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Rural Trump Voters Already Live in the Safe, Tolerant Utopia Leftists Claim to Want

 
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What do I need gas for?everything I need to survive is on the farm .unlike you city slickers, we will do just fine in the country.
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You don't have a single piece of equipment that runs on gasoline or diesel? No tractors, no tillers, no harvesters, none of that? You're gonna do all this by hand, and then you're gonna feed your family and survive on canned goods through the winter without anyone being aware as to the guy who's got a farm full of livestock and produce. Alright. Sure thing, Jan.
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Good luck eating that "wealth",I will be on my farm with years of food on the hoof constantly reproducing. hayseed
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I don't really worry about it because ultimately you'll need to trade your food for goods if that's all you produce. Not like you have a refinery available to you to make gasoline, unless you're planning on siphoning every one of your neighbor's vehicles while they sleep.
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Goods?

Youre not the brightest crayon in the box, are you?
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Lol if you think you're "self-sufficient."

Your fantasies of being self-sufficient and completely insulated from the effects of what happens in the cities is really just that - fantasies. How about that dollar bill you have in your pocket? How much do you think that'll be worth without the economic output of those cities sustaining that dollar's purchasing power?

You think you're some sort of Jim Bridger-type mountain man, when really you're more like the Donner party.
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We don't need "dollars" people have lived well farming for thousands of years without money,and actually it's a draft horse not an ox.
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FFS... why write that and have them move here with their liberal bs!

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I don't really worry about it because ultimately you'll need to trade your food for goods if that's all you produce. Not like you have a refinery available to you to make gasoline, unless you're planning on siphoning every one of your neighbor's vehicles while they sleep.
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Goods?

Youre not the brightest crayon in the box, are you?
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Lol if you think you're "self-sufficient."

Your fantasies of being self-sufficient and completely insulated from the effects of what happens in the cities is really just that - fantasies. How about that dollar bill you have in your pocket? How much do you think that'll be worth without the economic output of those cities sustaining that dollar's purchasing power?

You think you're some sort of Jim Bridger-type mountain man, when really you're more like the Donner party.
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We don't need "dollars" people have lived well farming for thousands of years without money,and actually it's a draft horse not an ox.
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Your totally "self-sufficient" is one match and a little bit of gasoline away from being burned to the ground dude. Oops, there goes your way of life. Hope you have a good insurance company, and better pray they're not based in one of those "cities" you're totally not dependent on!

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:biden riot rally: :dawn29A:
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The Trump picture doesn't have people with hypothermia from being left in the cold or suffering from heat stroke in a 90+ degree humid day in Florida.
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But it does show the dailies of the hordes of white supremacists burning down the country.

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What do I need gas for?everything I need to survive is on the farm .unlike you city slickers, we will do just fine in the country.
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You don't have a single piece of equipment that runs on gasoline or diesel? No tractors, no tillers, no harvesters, none of that? You're gonna do all this by hand, and then you're gonna feed your family and survive on canned goods through the winter without anyone being aware as to the guy who's got a farm full of livestock and produce. Alright. Sure thing, Jan.
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It's called canning, but it's actually glass jars,and I have bear traps set on the perimeter of my farm so if your feeling froggy come and try.dont say I did not warn you.of coarse we use gas but I have options unlike you ,who will slowly starve to death in your city in a shtf scenario.

