So Who here is really in the know on the vaccine? I need SOLID EVIDENCE why we should not take any of the vaxes?

From What I gather, the point is they have been trying to alter in animals and now they are going for humans. Plus, they have been at it for a very long time. That is what I got out of this.

That is the multi-billion dollar question and my question as well. Look up Antisense. Sorry, I don't remember where I saw it, maybe at CDC, but I believe the virus also contains an antisense "to silence the genes".

Yeh, that's above my paygrade (in this case, education level) so to speak. I will try to read it again.

Interesting. Still looking into it all but found incentive for vaccine push to move forward.This stuff could stay in system for life time.

"The global antisense and RNAi therapeutics market reached a value of nearly $3,677.3 million in 2020, having increased at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 38.2% since 2017. The market is expected to grow from $3,677.3 million in 2020 to $5,660.6 million in 2025 at a rate of 9.0%. The growth is mainly due to the growing demand for antisense and RNAi therapeutics due to COVID-19 which is expected to drive the demand for antisense and RNAi therapeutics. The market is expected to grow to $8,261.2 million in in 2030 at a CAGR of 7.9%. "
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You know what. I want to live and I want to live well. However, the way things are going I really don't know how much a good life we have ahead with all these killers coming after us. Seems they all want us dead, so they can have it for themselves.

Dayyum!

Is that trillions?

Well, if you can't lick um, join um.

7 of 10 major players in Antisense, RNAi therapies:

Biogen
Ionis Pharmaceuticals
Alnylam Pharmaceuticals
Arrowhead
Moderna
Sanofi
Dicerna

Just depends on the age and physical health of your family member. If they are low risk then the burden of proof should be on whether the vaccine is safe, which is impossible to to now at this point because we are the test group and the control group. Why should I get an untested vaccine to prevent me from getting an illness which I have a 99.7% chance of surviving?

People are getting too wrapped up in the argument of whether or not the vaccine is safe or dangerous. It simply does not matter at this point because WE DON'T KNOW. Until then, I'm not getting it

It really IS THIS simple. You cannot create a "vaccine" (which this really isn't) in less than a year and we have - what - 5 companies saying they did simultaneously? How the FUCK is that possible? It's not. It takes 5 - 10 years to come up with a vaccine for a new condition - 7 years on average. What they have told is not PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE.

They are taking research they have already done on other conditions and attempted to modify it for COVID WITHOUT TESTING. There has been NO testing on this & Pfizer states ON ITS OWN WEBSITE that this has not be approved by the FDA except on an emergency basis (meaning it has not gone through trials or the usual approval process).

And why anyone would trust companies like Pfizer that had to pay out, I believe, over a billion in fines for previous marketing fallacies, and J&J which had asbestos in baby powder....is beyond me. I don't know why ANYONE would trust either any of the Big Pharma companies or the Govt. Or the medical establishment especially considering Dr. Fauci's long history of failure and misfeasance especially in regards to HIV.

Besides, the virus, as they tell us, is over 99% survivable, mild in most people and many are asymptomatic and can only be detected with tests that are suspect themselves (PCR tests), meaning....they are not sick. Many of the deaths were deliberately induced by deliberately infecting TENS OF THOUSANDS of elderly people in nursing homes. Other deaths have been mislabeledd. Even the CDC admits this. And where....did the seasonal flu go?

How can you trust people who lie to you about masks, which every study for 100 years shows DO NOT WORK, and social distancing - because any virus can spread several times past 6 feet - maybe up to 30 or more. Why would anyone believe these people?

YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE STUPID AND GULLIBLE AND LACKING IN BASIC COMMON SENSE.

You can't fix stupid.

I am very sorry you are going through this. Your son has made a terrible mistake. Hopefully he won't get the second shot. There is literally no need for this, no good can possibly come out of it. NONE.

The best thing I can say is that the quality control on these "vaccines" appears to be poor. Some batches have 50% or so mRNA element, others the "correct" amount - who knows what you're actually getting. I suspect people who have little reaction are either getting an under-dose or maybe even saline solution - how do we know.

