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We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.

 
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We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
It's fucked.

Past broke.

Shit is not only not working but is in fact terrorizing citizens. And, demoralizing and weakening our country due to the constant strife and division caused by one incompetent and deadly episode after the other.

A Lieutenant in the U.S armed forces pulled over, pepper sprayed and threatened for no crime whatsoever. (Virginia)

18 month old puppy shot on a routine domestic disturbance call for "loud voices" in a house. WTF!? (Louisiana)

No investigation of a car stopped at the top of the Mississippi River bridge, with engine on, keys and phone in the car. Car towed, no attempt to find out if the driver was even alive. (Louisiana)

And yet again, in the middle of the George Floyd trial no less, mere miles away, yet another black dude gunned down by cops after a traffic accident. (Minnesota)

I mean COME ON!

Apparently law enforcement is too fucking stupid to even read the fucking room, to get a fucking clue. They are incapable of any self-reflection or self-correction.

We need a review of all law enforcement members, the training at all levels - local, state and federal - and we need to end qualified immunity.

I say all this a a white mom in the southern burbs.

Enough is enough.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
It's fucked.

Past broke.

Shit is not only not working but is in fact terrorizing citizens. And, demoralizing and weakening our country due to the constant strife and division caused by one incompetent and deadly episode after the other.

A Lieutenant in the U.S armed forces pulled over, pepper sprayed and threatened for no crime whatsoever. (Virginia)

18 month old puppy shot on a routine domestic disturbance call for "loud voices" in a house. WTF!? (Louisiana)

No investigation of a car stopped at the top of the Mississippi River bridge, with engine on, keys and phone in the car. Car towed, no attempt to find out if the driver was even alive. (Louisiana)

And yet again, in the middle of the George Floyd trial no less, mere miles away, yet another black dude gunned down by cops after a traffic accident. (Minnesota)

I mean COME ON!

Apparently law enforcement is too fucking stupid to even read the fucking room, to get a fucking clue. They are incapable of any self-reflection or self-correction.

We need a review of all law enforcement members, the training at all levels - local, state and federal - and we need to end qualified immunity.

I say all this a a white mom in the southern burbs.

Enough is enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880563


My guess is that the majority suffer from PTSD in some form, causing erratic behavior.
The day the soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
Absolutely not saying or suggesting we "defund the police". That's retarded. We are a country that values law and order, at least we used to.

But, it seems now, LEO is an over-militarized, over-protected, unchecked fourth estate that is destabilizing the fabric of our day to day lives in many communities and among several demographics.

It's simply beyond dysfunctional at this point. Zero confidence.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
Absolutely not saying or suggesting we "defund the police". That's retarded. We are a country that values law and order, at least we used to.

But, it seems now, LEO is an over-militarized, over-protected, unchecked fourth estate that is destabilizing the fabric of our day to day lives in many communities and among several demographics.

It's simply beyond dysfunctional at this point. Zero confidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880563


Record crime.
Thuggish behavior normalized.
Zero respect taught from non-existent parents.
God made illegal.
Sin made legal.

Yeah. It's all the cops fault.
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04/12/2021 08:34 AM
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
Defund the police?
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We need a review of all law enforcement members, the training at all levels - local, state and federal - and we need to end qualified immunity.

I say all this a a white mom in the southern burbs.

Enough is enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880563


A couple of weeks riding shotgun in a patrol car and you would be donating more guns to cops.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.

My guess is that the majority suffer from PTSD in some form, causing erratic behavior.
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Maybe so.

No cause should be ruled out, no effort spared to fix it.

But...maybe, if your hypothesis is correct, it's more as a result of the over-militaized mindset that LEO has.

I mean, if you go out on your shift every day, fully armed with gear tbat originated in a theater of war, you are no doubt going to be on edge and with a certain mindset, looking for conflict rather than helping people or bringing calm and stability.

You get out of it what you put into it.

When my kids go out and play with bubbles or a bat a a ball - they play peacefully.

When they go out with their NERF guns - someone always has a meltdown and a fight ensues.