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What do I need gas for?everything I need to survive is on the farm .unlike you city slickers, we will do just fine in the country.
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You don't have a single piece of equipment that runs on gasoline or diesel? No tractors, no tillers, no harvesters, none of that? You're gonna do all this by hand, and then you're gonna feed your family and survive on canned goods through the winter without anyone being aware as to the guy who's got a farm full of livestock and produce. Alright. Sure thing, Jan.
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It's called canning, but it's actually glass jars,and I have bear traps set on the perimeter of my farm so if your feeling foggy come and try.dont say I did not warn you.
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Lol if you think your farm is invulnerable to the outside world you're an idiot.
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Gunshots going off all the time in my sweet little town and out in the country where I used to live in Texas. Almost every night. But it wasn’t murder or f*ckery. Just peeps scaring away critters or killing possums etc. no one even looks out the window I don’t think, when we hear it. Ive been in my new little town now over 6 months and have only heard a siren twice.
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What do I need gas for?everything I need to survive is on the farm .unlike you city slickers, we will do just fine in the country.
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You don't have a single piece of equipment that runs on gasoline or diesel? No tractors, no tillers, no harvesters, none of that? You're gonna do all this by hand, and then you're gonna feed your family and survive on canned goods through the winter without anyone being aware as to the guy who's got a farm full of livestock and produce. Alright. Sure thing, Jan.
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It's called canning, but it's actually glass jars,and I have bear traps set on the perimeter of my farm so if your feeling foggy come and try.dont say I did not warn you.
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Lol if you think your farm is invulnerable to the outside world you're an idiot.
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Country folk have arsenals for that kinda thing.
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I already explained that Gary,IN or any other place would need a "wellspring" so apparently you can't comprehend very well. That does not change the fact that most cities are more alike while rural areas vary greatly.
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Gary had one, it came, it went, now it's a warzone. Bloomington isn't anything like Gary.

Anybody with half a brain knows that if there are good paying jobs then people will show up.

Right. And then it ceases to be rural, because development follows. This is paint by numbers civilization.

Also, what the hell does fracking have to do with rural America as it is very limited? That just disproves your line of thought about everything being the same.

I never said it was "all the same". My complaints were that what people were discussing wasn't really rural america, but suburban America, and that they don't actually fantasize about living in rural places, they clearly and vocally just fantasize about living in white cities and suburbs.

The larger the industry the more jobs and housing needed are no mystery. That doesn't mean that such things explode like fracking. Most simply do not.

Where on earth has there been a large industry that drew people to work there and the place managed to not be subject to substantial development during the time that industry was up and running? We all know here that parts of KY and WV rose with coal mining and subsequently completely dissolved when automation and alternate fuel sources were introduced. It's back to being rural with the added benefit of decades worth of toxic tailings piled high at abandoned mines.

The very simple fact is that rural areas vary greatly while cities are more alike.

Again, if you think every city is identical, you're not very bright.

I know that in my state that if you start adding the numbers it is clear that the crime rates in cites are higher than the countryside, that is per capita and includes violent crimes. The reason for this is that all vices are interrelated and so the social ills accumulate as they have a symbiotic relationship (i.e. Las Vegas - Sin City).


Some crime happens more frequently when there's more people, but that's also because more crimes get reported because there's more people to report them. There's YouTube channels of people walking around old farm houses: that's the content. None of that is legal. It's all trespassing. But it's not listed as a crime because no one reports it. Nobody cares.
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You don't have a single piece of equipment that runs on gasoline or diesel? No tractors, no tillers, no harvesters, none of that? You're gonna do all this by hand, and then you're gonna feed your family and survive on canned goods through the winter without anyone being aware as to the guy who's got a farm full of livestock and produce. Alright. Sure thing, Jan.
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It's called canning, but it's actually glass jars,and I have bear traps set on the perimeter of my farm so if your feeling foggy come and try.dont say I did not warn you.
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Lol if you think your farm is invulnerable to the outside world you're an idiot.
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Country folk have arsenals for that kinda thing.
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Lol look at Clint Eastwood here.

One match and some gasoline, and your farm is done for.

That's all it takes.

Keep pretending you can prevent something like that though. It amuses me.
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We don't need "dollars" people have lived well farming for thousands of years without money,and actually it's a draft horse not an ox.
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What do you think people did with what they farmed for "thousands of years"? Why do you think people metal detect specifically at the sites of old farm houses?
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Country folk have arsenals for that kinda thing.
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You're right, no one has ever stolen a trailer or goods from a rural farm house before. LOL
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We don't need "dollars" people have lived well farming for thousands of years without money,and actually it's a draft horse not an ox.
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What do you think people did with what they farmed for "thousands of years"? Why do you think people metal detect specifically at the sites of old farm houses?
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See we have this thing called barter some posters here are straight up retarded.we don't need money.