One big reason the Govt - and Trump unfortunately - was pushing this heinous bullshit is to get the economy back to normal as soon as possible. The "vaccine" was their magic bullet. Unfortunately that's been taken over by those who view people are their own private petri dishes and wish to experiment on us. Dr. Mengele was not alone nor unique.

I hope your son comes to his senses.

Ah, thank you for posting this - this is what I was thinking of with Pfizer. How many people died from opiods? Why on God's Green Earth would ANYONE BELIEVE PFIZER ABOUT ANYTHING? and the rest are just as bad.

This is sheer willful stupidity.

Can't wait to read the poster that argues your clear points here. People are truly living in crazytown to want and line up for this.

If this is what you believe then it really does not matter if you choose to get it or not.

This is so new, there’s no absolute. So many variables has already neen proven:
1) Your health condition,
2). Ingredients mixed up
3). Temperature control
4). Your allergies
5). No data of future effects

No absolute, just calculated risk.

I say, follow the smart money.
The insurance underwriters say no to policies with covid vaxxed customers.

Better look at the fine print of those policies.
Death due to experimental drug is not paid out.

Those guys know the numbers and odds of everything.

OK OP, I’ll bite. Here are three reasons.

1. Vaccine trials are typically 5+ years in length. Only one in the past 50 years was less than 5 years, that was the swine flu vaccine. It went 4-years but given all the problems, it should have gone longer.

So if you take the vaccine, none of which have undergone trials of more than 3 or 4 months, you should consider yourself to be participating in an early Phase I clinical trial.

Now let’s get into science with the next two, since you wanted evidence.

2. ADE - Antibody Dependent Enhancement

The first danger is something called ADE, or Antibody Dependent Enhancement. In animal trials (when trying to create a vaccine for SARS since 2000), they could successfully create a vaccine that generated antibodies. The problem is that when challenged (which is unethical to try in human trials), the vaccine triggered a cytokine storm and killed the animals.

Here is the scientific explanation:

“ADE is a phenomenon whereby antibodies bind to the targeted virus and then the resulting antibody/virus complex enhances uptake of the virus by host macrophages and other immune cells.”

Here is the study with ferrets from 2012:

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“These SARS-CoV vaccines all induced antibody and protection against infection with SARS-CoV. However, challenge of mice given any of the vaccines led to occurrence of Th2-type immunopathology suggesting hypersensitivity to SARS-CoV components was induced. Caution in proceeding to application of a SARS-CoV vaccine in humans is indicated.”

Here are the same results in cats:

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Here is the same results in mice:

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ALL animal trials resulted in disaster, the death of most or all of the animals. The fact that we skipped animal trials with these COVID vaccines is mind boggling.

A summary in Nature:

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“Conclusion: ADE has been observed in SARS, MERS and other human respiratory virus infections including RSV and measles, which suggests a real risk of ADE for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and antibody-based interventions.“

A study with a word of caution:

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So why haven’t we seen this manifest in humans yet? We will. As soon as vaccijated people encounter other coronaviruses, most likely in the Fall after there has been mass vaccination and flu season starts back up.

3. Immune Escape

A few months ago, a virologist named Geert Vander Bossch made an urgent appeal to the world to stop the mass vaccination immediately.

Some background: NEVER in the history of humanity have we seen a pandemic spawn variants that are more viral or deadly. It simply doesn’t happen - for evolutionary reasons. The viruses want to survive so they don’t want to kill off their hosts.

Vander Bossch finally explains it. It’s immune pressure. By conducting mass prophylactic vaccination during a pandemic, we are putting immune pressure on the virus to mutate faster and into new populations.

I’d encourage you to look at the doctor’s LinkedIn page where you’ll find many of the papers that he is writing. He’s of course being attacked relentlessly now, but his science makes sense and no one has been able to counter it.

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Here is his urgent appeal to the WHO:

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If you’d rather hear it directly from him instead of reading all his white papers, here are some good videos:

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Interviewed:

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And most importantly, here he explains why vaccinated individuals are more vulnerable to variants than non vaccinated.

