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It wouldn’t be that bad if 50% of the world population was reduced. 50% less traffic. 50% less crime. 50% less know-it-all asshats. Are we still at 7 or 8 Billion? I’m already thinking about my next promotion at work when all my smart coworkers who got the jab don’t show up for work.
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Because the Rothchild's own it.
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That's what many have been saying for a long time, it's not hating against any group of religious people there, but the bankers have set up shop and destroying the world with their NWO from that location, pretending to be something they aren't.

The small time religious person in that place is a victim, those were the types persecuted in WW2. The bankers are the criminals.
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Are you an Anti-Semite?
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Looks like somebody's over the target.
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There is a lot of confusion going on, on the Net, because in real life, everybody is wearing mask and waiting in long lines for free rapid tests for hours, like they are all possessed.

Kiss and everything will go away, while your lips are still red.



The situation resembles to a full scale attack from all sides and few to try to escape mentally mostly at the current timetable.



And this is a spider web trap, and we are being trapped by the most loved ones, your family, your friends, your scientist that you will trust with your life, from every detail and from ignorance and appearance of situations that look safe but are not.

May God spare us, for we are too small for it.
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Because the Rothchild's own it.
[link to thedailycoin.org (secure)]

That's what many have been saying for a long time, it's not hating against any group of religious people there, but the bankers have set up shop and destroying the world with their NWO from that location, pretending to be something they aren't.

The small time religious person in that place is a victim, those were the types persecuted in WW2. The bankers are the criminals.
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Are you an Anti-Semite?
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I think he is acknowledging a correlation, but distinguishing the disparity between the victimized semites (((I idescend from those who fled))), and the banksters that happen to be semitic, emphasizing that it’s the bankster aspect, not the religious affiliation that is trouble.

I’m not as sure as to what the “pretending” is alluding to; might be to religion, might be to capitalism, or something else.
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In third world countries where natural selection is still at work most of the population is hardy, thus the corona virus has to work harder to infect them, they didnt have vaccines to protect them, thus the African variant was already more deadly than average since it evolved in an enviroment of herd immunity, naturally those who got vaccinated from the original strain would stand little chance since the african variant already beat herd immunity which is way stronger than a false temporary immunity with a vaccine
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WTF are you talking about..What African variant?

Show us one example where those variants and viruses are isolated?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72299469


welcome to 2020 retard

[link to www.frontiersin.org (secure)]

Its been isolated, sequenced, grown, and photographed.

but im sure you will ignore this post
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80171289



Actually no, it hasn't. Not covid!

Influenza A and B, yeah many variants. That is all that those swabs have shown in laboratory studies AND in university studies. No actual genome for covid exists and its FICTATIOUS.

Thread: “I’m a Clinical Lab Scientist PHD, COVID-19 Is Fake, Wake Up America!” ALL 1500 Positive PCR tests "WE'RE NEGATIVE"
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Indeed - and how. Those vaccinated with the Pfizer mRNA vax were 8x (eight!) more susceptible to the South African variant than an unvaccinated person.

This was 100% predicted by the way by Geert Vanden Bossche. He explains why in this video (start at minute 6).

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

What happens? Simply put, the mRNA vaccines force the creation of antibodies against the classic COVID strain. The antibodies produced by the mRNA vaccines can’t affect the variants but the problem is that they still bind to the virus. Antibodies that can still bind but not neutralize a virus still have affinity for the virus that is higher than your natural antibodies.

That suppresses the natural antibodies and thus makes the vaccinated person more vulnerable. Note: not to all variants of course but the nasty ones, like S.Africa and Brazil.

So this study is consistent with that but if he’s right this is going to be more and more obvious as the vaccination rate increases (with Pfizer and Moderna especially).

Vaccinated people are now immune suppressed and have a lifelong immune disorder against all coronaviruses except for the original.
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Geert is a fucking moron. If an antibody binds to an antigen (the virus), even if it cannot "neutralize it", the antigen is now tagged for removal through a process called phagocytosis. Ever heard of viral shedding? It happens with some live virus vaccines. That is phagocytosis at work.