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Yeah.
I am 40 miles south of Boone. Yes, while I live 40 miles NW of Charlotte, going pretty much in other direction is rural.
But, I will state, having lived near Charlotte for the past 40 yrs,it has declined because many, and I mean many, individuals have moved south and brought their stupid ideas with them.
In fact Tucker Carlson mentioned last night how this is happening exponentially in the past yr here and other states.
They leave their states because of decline but brought their policies.
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What is the average home price?
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NC 230K. My area 190K
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Can I buy one quarter of your house?
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Sure but you have to live with my wife.
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See we have this thing called barter ever hear of it?
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Beyond the fact that farmers didnt just barter, bartering is just you using your farmed goods as trading material for other goods and services. You'll need stuff, and you will need to trade for it whether it's with cash or not.

You'll have to leave the farm eventually. And even if you did manage to sustinence farm wthout buying seed, fertilizer, any sort of equipment or goods, et al, you'd be trapped living the sort of lifestyle that you'd expect to see in Niger or Chad.
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You don't have a single piece of equipment that runs on gasoline or diesel? No tractors, no tillers, no harvesters, none of that? You're gonna do all this by hand, and then you're gonna feed your family and survive on canned goods through the winter without anyone being aware as to the guy who's got a farm full of livestock and produce. Alright. Sure thing, Jan.
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It's called canning, but it's actually glass jars,and I have bear traps set on the perimeter of my farm so if your feeling foggy come and try.dont say I did not warn you.
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Lol if you think your farm is invulnerable to the outside world you're an idiot.
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Country folk have arsenals for that kinda thing.
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Yep ,my hogs need fed,and they will shit teeth.
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See we have this thing called barter ever hear of it?
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Beyond the fact that farmers didnt just barter, bartering is just you using your farmed goods as trading material for other goods and services. You'll need stuff, and you will need to trade for it whether it's with cash or not.

You'll have to leave the farm eventually. And even if you did manage to sustinence farm wthout buying seed, fertilizer, any sort of equipment or goods, et al, you'd be trapped living the sort of lifestyle that you'd expect to see in Niger or Chad.
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I'll take that over a burned out city with people eating one another, every time.
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According to your criteria in order for someone to live in a rural area then they must live like Daniel Boone.
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If you live within a 10 minute drive of a professional sports team and multiple colleges/universities, you're not living in a rural area.

A smaller city and its locale is rural.
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I don't know of anyone who would believe that living in a suburb of a large city or within ten or even twenty miles of a sports team could be considered as rural.

As has been pointed out, you repeatedly over and over equate rural areas as being the same when in fact it is the cities which are more alike.

ANY rural area can be prosperous if it has an economic "wellspring". If the area does not then it will need one nearby in order to prosper economically.

You keep claiming that all the rural areas are the same when that is simply false.
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You have made many assumptions as to what defines a rural area and what makes it desirable. Rural does not mean everyone is living on a farm or there is no population center of some size nearby. And people who want to live a rural life or at least have a rural retreat are not necessarily looking for a "prosperous" community. Like most things in life, there are trade-offs. They are looking for a better place to raise their kids or a place to retire or just a place to get away from the crazies in the cities. Around here more and more people are looking to have a rural retreat as a plan B for their family. When the big cities here in Texas locked down hard because of COVID, things barely changed here in the smaller cities. That accelerated the pace of real estate and residential construction around here quite a bit. Many of the people buying up the acreage and lake homes around our area are from larger cities. Many of the ones buying acreage build cabins, barndominiums, or have RVs. Almost all of the residential new construction in our county is out on acreage or on the nearby lakes. And many of those are second homes.

