So Who here is really in the know on the vaccine? I need SOLID EVIDENCE why we should not take any of the vaxes?

Does it take 3 years for COVID-19 to kill? No. So STFU.

There are no HeLa cells in the vaccines. Stop being so stupid.

Yes it is a vaccine. Stop being so stupid.


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1. no ones knows long term effects of vaccine. It 99.8 percent of all people survive COVID with no vaccine, what is the point?
2.Vaccine induces COVID into people who do not have it or would not ever get it without their own damn immune system doing its evolutionary designed damn job.

Vaccine has 95 percent efficacy rate and does not cure or stop spread, apparently.

Vaccine = bullshit

Okay, so let's say it is a vaccine, I don't want it in my body.

You cool with that, if not, I don't give a fuck what medical procedures you choose.

this is simple.

transparency - just ask for a list of what ingredients are in it. It should be a verified list.

You won't get one.

Who in their right mind would allow someone to inject something into their body that they do not know what is actually in it?

There in lies the common sense fact.

There has been an explosion in the number of autoimmune disorders since the widespread vaccination programs were begun.

there are about 50 autoimmune diseases and many will kill you in the longer term.

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The problem with this corona virus is that it mutates way faster than the flu does. Meaning that it will spin off several important mutations a year. Furthermore, the immunity to a corona virus supposedly lasts less than a year. (they aren't sure).

So a solution relying on vaccination would require you to get an ever expanding number of annual vaccinations. And these will be delayed of course by the development time for each new vaccine. Meaning that you will never have protection from the latest mutation of the disease, and will suffer ever expanding risks of developing a deadly autoimmune disease.

Tampering with the immune system is playing with fire. You might get lucky a few times, but in the end you will get burned.

And beyond that, there have been a LOT of cases of people getting the shot and dying a few days later. Much of this is suppressed because the news is fully controlled now by the deep state (in case you haven't noticed).

Remember Tiffany the nurse? Dead. And kept quiet.

There was another nurse that was twitching like a bug that had been sprayed with insecticide.

And many other videos of a similar nature.

The body count from the vaccine may take years to be fully realized. For a disease that has such a high survival rate, vaccination is crazy. And there is Ivermectin, which has been shown highly effective at preventing disease symptoms and curing anyone who has been infected.

Leave your immune system alone. It has been protecting mankind since the human species began. To think that Dr. Fauci and his ilk are smarter than that which gave us our marvelous immune system is crazy.

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cancers take time also you are a fuvking liberal SHILL.

I know, it's already been said, plus I've had dengue twice, I've lived through antibody dependent enhancement myself but it wasn't fun getting very pale with a purple leg and having to call all my friends to ask them for blood

I was offering words of encouragement to someone whose loved one took it already

I'm certainly not going to rub someone's face in what may happen

I think time will prove to the world the vax was a mistake but some people will manage to get through it unscathed because the body is smart and can even fix mistakes

btw, the mRNA does not hijack your cells to produce antibodies, it hijacks the cells to produce the spike protein, and then the immune system will produce antibodies

I have been searching through VAERS reports, they can be broken down by age, as more and more younger people get the vax we should se the death reports increase

The only *substances* of these shots that stimulate the production of antibodies are the gmo viruses and Peg in the shot. Getting Astra? Then welcome to the production of antibodies against a monkey virus because it’s used as the deliver van for the g m o dna.

The lack of study on the covid vaccine.

With mRNA vaccine trials, every test animal dies. Been that way for over 20 years. No mRNA vaccine has worked, ever.

How about Moderna s front page, where they tell you that you're uploading a gene altering l
software program. (And thats not a vaccine)

better late than never

The manufacturers won’t release information on how long their synthetic dna and mrna will keep forcing human cells to produce the spike proteins. They also won’t release exactly which cells in the body can get hijacked.

Tal Zaks. Chief Medical Officer at Moderna.
“We are hacking the software of life”
“Think of mrna as the operating system”
“If you could introduce or change a line of code...”