It's not hard to extrapolate that out to what's happening with LEO.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
Defund the police?
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Read please. No.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
No we need to get rid of pussies who are offended

Don’t break the law

Be polite when questioned

Be a moral upright Christian citizen

No to difficult
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
We need a review of all law enforcement members, the training at all levels - local, state and federal - and we need to end qualified immunity.

I say all this a a white mom in the southern burbs.

Enough is enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880563


A couple of weeks riding shotgun in a patrol car and you would be donating more guns to cops.
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Smarter people than you or I, who have done exactly that, say there is vast need for reform. And also more need for police support - just not more guns, equipment, etc.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
No we need to get rid of pussies who are offended

Don’t break the law

Be polite when questioned

Be a moral upright Christian citizen

No to difficult
 Quoting: ICF


The lieutenant was. He did not break the law. He was respectful. He complied.

The officer was fired.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
It's fucked.

Past broke.

Shit is not only not working but is in fact terrorizing citizens. And, demoralizing and weakening our country due to the constant strife and division caused by one incompetent and deadly episode after the other.

A Lieutenant in the U.S armed forces pulled over, pepper sprayed and threatened for no crime whatsoever. (Virginia)

18 month old puppy shot on a routine domestic disturbance call for "loud voices" in a house. WTF!? (Louisiana)

No investigation of a car stopped at the top of the Mississippi River bridge, with engine on, keys and phone in the car. Car towed, no attempt to find out if the driver was even alive. (Louisiana)

And yet again, in the middle of the George Floyd trial no less, mere miles away, yet another black dude gunned down by cops after a traffic accident. (Minnesota)

I mean COME ON!

Apparently law enforcement is too fucking stupid to even read the fucking room, to get a fucking clue. They are incapable of any self-reflection or self-correction.

We need a review of all law enforcement members, the training at all levels - local, state and federal - and we need to end qualified immunity.

I say all this a a white mom in the southern burbs.

Enough is enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880563


You’re gotdem right it’s fucked. Besides, the KGB, what other nation’s police force has the reputation of low IQ American Law Enforcement? Sadistic klan.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
Absolutely not saying or suggesting we "defund the police". That's retarded. We are a country that values law and order, at least we used to.

But, it seems now, LEO is an over-militarized, over-protected, unchecked fourth estate that is destabilizing the fabric of our day to day lives in many communities and among several demographics.

It's simply beyond dysfunctional at this point. Zero confidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880563


Record crime.
Thuggish behavior normalized.
Zero respect taught from non-existent parents.
God made illegal.
Sin made legal.

Yeah. It's all the cops fault.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76578598


Are the cops arresting the pedos, drug/human traffickers? The only arrestable offenses should be those. CLEAN THE PRISONS OUT.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
It's fucked.

Past broke.

Shit is not only not working but is in fact terrorizing citizens. And, demoralizing and weakening our country due to the constant strife and division caused by one incompetent and deadly episode after the other.

A Lieutenant in the U.S armed forces pulled over, pepper sprayed and threatened for no crime whatsoever. (Virginia)

18 month old puppy shot on a routine domestic disturbance call for "loud voices" in a house. WTF!? (Louisiana)

No investigation of a car stopped at the top of the Mississippi River bridge, with engine on, keys and phone in the car. Car towed, no attempt to find out if the driver was even alive. (Louisiana)

And yet again, in the middle of the George Floyd trial no less, mere miles away, yet another black dude gunned down by cops after a traffic accident. (Minnesota)

I mean COME ON!

Apparently law enforcement is too fucking stupid to even read the fucking room, to get a fucking clue. They are incapable of any self-reflection or self-correction.

We need a review of all law enforcement members, the training at all levels - local, state and federal - and we need to end qualified immunity.

I say all this a a white mom in the southern burbs.

Enough is enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880563


True. We in the rest of the world are utterly amazed at ur cops. Our cops u can shout at them not much will happen. In Europe if you shout at a cop they will walk away with their tail between their legs. In USA ur dead. Ur living in a concentration camp around these monsters basically and you don't even know it. U don't know freedom until you've left the USA sorry to say.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
Absolutely not saying or suggesting we "defund the police". That's retarded. We are a country that values law and order, at least we used to.