It goes without saying that there are not many high-paying local jobs in a rural community. But more and more people are able to work from home now or they are willing to have a 1 hour plus commute to a big city for their job. Yes, there are people with drug problems in rural areas but the cities have them in much higher numbers and they are a much more dangerous element in the cities. Overall the crime rate per capita in rural areas is much lower than in the cities.

If you are young, single, and just starting out in the real world then rural communities do not have much to offer you. But for people in just about every other stage of life, they can a great alternative to the big cities. You seem to be really sold on big city life. But for many people, the cons have begun to outweigh the pros.
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I'll take that over a burned out city with people eating one another, every time.
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Well, I'm not exactly quivering in fear of that happening or the end of civilization coming around the bend, so if you want to live your life around fear, I guess that's your call.
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If I had to boil down the political wisdom I’ve learned over four decades of observing, studying, writing, and debating, it would be this…

Life in Rural America (which is where Republican Trump voters live and govern), is clean, safe and racially tolerant. Most places in America where life is dirty, polluted, dangerous, violent, and plagued with racial hate and race riots, are cities that are almost exclusively populated by and governed by Democrats.

Outside of these Democrat-run cities, America is peaceful, safe, clean, and racially tolerant.

What’s more, if you remove these Democrat-run cities from our national statistics, you will find an America that is overwhelmingly peaceful, safe, clean, and racially tolerant.

Nevertheless, Democrats and their fake-media allies still blame Republicans for all of their problems.

According to them, it is Republicans who are responsible for racism, pollution, and gun violence — even though, out here where we all live, our air, water, and streets are safe and clean… We all own guns, but where we live there is no gun violence crisis… We are all supposed to be racists and responsible for all the hate crimes, but out here where we all live, there is no hate crime crisis.

Now, there will be exceptions, but those exceptions only serve to prove the rule.

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I lovvvvvvvvvvvvvvve where i live POP around 500 people...

IN a 10 mile area ...

And VERY VERY VERY SAFE...In fact all the people from Any gangs Think WE ARE CRAZYYYYYYYYYYYYY...OH YA WE ARE STAY AWAY BLM ..lol...
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Demon-crats are not just nasty, they are evil nasty. It's deep down in their core.

You can't name on demon-crat controlled city that isn't in major trouble financially and racial troubles ... not one!

Worse yet is the majority of those who are fleeing them and moving into God's land. They are like rats fleeing from a sinking ship. They bring their wokeness and filth along with them and quickly ruin the good areas.

We need to build fence on the southern border and around each demon-crat city to keep them there and let them kill themselves off.
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According to your criteria in order for someone to live in a rural area then they must live like Daniel Boone.
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If you live within a 10 minute drive of a professional sports team and multiple colleges/universities, you're not living in a rural area.

A smaller city and its locale is rural.
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I don't know of anyone who would believe that living in a suburb of a large city or within ten or even twenty miles of a sports team could be considered as rural.

As has been pointed out, you repeatedly over and over equate rural areas as being the same when in fact it is the cities which are more alike.

ANY rural area can be prosperous if it has an economic "wellspring". If the area does not then it will need one nearby in order to prosper economically.

You keep claiming that all the rural areas are the same when that is simply false.
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You have made many assumptions as to what defines a rural area and what makes it desirable. Rural does not mean everyone is living on a farm or there is no population center of some size nearby. And people who want to live a rural life or at least have a rural retreat are not necessarily looking for a "prosperous" community. Like most things in life, there are trade-offs. They are looking for a better place to raise their kids or a place to retire or just a place to get away from the crazies in the cities. Around here more and more people are looking to have a rural retreat as a plan B for their family. When the big cities here in Texas locked down hard because of COVID, things barely changed here in the smaller cities. That accelerated the pace of real estate and residential construction around here quite a bit. Many of the people buying up the acreage and lake homes around our area are from larger cities. Many of the ones buying acreage build cabins, barndominiums, or have RVs. Almost all of the residential new construction in our county is out on acreage or on the nearby lakes. And many of those are second homes.