But that's what you get listening to a fucking veterinarian who worked for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
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It wouldn’t be that bad if 50% of the world population was reduced. 50% less traffic. 50% less crime. 50% less know-it-all asshats. Are we still at 7 or 8 Billion? I’m already thinking about my next promotion at work when all my smart coworkers who got the jab don’t show up for work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78545648


This level of morality is childish.
Yes, it would be bad for so many to die.
No, your life improving at their expense is not worthwhile.
Fantasizing an unearned promotion is holding you back from earning a promotion.
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In third world countries where natural selection is still at work most of the population is hardy, thus the corona virus has to work harder to infect them, they didnt have vaccines to protect them, thus the African variant was already more deadly than average since it evolved in an enviroment of herd immunity, naturally those who got vaccinated from the original strain would stand little chance since the african variant already beat herd immunity which is way stronger than a false temporary immunity with a vaccine
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76487052


WTF are you talking about..What African variant?

Show us one example where those variants and viruses are isolated?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72299469


welcome to 2020 retard

[link to www.frontiersin.org (secure)]

Its been isolated, sequenced, grown, and photographed.

but im sure you will ignore this post
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80171289



Actually no, it hasn't. Not covid!

Influenza A and B, yeah many variants. That is all that those swabs have shown in laboratory studies AND in university studies. No actual genome for covid exists and its FICTATIOUS.

Thread: “I’m a Clinical Lab Scientist PHD, COVID-19 Is Fake, Wake Up America!” ALL 1500 Positive PCR tests "WE'RE NEGATIVE"
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Looks like some Nazi mod is deleting comments proving the idiots like yourself wrong.

Yes, thousands of variants have been isolated and the Genome mapped.

Here is ONE example, all I need to prove you wrong.

[link to mra.asm.org (secure)]
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In third world countries where natural selection is still at work most of the population is hardy, thus the corona virus has to work harder to infect them, they didnt have vaccines to protect them, thus the African variant was already more deadly than average since it evolved in an enviroment of herd immunity, naturally those who got vaccinated from the original strain would stand little chance since the african variant already beat herd immunity which is way stronger than a false temporary immunity with a vaccine
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76487052


WTF are you talking about..What African variant?

Show us one example where those variants and viruses are isolated?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72299469


welcome to 2020 retard

[link to www.frontiersin.org (secure)]

Its been isolated, sequenced, grown, and photographed.

but im sure you will ignore this post
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80171289



Actually no, it hasn't. Not covid!

Influenza A and B, yeah many variants. That is all that those swabs have shown in laboratory studies AND in university studies. No actual genome for covid exists and its FICTATIOUS.

Thread: “I’m a Clinical Lab Scientist PHD, COVID-19 Is Fake, Wake Up America!” ALL 1500 Positive PCR tests "WE'RE NEGATIVE"
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It’s real. The BS you linked to isn’t. It’s been on the internet since last year under other names. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

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Welcome to the new world of constant updates via experimental vaccines.

Don't worry the next version will be better...
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It wouldn’t be that bad if 50% of the world population was reduced. 50% less traffic. 50% less crime. 50% less know-it-all asshats. Are we still at 7 or 8 Billion? I’m already thinking about my next promotion at work when all my smart coworkers who got the jab don’t show up for work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78545648


This level of morality is childish.
Yes, it would be bad for so many to die.
No, your life improving at their expense is not worthwhile.
Fantasizing an unearned promotion is holding you back from earning a promotion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Optimistic Coward 80168626


However to tell the truth, your morality of defending those that got vaccinated is not logical, because it is like defending your enemy, all them that got vaccinated or intend to get vaccinated, are going to push everyone else to do the same, how about that action of morality towards the rest that still believe that their body is theirs and they have total choice upon it, when those vaccinated are going to force no choice...

Let them die, no one cares, be it sister, brother, parents, child, let them all die, because they are possessed and they are going to get nuclear towards all the rest that still want to stay un vaccinated.

Personally would care less if all of the vaccinated died, and quickly as well.
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WTF are you talking about..What African variant?

Show us one example where those variants and viruses are isolated?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72299469


welcome to 2020 retard

[link to www.frontiersin.org (secure)]

Its been isolated, sequenced, grown, and photographed.

but im sure you will ignore this post
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80171289



Actually no, it hasn't. Not covid!

