greater community of lasting reality. The physical body is transformed by frequencies it was designed to accomodate, every cell now operating in unity within a chord that is not of this world. Simply... Without the need for the lesson of death or reason for dying.., to enter once again to ones true home. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 340279 Australia 12/17/2007 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What exactly does it mean to ascend? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 340279it means you are no longer in the conflict of duality and you have the requisite love/compassion/non-judgement to be ready to join the greater community of lasting reality. The physical body is transformed by frequencies it was designed to accomodate, every cell now operating in unity within a chord that is not of this world. Simply... Without the need for the lesson of death or reason for dying.., to enter once again to ones true home. one step at a time. |
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12/17/2007 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What exactly does it mean to ascend? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 340279it means you are no longer in the conflict of duality and you have the requisite love/compassion/non-judgement to be ready to join the greater community of lasting reality. The physical body is transformed by frequencies it was designed to accomodate, every cell now operating in unity within a chord that is not of this world. Simply... Without the need for the lesson of death or reason for dying.., to enter once again to ones true home. Cool, can't say that I've had anyone tell me about that before.. |
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Old Indigo Child User ID: 340902 United States 12/17/2007 03:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What most of the responders to this thread are saying is that they have had some kind of "experience". That experience is not necessarily "felt" nor can it be "quantified" for it necessarily involves that which "confounds the wise man", and circumvents the "strong man". It is desired by all people, even though most do not know it even exists. However, all DO have the innate ability to immediately "join" one who is in an ascendent state. To those who are aware, the ascendent state is not any further away than the desire, but that desire is not for self fullfillment. That is where most fail. It is NOT about self. It is NOT about other "selfs". If anything, the 5d is about "non-self". It is about nothing, invisible, unnameable, without attributes, undefinable, having no form. The astral realms are fraught with danger. It feeds the self. It will give you anything your heart desires. It is contained entirely within 4d. It is a "place" where you "can't get there from here". The 5d is inaccessible through the 4d. You are closer to it in 3d. The 4d "world" would rob and kill you for it if possible. They are fully aware of this. "They" are fully chained and they know it. They also know that there is no hope to escape. They are "masters" which disguise themselves as "ascended master". It is an oxymoron. They are neither masters of anything but their own chained world, nor are they ascended or ascending in any form or shape. Much of what has been repeated here on this thread is part of their lies. Rather than feeding self through useless and dangerous "knowledge of good and evil", we need to be continually denying self. It is not an analogy that the path is straight and narrow. It is literal. All vestiges of self must be "crucified". This does not mean to deprived oneself of loves, joys, and happinesses. This does not mean to "flagellate" onesself to bring punishment upon ourselves. This does not mean to prostrate ourselves to show submission. All these things only inflate self. In the "ascended state", you can say or do nothing of your self. Like the "Holy Spirit" which does not speak of itself, we cannot point to self to express "gold tried in the fire". In fact, much of the ascended state experience is very similar to the very final "out of mind" experience that happens in the last moments of childbirth. While there is a "remembrance" of the moments, it is actually "lost" to memory. It is there, but lost in the rush of self. Nature takes over, and replaces it (mercifully) with floods of other emotions. What "normal" person would want to actually reproduce the the kind of pain that actually pushes a person into a momentary insanity that is just as inaccessible as 5d from 4d. This is a great mystery that we "choose" not to solve. It is intuitive. Much in the same way that many women "blind themselves" to the unsavory characteristics of the men that they love, we blind ourselves to the pain that says more about our salvation than all of the "pleasures" of the world. We are a pain-avoiding and pleasure seeking species. Strangely, the answers lie closer to avoiding pleasure and embracing pain. Such is the conundrum of ascension. To live you must die, if thine eye offend thee--pluck it out, etc. While much of what has been said here is sweetness and light, it is much closer to darkness and death. Narrow paths. Gotta love 'em. |