Moderna’s own SEC filing for quarter ended 30 June 2020:
“We are a biotechnology company creating a new generation of transformative medicines based on messenger RNA (mRNA)”

“No mRNA drug has been approved in this new potential class of medicines,”

“mRNA drug development has substantial clinical development and regulatory risks due to the novel and unprecedented nature of this new class of medicines.”

“Prior to the Phase 3 trial for mRNA-1273 and that of one other company, there had never been a Phase 3 trial in which mRNA is the primary active ingredient, and there has never been and there may never be a commercialized product in which mRNA is the primary active ingredient.”

“Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA. Unlike certain gene therapies that irreversibly alter cell DNA and could act as a source of side effects, mRNA-based medicines are designed to not irreversibly change cell DNA; however, side effects observed in gene therapy could negatively impact the perception of mRNA medicines despite the differences in mechanism”

No other reason needed but this:
Thread: No COVID 19 “vaccine“ is FDA approved... NONE!

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You can look up the deaths from the vaccine there on the CDC site, they make it hard, but it is there

Moderna SEC filing for 30 June 2002.

”Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA.”

Typo - 2020

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Great discussion, thank you folks.

Just a few notes to add.

1. From my understanding the Chinese Govt is using the more traditional vaccines on their population, I find that interesting.

2. I use quercetin/zinc daily, and feel quite sure I am not passing anything along.I use quercetin because it is over the counter. HCQ (very similar to quercetin) is good for early cases and Intervectin is being used all over the world regardless of how far along any illness is.

3. The fact that there is a news blackout on anything negative about the vaccine makes me suspicious.

4. Fianlly, I have stopped talking to anyone about the vaccine. I only offer to talk about it if someone is thinking about taking the vaccine. If people know how you feel it might make things very difficult down the road.

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Hello Phoenix!

Just to follow up, I am offering a few links. In the Covid vax question, I think a lot of people already have their mind made up and are not looking for objectivity.

As in this thread:

Thread: COVID VACCINE Considerations - Fantastic Information, Print This Off!

And this site which is linked in that thread:

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I would like to point out in the above link that the author is not an MD but has a post baccalaureate degree in Naturopathy.

She sort of misquotes and links to this gentleman:

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He is an MD with a Ph.D. in Immunology. To summarize, he does believe healthy people should be vaccinated but he does feel there is a subset of people who should not be vaccinated. Those would be people with Cardiac or vascular issues, those with previous infections, and those with a hyperimmune system.

I am looking at the Novavax which has yet to be authorized and the J&J if I were to take the vaccine.

I would like to say this about your son, in the long run, he is doing this to protect you. Go easy on him and thank him. He thinks he is doing a good thing.

Personally, I think all should do their due diligence and keep an open mind.

May I also say, there has never been a vaccine to the common cold, a Coronavirus, because it is constantly mutating. Dr Noorchashm also expressed concerns about the wisdom of mass vaccination in a pandemic as it will only cause the the virus to mutate. Things to think about.

Someone in another thread asked if one got the vaccine would another vaccine be needed somewhere down the road. I would venture to say, that is almost a certainty. Moderna is already working on a sequel to mutant strands.

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100%

Exactly! Just look at the characters pimping the vaccine. Bill gates is a known eugenics fan for one....Two, the virus itself was a lab creation released early to torpedo trump and lay the ground to push the vaccine. Three..Every previous mRNA vaccine animal trial resulted in death and four the vaccine manufactures have legal immunity...Thats more then enough reason for me not to take it. If you want some interesting reading look up the SPARS 2022 scenario at look at the similarities to whats going on right now..By the time symptoms start showing in less then a year it will be too late for millions.

yeah, and as soon as it hijacks a cell, which could be any one the lipid nanoparticles encounter first, then that cell is “infected” and will be “marked” by the immune system

so our own cell is going to be marked for death

looks like auto immunity is the soup of the day

fully go over that it is an experimental trial and will be till 2023. ask them if they are getting paid. explain how usually they would pay experiment subjects.

A Rabbi gives eight solid reasons for why to avoid the vaccine, which is found by seekers of truth. First one: It's not a vaccine. It's a game DNA changer.

So many on here are completely ignorant...like YOU.

Did you even read the first post? It's pretty clear the OP isn't getting it and wants something solid to send to a family member,