Influenza A and B, yeah many variants. That is all that those swabs have shown in laboratory studies AND in university studies. No actual genome for covid exists and its FICTATIOUS.

Thread: “I’m a Clinical Lab Scientist PHD, COVID-19 Is Fake, Wake Up America!” ALL 1500 Positive PCR tests "WE'RE NEGATIVE"
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Looks like some Nazi mod is deleting comments proving the idiots like yourself wrong.

Yes, thousands of variants have been isolated and the Genome mapped.

Here is ONE example, all I need to prove you wrong.

[link to mra.asm.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80002103


His link is bs that’s been floating around the internet since last year under different names. He has no idea what he’s talking about. It’s so dangerous to have halfwits spewing this when we’re in the middle of a deadly pandemic.

[link to joerizoliopinions.onlinegroups.net (secure)]
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WTF are you talking about..What African variant?

Show us one example where those variants and viruses are isolated?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72299469


welcome to 2020 retard

[link to www.frontiersin.org (secure)]

Its been isolated, sequenced, grown, and photographed.

but im sure you will ignore this post
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80171289



Actually no, it hasn't. Not covid!

Influenza A and B, yeah many variants. That is all that those swabs have shown in laboratory studies AND in university studies. No actual genome for covid exists and its FICTATIOUS.

Thread: “I’m a Clinical Lab Scientist PHD, COVID-19 Is Fake, Wake Up America!” ALL 1500 Positive PCR tests "WE'RE NEGATIVE"
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


It’s real. The BS you linked to isn’t. It’s been on the internet since last year under other names. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

[link to joerizoliopinions.onlinegroups.net (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52722058


These people are too stupid to even Google
Dr. Derek Knauss. He doesn't exist. Not a trace of anyone by that name in virology. No lab was named.
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These articles are designed to be catnip to the gullible anti-vaxxer who will pass it around, giving the site more views.

Works everytime.
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Also so that when idiots start pushing it around, they get called out and proven wrong, thus making “all antivaxxers” look like idiots.

It’s easy to make a sane/intelligent group of people look stupid, just surround them with idiots claiming to part of the same group.
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welcome to 2020 retard

[link to www.frontiersin.org (secure)]

Its been isolated, sequenced, grown, and photographed.

but im sure you will ignore this post
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80171289



Actually no, it hasn't. Not covid!

Influenza A and B, yeah many variants. That is all that those swabs have shown in laboratory studies AND in university studies. No actual genome for covid exists and its FICTATIOUS.

Thread: “I’m a Clinical Lab Scientist PHD, COVID-19 Is Fake, Wake Up America!” ALL 1500 Positive PCR tests "WE'RE NEGATIVE"
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Looks like some Nazi mod is deleting comments proving the idiots like yourself wrong.

Yes, thousands of variants have been isolated and the Genome mapped.

Here is ONE example, all I need to prove you wrong.

[link to mra.asm.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80002103


His link is bs that’s been floating around the internet since last year under different names. He has no idea what he’s talking about. It’s so dangerous to have halfwits spewing this when we’re in the middle of a deadly pandemic.

[link to joerizoliopinions.onlinegroups.net (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52722058


That link above surely is crystal clear that it is propaganda, published from those that push vaccinations, it is very clear and childish and surely not a reason for not seeing clear what is going on, when it is crystal clear for months now, from the beginning actually.
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Actually no, it hasn't. Not covid!

Influenza A and B, yeah many variants. That is all that those swabs have shown in laboratory studies AND in university studies. No actual genome for covid exists and its FICTATIOUS.

Thread: “I’m a Clinical Lab Scientist PHD, COVID-19 Is Fake, Wake Up America!” ALL 1500 Positive PCR tests "WE'RE NEGATIVE"
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Looks like some Nazi mod is deleting comments proving the idiots like yourself wrong.

Yes, thousands of variants have been isolated and the Genome mapped.

Here is ONE example, all I need to prove you wrong.

[link to mra.asm.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80002103


His link is bs that’s been floating around the internet since last year under different names. He has no idea what he’s talking about. It’s so dangerous to have halfwits spewing this when we’re in the middle of a deadly pandemic.