It goes without saying that there are not many high-paying local jobs in a rural community. But more and more people are able to work from home now or they are willing to have a 1 hour plus commute to a big city for their job. Yes, there are people with drug problems in rural areas but the cities have them in much higher numbers and they are a much more dangerous element in the cities. Overall the crime rate per capita in rural areas is much lower than in the cities.

If you are young, single, and just starting out in the real world then rural communities do not have much to offer you. But for people in just about every other stage of life, they can a great alternative to the big cities. You seem to be really sold on big city life. But for many people, the cons have begun to outweigh the pros.
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Rural has a definition. Yeah, lots of people want a rural retreat for their family: they're called cabins or cottages or lake houses. I have one. I probably wouldn't have it unless my wife and I worked in a city and made real money.

I'm not going to spend a lot of time side tracking us on Texas real estate, but I'm just old enough to remember when the market fell apart in the 80s too. It always falls apart around cities because that's where people want to live. Less than a month ago I was in Graham getting BBQ. I bet real estate in Graham hasn't seen a significant increase or decrease in value YOY in decades. Possibly ever. That's not even too far from the metroplex. Go another hour or two out towards Amarillo and what will you find?

If you're retiring, sure, moving to a rural area is fine. I need broadband to work and it has to work consistently. That rules out big swathes of America immediately. Then I come to the question of "Do I really want to be here forever?" in terms of relocating somewhere like that. And it's always a no.
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True Dat...


it's why they threatened to come to our neighborhoods, that wouldn't end well. Rural and even NON City (small town) dwellers are usually well armed.




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If I had to boil down the political wisdom I’ve learned over four decades of observing, studying, writing, and debating, it would be this…

Life in Rural America (which is where Republican Trump voters live and govern), is clean, safe and racially tolerant. Most places in America where life is dirty, polluted, dangerous, violent, and plagued with racial hate and race riots, are cities that are almost exclusively populated by and governed by Democrats.

Outside of these Democrat-run cities, America is peaceful, safe, clean, and racially tolerant.

What’s more, if you remove these Democrat-run cities from our national statistics, you will find an America that is overwhelmingly peaceful, safe, clean, and racially tolerant.

Nevertheless, Democrats and their fake-media allies still blame Republicans for all of their problems.

According to them, it is Republicans who are responsible for racism, pollution, and gun violence — even though, out here where we all live, our air, water, and streets are safe and clean… We all own guns, but where we live there is no gun violence crisis… We are all supposed to be racists and responsible for all the hate crimes, but out here where we all live, there is no hate crime crisis.

Now, there will be exceptions, but those exceptions only serve to prove the rule.

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Re: Rural Trump Voters Already Live in the Safe, Tolerant Utopia Leftists Claim to Want
Demon-crats are not just nasty, they are evil nasty. It's deep down in their core.

You can't name on demon-crat controlled city that isn't in major trouble financially and racial troubles ... not one!
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There's the line that the party of Lincoln would be today's Democrat Party, implying crooked liberalism of the past 50 years would be somehow so different from the crooked liberalism of over 80 - 100 years ago. But human nature hasn't changed much or at all through the generations.

Moreover, there major self-identifying liberal Democrat presidents - Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman - in office well after the death of Lincoln were flat-out racists, bigots. And they were outright racists-bigots when those words really meant something and hadn't yet been watered down as "progressives" of today have done.
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Hahaha. Libs are just jealous and bitter.
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No worries, they're working feverishly as we speak to fuck up the burbs... All in the name of racial equity..
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If I had to boil down the political wisdom I’ve learned over four decades of observing, studying, writing, and debating, it would be this…

Life in Rural America (which is where Republican Trump voters live and govern), is clean, safe and racially tolerant. Most places in America where life is dirty, polluted, dangerous, violent, and plagued with racial hate and race riots, are cities that are almost exclusively populated by and governed by Democrats.