edgar celadus User ID: 284955 United States 12/17/2007 03:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " Why do you say that our language will not permit of clearer conceptions than you give?" " Because your education does not permit you to think outside of words; you are word-bound." " You astonish me by making such an arrogant assertion. Do you mean to assert that I can not think without using words?" " Yes. Every thought you indulge in is circumscribed. You presumably attempt to throw a thought-line forward, and yet you step backward and spin it in words that have been handed you from the past, and, struggle as you may, you can not liberate yourself from the dead incubus. Attempt to originate an idea, and see if you can escape your word-master?" " Go on; I am listening." " Men scientific think in language scientific. Men poetical think in language poetic. All educated men use words in thinking of their subjects, words that came to them from the past, and enslave their intellect. Thus it is that the novelist can not snake fiction less real than is fact; that scientists can not commence at the outside, and build a theory back to phenomena understood. In each case the foundation of a thought is a word that in the very beginning carries to the mind a meaning, a something from the past. Each thought ramification is an offshoot from words that express ideas and govern ideas, yes, create ideas, even dominating the mind. Men speak of ideas when they intend to refer to an image in the mind, but in reality they have no ideas outside of the word sentences they uncon-sciously reformulate. Define the term idea correctly, and it will be shown that an idea is a sentence, and if a sentence is made of words already created, there can be no new idea, for every word has a fixed meaning. Hence, when men think, they only rearrange words that carry with themselves networks of ideas, and thus play upon their several established meanings. How can men so circumscribed construct a new idea or teach a new science ?" " New words are being created." " Language is slowly progressing, but no new word adds itself to a language; it is linked to thought-chains that precede. In order to create a word, as a rule, roots are used that are as established in philology as are building materials in architecture. When a new sound is thrust into a language, its intent must be introduced by words already known, after which it conveys a meaning derived from the past, and becomes a part of mind sentences already constructed, as it does of spoken language. Language has thus been painfully and slowly evolved and is still being enlarged, but while new impressions may be felt by an educated person, the formulated feeling is inseparable, from well-known surviving words." " Some men are dumb." " Yes; and yet they frame mind-impressions into unspoken words of their own, otherwise they would be scarcely more than animals. Place an uneducated dumb person in a room with a complicated instrument, and although he may comprehend its uses, he can not do so unless he frames sense-impressions into, what is to him, a formulated mind-word sequence." " But he can think about it." " No; unless he has already constructed previous impressions into word-meanings of his own, he can not think about it at all. Words, whether spoken or unspoken, underlie all ideas. Try, if you believe I am mistaken, try to think of any subject outside of words?" I sat a moment, and mentally attempted the task, and shook my head. " Then," said the old man, " how can I use words with established meanings to convey to your senses an entirely new idea? If I use new sounds, strung together, they are not words to you, and convey no meaning; if I use words familiar, they reach backward as well as forward. Thus it is possible to instruct you, by a laborious course of reasoning, concerning a phenomenon that is connected with phenomena already understood by you, for your word-language can be thrust out from the parent stalk, and can thus follow the outreaching branches. However, in the case of, phenomena that exist on other planes, or are separated from any known material, or force, as is the true conception that envelops the word eternity, there being neither connecting materials, forces, nor words to unite the outside with the inside, the known with the unknown, how can I tell you more than I have done? You are word-bound." " Nevertheless, I still believe that I can think outside of words." " Well, perhaps after you attempt to do so, and fail again and again, you will appreciate that a truth is a truth, humiliating as it may be to acknowledge the fact." " A Digger Indian has scarcely a word-language," I asserted, loth to relinquish the argument. " You can go farther back if you desire, back to primitive man; man without language at all, and with ideas as circumscribed as those of the brutes, and still you have not strengthened your argument concerning civilized man." Then I continued: " The idea of eternity without time is not quite clear to me, although I catch an imperfect conception of the argument advanced. Do you mean to say that when a soul leaves the body, the earth life of the individual, dominated by the soul, is thrown off from it as is the snap of a whip-lash, and that into the point between life and death, the hereafter of that mortal may be concentrated?" " I simply give you the words of my guide," he replied, " but you have expressed the idea about as well as your word language will admit. Such a conception of eternity is more rational to one who, like myself, has lived through an instant that covered, so far as mind is concerned, a trillion years of time, than is ail attempt to grasp a conception of an eternity, without beginning or end, by basing an argument on conditions governing material substances, as these substances are known to man. You have the germ of the idea which may be simply a thought for you to ponder over; you can study the problem at your leisure. Do not, however, I warn you, attempt to comprehend the notion of eternity by throwing into it the conception of time as men accept that term, for the very word 'time', as men define it, demands that there be both a beginning and an end. With the sense of time in one's mind, there can be no conception of the term eternity." |
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Spectrum Blue
User ID: 333587 United States 12/17/2007 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what does it "feel" like? Quoting: the_travelerLike your soul is on fire. A pure constant golden fire. And ascending or transcending or awakening is joyful, however, it can also be sorrowful. Your psyche and spirit is ascending from one way of being that was comfortable into a complete unknown. It is easy to fall because of this. And in this post I do use "ascend" metaphorically. Dreams will begin as they fade into chaos. |