[link to joerizoliopinions.onlinegroups.net (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52722058


That link above surely is crystal clear that it is propaganda, published from those that push vaccinations, it is very clear and childish and surely not a reason for not seeing clear what is going on, when it is crystal clear for months now, from the beginning actually.
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Oh it is propaganda.. but created by anti-vaxxers.
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Will write it simple, because analyzing it has no point and the details matters not.

There is no virus SARS-CoV-2, there is no disease covid of the year 2019.

Instantly that above makes the vaccines that exist for the virus or the disease, not the cure or relief.

The details matter not.
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Looks like some Nazi mod is deleting comments proving the idiots like yourself wrong.

Yes, thousands of variants have been isolated and the Genome mapped.

Here is ONE example, all I need to prove you wrong.

[link to mra.asm.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80002103


His link is bs that’s been floating around the internet since last year under different names. He has no idea what he’s talking about. It’s so dangerous to have halfwits spewing this when we’re in the middle of a deadly pandemic.

[link to joerizoliopinions.onlinegroups.net (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52722058


That link above surely is crystal clear that it is propaganda, published from those that push vaccinations, it is very clear and childish and surely not a reason for not seeing clear what is going on, when it is crystal clear for months now, from the beginning actually.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79830321


Oh it is propaganda.. but created by anti-vaxxers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80002103


Created anti - vaxxers that can be controlled later and turn side and push vaccinations to all as also net restrictions to all.

It is like when a child in a class does something bad and all the class pay by the teacher, so the class to put in order such situations.
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Will write it simple, because analyzing it has no point and the details matters not.

There is no virus SARS-CoV-2, there is no disease covid of the year 2019.

Instantly that above makes the vaccines that exist for the virus or the disease, not the cure or relief.

The details matter not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79830321


iamwith

Yeah, everyone in virology, the many thousands studying SARS-CoV-2 variants are all in on a conspiracy.
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Will write it simple, because analyzing it has no point and the details matters not.

There is no virus SARS-CoV-2, there is no disease covid of the year 2019.

Instantly that above makes the vaccines that exist for the virus or the disease, not the cure or relief.

The details matter not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79830321


iamwith

Yeah, everyone in virology, the many thousands studying SARS-CoV-2 variants are all in on a conspiracy.
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hahahahahahahaha, you know it is true, cause it looks so fake.
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Gladly to get inside a room with anyone severely infected, to let him or her cough on face , eat from his or her food, whatever you need to get it right, and you'll see that there is nothing.
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Why do you fucktards keep believing utter bullshit like this.
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In third world countries where natural selection is still at work most of the population is hardy, thus the corona virus has to work harder to infect them, they didnt have vaccines to protect them, thus the African variant was already more deadly than average since it evolved in an enviroment of herd immunity, naturally those who got vaccinated from the original strain would stand little chance since the african variant already beat herd immunity which is way stronger than a false temporary immunity with a vaccine
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76487052


WTF are you talking about..What African variant?

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welcome to 2020 retard

[link to www.frontiersin.org (secure)]

Its been isolated, sequenced, grown, and photographed.

but im sure you will ignore this post
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80171289



how much do you want to bet the gene sequences are only partial?


naturally you get to dig through the references like Karry Mullus to prove it. :p

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Geert is a fucking moron. If an antibody binds to an antigen (the virus), even if it cannot "neutralize it", the antigen is now tagged for removal through a process called phagocytosis. Ever heard of viral shedding? It happens with some live virus vaccines. That is phagocytosis at work.

But that's what you get listening to a fucking veterinarian who worked for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80002103


Kill the guy for starting out as a veterinarian but ignore his work in virology and vaccinations?

I’m not a virologist or epidemiologist but I do work with them so I get to pick their brain from time to time. Phagocytosis is exactly what he’s talking about, antibody opsonization. That’s precisely how these vaccines essentially eliminate the viruses, by stimulating a natural response. But my understanding is that when he says that the antibody binds to the antigen but doesn’t neutralize it, he means it’s bonded but not tagged.

We’re getting to my limits of understanding here but the binding process of the cell receptors to the macrophage isn’t the be all and end all. That’s one step among many that have to happen. It’s not a binary process where it binds and gets destroyed via phagocytosis or doesn’t bind. At least that’s not my understanding.