But, it seems now, LEO is an over-militarized, over-protected, unchecked fourth estate that is destabilizing the fabric of our day to day lives in many communities and among several demographics.

It's simply beyond dysfunctional at this point. Zero confidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880563


Record crime.
Thuggish behavior normalized.
Zero respect taught from non-existent parents.
God made illegal.
Sin made legal.

Yeah. It's all the cops fault.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76578598


Are the cops arresting the pedos, drug/human traffickers? The only arrestable offenses should be those. CLEAN THE PRISONS OUT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29626298

I’ll answer my own question. No they aren’t because they are complicit. Accessories. Or perpetrators.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
Smarter people than you or I, who have done exactly that, say there is vast need for reform. And also more need for police support - just not more guns, equipment, etc.
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What happened when cops recently went really soft in these blue cities? No racial profiling aka stopping 4 black ghetto guys in a SUV driving around, looking all serious.

Homicides and all serious crimes started to rise and fast. No end in sight. These cities are going to turn into shantytowns, northern favelas soon.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
Yes op. Go be the change we need. What's your strategy?
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
No we need to get rid of pussies who are offended

Don’t break the law

Be polite when questioned

Be a moral upright Christian citizen

No to difficult
 Quoting: ICF


The lieutenant was. He did not break the law. He was respectful. He complied.

The officer was fired.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880563


He was given a lawful command to exit his vehicle and he refused to do so

I would have shot him

Pretty sad that even commissioned officers who are black think that their skin color gives them the right to disobey a law officer
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
Smarter people than you or I, who have done exactly that, say there is vast need for reform. And also more need for police support - just not more guns, equipment, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880563


What happened when cops recently went really soft in these blue cities? No racial profiling aka stopping 4 black ghetto guys in a SUV driving around, looking all serious.

Homicides and all serious crimes started to rise and fast. No end in sight. These cities are going to turn into shantytowns, northern favelas soon.
 Quoting: NoGoodTimmy


If police were smart, which they aren’t, they would seek the help of the kings of the communities. My favela would be a tightly run ship.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
I lived in Detroit.

I wasn't scared of the Ghetto areas, wasn't scared of Flint.

I was scared of the cops!
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
No we need to get rid of pussies who are offended

Don’t break the law

Be polite when questioned

Be a moral upright Christian citizen

No to difficult
 Quoting: ICF


The lieutenant was. He did not break the law. He was respectful. He complied.

The officer was fired.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880563


He was given a lawful command to exit his vehicle and he refused to do so

I would have shot him

Pretty sad that even commissioned officers who are black think that their skin color gives them the right to disobey a law officer
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What you don’t get is that we want your white ass off our land or DEAD.

We are NOT your subjects. Never have been.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
Homicides and all serious crimes started to rise and fast. No end in sight. These cities are going to turn into shantytowns, northern favelas soon.
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If police were smart, which they aren’t, they would seek the help of the kings of the communities. My favela would be a tightly run ship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29626298


Except the kings of those communities are criminal gang bosses. Imagine your lily white suburb being run by some cartel associated street gang with regular fire fights against competing gangs.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
Homicides and all serious crimes started to rise and fast. No end in sight. These cities are going to turn into shantytowns, northern favelas soon.
 Quoting: NoGoodTimmy


If police were smart, which they aren’t, they would seek the help of the kings of the communities. My favela would be a tightly run ship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29626298


Except the kings of those communities are criminal gang bosses. Imagine your lily white suburb being run by some cartel associated street gang with regular fire fights against competing gangs.
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Wrong kings. Support the right ones. Bloodthirsty.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
No we need to get rid of pussies who are offended

Don’t break the law

Be polite when questioned

Be a moral upright Christian citizen

No to difficult
 Quoting: ICF


The lieutenant was. He did not break the law. He was respectful. He complied.

The officer was fired.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880563


He was given a lawful command to exit his vehicle and he refused to do so

I would have shot him

Pretty sad that even commissioned officers who are black think that their skin color gives them the right to disobey a law officer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79330200


What you don’t get is that we want your white ass off our land or DEAD.