LaZe
User ID: 314849 Australia 12/17/2007 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what does it "feel" like? Quoting: Spectrum BlueLike your soul is on fire. A pure constant golden fire. And ascending or transcending or awakening is joyful, however, it can also be sorrowful. Your psyche and spirit is ascending from one way of being that was comfortable into a complete unknown. It is easy to fall because of this. And in this post I do use "ascend" metaphorically. honestly how do you know how it feels? have you ascended to the 4D yet.? It's time for us to fight back against these socialist scumbags |
Spectrum Blue
User ID: 333587 United States 12/17/2007 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what does it "feel" like? Quoting: LaZeLike your soul is on fire. A pure constant golden fire. And ascending or transcending or awakening is joyful, however, it can also be sorrowful. Your psyche and spirit is ascending from one way of being that was comfortable into a complete unknown. It is easy to fall because of this. And in this post I do use "ascend" metaphorically. honestly how do you know how it feels? have you ascended to the 4D yet.? I don't know about this 4D but there is a world that coincides with this one that takes in spirits. In this world and maybe for you a dimension, those that have learned what they were supposed to in this life and transcended teach souls who are still belligerent and angry. They are taught what they could never learn in this life: Love, mercy, compassion, and are even given a chance at wisdom. I had been there once, but I decided here was a place more suited for me. Atleast untill I get tired of everything. Then I'll turn my thoughts away from the temporal again and seek that which never changes. Godhood, Christ, awakening, transcendence, this other world, what you will. Dreams will begin as they fade into chaos. |
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Lucian Ilea
User ID: 341449 Romania 12/18/2007 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Ascension Process was wonderfully visualised in Stargate Atlantis when the remaining ancients (in the Time Buble) defeated their fears of an invisible monster (their own thoughts) and then started to vibrate in a Divine White Light ascending from the primitive 3D world of eternal suffering to a plane with great joy and true spiritual development; check out that episode and you got the answer. Quoting: Atte 333317Peace you'b better check the 9th season "defeat of Anubis by Oma" episode to see what 's really like Anubis,Daniel and Oma had a thing in common: they refused to reluinquish control of this 3-D continuum thus,they are unable to live in 5-D and control the 4-d it's all about control if you control women ,you become a woman In Arvena Neo et in Arcadia Ego I am an Atlantean living in Atlantis when it flew again :) ZAL Moxe |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 227259 United Kingdom 12/18/2007 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | to be on the "ascending" end means to be humbled down to the mud, one way or another, to be left behind must be awful, and i must struggle between feeling compassion for them and reacting to the anger and hate they direct at some. Quoting: KalahHow do you mean about "left behind" Kalah? I'm curious to know your understanding of this... :) i really don't even like to talk about it, yet i spose it can't be avoided, it's a harsh fact, and takes some tact. ok like, say serial killers, corporate people who go in and loot and pillage countries for profit and leave the natives to wither. there are people who i call the lethal ones, the takers. they have proven that they are too dangerous to be put in with the population, and this whole thing is coming down, because they are exterminating us. we're being rescued from the predators. and i don't like to say, but must, that same mindset goes all the way down to the everyday people in the form of racism, spite, hatefulness, for i was shown that these, if given the power, would become just as lethal. it's hard to be a warrior and have to know these hard lines and have to stand fast in defending it. it's been hard being on glp because this is a microcosm of the war, and i never wanted to be a warrior, i was drafted. i just want to grow flowers and take care of living things. and because thre have been some hateful hairsplitting word twisting people stalking me today, that the decision of who is on what side of the line sure wasn't mine, i was naive enough at one time to think everybody would end up going home. i had to be shown the hard way that some people would never change. i could never decide who stayed or went, cause i'd take em all and end up getting my back stabbed. Distinguish between your sense of DUTY and your sense of MORALITY. SOmetimes they are confused. Identifying with your DUTY should enable you to make good decisions ... whereas identifying with morality tends to invoke ego and judgement. |
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Razrin
(OP) User ID: 326347 Canada 12/18/2007 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ascension is mind-control bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336430Wake up you idiots, you're being duped. Let them dream. They are to cowardly to act. Thread: Puzzles within puzzles. Reality is felt through the heart. Human and intellectual retardation rule & govern all. |
Spectrum Blue
