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So Who here is really in the know on the vaccine? I need SOLID EVIDENCE why we should not take any of the vaxes?

 
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What is the solid very hard evidence against this???? If you don't know please don't speak unless you have absolute solid evidence. I need this evidence for a very good reason. Someone in my household will not listen to me and they will not take anyone's word for it. There has to have been studies or something solid to prove there is good reason not to take the Vax. Please if you have anything solid please link me to it.
 Quoting: Phoenix Light


C'mon man.

Covid 19 mortality rate was initially claimed to be 5% back in January 20202.
-Trump shut down travel from China based upon this.

-By March, they realized that this was false. What did they do?

March 25th 2020, the CDC changed the definition of death from Covid in order to increase the number they claimed are dying
.

- if they had not done this.
60,000 heart attack victims would be removed.
40,000 chronic respiratory syndrome would be removed.
200,000 pneumonia victims would be removed.
...and there are numerous other causes of death that would have never been listed as Covid deaths.

So the FACT is that Covid 19 has a mortality rate no different from the FLU, if the standard method had been applied to it.

There is no evidence that Covid 19 is an epidemic to anyone who is not elderly and having pre-existing conditions.

The Covid vaccines have not been approved by the FDA and have not gone though normal drug testing
- The drugs have been released has an emergency measure.

Why would you take an experimental, untested vaccine to protect you from a disease that is no more dangerous than a winter flue season?
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Look at Hank Aaron, Marvin Hagler, DMX, MIdwin Charles the msnbc reporter, the congresswoman, ALL DEAD RIGHT AFTER THE COVID VAX.
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Anyone who actually believes that the entire world locked down in unison and destroyed their economies over an extremely survivable virus, so that your grandma can make it a few more years, should absolutely take the vaccine.

It is their duty to do so, and they should proceed to be vaccinated asap.


You must remember, its not for yourself, but to protect those at risk around you, and people are still dying out here. It is your duty to roll the dice here and take the experimental gene therapy, for the greater good.
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What is the solid very hard evidence against this???? If you don't know please don't speak unless you have absolute solid evidence. I need this evidence for a very good reason. Someone in my household will not listen to me and they will not take anyone's word for it. There has to have been studies or something solid to prove there is good reason not to take the Vax. Please if you have anything solid please link me to it.
 Quoting: Phoenix Light


C'mon man.

Covid 19 mortality rate was initially claimed to be 5% back in January 20202.
-Trump shut down travel from China based upon this.

-By March, they realized that this was false. What did they do?

March 25th 2020, the CDC changed the definition of death from Covid in order to increase the number they claimed are dying
.

- if they had not done this.
60,000 heart attack victims would be removed.
40,000 chronic respiratory syndrome would be removed.
200,000 pneumonia victims would be removed.
...and there are numerous other causes of death that would have never been listed as Covid deaths.

So the FACT is that Covid 19 has a mortality rate no different from the FLU, if the standard method had been applied to it.

There is no evidence that Covid 19 is an epidemic to anyone who is not elderly and having pre-existing conditions.

The Covid vaccines have not been approved by the FDA and have not gone though normal drug testing
- The drugs have been released has an emergency measure.

Why would you take an experimental, untested vaccine to protect you from a disease that is no more dangerous than a winter flue season?

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THE COVID-19 SHOT IS A KILLING MACHINE - DR. JUDY MIKOVITS
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DR. SIMONE GOLD - THE TRUTH ABOUT COVID-19 VACCINE
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Well researched with both logic and links.

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OK OP, I’ll bite. Here are three reasons.

1. Vaccine trials are typically 5+ years in length. Only one in the past 50 years was less than 5 years, that was the swine flu vaccine. It went 4-years but given all the problems, it should have gone longer.

So if you take the vaccine, none of which have undergone trials of more than 3 or 4 months, you should consider yourself to be participating in an early Phase I clinical trial.

Now let’s get into science with the next two, since you wanted evidence.