We are NOT your subjects. Never have been.
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LMAO
Africa? You can have it and I'm sure money can be gathered to get your ass there ASAP.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
It's fucked.

Past broke.

Shit is not only not working but is in fact terrorizing citizens. And, demoralizing and weakening our country due to the constant strife and division caused by one incompetent and deadly episode after the other.

A Lieutenant in the U.S armed forces pulled over, pepper sprayed and threatened for no crime whatsoever. (Virginia)

18 month old puppy shot on a routine domestic disturbance call for "loud voices" in a house. WTF!? (Louisiana)

No investigation of a car stopped at the top of the Mississippi River bridge, with engine on, keys and phone in the car. Car towed, no attempt to find out if the driver was even alive. (Louisiana)

And yet again, in the middle of the George Floyd trial no less, mere miles away, yet another black dude gunned down by cops after a traffic accident. (Minnesota)

I mean COME ON!

Apparently law enforcement is too fucking stupid to even read the fucking room, to get a fucking clue. They are incapable of any self-reflection or self-correction.

We need a review of all law enforcement members, the training at all levels - local, state and federal - and we need to end qualified immunity.

I say all this a a white mom in the southern burbs.

Enough is enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880563


LOL op....calm down, the cops only shot the white part of him;



Mom thinks they pulled him over for having air fresheners in the car....when actually he had an outstanding warrant.

and you complain about a member of the military being pulled over? You do realize that is how they caught Timothy McVeigh?
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
Homicides and all serious crimes started to rise and fast. No end in sight. These cities are going to turn into shantytowns, northern favelas soon.
 Quoting: NoGoodTimmy


If police were smart, which they aren’t, they would seek the help of the kings of the communities. My favela would be a tightly run ship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29626298


Except the kings of those communities are criminal gang bosses. Imagine your lily white suburb being run by some cartel associated street gang with regular fire fights against competing gangs.
 Quoting: NoGoodTimmy


Wrong kings. Support the right ones. Bloodthirsty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29626298


You ask around enough, you’ll catch up to us. We ain’t hard to find.
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Re: We need to scrap the American model of law enforcement.
I bet if you got rid of the WAR on DRUGS most of the policing problem would disappear.
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I bet if you got rid of the WAR on DRUGS most of the policing problem would disappear.
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They’re too busy selling the drugs, themselves. Afghanistan’s trickle down effect.
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I bet if you got rid of the WAR on DRUGS most of the policing problem would disappear.
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They’re too busy selling the drugs, themselves. Afghanistan’s trickle down effect.
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Get rid of the WoD, and get rid of the C I A !!

Problem solved. :)
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I bet if you got rid of the WAR on DRUGS most of the policing problem would disappear.
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They’re too busy selling the drugs, themselves. Afghanistan’s trickle down effect.
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Get rid of the WoD, and get rid of the C I A !!

Problem solved. :)
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CIA and big pharm are some powerful enemies. Until an example is made on live TV or the population revolts against policing, starts killing them back, things will be a powder keg waiting to go off.
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It's fucked.

Past broke.

Shit is not only not working but is in fact terrorizing citizens. And, demoralizing and weakening our country due to the constant strife and division caused by one incompetent and deadly episode after the other.

A Lieutenant in the U.S armed forces pulled over, pepper sprayed and threatened for no crime whatsoever. (Virginia)

18 month old puppy shot on a routine domestic disturbance call for "loud voices" in a house. WTF!? (Louisiana)

No investigation of a car stopped at the top of the Mississippi River bridge, with engine on, keys and phone in the car. Car towed, no attempt to find out if the driver was even alive. (Louisiana)

And yet again, in the middle of the George Floyd trial no less, mere miles away, yet another black dude gunned down by cops after a traffic accident. (Minnesota)

I mean COME ON!

Apparently law enforcement is too fucking stupid to even read the fucking room, to get a fucking clue. They are incapable of any self-reflection or self-correction.

We need a review of all law enforcement members, the training at all levels - local, state and federal - and we need to end qualified immunity.

I say all this a a white mom in the southern burbs.

Enough is enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75880563


I am sure the CCP will show you how to police the populace!





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