Outside of these Democrat-run cities, America is peaceful, safe, clean, and racially tolerant.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


LOL, the only "rural" areas that are remotely decent to live in are ones which are within driving distance of cities where the population generally ends up working. I've driven through half the US counties. Much of rural America is a dump where the only grocery store is a Dollar General in a dilapidated downtown where much of the commercial real estate has either been abandoned or consists of nothing but antique shops and bars and it's pure guess work if one of the endless abandoned homes is a meth house or simply a farm let go fallow. US Census checks out on this too, since those places constantly see an outflow of people as there aren't any jobs and no future hope of them.
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BULLSHIT.
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If you live within a 10 minute drive of a professional sports team and multiple colleges/universities, you're not living in a rural area.

A smaller city and its locale is rural.
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I don't know of anyone who would believe that living in a suburb of a large city or within ten or even twenty miles of a sports team could be considered as rural.

As has been pointed out, you repeatedly over and over equate rural areas as being the same when in fact it is the cities which are more alike.

ANY rural area can be prosperous if it has an economic "wellspring". If the area does not then it will need one nearby in order to prosper economically.

You keep claiming that all the rural areas are the same when that is simply false.
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You have made many assumptions as to what defines a rural area and what makes it desirable. Rural does not mean everyone is living on a farm or there is no population center of some size nearby. And people who want to live a rural life or at least have a rural retreat are not necessarily looking for a "prosperous" community. Like most things in life, there are trade-offs. They are looking for a better place to raise their kids or a place to retire or just a place to get away from the crazies in the cities. Around here more and more people are looking to have a rural retreat as a plan B for their family. When the big cities here in Texas locked down hard because of COVID, things barely changed here in the smaller cities. That accelerated the pace of real estate and residential construction around here quite a bit. Many of the people buying up the acreage and lake homes around our area are from larger cities. Many of the ones buying acreage build cabins, barndominiums, or have RVs. Almost all of the residential new construction in our county is out on acreage or on the nearby lakes. And many of those are second homes.

It goes without saying that there are not many high-paying local jobs in a rural community. But more and more people are able to work from home now or they are willing to have a 1 hour plus commute to a big city for their job. Yes, there are people with drug problems in rural areas but the cities have them in much higher numbers and they are a much more dangerous element in the cities. Overall the crime rate per capita in rural areas is much lower than in the cities.

If you are young, single, and just starting out in the real world then rural communities do not have much to offer you. But for people in just about every other stage of life, they can a great alternative to the big cities. You seem to be really sold on big city life. But for many people, the cons have begun to outweigh the pros.
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Rural has a definition. Yeah, lots of people want a rural retreat for their family: they're called cabins or cottages or lake houses. I have one. I probably wouldn't have it unless my wife and I worked in a city and made real money.

I'm not going to spend a lot of time side tracking us on Texas real estate, but I'm just old enough to remember when the market fell apart in the 80s too. It always falls apart around cities because that's where people want to live. Less than a month ago I was in Graham getting BBQ. I bet real estate in Graham hasn't seen a significant increase or decrease in value YOY in decades. Possibly ever. That's not even too far from the metroplex. Go another hour or two out towards Amarillo and what will you find?

If you're retiring, sure, moving to a rural area is fine. I need broadband to work and it has to work consistently.
That rules out big swathes of America immediately. Then I come to the question of "Do I really want to be here forever?" in terms of relocating somewhere like that. And it's always a no.
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Really you are using desolate West Texas to make your point? Nobody is claiming at ALL rural areas are desirable just because they are rural.

And almost everyone needs reliable broadband to work today. The key is backup. A failover wireless router linked with DSL does the trick. Actually, get better speed (20 mbps) on the wireless than the DSL. Since I got that router a few years ago have not been down once.
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