2. ADE - Antibody Dependent Enhancement

The first danger is something called ADE, or Antibody Dependent Enhancement. In animal trials (when trying to create a vaccine for SARS since 2000), they could successfully create a vaccine that generated antibodies. The problem is that when challenged (which is unethical to try in human trials), the vaccine triggered a cytokine storm and killed the animals.

Here is the scientific explanation:

ADE is a phenomenon whereby antibodies bind to the targeted virus and then the resulting antibody/virus complex enhances uptake of the virus by host macrophages and other immune cells.”

Here is the study with ferrets from 2012:

[link to journals.plos.org (secure)]

These SARS-CoV vaccines all induced antibody and protection against infection with SARS-CoV. However, challenge of mice given any of the vaccines led to occurrence of Th2-type immunopathology suggesting hypersensitivity to SARS-CoV components was induced. Caution in proceeding to application of a SARS-CoV vaccine in humans is indicated.

Here are the same results in cats:

[link to www.jstage.jst.go.jp (secure)]

Here is the same results in mice:

[link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

[link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

[link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

ALL animal trials resulted in disaster, the death of most or all of the animals. The fact that we skipped animal trials with these COVID vaccines is mind boggling.

A summary in Nature:

[link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Conclusion: ADE has been observed in SARS, MERS and other human respiratory virus infections including RSV and measles, which suggests a real risk of ADE for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and antibody-based interventions.“

A study with a word of caution:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

So why haven’t we seen this manifest in humans yet? We will. As soon as vaccijated people encounter other coronaviruses, most likely in the Fall after there has been mass vaccination and flu season starts back up.

3. Immune Escape

A few months ago, a virologist named Geert Vander Bossch made an urgent appeal to the world to stop the mass vaccination immediately.

Some background: NEVER in the history of humanity have we seen a pandemic spawn variants that are more viral or deadly. It simply doesn’t happen - for evolutionary reasons. The viruses want to survive so they don’t want to kill off their hosts.

Vander Bossch finally explains it. It’s immune pressure. By conducting mass prophylactic vaccination during a pandemic, we are putting immune pressure on the virus to mutate faster and into new populations.

I’d encourage you to look at the doctor’s LinkedIn page where you’ll find many of the papers that he is writing. He’s of course being attacked relentlessly now, but his science makes sense and no one has been able to counter it.

[link to www.linkedin.com (secure)]

Here is his urgent appeal to the WHO:

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

If you’d rather hear it directly from him instead of reading all his white papers, here are some good videos:

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

Interviewed:

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

And most importantly, here he explains why vaccinated individuals are more vulnerable to variants than non vaccinated.

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
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What is the solid very hard evidence against this???? If you don't know please don't speak unless you have absolute solid evidence. I need this evidence for a very good reason. Someone in my household will not listen to me and they will not take anyone's word for it. There has to have been studies or something solid to prove there is good reason not to take the Vax. Please if you have anything solid please link me to it.
 Quoting: Phoenix Light


This is still a new vaccine and hard evidence is going to be squashed very quickly.

My main argument is: Why would you put something experimental in your body, not knowing what it will do, to supposedly prevent something that only has a mortality rate of less than 1%?
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Re: So Who here is really in the know on the vaccine? I need SOLID EVIDENCE why we should not take any of the vaxes?
let's approach this from another angle

here's solid proof the whole thing was planned, so why would there be a safe vaccine?


this executive order was signed in September 2019, it makes influenza a threat to national security, which is fucking retarded on its face, it's just another excuse to lock us up and strip us of our rights and belongings

and it also created the National Vaccine Task Force with the military in charge, just coincidence a couple of months before the fake pandemic, gee whaddaya know!

it's on the trump archive site now but it used to be on the regular whitehouse.gov site, when biden took over it was moved

it's not even very long but it mentions the word "vaccine" 60 times

[link to trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov (secure)]

if this isn't proof the whole thing was planned, then I don't know what is

they're not even trying to hide it, ffs

somebody on here said "the vaccine isn't for covid, covid is for the vaccine"

'nuff said
Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads.

Thoughts create, mind them well.
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The only link you need, sorry if already posted

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