Any resident GLP virologists can jump in here.
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I used to read articles on Google scholar about the vaccine trials and mRNA from years back but it looks like they’ve been scrubbed.
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Geert is a fucking moron. If an antibody binds to an antigen (the virus), even if it cannot "neutralize it", the antigen is now tagged for removal through a process called phagocytosis. Ever heard of viral shedding? It happens with some live virus vaccines. That is phagocytosis at work.

But that's what you get listening to a fucking veterinarian who worked for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80002103


Kill the guy for starting out as a veterinarian but ignore his work in virology and vaccinations?

I’m not a virologist or epidemiologist but I do work with them so I get to pick their brain from time to time. Phagocytosis is exactly what he’s talking about, antibody opsonization. That’s precisely how these vaccines essentially eliminate the viruses, by stimulating a natural response. But my understanding is that when he says that the antibody binds to the antigen but doesn’t neutralize it, he means it’s bonded but not tagged.

We’re getting to my limits of understanding here but the binding process of the cell receptors to the macrophage isn’t the be all and end all. That’s one step among many that have to happen. It’s not a binary process where it binds and gets destroyed via phagocytosis or doesn’t bind. At least that’s not my understanding.

Any resident GLP virologists can jump in here.
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From the actions taken Globally and individually in every Country by the Health Departments and experts that no one knew them before, one can clearly reach to a verdict, that no resident evil is needed here or anyone in this case.

It is beyond human understanding, and that is why some can feel it but cannot explain it, and still they try to find the science behind the madness, there is no science in this one, it is extraterrestrial, the self destruct button of the brain it is.
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To end is as simple as when it started, though with more casualties now from all the reactions and measures taken till now.

1. Stop all testing, pcr stop, rapid stop, self-test stop.
2. Open everything, whilst broadcasting on media that sorry we were mistaken.
3. Inform hospitals that they will have to choose whom to save, as the cases will rise, because of the measures taken.
4. Pray that the point of no return has not been reached.
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The Brazil strain (P.!) is what you need to worry about, since it's already spreading in the United States. Like the South African strain, it definitely bypass vaccination, and also natural immunity to the primary strain of Covid that first emerged. The Vaccine is now worthless, because within 2 Months or less, it's almost a guarantee that the Brazil strain will be EVERYWHERE. Look to Brazil for reference, the majority of what's going on are REINFECTIONS, they all already had Covid. This isn't over, not by a long shot.
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The Brazil strain (P.!) is what you need to worry about, since it's already spreading in the United States. Like the South African strain, it definitely bypass vaccination, and also natural immunity to the primary strain of Covid that first emerged. The Vaccine is now worthless, because within 2 Months or less, it's almost a guarantee that the Brazil strain will be EVERYWHERE. Look to Brazil for reference, the majority of what's going on are REINFECTIONS, they all already had Covid. This isn't over, not by a long shot.
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Fear propaganda is not nice.

All Pandemics do their circle and end, no vaccine is needed for this one, it is man made. Media made to be precise.
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Re: Vaccinated are f****ed! Study out of Israel finds COVID variant affects vaccinated individuals more than unvaccinated
Netanyahu rushed to vaccinate all Israelis, even going as far as to blackball Israelis who wouldn't get it, and get everyone fighting with everyone over it.

The world is now dealing with a multitude of mutations that are guaranteed to circumvent vaccination.

So here's the question, when they finally do design a multi-strain vaccine, like the equivalent of a Hexavalent flu vaccine, will it even be safe to try to artificially get the body to produce antibodies for all of them?

There's now an 18 mutation strain that they found, ALSO IN BRAZIL, and it has somehow integrated the properties of P.1, the South African strain, and UK super covid.....

I tend to think there won't be a lot of good news to report any time soon once they start reporting on this highly significant and unexpected turn of events.

Really think about what this means, your vaccination status is completely worthless, and so is natural immunity from the main strain of Covid that first emerged.

I think the long hauler anticipates getting Covid multiple times in their lifetime now, it's inevitable. Those who chose to not get vaccinated have made the right choice, because it won't do anything anyway now with what's coming.





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