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No. You are 100% wrong about this. In fact, while I am very much against anyone taking this vaccine, if anyone should take it then it is the elderly. It’s much more damaging to young people.

Let me explain the science of why.

There are two types of immunity - innate and adaptive. Younger people have strong immune systems but less “experience” so their innate is stronger than their adaptive.

As we age, our immune system weakens. But what saves us is the memory of all the diseases that we have encountered. That’s why older people continue to survive - because of their adaptive immunity.

What the mRNA does is rob you if your innate immunity. It hijacks your cells to produce specific antibodies when it encounters the S protein. That works fine when you encounter THIS coronavirus, the dominant one. But as soon as the variants start circulating, you’re screwed. This overrides your innate immune system because the antibodies produced have an affinity for the virus but don’t neutralize it.

The people who are going to suffer, specifically from the Moderna and Pfizer vaxes, are the young. That’s why Vanden Bossche is so distraught and is screaming from the rooftops - please don’t vaccinate our children and young adults.

It’s a train wreck.

mRNA changes your DNA?? [link to sciencewithdrdoug.com (secure)]

Another reason...

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The vaccine antibody is different than natural immunity.

Fact.

A new mutant strain will ADE off this antibody and Cytokine storm.

Only thing that will save you is called a cytosorb. Not fda approved though so no use in the USA.

All factually valid points.

The holy grail of bioweapons... Painted targets.

Stay away from the vaccinated, they are pariah.

Jose Baselga of Astra Zeneca R&D Oncology Chief Died March 21,2021 of Creuzfeld Jacob Diesease... A prion disease.

now you are just playing a typical argumentative pro shill vaxx hand. of course the israel study of the P1 amplification. huge accounts of adverse reactions 12x more then sny other vaccine. fact its a late stage clinical trial right now.

if someone wants to possibly harm you, say no. always. if they want to harm themselves, leave yhem.

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You are not alone. My parents snuck behind back and got it, told they had both shots a week after. They got the first one in january. My bro has done the same, without believing what I showed ahead of time.

Over 750 million people world wide have received at least one dose of vaccine.

If we assume COVID-19 kills 0.2% of infected, a 99.8% survival rate, if the vaccine killed at that rate, we'd see 1.5 million vaccine deaths already.

There have not been even a small fraction of 1.5 million deaths from vaccines. So vaccines are FAR safer than COVID-19.

Too many stupid people on this planet.

Boom!

And this is why I come to GLP. In all the BS posts, I eventually hit gold and diamonds. Keep spreading the truth.

You have no idea if any of those vaccinated would have died of COVID.

FFS

You are looking at the death rate TODAY. Lets circle back in 6 months and also 3 years on that. Also, this vacinne injures at 12x the rate of any other. Safe is a relative term. You know what HeLa cells are? Thats in you now.

Jesus Christ, how stupid are you? Really fucking stupid apparently. My post went clearly over your head.

At best 99.8% of people survive COVID-19 across all age groups.

Out of 750 million people receiving vaccination, of which the elderly are a major proportion of it, we would see 1.5 million deaths if the vaccine were as harmful as COVID-19. There hasn't been even the tiniest fraction of 1.5 million deaths that could possibly be attributed to the vaccines.

So the vaccine is far safer than COVID-19.

Stop being so stupid.

Here U go...

Thread: Pentagon scientists invent microchip which senses COVID-19 in the body, implant/mark of beast

Fast tracked...

Big Pharma and Doctors can pretty much kill you or injure you for life with impunity...

Actually not even a "vaccine"...

You actually trust Fauci and Bill Gates...

You actually trust the governments of this world system...

They don't work...

They are full of poison...

"Covid" is survivable...

I am sure there are MANY more reasons with awesome documentation by actual Doctors, Lawyers, Chemists, and Biologists, but those are my reasons besides NOT wanting to put poisons into my body along with human fetal tissue and who knows what else.

Choose wisely...

Shalom...