User ID: 333587 United States 12/18/2007 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ascension is mind-control bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336430Wake up you idiots, you're being duped. Let them dream. They are to cowardly to act. Too cowardly to act? Oh honestly, half of us that are dreaming of this bullshit are trying to make this temporal world a better place. Even though in my little schizo mind this world doesn't exist, I am working hard to start an underground revolution against this world's government and the rich elite that control the government. We're working to take back control of our government and make it for the people not simply a puppet of the rich. Now tell me, what are you doing for this world? Or are you simply bent on accusing people you don't know? Dreams will begin as they fade into chaos. |
Brand User ID: 340602 United States 12/18/2007 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what does it "feel" like? Quoting: Spectrum BlueLike your soul is on fire. A pure constant golden fire. And ascending or transcending or awakening is joyful, however, it can also be sorrowful. Your psyche and spirit is ascending from one way of being that was comfortable into a complete unknown. It is easy to fall because of this. And in this post I do use "ascend" metaphorically. Just like the controlled spontaneous human combustion that left a radiation burn on the Shroud of Turin... Physical body transformed into light. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 341849 United Kingdom 12/18/2007 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What exactly does it mean to ascend? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 340279it means you are no longer in the conflict of duality and you have the requisite love/compassion/non-judgement to be ready to join the greater community of lasting reality. The physical body is transformed by frequencies it was designed to accomodate, every cell now operating in unity within a chord that is not of this world. Simply... Without the need for the lesson of death or reason for dying.., to enter once again to ones true home. thats actually a very apt description for something that is indeed indescribable well done and thank you |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 336430 Brazil 12/18/2007 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now tell me, what are you doing for this world? Or are you simply bent on accusing people you don't know? Quoting: Spectrum BlueI've done so much that I am "monitored". Now the question here is: are you for real, or just a paid shill? I bet you are never going to be honest about it, goof. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 341491 United States 12/18/2007 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what does it "feel" like? Quoting: Brand 340602Like your soul is on fire. A pure constant golden fire. And ascending or transcending or awakening is joyful, however, it can also be sorrowful. Your psyche and spirit is ascending from one way of being that was comfortable into a complete unknown. It is easy to fall because of this. And in this post I do use "ascend" metaphorically. Just like the controlled spontaneous human combustion that left a radiation burn on the Shroud of Turin... Physical body transformed into light. exactly. |
Spectrum Blue
User ID: 333587 United States 12/18/2007 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now tell me, what are you doing for this world? Or are you simply bent on accusing people you don't know? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336430I've done so much that I am "monitored". Now the question here is: are you for real, or just a paid shill? I bet you are never going to be honest about it, goof. I could ask the same question. But neither of us will believe eachother unless we know eachother in real life. I doubt that will happen. Dreams will begin as they fade into chaos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 892 United States 12/18/2007 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me, ascension is something we all do whether we know it or not. It is a natural thing to do, like breathing. If you are the most despicable person on the face of the earth, sooner or later, you will turn and move forward instead of backwards. It may take dying to realize this for some, but it is true. We are all destined to ascend. If you try and lead a good life, you are ascending. The effort you put into it is directly proportional to what you gain or the rate of ascension you will acheive. Either way, everyone is experiencing ascension on their own terms in relation to their own rate of gnosis. It is different for everyone. To put labels, symptoms, and characterisics on ascension might be correct for some, but it is definitely not the same path for all. We are where we should be at all times. To think otherwise will cause disappointment and guilt through false expectation. After all, we are only human, and you know "to error yada-yada". At any rate, for me, to ascend is to feel good about yourself and the world around you without fear, filled with the promise of everlasting life and an eternity of ascension toward the Father/Mother/Creator/All That Is/First Source and Center/God/Allah/LOVE |
Kat Mama
User ID: 340231 United States 12/18/2007 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One night, as I was half awake and half asleep, I saw in my mind's eye two balls of pure light and they were floating towards each other. When they joined it was the most incredible burst of "nothingness" - just a huge, all-encompassing light. That's all there was - as for the seeing, anyway. The feeling was absolute pure bliss. I got to the point where I felt I couldn't physically take it anymore and just at that point, I fell asleep. When I drowsily awoke(I've no idea how much later), my mind's eye saw the same enactment. Once again, the joining of light, the incredible All There Is - and the indescribable joy. Then I suddenly understood why we cannot access this feeling in our "normal" 3-D "reality". It would be too much. If we were to experience it for more than just a few seconds - we would physically die. Die from joy? I could go for that! I never have experienced anything like it since. CONDEMNATION without INVESTIGATION is the HIGHEST form of IGNORANCE |